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Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 5:20pm On Oct 08, 2012
JeSoul: Plappville my sister (how body now? smiley)

@topic, interesting. I'm going to agree with Joagbaje's take on this - at least mostly.

The pastor was wrong for indirectly 'calling you out' with an entire sermon. He should've come to you in private to discuss any issues/reservations he may have had. Also the pastor's wife should've kept what was discussed in confidence - or at the very least if she told her husband, she shouldn't have revealed the identity of the person.

That said, sister Plappville, there are certain times when its best to be diplomatic and refrain from voicing what you may truly think/believe for the sake of harmony among the brethren.

Romans 14: The Danger of Criticism

1Accept other believers who are weak in faith, and don’t argue with them about what they think is right or wrong. 2For instance, one person believes it’s all right to eat anything. But another believer with a sensitive conscience will eat only vegetables. 3Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don’t. And those who don’t eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them. 4Who are you to condemn someone else’s servants? Their own master will judge whether they stand or fall. And with the Lord’s help, they will stand and receive his approval.

5In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable. 6Those who worship the Lord on a special day do it to honor him. Those who eat any kind of food do so to honor the Lord, since they give thanks to God before eating. And those who refuse to eat certain foods also want to please the Lord and give thanks to God. 7For we don’t live for ourselves or die for ourselves. 8If we live, it’s to honor the Lord. And if we die, it’s to honor the Lord. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9Christ died and rose again for this very purpose—to be Lord both of the living and of the dead.

10So why do you condemn another believer? Why do you look down on another believer? Remember, we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. 11For the Scriptures say,

“‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord,

‘every knee will bend to me,

and every tongue will confess and give praise to God.b’”

12Yes, each of us will give a personal account to God. 13So let’s stop condemning each other. Decide instead to live in such a way that you will not cause another believer to stumble and fall.

14I know and am convinced on the authority of the Lord Jesus that no food, in and of itself, is wrong to eat. But if someone believes it is wrong, then for that person it is wrong. 15And if another believer is distressed by what you eat, you are not acting in love if you eat it. Don’t let your eating ruin someone for whom Christ died. 16Then you will not be criticized for doing something you believe is good. 17 For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of what we eat or drink, but of living a life of goodness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18If you serve Christ with this attitude, you will please God, and others will approve of you, too. 19So then, let us aim for harmony in the church and try to build each other up.

20Don’t tear apart the work of God over what you eat. Remember, all foods are acceptable, but it is wrong to eat something if it makes another person stumble. 21It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything else if it might cause another believer to stumble. 22 You may believe there’s nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between yourself and God. Blessed are those who don’t feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right. 23But if you have doubts about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your convictions. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning.


From the above chapter, we learn that it is perfectly okay for 2 christians to disagree and yet both of them can be right about their beliefs. Your voicing your opinion in the midst of that group may have come across as "looking down on" or "condemning" and the scriptures tell us in the bolded part above to "keep your beliefs between yourself & God" for the sake of others & harmony & peace in the church.

Notice that this is NOT about whether you are right or wrong about the issue but rather aiming for peace & respect for fellow believers who may choose to believe something different from you. Cheers girl smiley.
ITs all ok, i believe this is a lesson to learn, Its wrong to pretend thats the problem. Actually, i was pushed to speak out them.
I never had any intention of proving better or more knowledged than anyone. Its all a lesson like i said. Thanks and i appreciate.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 5:11pm On Oct 08, 2012
[quote author=uj_sizzle]if u had any comprehension at all you'll know i was referring to Christ's birth.[/quote]And you ended it up with..So I will keep celebrating my christmas why not the other way round?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by plappville(f): 5:03pm On Oct 08, 2012
Goshen360: And the attack against the deity of Christ continues huh

Why don't you start from the verse first verse of John the Apostle huh
Why are you taking it as an attack? This man is doing a good work for God.
John 1 is telling you that Christ is the "word" of God, He revealed God to us when He came to earth.
And the word was God, God wouldn't be revealed if not for Christ. Its not telling you that God came to earth to die for you, for God cannot die.

Besides, you cannot use only one varse of the bible to balance ur claim.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus, A Real Human Being by plappville(f): 4:58pm On Oct 08, 2012
italo: John 1:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
Where is the (Holy spirit) in this verse? why is He omitted here.



