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King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Who his own self bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed. - 1 Peter 2:24

wordthots: @ bro Goshen, great stuff!
So happy dat God is raisin up men in dese last days...so many practices n doctrines in d present day church have bn unquestioned for years. I believe the word is our standrd and it should always be given first place. The fact that a doctrine is practiced by lots of churches n has bn practiced for years doesn't make it right.

chukwudi44: The same applies to JWs and SDAs they need to accede to biblical corrections and not hold tenaciously to traditions promulgated by the watchtower and ellen .G.white. So many good JWs and SDAs have left their false russellic teachings to embrace the true faith.

BARRISTERS: @boomark a reminder pls, you are yet to give me your answer on this detail pls.

2b, apart from being srevants, are there other angelic features either in apeearance or form/look that differentiate them which is not shared by other spirit creatures in heaven other than the duties?.

again can you pls explain who jesus companions are; [i]'your companions' [/i]in this verse pls;

heb 1:9

You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your[size=14pt]companions[/size]



kindly answer pls.

truthislight: bros, the guy is a local champion.

Since bible is not his strength, but he is and has been a lie on NL, he is really very confuse now.

Let him come up and show a bible portion and point out how the portion of the bible is being contradicted so that he can be taken seriously.

The stu.pid.ity of truet2god is large in deed.

Him and myjoe/nimshi and one Benoghor really are a big deceit.

Boomark:

My dagger still dey wait for you.

I never wan throw missile on truugun. I believe he can handle the issue of the elders better than he has done.

Boomark: Jesus existed as God not as an angel(god) or the Almighty GOD who is God over all. Godliness varies base on power.

Hebrew did not contradict the scripture. There is nothing to contradict. Hebrew laid the foundation. Until Hebrew is dealt with, what you guys are believing might not be what it is.

BARRISTERS: @plappvile

True2God to BARRISTERS confirming what barristers had treated in page 14, now in page 30;

tintingz: Ignorant crusaders

Get behind me...

dexmond: ^^^^

You are denying your scholars who spent most of their lives studying Islam. I may well advise you to stop listening to your all your Alfas because if they study hard like those I quoted above, they will surely end up telling you the same. The main point is that Islam teaches and encourages violence, you can not pick what to believe as allah will not accept anything but total submission from you. What are you going to teach your kids, love or hate?

Sweetnecta: @dexmond: in Islam of Muhammad [sa], the only human being you can not disagree with is Muhammad [sa].
this means the only human that can not be wrong is Muhammad [sa] when it comes to spirituality and morality.

so the 'experts' you have quoted, are just experts. people can reject or ignore or disagree with their statements, except when it grounded in what Muhammad [sa] brought, the Quran and or his pattern of behavior based on it and or his saying [what he says
agrees with the Quran].

BARRISTERS: @ plappville


you are funny, im enjoying your work on other threads too, it seems that some people cant sustain this tread, im not reffering to boomark, but others, what do you observe?

Boomark: Who are the elders in heaven? Are they angels? This will help you see what am thinking.

We are focusing at the point of "begottenation." when did the decree declared? "You are my Son...."

1 was it when he was above the angels b4 he came to the earth?

2 was he equal to the angels?

3 was it when he was made lower than the angels?

4 was it when he was glorified above the angels after his death?

I want you to tell me yourself, let me be sharpening my dagger.

Boomark: I know all these things but i don't know him as an arch angel. That is what Hebrew said not.

Read Rev 4:4; 7:11; 14:3; 19:4 to see more about the 24 elders. Nothing in your quote suggest 24 elders will rule with Christ. In Rev 7:13 one of the elders explained a revelation to john.

Answer from my questions. They are very straight forward questions. Or is there anything you want to adjust in the questions 1-4 i asked?

TroGunn: The 24 elders are likely humans who will "reign with Christ" in heaven. - Rev 20: 4-6

Since begotten means to produce, originate or bring forth, Christ was begotten at his creation, obviously as a spirit being, being the sole direct creation of the Father. This firstborn Son was different from all other sons of God, because all the other sons were created or begotten by Yahweh through that firstborn Son. - Colossians 1:15-20.
Note that this does not make Christ the Creator, since he was carrying out his Father's instructions. His Father is the sole Creator or source of all things. Christ was the agent used for creation after being created himself.

Christ's elevation, after his successful mission as a human relates to the titles he then received as prophesied in Isa 9:6. Though he was already only begotten Son by virtue of his being created first and also an archangel being a leader of angels, after his death as a human and resurection, God elevated him even further. Christ is indeed very mighty - only his Father Yahweh is mightier than him in all the universe.

holyvirgin: bless you sir! This bigot called serial?? is so dumb kai!
@op.... Stop d hate, instead ask that seun includes you protestants to the sexuality section that's where u guys belong, a plate where hate, debauchery, greed, hypocrisy and lies abound...

nne3870: SMH... exactly what the apostles were trying to do, gather christians together so that we will be one but surprisingly we have over 50,000 churches and more springing up daily. now same is about to happen here so that later many more people will give reasons why they need anoda section.
i am dissapointed...
op learn to tolerate even christ did...

CrazyMan: The whole issue is that most christians embrace religion instead of christ.

The numerous denominations we're having in the church today is what's killing christianity.

I would suggest that we run away from religion and embrace christ. Religion kills because its crafted on lies and deception.

But Jesus is the way the truth and the light...no man comes to the father, except by him.

Jerry2i: Prayin b4 meal does nt min dat u r scared of food being poisoned,bt u've 2 pray n tnk God 4 giving u meal 4 dat day

Acidosis: In my house? NO.
In your house? YES.

alexleo: Was that the reason you left your former church?

seriallink: The bolded makes me wonder if the Church being discussed is a cult or something?? Smh!!!

Is the question not supposed to be 'do you believe in God Almighty and the sacrifice of His son for your salvation?'. Why must it be about believing in a Church for salvation? What if the Church leaders erred? He should just follow in their footsteps like sheeple without asking questions?

Salvation is an individual thing and it comes only through believing in God and the sacrifice of His son for our sins and living the Christ-like life! Shikena!!!

Enigma: You are making a mistake; what is more you are ignoring what is in the Bible.

According to the Bible, the one true Church is not a building; even more importantly it is not an organisation! Therefore, the one true Church is not especially concerned with different organisations who are between them teaching different doctrines ---- like the Roman Catholic Church, Pentecostal Church etc etc etc

The one true Church of Christ is simply a body of people; a body of people who have accepted and are
trusting in Christ. They may be individual e.g. like their brother of old the Ethiopean eunuch, they may be
a small group that meets in a house e.g. the Church that met in the house of Priscilla and Aquilla or in the
house of Philemon; they may meet in a bigger group as with a dedicated church building.

When they meet in a bigger group especially, it is
possible that false people and even wolves may be among them; yet Jesus still knows His sheep.

Where we get information about recognising the one
true Church is --- from the Bible. We are not concerned with an organisation that deceives itself with bulls etc
and says it is the "only true Church". The Bible quite easily shows that the organisation is lying, in fact it is
talking --- bull.



Here, you are showing your colours and that of the Roman Catholic Church. What you call a joke is my statement that the true Church is even found where two

or three are gathered in Jesus'name. Well, that means you are calling Jesus Christ a "joker" because He is the One who said it.