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chynabest: As a christian and a as a church youth president i find it difficult to do without CHEWING GUM. I cant stay a day without chewing gum, i mean i somuch like it and cant go without it and it has become part of me. As a youth president i have been heavily criticised by my fellow youth members for setting bad example to other youths, they labels chewing gum a "SIN" before God. But i dont see it as such. So is chewing gum really a SIN Before God?. Your openion is very important.Tanx

I dont think its a bad thing, how much more calling it a sin, But It also depends. You do not have to pose any problem to others with it.

frosbel: and he is a prophet

what spirit is leading him to do this ?

I no know ooo, the man dey disgrace Himself not Christ..

JeSoul: Sister P'ville, nor vex ehn. I took the pic out. Too much for NL 'family friendly' goal. Users can click the link to see it. Muchos gracias, I mean merci beaucoup.

Its all ok, you're doing your job perfectly!!!

[quote author=i.chuka]The problem is that you guys are not ready to SEE!!![/quote]To see that Yahweh and Jesus are like this in the below picture?

aadetoyin: This has nothing to do with Christianity, the man is just an evil person. Y would anyone be this wicked

With the look of thisngs, if this man have the oppotunity, He can eliminate this little boy. The hate is much i can't believe it!

[quote author=Bélla3]Are you sure the man is stable? We are talking oe his own son here![/quote]That's a good question, i find it hard to believe that a Father could treat His own son in such a manner, even if He is not religious.
A fatherly heart is loving but this case is like a total hate from a Father....

Bidam: my broda... me i don resign o.. e bi lyk say the thing dey too chuck dem for body say JESUS NA GOD... self-righteous pharisee

God Get Father? God dey pray to himself?? abi you dey contradict yourself??

Boomark: I noticed that too. No atom of the fruit of the Holyspirit, yet he is the chairman of those that claim to be filled. Seems he has no regard for the name of God and don't know Him as Yahweh.

SMH!!!

Bidam has also shown little trust in Pauls teaching....Strange Bros Bidam!!

advocate666: The face of Christianity.

This is not Christianity, Did Jesus show this example? why twisting things up?

F00028: you are now jumping o.t - n.t

Did you accept the OT's I presented? yes or no?

these can fit anybody.Isaiah 9:6
Isaiah 11:2
Isaiah 16:5
Haggai 2:9

So You are saying these prophets have lied or not accurate, Yet your Quran claims He believed the Old prophets??
Ok, if you claim thier prophecies was not for Jesus, then you have to provide who these prophecies fits detail by detail just like i did for Jesus.

you can correct me if I am wrong but no one, at anytime ever called Jesus 'Immanuel'.

You are not wrong at all. But i want you to know that, there are many names given to Jesus using the phrase “He shall be called,” both in the OT and NT.
This was a common way of saying that people would refer to Him in these various ways.
Isaiah prophesied of the Messiah, “His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace” (Isaiah 9:6).

None of these titles was Jesus’ actual name, but these were descriptions people would use to refer to Him forever. Luke tells us Jesus “shall be called the Son of the Highest” (Luke 1:32) and “son of God” (1:35) and “the prophet of the Highest” (1:76), but none of these was His name.

In two different places, the prophet Jeremiah says in referring to the coming Messiah, “And this is His name by which He shall be called, ‘The Lord is our righteousness.’” (Jeremiah 23:5-6; 33:15-16).. Jesus was never actually called ‘The Lord is our righteousness. as though it was His name, but His role was that of bringing the righteousness of God to those who would believe in Him, exchanging that righteousness for our sin (2 Corinthians 5:21).
Therefore, this is one of the many titles or “names” which belong to Jesus.

In the same way, to say that Jesus would be called "Immanuel" means Jesus is God dwelling among us and that He is always with us. When we have Jesus, We have God.
God made His dwelling among us through Jesus (John 1:1,14). So you are right, Jesus was not called Immanuel, but Jesus was the meaning of Immanuel, "God with us."
Immanuel is one of the many titles for Jesus, a description of who He is.

A man who claim to be a prophet of God can be this cruel....

A cleric, Prophet Elikanah Ajibade, who was charged to court on Tuesday and was remanded in prison, for alleged physical abuse of his son for attending a church service against his instruction, has denied reports that he asked the boy to roll on hot coal ashes.The boy who is now in the care of JWC staff, reportedly left home for the new year eve service on Monday, December 31, 2012, in a church which was not his father’s. The father, a Cherubim and Seraphim prophet at Okinni, a town in Egbedore Local Government area of Osun State, had earlier told his son who is his late wife’s third son not to go to any other church for the service to usher in a new year.