Why did Jesus cry out, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken Me?"
Have you asked urself why Jesus said this? as a 2rd of the trinity He could not forsake Himself, or do you think He forsook himself? why didnt He call on the (Holy spirit)?

Luke 10:22(NIV)
22 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”


When Christ came, He revealed the Father, "as in John 1) It shows that ancient Israel never knew the Father not the person, now tell me, why didn't Christ revealed or decleared the "Holy spirit"?

John 17:3(NIV)
3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.


If the Only true God is the trinity and Jesus Christ is mentioned, why was the "Holy spirit not mentioned"?

John 17:11 (NIV)
11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[a] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.


Again, there is no mention of the "Holy Spirit", try to examine verses 20-22 of John 17. The verse 11 explains that God in Christ are ONE, just as God's people are ONE through the "Holy spirit" The Holy spirit that makes Gods people to be one unified group (The Chruch). But Consider that, all individual human beings in the church are not ONE single being, The Father and Christ are ONE as the brethren are ONE vise/versa. God's people are all seperate beings, God and Christ are seperate beings, theses few verses easily disproved the trinity.

If the HOLY SPIRIT is the 3rd person of the Godhead, each time the Father is discussed, why is He overlooked?

God's word is clear and simple for those willing to study it honestly. Speaking of the last days, just before the return of Christ, Paul discribs how people will not seek the truth.

2 Timothy 4:3 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

I believe these last verses has made a decleration of what you claim to be called the "trinity" as unscriptural.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 3:51pm On Oct 08, 2012
[quote author=uj_sizzle]I'm not particularly interested in the origin of our christmas all I know is I am happier at this time of the year than I ever am. It's a celebration of Christ's birth, the begining of our redemption from sin. The show of God's love for us. The reason we can stand today and call ourselves sons of God. So I will keep celebrating my christmas. But then let us also remember the words in Romans 14:1-12. I can't post the content so if anyone can copy paste that will be good
.[/quote]You can enjoy it no one is against you for ur choice. It is wrong to force others to a non biblical doctrine.

So before the 3rd Century, Christian had not the reason to be called "sons of God" because they didn't celebrate this feast?
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 3:41pm On Oct 08, 2012
italo: It is you guys that say, anything NOT in the Bible shouldn't be believed or practised. So if your evidence is not from the Bible, why should we believe it?

Besides, the Bible contains evidence of so many pagan practices and we both know it. Is Christmas among them? Yes or No.

If yes, show me the book, chapter and verse.
As usual, always hiding from the truth, you are over fed with false doctrine, you want others to remain in the falsehood like you.

What are the mens traditions Jesus warns about? that are practiced by christians and pagans today yet are not scriptural?

Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.

Christmas, Christ birth:Winter Solstice or Yule, occurs about December 21. This is the time of death and rebirth of the Sun God. The days are shortest, the Sun at its lowest point. The Full Moon after Yule is considered the most powerful of the whole year. This ritual is a light festival, with as many candles as possible on or near the altar in welcome of the Sun Child.

Halloween, Dead Saint day:Samhain, pronounced sow-en and called Halloween today, is the ending of the Celtic year. The Celtic new year actually begins at sunset on October 31.

Easter: Spring Equinox or Ostara, around March 21, is when light and darkness are in balance but the light is growing stronger. Ostara was not originally a part of the Celtic year, and all of its associations were given to Beltaine until recent times. Because it was named for the Teutonic Goddess of Spring and New Life, Eostre, it is assumed that it was brought to prominence in the Celtic world by the Saxons.

Do you want more? we know how the Catholic has influenced these holidays on mankind for yrs ok.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 2:55pm On Oct 08, 2012
haibe: Hey girl i get ur point but we are not talking about decency or non sex provokin clothes here, we are talking about abomination to God.

Satan can also make homosexuality normal in the eyes of people even though the bible calls it an abomination to God and those pple will bring conclusions like you do, pple are already doing that in america, given reasons why nothing is wrong in homosexuality.
I understand you, in as much as trouser is not in the bible but as cultures changes it turns out to be.

I personally don't fancy trouser wearing, but during winter, its a must or else cry cry
God wouldn't want us to die of cold no? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 2:09pm On Oct 08, 2012
ijawkid: And why d hell are u yelling @ her and telling her to shut up??

Show me from the scriptures where Jesus himself celebrated his own birth day......

