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Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 11:34pm On Jan 30, 2013

obadiah777: NO I DO NOT CELEBRATE XMAS AND EASTER SINCE I GOT IN THIS TRUTH. SCRIPTURE SAYS GET OUT OF THE WAYS OF THE GENTILES.

AS PER THE BIBLE ? IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD. BEFORE THERE WAS A BABYLONIAN EMPIRE THERE WAS THE WORD

WELL I DO NOT ENDORSE XTIANITY AND ISLAM AND NEITHER DO I PAY TITHES SO WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE THAT IT IS A FORM OF MIND CONTROL.
I AM SURE YOU DID NOT HEAR ME SAY THAT BEING BLACK IS A CURSE. IN FACT I SAID BEING BLACK IS ROYALTY WHICH IT IS. I THINK YOU HAVE ME CONFUSED WITH THE OP. I THINK YOU ARE GETTING YOUR WIRES MIXED UP HERE. CHECK ALL MY POSTS. I HAVE NEVER DENIGRATED BEING BLACK. YEAH WE ARE CATCHING HELL NOW BUT I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DESIGNATED TIME OF TURMOIL. YOU GOT ME MIXED UP WITH OP

Euhhhh!! Thank God for you! wink

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Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:59pm On Jan 30, 2013

AbuHanifa: Where is Lagosshia when you need him most. I will assist with some of his posts:

LagosShia cannot change History....He only ends up his arguments with insults. The OP is more responsible than LagosShia. tongue

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:56pm On Jan 30, 2013

F00028: the Quran is Almighty God’s final revelation to mankind. it containing guidance to the whole of mankind for every facet of his existence. revealed 1400 years ago, containing truths about this world that only its Creator would know. things that only now mankind is beginning to see for himself.

What a deep joke...the Kuran almighty God words? grin

So, Muhammed followers didn't see things for themselves? let me enlighten you small. Do you know that historical data found show that Muslims corrupted the Quran? Even though it was not divine at the first place tongue

. For instance, if you look at the Hadith u will find that Uthman burned copies of the kuran in order to standardize what he believed was the official text, even though some of Muhammad’s closest followers were in disagreement with him. In the following narration, Ibn Abbas mentioned some verses that were left out in the readings of the Quran:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

'Umar said, Ubai was the best of us in the recitation (of the Qur'an) yet we leave some of what he recites.' Ubai says, 'I have taken it from the mouth of Allah's Apostle and will not leave for anything whatever.' But Allah said: None of Our revelations do we abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We substitute something better or similar (2.106)" (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 61, Number 527)

Narrated Ibn Abbas:

Umar said, "Our best Qur'an reciter is Ubai and our best judge is 'Ali; and in spite of this, we leave some of the statements of Ubai because Ubai says, 'I do not leave anything that I have heard from Allah's Apostle while Allah: "Whatever verse (Revelations) do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We bring a better one or similar to it." (2.106) (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number cool

These missing verses cannot be referring to abrogated parts of the Quran which were no longer essential since even the abrogated verses were included within the text.
You have failed, because you weren't able to tell me what the entire kuran consist of, instead ranting by saying it's the final word of God. a thing you can't prove.

This next source states that there isn’t a single Muslim that could say for certain that they have the entire kuran preserved since there wasn’t anyone that could definitely tell what the entire kuran consisted of:

It is reported from Ismail ibn Ibrahim from Ayyub from Naafi from Ibn Umar who said:[size=16pt] "Let none of you say ‘I have acquired the whole of the Qur'an'. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur'an has disappeared? Rather let him say 'I have acquired what has survived.’”[/size] (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p. 524).

Allah authentic visions, revelations are missing in action and you not having knowledge of this? undecided

Mind you, these are Islamic sources and the alleged reported words of those closest to Muhammad who boldly admitted that the Quran is not entirely intact since some of it’s contents are missing. British Scholar Sir Norman Anderson stated:

"So, although it is true that today the Kufan text of Hafs is accepted almost everywhere in the Muslim world, the claim commonly made by Muslims that they have ipsissima verba of what Muhammad actually said, without any variant readings, rests upon an ignorance of the facts of history." (Anderson, Islam in the Modern World [Leicester: Apollos, 1990], p. 47; bold emphasis ours) Do we have more to say on this matter huh

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:28pm On Jan 30, 2013

Understanding Jeremiah 8:8
Jeremiah, chapter 8 states:7 Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the LORD.
8 How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?