It was gathered that Prophet Ajibade, in annoyance, went to the church, rudely interrupted the service and brought David out, lashing him with strokes of cane. Despite efforts and pleas by members of the church, Salvation Army Church, Okinni, to rescue the hapless boy, the father continued his lashing.

Narrating his ordeal, David disclosed that his maltreatment in the hands of his father, stepmother and stepbrother, began with the demise of his biological mother. “When we got home, my dad, his wife and her son descended on me. They tied my hands with a rope and started beating me mercilessly”.

With tears streaming down his cheeks, David Ajibade said, “after beating me, my stepmother locked my me and my father inside and took the key away. Then my dad continued to beat me and when he was tired, he ordered that I should be rolling on hot ashes”.

But Prophet Ajibade would justify his inhuman treatment of his own son claiming he was fond of running away from home for years. He said, “he used to run away for weeks and would come back himself.On his last deed which got me angry, he ran away for one week”.

informationng.com gathered that the father had never reported his son as missing to the police thus rendering his excuse untenable. The father further stated that he decided to punish the boy because of the tension and anxiety he went through and the problems he encountered while looking for the boy but denied his son’s claim that he asked him to roll on hot ashes.

Confirming the arraignment in court, the Police Public Relations Officer in Osun State, Mrs Folasade Odoro, said that the operatives of JWC were administering proper care and medical treatment on the boy in their custody.

http://naijamayor.com/why-i-maltreated-my-son-prophet-elikanah-ajibade-photo/

Bidam :He is the same with the father..

Bidam: you are actually getting me wrong plappville...i never said Jesus had no FATHER.

IF HE HAS A FATHER THEN HOW CAN HE FATHER HIMSELF. ARE YOU YOUR FATHER?

YOUR FATHER AND YOU ARE TWO PERSONS . SO DOES JESUS AND HIS FATHER NO'?

LOOK @ I Timothy 1:17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

I Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Is this verse for Jesus?

Bidam: you are actually getting me wrong plappville...i never said Jesus had no FATHER.

Ok sir, this is good to know He has/had a Father, this means He is not The Father abi?

Saksreal: The thread looks long to read but let me add my contributions according to the thread title( Using only bible verses).

GOD and JESUS.

"Jesus answered, the foremost is, HEAR, O ISRAEL! THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD( mark 12:29)

"I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD WHO BROUGHT YOU OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF SLAVERY,YOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER gods BEFORE ME" (deut 5:6-7)

"THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE, THAT THEY MAY KNOW YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST WHOM YOU HAVE SENT" ( John 17:3)

"Jesus answere him,"It is written, YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD AND SERVE HIM ONLY" (Luke 4:

Man was never, is never and will never be God because man and God have different qualities, attributes. Prophet Jesus was a man not God.

"GOD IS NOT A MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE, NOR THE SON OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD REPENT"(numbers 23:19) . God is not man but Jesus was a man, so according to the Bible, Jesus is not God.

"But peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men" (Act 5:29)

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the Man Jesus christ".( 1 Timothy 2:5) *Anoda proof Jesus is not God since he is a man*

" Men of israel, listen to these words; Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with Miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through him" (ACTS 2:22) - The man Jesus didnt perform miracles by himself but the one and only God performed miracles through him.

"Jesus heard that they had put him out and finding him, He said, "Do you believe in the SON OF MAN? He answered," Who is He, Lord that i may believe in him?" Jesus said to him, you have both seen him and he is the one who is talking to You. (John 9:35-37)

You try, thank you!

Saksreal: Contd.

Jesus was tempted by the Devil but God cant be, therefore Jesus is not God.

"Let no one say when he is tempted, "I Am BeING tempted by God, for God cannot be tempted by evil and He himself does not tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is carried away by his own lust". (James 1:13-15)


(THEN JESUS WAS LED UP BY THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS TO BE TEMPTED BY THE DEVIL..........(Continue reading (Mathew 4:11)
The above also proves he is not God because God cannot be tempted.

( A ruler questioned him saying, "Good teacher, what shall i do to inherit eternal life? And Jesus said to him " WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE" ( luke 18:18-19)
Yet another proof.