And why shouldn't xmas be wrong??

It has paganism written all over it.....

##The date:::pagan..
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##The customs and rites surronding the celebration of xmas::::pagan....
....

Every single thing about christmas has no dealing with the scriptures......

Instead of you to quietly show her from the scriptures(as a good bible student) that christmas is supported or not supported by the bible,you just tell told her to ""shut up""

Is that what Jesus would do??

Mr italo......lol...
He hates the truth.....i know him well grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 2:07pm On Oct 08, 2012
italo: Shut up woman, until you are asked for your opinion.

Now where is your biblical proof that all you said about Christmas is true. Show us where the Bible says that Christmas is a pagan practice.

If it is not in the Bible, where did you get it from and why do you believe it?
I will not shut up but speak up. I should be asking you this question, It is not in the bible, that is why it is pagan.

Jesus warns....Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"

Did Christ or his Apostles celebrated christmas? a CAPITAL "NON" It was introduced by the Catholic church.

Colossians 2:22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:59pm On Oct 08, 2012
None provoking clothes for women.....

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:55pm On Oct 08, 2012
Decency...

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:50pm On Oct 08, 2012
Sex provoking clothe.....

Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:47pm On Oct 08, 2012
haibe: Trouser does not have to be there before we know that it 'pertains to a man' and God says it is an abomination to him and it remains an abomination, this deut 22:5 is not just a law becos i know some will say its not meant 4 christians, God said it is an abomination to him and what is an abomination to God at that time is still an abomination today, God does not change.

What we wear does not matter? What an ignorant fellow, so God will love a female wearing sex provokin clothes? Nice one!

Its a pity all in the name of love, holy spirit, ur heart' we have allowed sin, not just sin, abominations to creep into our lives. Very soon people will start supporting homosexuality and masturbation all in the name of we are to obey new testament only, 'its about ur heart' but when it is time to justify dancing in church, they will quote old testament saying david danced. Hmm..they will not tell you the tradition of david was different Oº°˚˚°ºh but when it comes to deut 22:5, they will tell you their tradition was different from ours..lols, its so funny how people bend scriptures to suit themselves.
To the bold, where in the bible did Jesus or his apostles wear trouser? that made you say it "pertains to man"?

Second bolded, You are right, what we wear is important, i believe our personality counts on how we dress. Sex provoking cloths are used by prosti.tude likewise mini skirt.
A prosti.tude will not wear a suit trouser that will make her look decent, so will a decent woman not wear a sex provoking clothe be it trouser or skirt. The bible did not mention a particular name of cloth to be wear by women, If u ve one verse, please post it. The bible should be against a woman wearing a cloth designed for man. outside that, female trouser, i mean decent ones are not wrong to be worn.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:29pm On Oct 08, 2012
[quote author=Richy.]People preaching against trouser has never encountered winter for one day, if trouser is a sin then every white must surly go to hell. even the white female pastors.it is time people stop all this doctrine and face reality.[/quote]God bless you, that is my point, Nigerians will raise alarm on trouser because they are blessed with good weather, We must look into thing in general not only from Nigeria point of views.
How about those living in Russia, Norway, Finland etc...are thier women sinners because they wear what could protect them from death? I wonder how we interpret the bible.

Have u ever experience cool that u will feel like ur ears are cut off? think for others and thier culture not only Nigeria.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Sinful To Wear Trousers As A Christian Lady? by plappville(f): 1:22pm On Oct 08, 2012
Nigeria men are to use thier traditional wears "wrappers" not pant/trouser of other cultures.

Trouser is not meant for men alone, the West culture dresses with trouser both sex, but made in different shapes.

If God's spirit uses the Western women not minding thier traditional clothes, who are we to condemn them?

I believe in decency. Women in the West cannot do without trouser wearing expecially during "winter" The only Clothe that manage to covers the body is trouser.
You dear not wear skirt during this period, or else you die of cold.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 1:02pm On Oct 08, 2012
Christmas is a collection of traditions and practices taken from many cultures and nations. Not from the B...I....B....L....E

The date of Dec 25th comes from Rome and was a celebration of the Italic god, Saturn, and the rebirth of the sun god. This has been celebrated even before Christ birth,
Do not be ignorant. As ChristianS, we would want to worship the Lord in Spirit and in truth, discerning good from evil. Hence the origin of Christmas is paganism, i see it as evil holiday.

