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frosbel: The Seventh Day Adventists, is just one of over 40,000 worldwide denominations.

Can you tell me why the leader of this church is a false prophet , what about the leaders of the other 40,000 denominations ? Could they not be false prophets.

While I am not in 100% agreement with this sect , especially their Sabbath doctrine and the Jesus being an Angel issue , they are 90% more accurate in their teachings than most of your mushroom pastor worshiping churches.

I will not discuss the Trinity , this has been over flogged for your information. If you want to preach 3 gods to Muslims and others , while making a comedy of Christianity , that's your prerogative.

I leave you with this small titbit.

"This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men, put him to death by nailing him to the cross.But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him." - Acts 2;23-24

All you guys are doing is assisting the Catholic church with their poisoning of the simple truth.

Plenty truth full inside wetin you write up there!!

If Jesus want us to know he was the God of the univers, He would have said it. It wasn't difficult for him to say he was the son of God. Because thats what he is. Anyone adding to this, ma him sabi. The way am seeing things. It looks like, when you reject the trinity , you becomes a SDA OR JWS. This is a wrong way to think. There secrets behind this doctrine. Na so i talk my own reach oo..this debate no go ever get ending.

Bidam: oya no vex..just asking ur thoughts on the issue na..na bad thing i do?

No be bad think? You supposed to know this thread was not treating such. I neva go ni hevun ni hell...abi u don visit any...

Image123: common tu ta pia pia? i know, i know, my French stinks, plap will teach me hopefully. I'm also learning some Greek from anukulapo, goshen and the hell-phobic gang.

HAHA...IT STINKS JUST LIKE THE FRENCH CHEESE which language you go teach me in return.. ?

truthislight: i dong dey vex o!.

Make people leave my pp alone o.

Imagine all this questions.

State your point and move jor.


she also efficiently made her stance clear.

Hahaha...I weak for @Bidam ooo..

Why should this be an interesting prophecy for you? A kind of threat to wins people abi?

tintingz: if you must understand what am saying Jesus(as) message to the isrealite is to worship God only

Mark 12:29 Jesus answered, "The most important is, 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord''

Luke 4:8 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only."


Quran 5:72 ''But the Messiah
[Jesus] said: ‘O Children of
Israel! Worship God, my Lord
and your Lord.''

Of what use does it makes repeating/copying the bible? To prove it was God? This was where the whole confusions started ...

What happened to the man that was writing Muhammad's vision? Why was He killed? Sure we can't quote the Quran/hadith. But this is were Islam History lies.

alexis: What Bible did the Quran quote on several occasion? Can you tell us where that is?

Thats why, its says, Jesus died and again Jesus did not die but was taken by God...contradiction gallore!!

tintingz: mtss...insulting that your corrupt scriptures? Wetin i wan insult in that your bible when we have gay bible version ''Queen James bible''

Prince James bible will soon be out wo

Btw...there are scriptures we muslims should accept in the bible that goes with the Quran

Islam rejected Jesus death, this alone is a failure !!!!

BetaThings: Seriously, I have issues with your response. Internet is accessible to anyone all over the world. I am beginning that English is not a language you are familiar. This is not to put you down. There is a muslim who posts here and you would realise that he is not familiar with English. I apologise if you feel that I do. But I cannot speak other languages. So I have similar limitation in other languages.

I have said it repeatedly. NOBODY will warn you for quoting the Qur'an
But if you think I did, Can you please point to where I did? Please oblige me
If I warned you for quoting the Qur'an I am prepared to apologise

Are you the moderator of this section? did i accuse you? see me see wahala ooo!!
As i am typing now, there is this written words in red facing me: To avoid being banned, please ensure that your post is not offensive to Islam.

Have i insulted Islam for posting the Quran/Hadiths? or for creating this thread? this is for the moderator that sent me this warning not you.

alexis: Send me the warning they sent you - I will address the moderator myself. Let them ban, I will register another account and post.

Haahahaha...i can't send it oo, its a written words saying,: To avoid being banned, please ensure that your post is not offensive to Islam.... Do this appears only when i am typing in the Islam section...hahahaha
I don't care if they ban me, its not a problem, multiple IDs is allowed..

alexis: You were warned by the moderator because of what? Please let me know what the moderator said. So if they get upset then what happens. The truth hurts, especially when it confronts people beliefs. If they can't stomach criticism, then they shouldn't post of the topic. No one is going to prevent another person from expressing his/her views on public forum. Our muslims friends have the same right just like everyone else.

The letter of this thread should be accepted by ignrance, can't you see the likes? some people just don't care to dig deep.
They accept welcome all sort of rubbish, (ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL RELIGION)yes sir, MUHAMMED WAS A TRUE PROPHET yes sir..