Is Jesus the only Son of God according to the bible? (NO)

"Mathew 5:1-9):
When Jesus saw the crowd, he went up on the mountain and after he sat down, his disciples came to him, He opened his mouth and began to teach them saying,

"BLESSED ARE THE POOR IN SPIRIT FOR THEIRS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO MOURN FOR THEY SHALL BE COMFORTED..........



BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS FOR THEY SHALL BE CALLED THE SONS OF GOD.) if Jesus would be the only son of God, would he say that the peacemakers are sons of God? NO, because that wld have been a lie. And we know Jesus wldnt lie since lying is a sin according to the bible.

"For all who are being led by the spirit of God, these are sons of God( Romans 8:14)

"For you all are sons of God through faith in christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)

"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and satan also came among them: (Job 1:6)

Remember God promised to make prophet David his son( Firstborn) - Psalm 89:20-27



[s]Finally, Say; He is Allah, the one; Allah, the eternal, absolute; He begetteth not, bnor is he begotten; and there is none like unto him. (Quran 112:1-4)[/s]

Na ur fault? if no be trinitarians, wetin go even give you the mind to post the three godesses here: el-Lat, el-Uzza, and Manat
You and the trinitarians are tied up with three gods..........

The full news is better, some people are very reluctant in clicking links.

Suspected militant Islamists have beheaded five people in Nigeria's north-eastern city of Maiduguri, a resident has told the BBC.

The men were attacked during raids on three homes overnight, he said in an account confirmed by a local reporter.

However, the military told the BBC only three people had been killed.

At least 23 others have been killed in separate attacks in the north this week blamed on militants wanting to impose Islamic law on Nigeria.

The insurgency was launched by Boko Haram in Maiduguri in 2009, but a second militant group, Ansaru, emerged last year.

Last month, suspected militants slit the throats of at least 15 Christians near Maiduguri.

In the latest attack, the assailants first beheaded a father and son at their home, before beheading two other men at their residence and a fifth person at another house in Maiduguri, said a resident, who spoke to the BBC Hausa service on condition of anonymity.

It is unclear who carried out the attacks or what their motives were, but there are strong suspicions that Boko Haram was involved, the resident said.

Hunters killed

A Maiduguri-based journalist confirmed the resident's account to the BBC.

But army spokesman Lt-Col Sagir Musa said suspected gunmen killed three people during the attack.

The joint task force - made up of soldiers and policemen - rushed to the scene when it was alerted, he said.

"It cordoned off the area, arrested three suspects and recovered one assault rifle with ten rounds of ammunition," Lt-Col Musa said.

"Two gunmen lost their lives and a soldier was wounded during an exchange of fire."

On Monday, gunmen apparently targeted hunters selling bush meat in Damboa in north-east Nigeria, killing 18 people, witnesses said.

Another five people died on Tuesday when a group of men playing draughts was attacked in Kano.

No group has said it is responsible for the attacks.

Strict Muslims believe it is forbidden to eat animals such as monkeys or to play games that could influence people to take up gambling.

These attacks followed an attempt on the life of the second most important Muslim leader in Nigeria, the Emir of Kano, whose convoy came under fire on Sunday. He survived but several of his guards were killed

Boko Haram has been blamed for the deaths of some 1,400 people in central and northern Nigeria since 2010.

Last year alone, the group was linked to more than 600 deaths.

Ansaru announced its existence last June.

In December, it said it had kidnapped French national Francis Colump in the northern Katsina state.

alexis: I see that as well. Again, let them BAN - that wouldn't stop me from posting

Image123: e nglish, hahahahaha. sorry sorry sorry, I'll teach you errrm writing in tongues.

