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Christianity Etc › Jesus And Mary Picture/photo Are They From The Bible? by plappville(op): 11:56am On Oct 12, 2012
How did the church came about having Jesus and Mary's image/photo, was it from the bible? I am just wondering huh are the appearances given to him by various artists exact? If no why then should this be accepted/used by Christians?
Your views please, Thanks.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 11:41am On Oct 12, 2012
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italo: Hurray! The dunce is back!
I have not seen you shut up the other catholic female in this thread since ooo grin grin grin

Dem dey ur side abi? Birds of thesame fea...... grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 11:39am On Oct 12, 2012
Zikkyy: @plappville, consider yourself lucky! i decided to tone down my response to your post after reading italo's post above smiley



Okay na grin Don't go to the toilet. Just stay away from the toilet for one week and let see what happens grin
What are you talking about? what has toilet got to do with this? Do you mean going to toilet is breaking Gods law then all righteous figures fall in ur trap.

And what do u mean LUCKY? so Pope@ITALO has made sense to you? na waooo!
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Thoughts On Jehovah Witnesses by plappville(f): 11:13am On Oct 12, 2012
@thread, keep praying over it, is only God that can direct you. No church seem to be practicing the perfect doctrine of Christ.
You can only depend on ur bible for the complete truth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Your Thoughts On Jehovah Witnesses by plappville(f): 11:08am On Oct 12, 2012
Jerry2i: Jesus has no lord n god ova him,4 he said dat 'I n My Father r 1'
if this mean One person then why the i and my Father ? simple reasoning is needed dear!

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Through the Help of the Holy Spirit, Chritians are one In Christ. Christ and His Father are one in decision and works. when God decides, Christ carries it out.

Two person cannot be ONE.


Jesus have a God over Him.

Stop clinging to me; for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.' (John 20: 17).

The God of Jesus is our God according to the bible.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:07am On Oct 12, 2012
Christ instructed us to Remeber his death not His birth.

1 Corinthians 11:23-26 (NIV)
23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.


[size=18pt]should we replace this with paganism xmas?[/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:55am On Oct 12, 2012
HumbledbYGrace: would there be death if birth was never there?
We are not saying His birth is not important, Jesus came because of his "Death" to die for our sin, If He had not died, you would not be saved.

See several verses. 1 Peter 3:18, (Romans 4:25 He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.)
It is only in the "death" of Christ you became saved. He was born like every other prophets, but His "death" is not like every other prophets death.

Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us

2 Corinthians 5:15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:35am On Oct 12, 2012
Zikkyy: You've not answered my question, but am going to let it go in the interest of peace smiley



grin are you serious? you mean you go to the toilet for God's glory abi? grin this man don't make me say things i should not be saying this morning angry
Dont sound RIDICULOUS !! No man commanded toilet as a binding, just Like Xmas and other Paganism feast.
U can keep xmas, the choice is up to you, ignoring all the warnings of Christ and adopting ur own, is a choice.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:19am On Oct 12, 2012
ijawkid: It was thÉ sacrificial death of Jesus that brought hope to Jews and to gentiles and all,not his birth.......Jesus had always lived in the heavens......his death and not his birth is what was utmost.....

Always remember the Jews::::

The day of ones death,is better than the day of ones being born.........

So christmas has no relevance in christianity.....

Christmas and halloween are brothers....

All stem from one source.....paganism....
This is just the truth, the bible made it clear to us. You finish work here grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op):
HumbledbYGrace: Thread derailed lol!

Ok helo Plapville!missed u so much anyway

I believe u were right by voicing ur opinions but its not that we celebrate christmas because of hueva hu invented the day no.I celebrate christmas because 1.We read in Luke 2:8-20 how the birth of the Lord Jesus was first announced to humanity. The birth of a king's son is generally made an occasion of public reveling and rejoicing. The announcement of the birth of the Prince of Peace was made privately, at midnight, and without anything of worldly pomp and ostentation.

Let us mark who they were to whom the message first came that Christ was born. They were "shepherds abiding in the field near Bethlehem, keeping watch over their flocks by night." To shepherds - not to priests and rulers - to shepherds - not to Scribes and Pharisees, an angel appeared, tproclaiming, "unto you is born this day a Savior, who is Christ the Lord."