The plain truth about this religion is in the book itself. Anyone that have reads it, will never fall for thier toy stories.

proo212: I think Paul must have said some things that shook the core of Islam and other sects like Mormonism, reason why so much antagonism against him as an Apostle of God.


Colossians 2:18


Galatians 1:8-9

Very true, they can only accused Paul for thier failure to obey the Old prophets. Why should Muhammed go against the fact that Jesus was killed? according to the prophey?? i no know for him!

proo212: Madam Plappville, Praise God for this detailed explanation. According to the book of Revelation severally, the bible says he who has an ear let him hear what the spirit is saying...

Yes oo, we shouldn't allow ourselves to be decieved by some unstable faible stories!

F00028: no, paul said a lot things that shook the core of the christianity of Jesus Christ.

"The writings of Paul have been a danger and a hidden rock. the causes of the principal defects of Christian theology."
- writes theologian Ernest Renan, in his book Saint Paul.


Paul made Christianity the religion of Paul, not of Christ Paul threw the Christianity of Christ away, completely turning it upside down. making it just the opposite of the original proclamation of Christ"
- Soren Kierkegaard, The Journals.

Albert Schweitzer, winner of the 1952 Nobel Peace Prize, has been called "one of the greatest Christians of his time." He was a philosopher, physician, musician, clergyman, missionary, and theologian. In his The Quest for the Historical Jesus and his Mysticism of Paul he writes: "Paul....did not desire to know Christ....Paul shows us with what complete indifference the earthly life of Jesus was regarded....What is the significance for our faith and for our religious life, the fact that the Gospel of Paul is different from the Gospel of Jesus?....The attitude which Paul himself takes up towards the Gospel of Jesus is that he does not repeat it in the words of Jesus, and does not appeal to its authority....The fateful thing is that the Greek, the Catholic, and the Protestant theologies all contain the Gospel of Paul in a form which does not continue the Gospel of Jesus, but displaces it."   

Remove Paul from this first. Go to the old testamen, thesame Book Jesus used during and you will see that the Quran contradicts the OLD prophets. And besides, Paul was a confirmed Apostle of Jesus. He wouldn't have suceeded if not God that choosed him.

Acts 13:1-3

"[1] In the church at Antioch there were prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen (who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch) and Saul. [2] While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them." [3] So after they had fasted and prayed, they placed their hands on them and sent them off."

We also find that the authority and ministry that God gave to Paul was also,CONFIRMED BY OTHER APOSTLES.

Galatians 2:1-10"[1] Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem, this time with Barnabas. I took Titus along also. [2] I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. But I did this privately to those who seemed to be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain. [3] Yet not even Titus, who was with me, was compelled to be circumcised, even though he was a Greek. [4] This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. [5] We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might remain with you. [6] As for those who seemed to be important--whatever they were makes no difference to me; God does not judge by external appearance--those men added nothing to my message. [7] On the contrary, they saw that I had been entrusted with the task of preaching the gospel to the Gentiles, just as Peter had been to the Jews. [8] For God, who was at work in the ministry of Peter as an apostle to the Jews, was also at work in my ministry as an apostle to the Gentiles. [9] James, Peter and John, those reputed to be pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they to the Jews. [10] All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do."

F00028: @plappvile
I am not sure why you felt it necessary to quote all the above verses because I did not say paul invented Jesus neither did I say he was not the messiah.

pauline Christianity:
"In the teachings of Christ, religion is completely present tense: Jesus is the prototype and our task is to imitate him, become a disciple. But then through Paul came a basic alteration. Paul draws attention away from imitating Christ and fixes attention on the death of Christ The Atoner. What Martin Luther. in his reformation, failed to realize is that even before Catholicism, Christianity had become degenerate at the hands of Paul. Paul made Christianity the religion of Paul, not of Christ Paul threw the Christianity of Christ away, completely turning it upside down. making it just the opposite of the original proclamation of Christ"
- theologian Soren Kierkegaard, writing in The Journals.

These verses were very necessery, they contradicts the Quran denies of Jesus death for mankind.
The quran did says that Jesus did not die.This contradicts the OLD prophets. And if you note very well, you will see that the
Quran contradicted itself, by saying Jesus was not killed, but was raised to God, but atsame time, Isa said He died in the quran.

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
—Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158[1]

This same quran says the opposite that Jesus Himself said He died.
19:33 Maryam "So peace is on me the day I(Jesus) was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! (Islam Isa is speaking)

And does this below not state that God caused Jesus to die?

Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

This sounds like He died as well. He spoke of respect of: Birth, Death, Ressurection.
So if he just disappeared according to the quran, when will He die? That doesn't make any sense.
Will he die in his(2nd coming)?

If Jesus repeated and reminded His disciples what was said by the prophets concerning him, why should Muhammed say the opposite?

Luke 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.

Isaiah 53 That Predicted Jesus coming, His dieing for our sins, How he will be rejected etc etc which was fulfilled by Jesus was completely rejected by Muhammed. This made Him a false prophet.

JeSoul: I greet back oh my sister .

See topic ehn...lol.

I tire for my ppl oooh....

advocate666: hahaha.

Pockets of christians running empty!
And here was me thinking that this is the help-fellow-christian-in-need forum.

@op, it looks like christianity is not working for you. Try Satan.

See weak thinking....pockets running empty..
The Op no need to try Satan, you for just help am prove Satan, you know what I mean..

F00028: we couldn't care less about your pauline christianity or its collection of anonymous books turning a Prophet of God into something he never claimed he was!

but Jesus the Christ, the son of Mary, servant of the Ever Living God is our Prophet.

There is still chance for those that have life to accept what the prophets of God told. You cannot ignore all first prophets and claim thier prophecies were wrong why only yours is right, and it happens that, the prophecies of Muhammed contradicts that of the prophets of the old. Read the Torah and see for yourself.
The choice is ours.

F00028: we couldn't care less about your pauline christianity or its collection of anonymous books turning a Prophet of God into something he never claimed he was!

but Jesus the Christ, the son of Mary, servant of the Ever Living God is our Prophet.

Put Paul aside, the prophets of the old were not Paul, Paul came in only in the New testament.

Here is a prophecy on John the Baptist and Jesus. John confirmed He was not the one but Jesus is.
The Messiah would be preceded by a messenger

Malachi 3 “I will send my messenger, (John) who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come, (Jesus came after John)” says the Lord Almighty. NOTE: Jesus is the mensanger of the convenant according to the old prophets. If muhammed believed the old prophets He would not have denied Jesus dying to save man from sin.
Let read an other account for Both John the Baptist and Jesus:

Prophecy: Isaiah 40:1-5,9
Prophecy written: Between 701-681 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 27 AD Note: Paul was not yet!

In Isaiah 40:3, the prophet writes about a person in the desert who prepares the way for the Lord. This prophecy foreshadowed the life of John the Baptist, who played an important role in preparing the groundwork for the ministry of Jesus Christ. Jesus was born shortly after John the Baptist about 2000 years ago. The book of Matthew records many events of the life of Jesus and of John the Baptist. In Matthew 3:1-2, it says: "In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea, and saying, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."

Isaiah 40:1-5,9:
1 Comfort, comfort my people, says your God.

2 Speak tenderly to Jerusalem, and proclaim to her that her hard service has been completed, that her sin has been paid for, that she has received from the LORD's hand double for all her sins. NOTE: FOR ALL SINS!


3 A voice of one calling: "In the desert prepare the way for the LORD; make straight in the wilderness a highway for our God.

4 Every valley shall be raised up, every mountain and hill made low; the rough ground shall become level, the rugged places a plain.

5 And the glory of the LORD will be revealed, and all mankind together will see it. For the mouth of the LORD has spoken."

9 . . . say to the towns of Judah, "Here is your God!"

God promised another prophet like Moses
Bible prophecy: Deuteronomy 18:15-18
Prophecy written: As early as 1400 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 5 BC to 31 AD If you are honest, you will see how consistent this prophecy is.

In Deuteronomy 18:15-18, Moses told the Jews that God would raise up another prophet like Moses. After Moses, there was a succession of prophets, including Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, and finally Jesus Christ. [b]Jesus was very much like Moses. Both were delivered from death as infants from two evil rulers Pharaoh and Herod. Moses a Jew born when Egyptians (gentiles) ruled the people of Israel EX.1:8-10. Jesus a Jew was born when Romans (gentiles) ruled the people of Israel Lk. 2:1-5.
Moses was hidden in Egypt 3 months to keep him alive Ex 2:2. Jesus was also hidden in Egypt to keep him alive Mt. 2:13.
Moses' mother put him in the river in a BASKET Ex.2:3. Jesus' mother put him in a MANGER (feeding trough) Lk. 2:7.
Moses was brought up by a man who was not his natural father. Ex 2:9-10.Jesus was brought up by a man who was his stepfather, Joseph Lk. 2:33
Moses at a well, was kind to the daughters of the priest of Midian and watered their their flock (not the usual custom) Ex.2:17.
Jesus at a well, was kind to a Samaritan woman and offered her water (not the usual custom. John 4:9-11.
Moses was in exile in a foreign land until the king of Egypt died. Ex 2:23. Jesus was in exile in a foreign land until King Herod died Mt. 2:19-20.
Both were prophets. Both performed miracles. Jesus fed the crowd by miracle with fish and bread, while Moses in the desert with Manner from Heaven. Both were leaders. And both were intermediaries between God and man.[/b] Moses offered to die, if necessary, if God would forgive the sins of the people that Moses was leading (see Exodus 32:30-33). Jesus did die for our sins, so that people could enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
No other prophet is as much like Moses than Jesus.