9 The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the LORD, what kind of wisdom do they have?

For all Bible study (as for studying any other book) it is important to look at the context of each passage we want to understand. The above verses are part of Jeremiah's "Temple Address" in Jeremiah 7:1-10:25.

1 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord: 2 "Stand at the gate of the Lord's house and there proclaim this message:

" 'Hear the word of the Lord, all you people of Judah who come through these gates to worship the Lord. 3 This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: Reform your ways and your actions, and I will let you live in this place. 4 Do not trust in deceptive words and say, "This is the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord!" 5 If you really change your ways and your actions and deal with each other justly, 6 if you do not oppress the alien, the fatherless or the widow and do not shed innocent blood in this place, and if you do not follow other gods to your own harm, 7 then I will let you live in this place, in the land I gave your forefathers for ever and ever. 8 But look, you are trusting in deceptive words that are worthless.

9 " 'Will you steal and murder, commit adultery and perjury,[a] burn incense to Baal and follow other gods you have not known, 10 and then come and stand before me in this house, which bears my Name, and say, "We are safe"—safe to do all these detestable things?

25 From the time your forefathers left Egypt until now, day after day, again and again I sent you my servants the prophets. 26 But they did not listen to me or pay attention. They were stiff-necked and did more evil than their forefathers.'
The first important clue is to note that God through the prophet Jeremiah states in verse 7: "my people do not KNOW the requirements of the LORD". He does NOT say that they do not HAVE them. Then in verse 8 he takes up the the false security of the people who claim that they have the law as if the mere possession of the law will benefit them in any way if they do not obey it and if they distort it with their false interpretations. Let us look at the next three verses from the passage in question, since Jeremiah himself explains what this "lying pen" is all about.

10 Therefore I will give their wives to other men and their fields to new owners. From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit. 11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. "Peace, peace," they say, when there is no peace.
12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

What exactly is it that these scribes are doing? If you read the larger context you will see clearly that the scribes, priests and prophets are telling the people that everything is okay, that the Law is being kept, and that there will be peace because "God is with us", His people. But they are lying. It doesn't say their lying pens are making the Torah into a lie by altering its text. It says they are writing things that are false as though they came from God's law and teaching them to the people

A scribe in that time wasn't so much a copyist as a teacher and expounder. These lying teachers are telling the people "peace, peace" although the true prophet tells them there is no peace and will be no peace. God has announced His judgment on Jerusalem for its idolatery and disobedience. The enemies are coming and God will NOT help. This verse has nothing to do with altering the books, it has to do with teaching false practices and giving false prophecies and saying these are based on the Lord's law. The law of God which clearly speaks of punishement for sin is disregarded and the people are told about the promises of God's goodness -- which are in the Law too, but each has its conditions.

What is the reason for this false security? Verse 10 identifies the the people (including the scribes, priests and "prophets" wink

as greedy for gain. But the people will only gladly pay them for good news or better the lies of "favorable horoscopes" and not for the true messages of judgment and calls to repentance coming from God's eternal word. So, because of greed they trade the truth of God's word for the gains that come from the lies of false promises.

In chapter 7:1-29 Jeremiah announces God's judgment against Jerusalem because of their sin and disobedience. The people in Jerusalem are kept in false security that nobody would be able to touch them because this is the place of God's Temple and surely God would miraculously rescue them as He has done previously (see e.g 36 Then the angel of the Lord went forth, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.)
Jeremiah delivers God's word against this false security in 7:4-15.

The "lying pen of the scribes" is guilty not of changing the text of the law, but of false application of it. They are giving the wrong interpreation out of personal greed and because they fear men more than God. In effect, Jeremiah says that they don't "have" the Law because they don't KEEP the Law. It is not the physical presence of the Law or of the Temple that will avert God's wrath, but only obedience to his word. They did not corrupt the physical text of it, but they "handled" it falsely as 8:8 says. If the text they were working with hadn't been the Law anymore, then they could not have been accused of mishandling it.

