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chukwudi44: Heb 1:14

What are the angels then? There are spirits who serve God and are sent by him to help those who are to receive salvation.

Shee una don see the biblical description of angels.To call Jesus an angel is amongst the biggest insult yet to him.Not even the 4th century arians brought him so low.

( Michael is discribed as the Captain of the Angels, Rev 12:7. He is one who stands in times of conflict for the children of Israel" Daniel 12:1). We know also that(Jesus was sent only to Israel: Matthew 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

Joagbaje: You know when a poster start acting foolish , I stop responding . You font have to calle names to discuss truth. Why do you exalt your personal opinion above others. You may be right or wrong . You should give room for such . A discussion forum is not warfare. The bible my stand and if you have don't meaningful thing to say. Get to the scriptures which is out authority . When you guys get in the flesh like this , I simply walk away .

Pastor Kun: Bros so what happens if the church leadership is rotten and corrupt as in the case of cec? Should brethen just leave them to continue polluting the body of christ?

Zenas212: I get vry upset wen sme pple refer to d first day(sunday) as d sabbath. The days of d week has neva changed since creation; what man did was just giving them names. The word "sabath" is exclusive to the 7th day(saturday) of the week. Those of you referin to sunday as the sabbath will surely face the wrath of God when He comes. Dnt let the roman catholics deceive you. They have attempted to change the laws and times which was stated in the book of revelation but they are going to fail because God reigns supreme. Open your eyes, fellaz!

General Garicks: Nawa 4 you. Once you arent married its fornication. So you wan do homework dis church morning

victord1st: the problem with this thread is that most peeps including the OP are never christain so its pointless making arguements.and 4 d christians in d houz pls read Exo.19 v10-18 only then will u conclude whether to abstain b4 service or nor.i leave u to judge.

ipromise: The Bible said "remember the sabbath and to keep ïŧ holy.", but my stand on it is different as long as you took your bath. However, my friend's opinion differs from mine. So house, I would like some enlightenment on this. Your opinions?

pastormustwacc: ^^Now, that is really interesting. I am trying my best to be as objective as possible on this thread. I am not taking any side (yet).

pastormustwacc: One thing i can conclude so far is that, Angel Michael & Jesus seem to play similar roles. 2 captains?

plappville: This is a good thread. I have been questioning myself on this two figures, hopefully this thread is to make some clearifications. I believe only the scripture can give us the answer. The bible needs to be exploit on this issue before running into conclusion. @ijewkid gave us (Daniel) to take a look at. I hope to do that because i would't want to agree to an unbiblical truth. I prefare to Let Scripture explain Scripture. All thesame, i must say Good work so far to all those that have contributed already. And @OP, wonderful thread.

Now Let me call on bros....Frosbel to tell us where the scripture denies Jesus pre-existance first before further comment.

trolling: All angels are subject to Yahshua and Michael is not the same as Yahshua

obadiah777: THE WOMAN IS A COMPOUND NAME THAT ENCOMPASSES A TRIBE OF PEOPLE. ITS A GENERAL TERM USED FOR A GROUP. HOWEVER THE MAN-CHILD IS JUST ONE SPECIFIC SINGLE PERSON. NICE TRY THOUGH

obadiah777: ONLY THE 144,000 OUT OF THE TRIBE OF ISRAEL HAVE SUPERNATURAL PROTECTION. THE REST ARE GETTING JACKED UP DAILY BY ALL KINDS OF TRIBULATION AND AFFLICTION AS WE SPEAK

obadiah777: BRAH I JUST GAVE YOU PRECEPTS TELLING YOU THAT THE WOMAN IS ISRAEL AND THE MAN-CHILD IS CHRIST.
WHERE DO YOU COME UP WITH THIS OVERCOMERS AND CHURCH STUFF ? THIS IS HERESY

obadiah777: the israel in that chapter is time specific. it is refering to the period of the abomination of desolation around 70 AD. at that point in time the only israelites were the lineage israel so it is refering ONLY to the descendants of Jacob.

however when you get to REV chapter 14 onwards, then the gentiles who made it will be added to the house of israel and they will be the HOUSE OF ISRAEL. the gentiles get harvested and added to the fold in chpt 14. later fruits.

helpee: @frosbel. U are one hell of a disillussioned guy. I studied your different posts from trinity to pastors to tithes and I discovered that you were probably once a xtian and now confused and instead of u to admit it, u come to nairaland to justify your lost glory with God. While the isrealis may not be completely saints they are at least more civil that hamas whose purpose is to wipe out the state of isreal. Forget the person with superior power. The palestinians are hiding under the status of underdogs to fire missiles and u kept ur dirty mouth shut. Now the isrealis killed a military man, that heads the military unit of an organisation that fired 700 rockets in2 isreal and are here saying the hamas could be our brothers and sisters...the same way BOKO haram is also our brothers. So, the isrealis would have been nice to keep quiet while their enemies acquire enough missiles to send them to extintion the way hitler tried to do while bigots like you keep telling us palestinians are the saints. U said the article demonise palestinians but ur own response almost painted the terrorist as saints and the zionist as demons so u are no better as an hypocrites. I stopped responding to ur confused post a long time ago but ur confusion keeps eating deep in2 ur miserable xtian life. U can't even name ur church that associate with yet u criticise every church and every other religion. Don't tell me that God is not interested in ur congregation otherwise he wouldn't have sent messages to different churches in revelation and he called them by their names and descibed their xteristics and told them their faults. I don't support violence but their will always be violence as long as a group of people don't believe that isreal should exist and if u are supporting such people then u are anti God and at best a non xtian

Joagbaje: Stop insulting the church of christ. Pastors are the one perfecting the saints. It's carnal men that sees ministry as money making venture. Pastoring is sacrifice. You're not seeing the fasting and prayer and intercession of a pastor for his congregation. All you see is money. Yet you sell this wrong signal of the church to the world as a christian brother. It's a sin. Just because of the wrong foundation in your understanding of opening scripture . It's shameful seeing Christians instead of preaching to sinner spend their time and resources to attack christ body.

seriallink: Wrong Bros!