Why sorry three times? the trinity don really enter your blood hahahaha....(jk)
I go enroll for your class, but you must not make this kind of mistake or else, you no go qualify to teach....

enilove: As christians there are somethings we need to undetstand so that the unbelievers will not continue in their idol worshipping ,because of our own lack of understanding of the bible and refusal to read it and allow the spirit of God to minister unto us.Jesus said we are the light of the world.meaning we are to show others the way.
In the book of Proverb chapter 8:23-36 reads
"I was set up from evarlasting ,from biginning,or ever the earth was.When there were no depths,when there were no fountains abounding with water.Before the mountains were settled,b4 the hills was I brought forth:While as yet he had not made the earth,nor the highest part of the dust of the world.When he prepared the heavens,I was there :when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:when he established the clouds above :when he strenghened the fountains of the deep:................verse 30 "Then I was by him,as one brought up with him:and I was daily his delight,rejoicing always b4 him:verse 34 -35 says " for whoso findeth me findeth life,but he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul and they all that hate me love death.
From the above scripture you can bring out words like I WAS BROUGHT FORTH ,I WAS SET UP when God the father was creating the universe.
Jesus Christ is different from God Almighty .
The words Almighty God is a title not a name .
God is a title as you can see where God told the Israelites"thou shall worship no other gods beside me"
Almighty on the other hand means .... having relatively unlimited power.
In Philipians 2:6 It tells us that Jesus christ has the form of God.A two year old lion is a lion,because its form is that of a lion.
Jesus Christ is God ,but remember that God is title ,that was why God Almighty gave His name to Moses.He did not say "My name is God"Jesus Christ too has a name,his was not named God. You can see that the name God gave to Moses is different from Jesus's name.
They are two different parsonalities but united in purpose or oneness in purpose ,principles and everyother thing.
A man and his wife are one.but two people if you remove marriage.
Jesus christ said I and my father are one.When he was baptised the voice came from heaven saying "this is my beloved son in whom am well pleased"
Jesus christ kept saying "my father in heaven".when he was crucified he told the thief on his right hand that he would be with his father in heaven.More than 50 times in the bible the Lord Jesus Christ said MY FATHER.
Before raising up Lazarus from the dead , he prayed to his father in heaven.You can not tell me that he was praying to himself .

Philipians2:9 says "God has highly exalted Jesus Christ and given him a name that is above all names"
This means God the father is existing and different from Jesus His son.
Gen.41:44 Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh,without thee shall no man lift up his hands or foot in the land of Egypt.verse 55 says when there was famine in the land the people cried to Pharoah for bread,which Pharaoh gave unto them by telling them to go and meet Joseph.Likewise we ask God for all thing through our Lord Jesus Christ.

You are correct in saying that the book of revelation called Jesus Almighty God and also the Alpha and the Omega. Infact it was Jesus christ himself that gave that testimony ,and we know Jesus can not lie or does not lie.Jesus is actually Alpha and Omega.But that is a title.And Jesus did not say I am the only Alpha and Omega.Joseph was given all the power in Egypt but not above Pharaoh.
When you read further that book of revelation chpter1:18 Jesus christ says "I am he that liveth and was dead and behold ,I am alive for evermore.
From here Jesus Christ gave messages to John for the 7 churches from Chapter 1to chapter 3 .In chapter 3:12 Jesus said he that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and will write upon him the name of my God.This means Jesus has a God.verse 14 Jesus Christ says that he is the beginning of the creation of God.Likewise revelation 3:21 Jesus testifies that "I am set down with my father on the throne.
The above was the complete or conclusion of message given by Jesus to John.Confirming that God is on the throne.

Joseph was ruling the people of Egypt but not ruling Pharaoh that gave him the authority and one of his chariots to ride on. He also said every Egyptian must bow their knee to Joseph.Likewise in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ every knee must bow.But not the knee of his Father Almighty God.
It is written for God so love the world that he gave His only begotten son ,that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but ,but have everlasting life.This is in that proverb also and in Revelation 5:1-9.showing why the lord Jesus christ came ,when he took the book from the hand of Almighty God.

When you quote the bible in a middle way you may not fully understand it until you read it to the end and allow the spirit of God to minister to you.

The children of the bond woman who are being lead by the devil in perpetrating evil arround the world now, may continue if we do not read our bible and pray for them.When we are ask one or two questions and you do not know or give you own opinion as the answer because you did not read the bible for understanding.How would they be convinced .

The devil is not foolish ,he will set up augument among brothers so as to have his way.His doing so now succesfully among christians.
Some find it hard to believe that God have a son,because they are trying to bring God to their level , thinking there must be a wife b4 one can have a child.
How much more to say he is still the Almighty God the father by virtue or trait of mere title and neglecting all the written fact and given meaning to something you did not fully understand.
In the biginning was the word ,and the word was with God,and the word was God. The word was with God, means, two personalities with the title God.
The same was in the biginning with God.Confirming proverb 8:23 to the end.