"Having" the Law is no advantage whatsoever if you don't obey it. The endresult is the same as if you don't even have it. This is the consistent message of the Bible in many, many places.

For example you might have a detailed look at a similar address of judgment against the scribes by Jesus in Matthew 23. Let me explicitely quote a few verses here. Jesus starts out his harsh words of condemnation (taking up nearly all of chapter 23) with:

Matthew 23: 2 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
3 So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

Jesus would never have told the people to listen to the teachers of the Law if the very law they were teaching had not been unchanged and as pure as it was given by God. No, textual corruption was not an issue at all. It is always the question of how we react and what we do with the law that we know.

And there is another passage in 2 Timothy 2, using very similar words as those in Jeremiah:
15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.

One can "handle" the word of God correctly or falsely, but there is no question that the false interpretations and preaching will affect the EXISTENCE of the word in its true form. False teaching will earn the displeasure of God, but there are others who also have the word and will speak up. Like Jeremiah in his time is sent to speak because the scribes teach lies and say that they are the true word of God. And like the true disciples in the early church against the heretics.

[size=16pt]Arguing from the passage in Jeremiah 8 that the Torah is corrupted in its text would be going against the testimony of Jesus, against the testimony of the whole of God's prophets, and is an argument from silence, since it does not say so at all. The context makes it fully clear that this speaks about false interpretation and application of the word of God.[/size]

But there is still one more piece of evidence from the book of Jeremiah. Indeed this same incident of his temple address is reported again in Jeremiah 26, where we read:

4 Say to them, 'This is what the LORD says: If you do not listen to me and follow my law, which I have set before you,
5 and if you do not listen to the words of my servants the prophets, whom I have sent to you again and again (though you have not listened)
6 then I will make this house like Shiloh and this city an object of cursing among all the nations of the earth.'

Obviously, God admonishes the people to obey his law which he has set before them. This would not be possible and indeed were a ridiculous command if the law were not with them so that they can indeed read and know and obey it. Both, the law of God [the Torah given through Moses], and the words brought by the many other prophets of God, like Isaiah some generations earlier and Jeremiah himself at this time.

This is confirmation from the book of Jeremiah itself, even from the very same incident of the temple address, that the evidence above has been read correctly. The earlier passage in Jeremiah 8 is in most Bibles set in verse form which shows that the Hebrew is written in poetry. The summary statement about the temple address in chapter 26 is written in prose. We all know that in poetry there is often a greater license employed of words which are not meant literal but which are used to achieve a dramatic effect. And for the effect on the life of the people these false teachings are the same as not having the law at all. That why it is so serious. But that doesn't mean it has actually disappeared "physically". Chapter 26 makes it clear that it is still available and if the people will heed Jeremiah's preaching they indeed CAN go back and read it and obey it.

Further evidence: In Nehemia, chapter 8 we find that Ezra reads the Law to the people of Israel for a whole week, day after day. For example in verses 8, 13-14, and 18 it states:

They read from the Book of the Law of God, making it clear and giving the meaning so that the people could understand what was being read...
... On the second day ... they gathered around Ezra the scribe to give attention to the words of the Law.
They found written in the Law, which the LORD had commanded through Moses, that ...
Day after day, from the first day to the last, Ezra read from the Book of the Law of God. ...

This is in about 430 B.C. about 180 years after Jeremiah's temple address which took place in 609 or 608 B.C., the first year of the reign of king Jehoiakim (see Jeremiah 26:1).
Furthermore, at about the same time the prophet Malachi lives and preaches. In Malachi 4:4 we also read that God admonishes his people:

malachi 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
[size=16pt]All this clearly testifies to the existence of the Law of God given through Moses at this time.[/size]

http://www.answering-islam.org/BibleCom/jer8-8.html

Muslims always find ways to validate thier religion. They just can't keep off the corrupt book, they have no understanding of the Scripture.

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 5:48pm On Jan 30, 2013

F00028: The answer to your question is in your next question.

dear plappville, are you trying to get to the truth or are you just trying to trip me?

“…the only evidence of what verses that Daniel read from the Book of Jeremiah are Jeremiah 25:11, 12 and 29:10 where God predicts that Israel would be taken into captivity to Babylon for 70 years.”