The saying of James should come into our mind as we read these words: "Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he tpromised those who love him?" (James 2:5). The lack of money precludes no one from spiritual privileges. The things of God's kingdom are often hidden from the great and noble and revealed to the poor. The busy labor of the hands need not prevent someone from being favored with special visit from God. Moses was keeping sheep, Gideon was threshing wheat, Elisha was ploughing, when they were each honored by direct calls and revelations from God. Let us resist the suggestion of Satan that religion is not for the working man. The weak of the world are often called before the mighty. The last are often first, and the first last.

2.His birth brought hope for the Jentiles right?u and me.We were not favoured by God remember?

So Jesus birth really means a lot to me that's I celebrate it,it may have been created by someone whom had different believes but that's wr his salvation was.
If I may ask @ OP y don't u celebrate christmas?bible quotes pls
2.His birth brought hope for the Jentiles right?u and me.We were not favoured by God remember?
Yet He says: Matthew 15:24 Then Jesus said to the woman, "I was sent only to help God's lost sheep--the people of Israel." Dont u think His birth didn't guaranteed you salvation, because If He had refused Yahweh's order not to have died, Will His birth be of importance to you as a gentile?

Ehpesians 2:14 For Christ himself has brought peace to us. He united Jews and Gentiles into one people when, in his own body on the cross, he broke down the wall of hostility that separated us

It is Christ death that Guaranteed you salvation, you were not recongnised at all with His birth as the above verse stated. @Ijewkid had already told you this.

So Jesus birth really means a lot to me that's I celebrate it,it may have been created by someone whom had different believes but that's wr his salvation was
Is it how you want it or how God wants it? Christianity would be too easy if its all about How we want it. The pagan do things how they want it, but Christian do things in following Gods instruction/command, hence God did not command Us to celebrate Christ birthday, why should we forge this and even forge a date to suit it.
Well, this can mean alot to you, you are free to choose.

If I may ask @ OP y don't u celebrate christmas?bible quotes pls
Well my dear i don't celebrate a Pagan feast (christmas). because Christ warns against it. If you know the origin of Christmas you will agree with this verse.

Matthew 15:9 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"

Colossians 2:22 These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings



Conclusion: Christmas is all idle, empty, feltish and without any profit, because Its the commandments from men. God did not decleared it in His word.
So know that Commandment of Men is a thing that turns men away from the Truth u can see (Titus 1:14), and if not repented of,
it will prevent believers from Gods kingdom By their disobedience to the Truth. Trace Xmas origin properly Sister God bless.
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 7:51pm On Oct 11, 2012
Na waoooh, tori don mixed hahaha, from christmas to easter, haloween etc grin grin grin I dey go bed, tomorrow i will pick up hahaha.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Married Folk See A Pastor For Every Little Disagreement? by plappville(f): 7:41pm On Oct 11, 2012
jobaskia: I think a married man will hardly resort to that in any cirumstances that ensued. It is a woman that will see something is wrong with the way their mother-in law does things or say whenever she come visiting. You can hardly see men being unnecessarily talking about this and that.

If a woman is reserved in her own way ,she won't have problems there and there. talk talk talk is their flagship. For a woman to keep the home front healthy and balanced. She should avoid unnecessary mingling and dining.
I agree with you, that is a good tool but most women are ignorant. Couple can have dispute, that doesn't mean the end. Wisdom must be applied in marriage or else undecided

Pastors are not different, they have thier own problems too. I believe Husband are wife should live like tongue and teeth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 10:09pm On Oct 10, 2012
[size=18pt]waoooh @italo sabi lie ooo, see how he dey hid from answering a simple question because it will expose him!! God gave instructions to Israel, but that does not applies to you Catholic. You have been over fed. You will not abtain the truth because you are proud and stuborn.[/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: An Open Letter To Nigerian Christians by plappville(f): 3:50pm On Oct 10, 2012
Discordia: maybe you never heard the quran was revealed from time to time eh? Different verses revealed at different places and time for different conditions , get it ? So nothing contradict anything
Waoooh, is that all you can say to refute those contradictions? grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 3:37pm On Oct 10, 2012
ijawkid: When the isrealites offered up burnt offerings to Yahweh it was a straight instruction from Yahweh to them...

All the festivals and commemorations the isrealites did were lucid commands from Yahweh himself....

Sabbath
Festival of unfermented cakes
Passover celebration
Festival of pentecost...
Etc...

All were written down commands for the isrealites....

Don't u dare compare yourself with the Jews....the Jews never snatched any pagan holiday to please Yahweh
with it...ofcus u know what happened whenever they did that..Yahwehs anger blazes on them....
Yahweh warned them not to near the baal worshippers
talk less of snatching a date dedicated to baal,to worship Yahweh..