A period (24th - 25) where pagans all over the world soak themselves in alcohol, teenage are privillaged to fornicate etc. I do not indulge in this holiday.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 12:47pm On Oct 08, 2012
Its two different thing entirely!
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Divorce A Sin To God? by plappville(f): 12:30pm On Oct 08, 2012
italo: I am not the Bible, here's the Bible:

1 Timothy 2
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

I don't hate you and I don't think it's a must for you to follow Catholic doctrine. I am just holding you against your word. You always say Christians should do only what is in the Bible and never do what is not in, or even contradicts the Bible.

Look at what the Bible says and what you are doing. Are you obeying St. Paul or are you disobeying?

And if I'm missing the Bible's point, tell me what the Bible's point is.
Did you read my previews comments before you commented? go up and re read again, i did not opposed the Pastor or the church, i refused to participate in a non biblical doctrine.
Did the bible teaches that we must obey a doctrine be it non biblical? No where in the bible does it speaks of "CHRISMAS" so sorry i will only obey in the lord not outside Him.
Yes, i am not disobeying Paul, because i did not go against the bible, Christmas is not scriptural.

You keep following me in NL attacking me not to talk where men talk, whats the meaning of that? I know you still keep me in mind for some false doctrine of the Catholic church i posted years back. But that is your own case.

To ur last question, this image is for you, read your bible and stop depending on your Pope......

Christianity Etc › Re: The Tyranny Of The Trinity - Book Review by plappville(f): 12:14pm On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel: I do not advice you leave your church or even tell them about this Trinity for now.

Fellowship is important and 98% of all churches preach this doctrine, however the majority do it out of ignorance.

You should however teach your kids and friends the truth and pray for the church as a whole, but leaving fellowship is dangerous as you will end up in isolation , a place where the devil has drowned many souls.

Blessings.
Thank you.
Christianity Etc › Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by plappville(f): 12:07pm On Oct 08, 2012
Basic: In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. May peace be upon whosoever follows guidance.

I advise every reader of this piece – Christians especially – to read with a plain mind that is free of any prejudice or stereotypes. This missive is addressed mainly at Christians and adherents of other religions in this country as well as any Muslim who may help spread word of it.

It is quite saddening that Boko Haram has done, in the name of Islam, so much evil that the average non-Muslim now has a very ugly perception of the religion and its adherents.

Though the Nigerian media has sometimes gone overboard in their reports (for instance, news spread months ago that a Boko Haram instigated bomb blast occurred in Bauchi, only for the Police to state later that the heard explosion was that of a faulty transformer and not a bomb), this piece does not seek to defend the acts of Boko Haram (in fact, it strongly disapproves of their acts). So, please don't start forming opinions yet.

Read this piece to the end, as it hoped that it would help extinguish the fire of inter-religious animosity raging in our society today – by means of these clarifications:

Clarification #1

You Christians have known we Muslims for years, and you have lived with us for years as well. I’m sure the Muslims you first knew or grew up with never told you that Islam permits unjust killings – not even of non-Muslims. They won't, because they never believed such. If that were part of their belief, they would certainly have attempted killing you. So, their peaceful co-existence with you shows that they had nothing of such as their belief.

But suddenly came a strange group of "Muslims" who kill in the name of Islam. Yet, you conclude that these "vampires" are following the dictates of Islam. Which Islam? A new version of Islam?

So, it is either Boko Haram members are practising a strange Islam or are not practising Islam at all. But the truth remains that our religion has never and will never undergo any kind of metamorphosis. And whatever is not part of it from the outset will never be regarded as being part of it today!

Since unjust, unlawful killings were never part of Islam, they will never be part of Islam, and any individual or group that practices such – even in the name of Islam – will ‘never’ be regarded as Muslims or as fighting for Islam.


Clarification #2

I do see Christians quote Quranic verses inciting Muslims to fight the non-believers. And I have these to say:

Just as you hold that many verses in the Bible have underlying meanings that are beyond the literal implications, we Muslims also hold the same in regards to the Quran. The Quran contains many verses whose meanings are subject to interpretations other than the literal.

So, I advise every truth-seeking non-Muslim to refrain from quoting Quranic verses without deep understanding of the circumstances behind their revelation.

As for the wars fought by the early Muslims, various circumstances led to these, and going into a detailed discussion will be digressive and will make this piece lengthier.