[b]of course HE can but the fact that HE didn’t should tell you something! [/b]the Torah was not to be eternal. it was for a specific people for a specific period of time. it expired with the coming of God’s final revelation, the Quran. it's because I am talking to you. if I was talking to an atheist I wouldn’t try to prove anything to him/her with the bible, would I? the fact of the matter is Jermiah 8:8 is clear that the pens of the scribes have corrupted the scriptures. by bring other verses of the bible to show the scriptures are not corrupt, all you are doing is bring up another contradiction in the bible.

if jermiah 8:8 is true, then the bible is corrupt. if jeremiah 8:8 is an interpolation and it’s in your bible, then the bible is still corrupt. you really can’t win with Jeremiah 8:8.

I can just laugh at you, Islamic scholars has been refuted severally, are you knew to this? God's law was dead and was not used until Muhammed came huh

isn't this sound foolish to you??
Let me help you out. Read this with open mind then you will never speak of Jeremiah 8:8 anymore.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Giving To Ur Parents "Sowing To The Flesh?" by plappville(f): 11:35pm On Jan 29, 2013

try69: @gprincess1
This church(don't wanna mention names) is one of the richest churches in Nigeria and the church I went to is the one controlled by the second in command pastor..I was really surprised at how it all went. Do we swallow everything our pastors tell us? I have heard in some part of europe where people challange their pastors doctrine and demand for clarification but it is not same here..pathetic

Europe or Nigeria, there is no difference. If you are so sure, You pick your bible and show it to them.....you will not be the one talking but the Scripture.
Many pastors will mind thier ways when they know they can't manipulate you like others. Its a prove that you know what is written in the scripture.
But this should be done prudently/peacefully. Do not swallow all sort of rubbish!

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Giving To Ur Parents "Sowing To The Flesh?" by plappville(f): 11:29pm On Jan 29, 2013

try69: I did not mention the church cos it will look like I'm taking a swipe at them..I am only bringing it here because I know this is a platform where people who really wanna discern will come to..atleast anyone that gets educated here and goes back to their church and hear such teaching, should be able to filter through.
Tip: This church is worth Millions of dollars already.

You can keep the name if you are not ok to mention it, that is not a problem. The good thing is that, you have made it known to the public.
Like someone said earlier, Study ur bible, many thieves are out there in the name of God. Have you ever wondered why we have so many churches today?

Jesus built A church, but today we have churches upon churches with different doctrines and practices.
Some na money dem they find. While others are truely for Christ. But how can you know the true ones? This is not easy today, but there are still very few ones.

Watch out their teaching/doctrine and compare it to what you study in the Bible, then you will know. All the best.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Giving To Ur Parents "Sowing To The Flesh?" by plappville(f): 11:18pm On Jan 29, 2013

Enigma: Na so Jesus talk oh! Na de very thing wey Jesus talk be that. In fact, Jesus said that when you give to and help such people, it is Jesus Him VERY self that you are giving to and helping.

Na "pastors" when want line dem own pockets and enrich themselves while fleecing the flock dey emphasise "give to pastor", "give to pastor", "give to pastor".

They will say that the apostle Paul encouraged giving to "pastor"; true in a sense but then of course the most fervent pleas that Paul made for giving ---- were once again, like Jesus, for the poor and underprivileged.

Christianity Etc › Re: Is Giving To Ur Parents "Sowing To The Flesh?" by plappville(f): 11:17pm On Jan 29, 2013

Pastor Kun: I still think you should expose the church by naming it. False doctrines should not be tolerated in the church and false teachers ought to be exposed and rebuked sharply so they don't mis lead others.

Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

Christianity Etc › Re: Come, Let Us Reason Together - A Call To "Sanctified" Christian Reasoning by plappville(f): 10:44pm On Jan 29, 2013

Nice one Goshen, May God help us all as we submit to His word.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 10:41pm On Jan 29, 2013

obadiah777: LOLZ. SCRIPTURE DO SAY WHITE GLADDENS THE HEART.