Now I want u to tell me how d christmas u do came about........is it biblical??is it a command from Jesus??
or what??did the apostles do it??did 1st century christians ever celebrate xmas??

And I will tell you a million times that Jesus has no
connection with christmas......absolutely no connection.....its all pagan...
Nice work @Ijewkid, i believe that anyone who truelly seek the truth would have been done with all the above. They keep argueing without scriptural proof. @italo done rest her case grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 10:23am On Oct 10, 2012
Zikkyy: ..and by celebrating Christ, who do you think am following?



Did the scripture command that i should not celebrate anniversaries? I don't think so.



Am not saying "that Christians needed it [size=16pt]but God forgot to include it".[/size] It's not compulsory. am saying you don't consider it a sin simply because it's not recorded in the bible. Its a sin if the act is not in line with how God want us to live as Christians.

I believe you are African, so consider the African traditional marriage rite; do you think it's a sin for Christians to perform traditional marriage rites? and also kindly detail the procedure for Christians marriages as mandated by the bible. Hope you will respond.
To the bolded!! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

Zikkyy:..and by celebrating Christ, who do you think am following?
Can you show me where Jesus says that by celebrating His birthday is a sign of following Him?
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 10:14am On Oct 10, 2012
italo: Lol



Then why do you have images of yourself and your family in your phones and laptop.
My dear look clearly at Ex 20:4 and also Ex 20:5. Images/Photos aren't idols. But images/photo or statues that you bow to and serve are idols, as seen in those pictures i posted.
Catholics bow to and revere the RCC statues and images. Catholics serve them by having processions and lighting candles to them.

We know that the coin that Jesus would have most likely used would have had the face of emperor Tiberius on it, who did rule during the time of Jesus' ministry.
The Jews used this coin still, They didnt disobey God because the coin contains the image. They would have if they had worshiped, bowed or sarved it llike the Catholics do today.

I do not bow or worship pictures. The European coin/cents carries images as well, using it to buy is different from worshiping it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:41am On Oct 10, 2012
[size=30pt] Exodus 20:4 "You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea.[/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:39am On Oct 10, 2012
"The Assumption of Mary" The statue of Holy Mary carried around. This one na Paris "Notre dame e for happen. You wont believe the number of people this devilish act is misleading.

Every August 15 is the Holy Day of the celebration of the Assumption of Mary.
They claimed that After her "earthly life" she went to heaven to be reunited with Jesus Christ.

Do you even have the date of her death? where did the scripure told us She died? prove it @italo, when did the scripture told you that Mary died and you should celebrate her death each year?

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:22am On Oct 10, 2012
Laocoon Group in the Vatican Museum....

What will that woman and child do for you? Is the scripture not enough? Idolatry is the center doctrine of the Catholic.

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:14am On Oct 10, 2012
italo: And I don't bow to the images...I just use it to draw my heart and mind to the one who was depicted by the image and ultimately to God who is the one that takes the glory for that person's piety. E.g When you see me in front of St. Peter's statue, I could be talking to St. Peter himself who is in heaven and can hear me. I could be saying: "St. Peter, pray for me that just as you gain strength through the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, I also may become a tireless preacher and defender of the Gospel of our Lord. I could then go on to say other prayers to God himself directly and/or through other Saints. Ultimately, all my prayers are to God and any kneeling, standing or bowing is directly for God and/or the position of honour that God has put that Saint.

But an ijawt, sorry idiot, looking with hatred from afar or at pictures on nairaland, who doesn't know what is transpiring in my heart and cannot even hear my words will say: he's worshipping Mary.
Where did the bible instructed you to talk with dead saints images? Can you show me any verse where righteous MOG carried image like in this picture?

Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:11am On Oct 10, 2012
italo: Non-Catholic Christians worshipping a man
Acts 8:14-19(NIV)
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
Christianity Etc › Re: Proof That Catholics Worship Mary by plappville(f): 8:09am On Oct 10, 2012
italo: Stop worshipping Bible. E dey fall your hand.
No one dey worship bible, when you come out to be prayed for, some people take thier bible along with them. This does not means they worship it.
Someone created a thread few weeks back, that she lost her bible in the church when she left it on her sit to recieve prayers or so. I will find the topic and post if u care.