However, know that the wars propagated by the Muslims of old had many strong reasons behind them. And looking at history, no civilisation or revolution came to be without some struggle.

Now the truth: in Nigeria of today, there are NO justifications whatsoever for any Muslim – individual or group – to kill non-Muslims unjustly. In fact, from what I've learned about this religion, NONE – yes, NONE – of the conditions that permit Muslims to fight (such as if they are facing aggression from non-Muslims, and if they are in an Islamic state) is present in the Nigeria of today. Therefore, anyone fighting in the name of Islam is either doing that out of misindoctrination, crass ignorance, or for ulterior reasons.

Once again, Nigeria is not an Islamic state, and no Muslim – except for the misindoctrinated, ignorant, or hypocritical – is permitted to fight in the name of religion.

Clarification #3

Any Muslim individual or group that claims to be fighting for Islam by way of unjust, unwarranted killings is not following the dictates of ‘the’ Islam - and that is even if such were Muslims in the first place.

In a Quranic verse, which, interestingly, those Christians who have never stopped dissecting the Quran never quote, Allah says:

"Allah never forbids you from dealing justly and kindly with those who do not fight you based on your religion and who do not drive you out of your homes. Verily Allah loves those who deal with others with equity" – Quran 60 verse 8.

This verse drives home the fact that Muslims living amidst non-Muslims (in a non-Islamic state) should never fight them except in self-defence.

In another verse, Allah describes the sanctity life in these words:

"Because of that, we ordained for the Children of Israel that anyone who spreads mischief in the land by killing another person unjustly, and not out of retaliation, it would be as if he had killed all of mankind. And if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind" – Quran 5 verse 32.

So, Islam honours life and is totally against taking it unjustly.

Clarification #4

It would be illogical for any Muslim, after having observed some wrongdoing by a Christian or group of Christians, to conclude that Christianity preaches that wrong act or that all Christians approve of it.

Similarly, it contradicts logic for any Christian, after having observed some wrongdoing by some individuals or groups who claim to be Muslims, to conclude that Islam preaches that wrong act or that all Muslims approve of it.

Get it clear: We Muslims – who really understand the true message of Islam – are totally against the terrorist acts of these bloodsucking "Muslim" groups. In fact, we doubt their being Muslims in the first place. And if they were, either they lost touch of the pristine Islam by getting themselves misindoctrinated, or they are not sincere in their cause (i.e. they have ulterior motives).


Clarification #5

While it is natural for the adherents of any religion to feel enraged when the supreme deity, as held by that religion, is insulted, it is irrational for the adherents to go beyond bounds in their quest for justice – especially when this will involve greater evils like shedding the blood of the innocent.

However, Christians should stop spewing insults at Allah, His Messenger, and at Muslims as a whole. In the Qur'an, Allah has clearly forbidden Muslims from insulting non-Muslims and their religion (Quran 6 verse 108). So, Muslims too should refrain from doing this.

Also, it is far from ideal that a Muslim, in "retaliation" of blasphemy, goes wild, killing innocent lives and destroying property.


Final note

We Muslims are disheartened by the activities of these radicals, and on behalf of every Muslim in this country with a sound, unadulterated Islamic ideology, I state that we are proud of our religion, and we totally and openly disapprove of the acts of BH and their sponsors.

We pray that Allah vindicates His religion by exposing, humiliating, and destroying any individual or group perpetrating evil in the name of Islam.

We also pray that Allah restores peace and security in this country, and make it a haven of tranquility for all – Muslims, Christians, Pagans, and Atheists.

Finally, I advise every person who wishes to study Islam sincerely to look only into authentic sources and try to avoid the press, ignorant and biased non-Muslims, and other sources of baseless gainsay.

Spread word of this piece. Feel free to share with others through any available media. Hopefully, it will help reduce the inter-religious animosity that is thickening in Nigeria today.
[size=14pt](John 16:1-4) 1“All this I have told you so that you will not go astray. 2They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. 3They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. 4I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you. I did not tell you this at first because I was with you.[/size]

Its not only in Nigeria, Its a worldwide killing, you cannot stop it. what does this verse say? Muslims believe they kill for ALLAH abi?
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Divorce A Sin To God? by plappville(f): 10:32am On Oct 08, 2012
italo: @ Plappville, keep quiet when men are talking. Is that not what your Bible tells you?