Carry go, what you need now is a white garment. And then after, you name your NL church as RED WINE WHITE GARMENT E-CHURCH grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 10:38pm On Jan 29, 2013

obadiah777: YOU DO ERR NOT KNOWING SCRIPTURES. SCRIPTURE SAYS ROMANS 8 VS 18 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God <<<< THE SPIRIT BEING THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE IS THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD BEARS WITNESS WITH MY SPIRIT THAT I AM A CHILD OF HIS. A SYMBIOSIS OF SORTS. A BOND. A RECOGNITION. A MELD. AS SUCH I DO NOT INTERPRET THESE WORDS WITH MY OWN UNDERSTANDING. OK SO I DID ONCE BUT EVEN I KNEW WHEN I DID IT THAT I WAS GOING OFF MY OWN VAIN OPINION. WHICH IS WHY I MEDITATED ON THE QUESTION AGAIN AND CHANGED MY ANSWER PROMPTLY. BUT I SEE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO HOLD ONTO THAT ONE ERROR

Let me hear words..you too like brag with this our HOLY SPIRIT self, like say na only you he dey minister to.
I go sorry for you, no worry, this matter don end, but mind you, if i catch you with such a grave mistake again, then renewer of this subject... cheesy

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 10:36pm On Jan 29, 2013

obadiah777: YOU ARE VERY CLOSE TO BEING INDUCTED INTO THE 2013 LIST OF PHARISEES SMDH

That's our honorable prophet...you have more to alter? grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 3:39pm On Jan 29, 2013

obadiah777: AND I REPEAT, I WAS SLIGHTLY TIPSY FROM WINE. I AM SURE I WAS TRYING TO QUOTE YOU AFTER READING YOUR CRAZY COMMENTS

YOU ARE NEVER SURE OF ANYTHING, SAY THAT TO THE AIR! anyway, i will stop to reply you on this.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 3:37pm On Jan 29, 2013

obadiah777: NO IT IS NOT. HE IS ONLY CORROBORATING WHAT I HAVE READ IN THE BIBLE. YOU MUST BE BLINDED IF YOU CANT SEE ALL THESE THINGS IN THE BIBLE. PLAPPVILLE IS LIKE A SPIRITUAL STEVIE WONDER. SHE KEEPS WONDERING TOO

Go and sleep, you brag too much as if you are the HOLY SPIRIT.. grin

, you won't know anything about my spiritual life, because i don't brag like you.
If i agree with you, i will no longer be blind.... undecided

What a pity. Keep your interpretations to yourself, I am very convince of mine.

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Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 3:05pm On Jan 29, 2013

F00028: when/ where have I ever made mention of any "original bible"?
Jeremiah says you scriptures are corrupt! ask him where it is.

You know that Jeremiah is of the OLD prophets. So which scripture did He says is corrupt?
Did Daniel, Christ read from the Book of Jeremiah and also believed in an uncorrupt Torah?. Or are you saying God couldn't reveal this to Daniel?
or again are you saying that Daniel did not understand Jeremiah 8:8 to mean that the text of the Law was corrupted??
Is God not capable of preserving the Torah? if man tempered with it, were there no ways to reveal it or correct it?
If you claim the scriptures are corrupt, why then do you still take words from this corrupt book huh

Plesae answer those few questions.

Luke 4:17 The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18 "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor." Luke 4:20 Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, On this day, this prophecy was fulfilled:

Luke 4:21 and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

and also, can you tell us what the entire Quran consisted of?

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:32pm On Jan 28, 2013

alexis: It appears even his Muslim Brothers (Shiites) must be using Weak Hadiths . He said the Torah and Psalms were REVEALED to Mohammed. NA WA OOOH!

I saw that....and laughed..... grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:30pm On Jan 28, 2013

alexis: The Gospel and the Bible has been criticized, called all sorts of things yet it STILL stands today. We don't defend it BUT we don't let others LIE about it either. Our defense is exposing lies about it. I thank God for his Grace and Mercy upon all of us. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to work on the heart of man but it's our duty to tell others about the good news.

True talk.

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:29pm On Jan 28, 2013

[quote author=dansmog++]thank you to all the faithful christ followers who really defended the gospel here.. From alexis to plappville to proo212..... I have decided not to continue posting any comment after i have given F00028 facts, points and reference but he wont accept it... Thank you all for this lovely backing of the word of God.[/quote]It's easy to ulter words, but sometimes difficult to explain them. This was the position of the OP . Scripture interprets scriptures is the best way to deal with bible matters. They accept it or not is not a problem. After all, it's the Holy Spirit that does the understanding.