Deuteronomy 18:15-18:15 The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

16 For this is what you asked of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly when you said, "Let us not hear the voice of the LORD our God nor see this great fire anymore, or we will die."

17 The LORD said to me: "What they say is good.

18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.

The Messiah would enter Jerusalem while riding on a donkey
Prophecy: Zechariah 9:9
Prophecy written: Between 520 and 518 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 31 AD

In Zechariah 9:9, the prophet speaks of a future king presenting himself to Jerusalem while riding on a humble donkey. This foreshadowed something that happened about 500 years later. As explained in Luke 19:35-37, Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey and presented himself as the Messiah, the King.
Alfred Edersheim, a Christian Jew who lived during the 1800s, studied ancient Rabbinical writings, and said that Zechariah 9:9 was often interpreted as being about a Messiah. In his book, The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, Edersheim wrote: "The Messianic application of this verse in all its parts has already been repeatedly indicated. We may here add that there are many traditions about this donkey on which the Messiah is to ride; and so firm was the belief in it, that, according to the Talmud, 'if anyone saw a donkey in his dreams, he will see salvation' (Ber 56 b)."


Zechariah 9:9:Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Jesus proclaims that he is the Messiah
Bible prophecy: John 4:19-26
Prophecy written: During the first century
Prophecy fulfilled: Since the time of Jesus

In Matthew 5:17, John 4:25-26, and in other verses, Jesus proclaims that he was the Messiah promised by the Old Testament prophets.
He remains the first and only person in history to be taken seriously by people throughout the world as being the Messiah that so many of the Bible's prophets had prophesied about.

John 4:19-26:19 "Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet.

20 Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."

21 Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem.

22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.

23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.

24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

25 The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."

26 Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."


The Messiah would be rejected NOTE:There IS NO PAUL DURING THE TIME OF THESE PROPHECIES, SO HE SHOULDN'T BE ACCUSSSED:
Bible prophecy: Isaiah 53:1-3
Prophecy written: Between 701-681 BC
Prophecy fulfilled: About 31 AD

In Isaiah 52:13-53:12, the prophet foreshadowed the life and mission of Jesus, who was born about 700 years later. In Isaiah 53:3, the prophet said that a servant of God would be rejected and despised. Jesus was indeed rejected by many people living in the land of Israel, and He was later crucified.


But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isaiah 53:1-3:1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. There was not Paul since the prophecy, So, before you accuse Paul, go to the OLD prophecies and see how they work hand and hand with Jesus fulfilling them. Now, Muhammed denied all these prophecies that Jesus fulfilled, How then do you think he does not fits these prophecies??

Those who denies Christ:

[size=16pt]1 John 2:22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.[/size]

Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible

John 14:6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

john 10:9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture.

John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies;

plappville: I withnessed a friend Husband burial, The man was an athiest, He was sick for many years before He finally gave up.
When He died, His family and wife took His body to the Cathedral for prayers before cremation.
The dead man gave the instruction that His body should be burned.

My surprise is, i didn't know the Church does accept praying for dead atheists, and even doing the cremation too.

Its my first time to see such in the church. So please, if you have anything to share on this, kindly do.
Thank you.

Bidam: HEHEHEHE.. burning of dead bodies..what about the Christians that were burnt for what they stood for in time past? plappville do you think they are in heaven or hell ?

Did i create this thread to know if burn or buried bodies go to heaven or not? Am i the one that decides who goes to Heaven?
Should the church bury an atheist? and should the church perform cremation? Behave as if you no understand the thread and keep asking me questions you know so well i am not in position to answer.

All these women/girls wen dey find miracle deliverance here and there, This is how they usually ends up.
How can she even take off her pant? Infact..........;;this is MOG own don dey too much.
The other time, na pastor lie down on top of a fellow man..........Na waoh for end time oooo...

Goshen360: My sister, Ouais, je vais bien que vous êtes également profiter de la grâce de Dieu.

Je te comprendre. Nous sommes tous egaux Dans les yeux de notre Dieu...!