Please let me know where am wrong with bible references.

Thank you and Stay blessed.

VERY PLAIN AND WELL EXPLAINED! KUDOS BRO...

@Bidam, can you explain these please?

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father who sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers; I will put my words in his mouth, and he will tell them everything I command him.

ohn 5:19 Jesus gave them this answer: "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

John 8:26 "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is reliable, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."

And this?

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
Thank you.

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

See Jesus fulfilling it here: Matthew 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Isaiah 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him--the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD--

Isaiah 16:5 In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it--one from the house of David--one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness.

Haggai 2:9 The glory of this present house will be greater than the glory of the former house,' says the LORD Almighty. 'And in this place I will grant peace,' declares the LORD Almighty."

Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel"--which means, "God with us."

F00028: you cant really blame them because for one thing the prophesy didn't say his name will be Jesus and the description doesn't fit him.

No one is blaming them, they rejecting Jesus is a fulfillment of the prophecy. The name is not the LCM here, the discriptions of His kind are so accurate.

F00028: you cant really blame them because for one thing the prophesy didn't say his name will be Jesus and the description doesn't fit him.

You are behaving like the Pharisees here. The Priests and the Pharisees didn't see anything good in Jesus, He was poor looking,
He loved the mingling with the poor, sometimes, they will adress him as the Carpenters son.
They needed/epected someone different, but Man is not God, Jesus came exactly how the prophecy discribed him.

Luke 9:58 Jesus replied, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."

F00028: come one plappville!
he didn't say, he died! he said, "the day that I die..."
dont you read the stuff you copy and paste?

Jesus Christ being that close to God knows better than anybody "every soul shall taste death" (Quran 21:35) one day, one day

besides, there's another verse like it about John the Baptist:
"So peace on him the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life" -Quran 19:15

does that say to you John the Baptist died on the cross too?

come one plappville!
he didn't say, he died! he said, "the day that I die..."
dont you read the stuff you copy and paste?

Oh he said this and He did not die?? and when Allah also said He will cause Him to die, He didn't keep to His word?

Lo! God said: "O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to die, and shall exalt thee unto Me, and cleanse thee of [the presence of] those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee [far] above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the Day of Resurrection. In the end, unto Me you all must return, and I shall judge between you with regard to all on which you were wont to differ.

Jesus Christ being that close to God knows better than anybody "every soul shall taste death" (Quran 21:35) one day, one day

So when will ISA (JESUS) die, if accoding to the quran, he didnt test death before?

besides, there's another verse like it about John the Baptist:
"So peace on him the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life" -Quran 19:15

does that say to you John the Baptist died on the cross too?

Euhh!! i wonder why the cross was added? Yes it says and shows that John the Baptise was born and died!