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 6:22pm On Jan 28, 2013

goldylock: This thread made an intresting read. Thumbs up to madam papiville and Alexis. Hahahaha my guy u still dey?

Viewing this topic: F00028

I tell you' his intentions were defeated. He might have thought Christians will overlook His topic. He missed it. Thanks for following up. God bless!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Was Having Sëx With Mary Magdalene. - Mallam El-rufai - OPEN by plappville(f): 2:16pm On Jan 28, 2013

rafhell: [s]I saw this somewhere and I think more Nigerian need to read it.

Jesus Christ On Twitter Former FCT minister, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai has come under heavy attack on Twitter and other social media for his tweet today.

In his attempt to defend former Education minister, Mrs Oby Ezekwesili and deride the Goodluck Jonathan’s administration made reference to Jesus Christ Being Intimate with Mary Magdalene.

The ex minister who posted the tweet yesterday, January 27, 2013, tried to make a joke about Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene in a sarcasm aimed at Information minister, Labaran Maku, Dr Doyin Okupe and Dr Ruben Abati.

This is the Elrufai’s Tweet that is causing a firestorm and condemnation from the Christian community

“@zebbook: If Jesus criticizes Jonathan's govt, Maku/Abati/Okupe will say he slept with Mary Madgalene.”....LWKMD.. Nasir El-Rufai @elrufai "@Easyaffection: @elrufai Sir with all due respect. I get u point in dis joke. But why Jesus? It's not funny."....ask @zebbook....

One Dr Thomas Agande in a statement on Sunday titled “ El Rufai Defiles Jesus Christ on Twitter said He went overboard when, on his Twitter page, yesterday January 27, 2013, said our Lord Jesus Christ Were Intimate with Mary Magdalene.

We see this as a very insensitive, irresponsible, and a offensive thing to say about Christ, and an attack on the sensibilities of Christians globally. El-Rufai betrayed his lack of respect for our Lord Jesus Christ and obvious hatred for Christians.

How else can one explain his effrontery and buffoonery when he seemingly jokingly twitted that Christ Were Intimate with Mary Magdalene.[/s]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 2:11pm On Jan 28, 2013

Boomark: He uses it whenever he errs not knowing the scripture.

Thats NL red wine prophet obadiah77. I interpret the scripture, but am band to make mistakes... grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 2:07pm On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: IN THAT THREAD I INITIALLY GAVE MY OWN VAIN OPINION BUT THEN I SEARCHED SCRIPTURES. NO HUMAN IS ABOVE MAKING MISTAKES ONCE IN A WHILE. ONLY GOD IS PERFECT. I AINT BUT A MERE LOWLY MORTAL. I AINT BUT A SQUIRREL OUT IN THESE WOODS TRYNA GET A NUT

And if we had agreed on your vain opinions? undecided

do you know the implication of such? Some may have believed you were speaking from a divine source.. This is why I am careful with ur interpretation. Of course no one is perfect. But the word of God is. You have predicted the end of the world in 4 yrs time. I believe your interpretation are yours if they are not perfect. Then there are not from the scripture. If you re led by the Holy Spirit u won't make mistakes like Prophet Moham... grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 1:56pm On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: I SEE YALL LACKING IN THAT KNOWLEDGE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. YOU DO KNOW THAT IT IS NOT JUST ENOUGH TO READ AND REGURGITATE SCRIPTURES HUN ? SCRIPTURE SAYS

PROVERBS 4 VS 7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding

ISAIAH 33 VS 6 And wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times, and strength of salvation: the fear of the LORD is his treasure. SEE PLAPPVILLE YOU ERR NOT GETTING WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. YOU HAVE TO MEDITATE ON THESE WORDS. THATS WHY YOU ERR. YOU DONT MEDITATE SMH

Are You still on red wine?... grin

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 1:49pm On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE ENLIGHTENED ONLY BROWN PEOPLE TURN DARKER BLACK IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. WHITE OR CHINESE OR ARABS TURN PALER OR RED.SMDH

Two different thread. Same comment for different persons. Is this really red wine? huh

Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 1:46pm On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: OH YE SIMPLE ONES HOW LONG WILL YE LOVE SIMPLICITY PLAPPVILLE ? MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. OK LET THIS MAN ENLIGHTEN YOU. THE MAN HAS WRITTEN SEVERAL BOOKS INCLUDING A BIBLE WHICH HE TRANSLATED FROM THE ORIGINAL HEBREW TO ENGLISH. THE MAN HAS WRITTEN MORE BOOKS THAN I CARE TO READ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm9Ded9Ctx0

So the video is the source if ur interpretation? I will view anyway. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 1:29pm On Jan 28, 2013

Logicboy03: Wow.....even more people that support this nonsense. Ignorant of basic science and history and ready to believe that they are cursed with their own black skin.

Well, I know never to engage these people again.

@ Plappville- you are as dull as the brainwashed muslims you so fight against. nuff said

Should I also say you are dull because believe what science made you to believe?

Christianity Etc › Re: Man Was Not Created Black; Man Turned Black Due To Punishment And Suffering by plappville(f): 1:21pm On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: LOL UBE ACCEPT MY APOLOGIES I WAS TRYING TO QUOTE PLAPPVILLE I HAD TOO MANY GLASSES OF RED WINE.

You are here lying...Ubenecdic was the 5the to comment and you qouted him as the 8th comments. I did not appear until the 21th comment how then do you claim that comment was supposed to be for me?

Christianity Etc › Re: According To Jesus Christ Being A Muslim Makes All The Difference! by plappville(f): 1:07pm On Jan 28, 2013

F00028: the only thing you have proved is you dont really know your bible but...whatever.

You can say that over again if you like. The Isa in ur Quran is the one fabricated by Mohammed and Allah's three daughters.
Not the one of the Bible.. This has been proven here. You have been debunked severaly. But your pride and the hatred Muhammad has built in the hearts of Muslims is what you are displaying. Take there scripture that perfectly fits ur prophet and you His followers.

Isaiah 49:7 (NIV) This is what the LORD says– the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel– to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation, to the servant of rulers: “Kings will see you and rise up, princes will see and bow down, because of the LORD, who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you.”

Psalms 69:4 (NIV) Those who hate me without reason outnumber the hairs of my head; many are my enemies without cause, those who seek to destroy me. I am forced to restore what I did not steal.

John 15:24-25 (NIV) If I had not done among them what no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. But now they have seen these miracles, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25 But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

Do you understand that?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 9:32am On Jan 28, 2013

obadiah777: AND I THOUGHT YOU WERE ONE OF THE ENLIGHTENED ONLY BROWN PEOPLE TURN DARKER BLACK IN TIMES OF TROUBLE. WHITE OR CHINESE OR ARABS TURN PALER OR RED.SMDH

We get enlighten only with the scripture. Those scriptures are plain enough.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Black Man The Most Undesired Man In This Satan Controlled World ? by plappville(f): 9:29am On Jan 28, 2013*

obadiah777: THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GOTTA BE WORKING WITH YOU. YOU ALSO HAVE TO STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED. YOU CANT BE GOING TO THESE WH-ORE HOUSES CALLED CHURCHES. TRY TO KEEP THE COMMANDS. THEN YOU WILL SEE HOW BEHIND EVERY LITERAL SCRIPTURE THE MEANING AND MESSAGE STARTS UNFOLDING.

FOR EXAMPLE - ADAM AND EVE GoETTING KICKED OUT OF HEAVEN MEANS THE WORLD WAS HANDED TO THE GENTILES ( HEAVEN IS RULERSHIP )

ADAM AND EVE DISCOVERING THEY ARE NA-KED MEANS THEY HAD NO PROTECTION FROM THE GENTILES

ETC ETC. THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD GOTTA OPEN YOUR EYES. HOWEVER FOR THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD TO OPEN YOUR EYES YOU HAVE TO BE PART OF THE ELECTED.

This same spirit revealed to you that God is same as the Angel Michael. This was said in the *angel Michaels thread* until much argument and scriptures. You later agrees it was Jesus and nit Yahweh. So I repeat, is it God revealing things or are you confirming yourself by someone's interpretation. Simple yes or no will do.

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