@ OP, "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder." It was Jesus who said, not me.
Are you now the bible? what is your hate in me , Oh i see, i must agree with the Catholic and her pagan doctrine, then i can talk in Nairaland.

You are missing the bible's point man, learn to grow jare, and let me be !!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:09am On Oct 08, 2012
frosbel: The Pastor should know better as a mature believer, if a sister refuses to celebrate what we know is a PAGAN holiday he should be sensitive enough to accommodate her needs.
I wonder why anyone should be forced to partake in a non scriptural doctrine!
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:06am On Oct 08, 2012
Zikkyy: What makes Christmas a pagan holiday? I think what is important is the intentions of the man celebrating and not the day of the celebration. It's a pagan holiday only if you want it to be one.
You cannot change its origin bro....!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:05am On Oct 08, 2012
italo: @ Plappville, since you are so bent on doing only the things found in the Bible and rejecting anything not found in the Bible, you should stop confronting men on nairaland on doctrinal matters. Nairaland is public. You should rather go quietly and ask you husband in the house.
Did i confront you? are you hurt in anyway that i rejected the Catholic paganism holiday? My husband a christian, so He wouldn't help in matters like this.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:01am On Oct 08, 2012
Image123: @op, your pastor did the right thing, and Jo is right. like i quoted on your sabbath thread, one man esteems a day than the other. It's not a big issue or matter of salvation or acceptance before God. mesef don't observe Christmas or Sabbath, but i have no qualms with any who does. infact, Christmas rice and card dey waste for house. i recall teaching some kids some lovely christmas carols recently too.
Did i said i have probs with them celebrating Christmas? I told them i would not be part of thier organisation period, why should it be by force, as in the Pastors sermon?

What will you tell the kids Christmas signifies? and can you prove that to them with the scripture?
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:58am On Oct 08, 2012
Rich4god: Plz, do you celebrate your birthday... Plz be sincere.
I no longer, since i became a believer. Its of no importance. The bible gave 3 occasions of birthday events and what it turns out to be was not pleasant.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Don’t Nigerian Pastors Preach Contentment? *picture* by plappville(f): 8:07pm On Oct 07, 2012
Baba Alaji: @ OP, try Islam.
What? !!! The first religion to be distroyed by God? a doctrine that totally rejected Christ shocked shocked shocked

You no try at all!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Detains WOMAN In A Room Whilelooking For CONDOMS by plappville(f): 7:56pm On Oct 07, 2012
[quote author=Law-confessor]Hmmmmmmmm....

FAKE PASTORS N PROPHECTS. Nawa ooo.


Mechanics no gree us knw mad ppl again o.[/quote]grin grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 7:51pm On Oct 07, 2012
musKeeto: I pity your church members. Criticism should be done in secrecy not public? Who da 4k r u?

If Paul could blast Peter in public, isn't that an example to follow?

Shouldn't the pastor be open to criticism? Shouldn't a pastor be mature enough to handle so called hotheads?
He should bro....
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 6:44pm On Oct 07, 2012
Joagbaje: I get your point. I was just trying to analyse the pastors response. He didnt answer the question you put across. He addressed an attitude. The open challenge was the attitude he was correcting. He didnt mention either you were right or wrong because that wasnt the issue. He was looking at an attitude. But i believe if you had asked him privately , or during a question and answer session .as in some churches it would have been answered properly
We do not have this, i think its a good method, it will permits people to ask questions and get a direct answer on things they are not clear with instead of swallowing all. and remain in thesame position huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Offerings by plappville(f): 6:37pm On Oct 07, 2012
Joagbaje: Offerings are based on spiritual principles. There were different kinds of givings in the bible. such as giving to God, giving to the poor, giving to parents , giving to the prophet, giving for church projects etc. Some of the offerings you mentioned sounds strange. It would have been good for you to ask your sources to explain it.
Please can i have the verse for the bold? thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: Church Offerings by plappville(f): 6:36pm On Oct 07, 2012
Well, Christians are taught to let the Spirit guide their walk in Christ, yet they are given rules to guide them when it comes to their giving.
Goodness and kindness are identifying traits of the fruit of the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-23 makes it clear that the fruit of the Spirit cannot be regulated because against such there is no law.
Offering is spiritual as said by @Joagbaje.

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