Isa 53:1-12 Who hath believed our report?
certainly not the Jews... yet
and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
The ARM OF GOD 'Jesus' is revealed to those believing him.
JESUS AS THE ARM OF GOD Proof
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form
nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
The Jews rejected Jesus as not fitting their expected hopes for a messiah, Jesus came to die for our sins.
He is despised and rejected of men;
Jews rejected Jesus
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief:
The lame, poor, thieves, prostitutes, etc... accepted him
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
The Pharisees and Priests didn't want to associate with him due to the people he helped and due to His family poor background.
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
And most Jews still don't see Jesus for who he is.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken,
smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions,
Jesus was heavily beaten, whipped, and died for our sins
he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
The shroud shows some 140 stripes {scourging} on his body
6 All we like sheep have gone astray;
Jesus likened his followers to sheep that occasionally get lost, needing a good shepherd to come find them
we have turned every one to his own way;
Sheep off getting lost
and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
(Again, Jesus died for the sins of the world, you and me.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted,
What the Romans in power and the Jews did to him prior to him dying
yet he opened not his mouth:
Jesus did not defend himself against his accusers
he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter,
Jesus was also said to be the replacement for the sacrificial lamb used to pay for sins
and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
Again, Jesus would not defend himself and allowed them to kill him
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment:
It's recorded history, Jesus was taken and judged
and who shall declare his generation?
His followers declare who Jesus is
for he was cut off out of the land of the living:
Jesus died
for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
Lambs were and are sacrificed for sins, but Jesus has paid that price for all who accept his dying for our sins.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked,
Crucified next to two thieves
and with the rich in his death;
Jesus was buried by Joseph of Aramathea, a rich man, in a tomb originally made for Joseph of Aramathea.
because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
Again, Jesus did not defend himself or lie about why he was there, they just couldn't believe him.
10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him;
Jesus is a RETURN sacrifice that matches Abraham's offer of love to God. Here God is offering his love to us.
It's an extreme amount of love to follow through with it and it made God happy to offer such and that Jesus would do it.
he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin,
Again, Jesus died for our sins.
he shall see his seed,
Jesus himself said the "seed" are the children of God,also known initially as apostles and disciples.
he shall prolong his days, NOTE: Luke 24:39-40 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have." 40 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and feet.
Jesus raised from the dead, He lives
and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Again, God was happy to send HIS HAND, Jesus to die for our sins. Jesus himself gave a verse set{John 10:28-30} that plainly shows Jesus
ADMITTING he's AT LEAST God's HAND.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall
my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Again, God saw Jesus do what he had set up, that Jesus would die for the sins of the world.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong;
Jesus said God gives followers into Jesus's hand, Jesus also said he will forgive sins for those who believe him
and also that he would divide those who believe from those who don't believe
because he hath poured out his soul unto death:
Jesus died, but later will divide the spoil with the strong
and he was numbered with the transgressors;
One of his apostles cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest when they came to arrest Jesus.
Jesus then healed the ear of the servant. Prior to that time Jesus always told his apostles to constantly
forgive, turn the other cheek, and give others as they ask. Jesus healing the servant's ear and telling the
apostle to put the sword away canceled that same evening's command to take a sword with them. It shows itwas not a sword of defense.
He even said the taking of the sword that night was to fulfill the prophecy {this very one}.
and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Jesus Christ Jesus admitted he was sent to die for the sins of the world by just prior to allowing himself to be killed
he said:Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Further confirmation that Jesus would die for OTHERS:Mark 10:45 For the Son of man came not to be ministered unto,
but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

So my broda in ADAM AND EVE, all this is fairly EASY to see once you honestly BELIEVE the New
Testament. Isaiah 53 is a PROPHECY about Jesus, written 750 years PRIOR to Jesus showing up.

God made it all, Jesus died for our sins. ISLAM missed/got it all wrong!!

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F00028: really now? have you actually ever read Isaiah 53?
Isaiah 53 speaks of a man who was despised by mankind, had “no form nor comeliness”; who was wounded for our transgressions; who said not a word; and was buried with the wicked and the rich… etc

But…according to your bible Jesus had followers who loved him (to this day there are 1.5 billion of us muslims who love him not despise him);

-you claim Jesus was not merely wounded for our transgressions he was killed;

-Jesus did speak-he spoke to the jews, to pilate and on the cross; and

- he not was buried and even f you can call it that, he was alone!

Isaiah 53 also says God will prolong his life and he will live to even see his offspring:

Did the biblical Jesus have a wife (s) and kids?

Yes i have read it, and when you use the NT with it, you will see how perfectly this prophecy was fulfilled.
Its a prediction given by God, and written BEFORE Jesus showed up. this prophecy was written to the Jews by a
Jewish prophet named Isaiah about a later to be born Jew named Jesus. Oddly enough, the Jews hold the prophecy as being the truth,
but like the prophecy says they don't believe the person it's about. On the whole, they despise and reject Jesus just like it says they would.

God has set up Jesus and the Jews as a PROOF that only he could have predicted the events and set them up. The New Testament
says the Jews in Jerusalem will eventually see Jesus for who he is: the saviour of the world and the ARM OF GOD.

From the Old Testament Isaiah 53 (750 years before Jesus):

Let me braek it down from verse 1 so you can grab this prophecy properly.

Bidam: "Heb 1:4
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Jesus as every son does inherited his name from his father. The father's name is Jesus."

Really ?? Please dig deeper and explain am learning a new thing here....

CHINEKE....NA SO E DON REACH?
What will be the next?

Fr0sbel: The institutionalized Babylon church and their mother ( you know who ) has a tendency to paint anyone who does not agree with them as a cult.

But , when we revisit the definition of cult, they are actually the cult members, worshiping MEN and assisting them with the building of their kingdoms.

Hypocrites, all of them !!

GBAM...GBAM..AND GBAM. I smell that too!

See Christian fighting themselves with scriptures .. .everyone is purer than the other. S..M...H!