Jesus is a good example, apart from the fact he had no female disciples, scriptures shows He was free/open to both male and female. Even Paul was severally helped by female believers . When Jesus resurrected, it was the women that saw him first. This is a sigh for women role in the body of Christ. Although the bible did not say much about Mary, we know that she might have played some roles after Christ death.

Paul cannot mean a woman should seal her mouth in the Church. This is wrong interpretation. But at thesame time. I do not think its an easy task for a woman to head a Church.

tintingz: dont quote any Quran verses here...just answer the op question

You will soon read the uncountable slavery verses of the Quran/hadith....hahaha..why do Muslim not respect this slavery laws? They decided to put a stop to it? Allah must be angry with you .for not owning a slave....

Bidam: [b]PROPAGANDA..GOD PUNISH DEVIL..THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST ARE IN TROUBLE

You think you are doing Christ s service by insulting the whole house?

Bidam: mumu...oya show me the contradictions na..eva wondered why your fathers like boomark and frosbel no comment? becus them no find fault in the son of moi..you just dey here they talk thrash abeg go siddon if you dont have any positive contributions to offer in this thread..i get ya tym this evening well well...JUST LOOK AT YOUR ANTICHRIST DOCTRINES STARING RIGHT BACK AT YOU IN THE FACE..YOU THINK SAY NA ONLY YOU SABI USE COMPUTER INSULT ANYHOW ABI? THUNDER FIRE THaT YOUR ROTTEN MOUTH FOR TELLING ME KJV IS FRAUDULENT..ALL THIS OCCULTIC PPLE SEF AND THERE WAHALA...the reason why you know an occult grp like modalism is becos you are also part of an occult..

Hahaha...this man still dey live him before life ooooo..

alexis: The intention is not to offend anyone - if they are, no harm was meant - however, no apologies will be given either. If no one can take criticism, then they shouldn't be on a public forum. The popular Islamic scholar Ahmed Deedat called the Bible, a pornographic book - No one issued a fatwa against him or asked that he should be killed. It was his point of view and opinion. We are having a logical discussion on a public forum. I know emotions runs high when it comes to certain topics. I don't see how the Moderator should ban anyone. We should be civil but be truthful all the same.

The bitter truth hurts... I will soon post updates, let him ban me. St lease, multiple IDs is not prohibited. @tintingz keep insulting the bible in the religion section. Who cares? After insult, they still use it to validate their Prophet,,,,,how wise are they! Anyway, Thank yu J

BARRISTERS: @plappvile



the problem they have is that they evade questions! how do you work with such?

not that he didnt get what you are saying, he actually get the gist straight! but Bidam will go for a childish defensive measure, just watch out, but something i knew that would happen with our persistence is that many will learn and they will distinguish the truth from falsehood!

Bidam gave up Islam and embraced Trinity, this is strange ... From fire to fire..

If the God of the universe was the one that was killed on the Cross, then He has lied and made many deceived by the prophets of the old.

The Demons called Jesus son of the living/most high God, they know him so well. Trinitarians said God shared himself into three, yet Holy spirit couldn't come down except Jesus leave first. And Jesus on the Cross called on his Father to forgive those that killed him....

Some Christians have three gods like the Muslims ...haha

[quote author=i.chuka]Who told you His throne was empty.He left His Divinity/His Godly nature in Heaven and came down and took the form of a man,a servant to be precise....Phlippns2:6-8..He even send His Spirit back to Heaven before His death...Luke23:47.
His Divinity is that which makes Him God.[/quote]Am sorry to say, but your analogue on this shows that, this god Is not capable of using the former means, He now decided to kill himself to save msn from sin. And while he was on earth, He deceived even his Disciples?
Will it be too difficult for him to plainly tell them He was thesame God of their father?


And you are suggesting that the nature that came to earth was transformed to human nature? Are you not equally saying that God did undergo certain changes? So the woman that God created now gave birth to God? This really made sense to you?

I hope you know the old prophets never said that the messiah will be God himself . Or do we now say that God has lied/deceive the Jews? What he promised was not what they saw? Is this thesame God they used to know? A God that persistently told them he cannot be seen by man, he cannot die, he cannot be tempted, He does not change etc.. has suddenly changed is nature without telling His children why? Infact, the trinity makes God look like a liar. This doctrine should be rejected.

F00028: that's very christian of you...

And your thread is very muslim of you...you trust your faith, we don't disturb you. But you will not allow us to be at peace. The accuracy of the bible on how Islam will twist everything and deceive many is so so plain. Leave the corrupted bible alone and follow only your Quran/Hadith....shameful religion that needs to back itself up with s book he already condemn..