I refuse to agree with you @ the bolded! We have the right to correct any Christian who is going astray and also misleading others.

Scripture says:


1 Corinthians 5:12

New Living Translation (©2007)

It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning.

teeo: For ur mind ba. Sinners are out there to be evangelized too. And you keep looking for ways to discredit the work of God. No man should be the Judge of the body of Christ.

Luke6:37 “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn
not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and
you will be forgiven;

James 4:11-12 Do not speak evil against one another, brothers.
The one who speaks against a brother or judges
his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges
the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer
of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver
and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

hercules07: Take a bow, you have spoken well.

pastormustwacc: Your friend needs to forgive her mother, without forgiveness, she will be in trouble spiritually. She must close every door in her life to spiritual/satanic attacks and must not allow unforgiveness to cause problems for her. Unforgiveness is unchristianly, and yes, i realize how bad she must feel.

At a time in my life, i turned my back to my parents after uncovering some secrets, but i had to learn to forgive them and move on with my life. Ever since then, i have been experiencing more spiritual break-throughs, and i am much more stronger spiritually after that. Your friend must follow the same path.

Image123: do you even realize that you're insulting me?

Ihedinobi: @i.chuka, I agree with you in pretty much everything. God has always been an exceptional teacher. He uses signs and symbols we can understand and relate to teach us heavenly (that is, hidden) realities. Eve was indeed a type of the Church as was ethnic Israel. In each of them, God unveiled to a limited degree what His Church is. This is very like all the sin offerings that were made which all pointed to Christ as their antitype.

Also the man-child is truly a company of overcomers, but they're not the only overcomers. 1 John, at least, declares very clearly that just being a believer makes any given person an overcomer already. Every Christian, hence, is an overcomer. But this is mostly as a potential. Those who turn actualize the fullness of that potential are those that make up the man-child company.

With respect to the Church's purpose, it is to come fully and actually into all that Christ means, not quite to destroy the works of the devil all over again. The Church was left behind to, if you like, study Christ. She is the actual body of Christ. She is Christ's instrument of operation, she is to the Lord what our arms and legs and torso and other parts of our body are to our brain. As such, she must learn to synchronize with Him and draw upon His limitless resources to accomplish His Great and Eternal Purposes (which, naturally, are the same as hers). This lesson is one she can only learn in the face of adversity though, same as one can only build strong muscles by exerting them against resistance. As resistance is gradually increased, so is strength to match it. Therefore Satan is the resistance employed by the Lord to perfect His Church.

The fact is that the Church has never forgotten or lost her Purpose for being here. From generation to generation, the Lord has always had that few that would settle for nothing less than His fullness. As soon as their number is completed, He will catch them up to His Throne so that He can focus on the lackadaisical ones whom, as He says, He will "appoint a place with the hypocrites" or "cast out into the outer darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth" until He has made them ready to join their brethren. Whatever may be thought, whatever may be seen, the Church has never failed nor ever will.

chukwudi44: So na which one we go accept naa.Eve,isreal,church!!! Differant revelation from the same 'spirit'

The Church came out of Christ,just as Eve is made from the rib of Adam.and the overcomers came out of the Church. they(the overcomers) are still part of the Church,we can still call them the Church. because there victory brings glory to the whole Church.
Moreover,God used the nation of Israel as a litmus test/geniue pig test(PLEASE NO DISRESPECT TO THE NATION OF ISRAEL OO!!) inorder to bring His full purpose to past.the TEST was done on the Israeli,before its been applied to the rest of the world.so the nation of Israel are just a fragment.the Church is.

pastormustwacc: ^^^Of course, i have been hovering over this board for awhile now not posting anything but observing carefully, i use different connections for better efficiency.
Hope you have not been missing me?

alexleo: [b][/b]

yeah its my sincere advise to them because what they are currently practicing now is from the pit of hell. worshiping any image is satanic. praying through Mary is satanic. The message of purgatory and praying for the dead to be forgiven and taken to heaven is satanic. They need the message of salvation. They need the sound word of God and not the rubbish they are practicing now. The charismatic is a group in catholic that realised the junk they are practicing and decided to do away with them and started preaching the sound word of salvation thats why i said they should join the group since its also a catholic group. I didnt mean that the group is the only place where sound word for making heaven is preached. My church is preaching the sound word and any day they stop i ll leave them. I dont need cheap word. I want the hard truth of God's word.

Ubenedictus: what am i persisting on? U claimed that d catholic church has Jesus with long hair and u said that isnt d real Jesus. D burden of proof rests on you to show me how d real Jesus looked liked.