The laying of Hands is scriptural, Its a way of invoking the Holy spirit. Isaac blessed his son Jacob by laying on of hands (Genesis 27:27)

Acts 8:14-19(NIV)
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. 15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 17[b] Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.[/b]

18 When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money 19 and said, “Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”


[size=18pt]You have been overfed,!!![/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 11:05pm On Oct 09, 2012
truthislight: Roman 15:4
"for all the things that were "written aforetimes" were written for our instructions that through our endurance and through the comfort from the scriptures we might "hope""

^^^ the scriptures are never in error.

There are two birth days that are mentioned in the bible and the celebrate were devil woshipers and they both beheaded innocent people on this birth days.

And infact one of them beheaded a prophate of Yahweh in the person of John the baptist.

There is no mention of a birth day celebration of any faithful servant of Yahweh in the bible.
From Abraham to the last of the apostle.

Let alone Jesus christ himself.

Infact the birth date of christ is not mention in the bible, is this an error or an omission on God's part? No.

Because the things written aforetimes are written for our own instructions.

And what instructions do we GET the example of those who celebrate birth days and those who did not?

In whose foot step should we follow to be pleasing to God and emulate the servant of God of old?

Are we to emulate the example of the servant and woshipers of satan?

You be the judge.
Wonderful write up, They are ignoring the fact that the bible presented birthday events, but these events were for Pagans. And we learnt that The outcome of the parties resulted to killing. Why should the Scripture be silent on Christ birthday party. No righteous figure celebrated it. So what are we talking about? "ANOTHER PAGAN" practice. Saint Valentine is in few months to come, @Italo...where are you? grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Catholics & Protestants , Mother and Daughters by plappville(f): 10:37pm On Oct 09, 2012
italo: The question of "how can you" does not arise, because we created it. Simple.

I understand that you can't bring yourself to accept publicly that that Church which you hate so much is the same one that gave you the Bible which you hold so dear and true.

But perhaps you should ask your question, only with a different mindset.

Can a false and evil Church create a true and holy book?

If the Catholic Church is evil, why do I believe them when they say that the book of Mark is inspired scripture. Is it written anywhere in the Bible that the book of Mark was written by Mark? How do I know? - The Catholic Church told me so. Why do I believe? - Because it is the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

Ask yourself.
As usual, all Catholics will cliam they gave us the bible in order for them to defend thier "Sacred Traditions".
The Bible tells us to obey the Word of God, to not go beyond the "written Word", so that we might not make mistakes in what is true.

"Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other," (1 Cor. 4:6).

Did the Catholic truelly gave us the bible? God promises that He will presarved His words. If Catholics had presarved the bible, they would have made it surport thier doctrines. I will find some verses to disprove this ur regular claim. But know that the above verse is warning you.

And what about the OT that Christ used when He was on earth, Did the Catholic also gave it? because its part of the Bible!
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Is Now Operating From Nigeria by plappville(f): 9:48pm On Oct 09, 2012
Our Country cannot perish in our eyes, we must continue praying for Her. A must do.
Christianity Etc › Re: Frosbel Why Can't You Be Original In Your Posts? by plappville(f): 9:41pm On Oct 09, 2012
[quote author=xtrafly][/quote]Tell me, are you the right owner of the "OPINION" image you posted? what website did you copied it from?
Christianity Etc › Re: Frosbel Why Can't You Be Original In Your Posts? by plappville(f): 9:36pm On Oct 09, 2012
truthislight: Whats wrong with copying information from that site if it does not contradict the bible?

Have you not used the words of your pastor befor?

What if his church owns that site?

The bone should be if it is the truth or it is false.
*sigh*
Good question, nice one!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:29pm On Oct 09, 2012
Revelation 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

There is nothing stange in what we are seeing because the scriture fortold it.
What is strange is that many are ignorent of the several warning from the Bible!!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:21pm On Oct 09, 2012
Ancient Egyptian Sun god copied by Catholic...

On the on "top" is an image of the Catholic Monstrance and "undown" is an early picture of sun worship in Egypt. Look at the image of the sun in both pictures.

Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:14pm On Oct 09, 2012
@Rich4god:
Have i presented you enough proof or u still want to defend the undefendable? See link for more photos...

http://www.the-bible-antichrist.com/catholics-worship-mary-relics-idols.html
Christianity Etc › Re: Either You Unite With The Church Doctrine Or You Are Against The Bible...... by plappville(op): 9:10pm On Oct 09, 2012
[size=14pt]A baby je.sus doll being adored in a Catholic Church.

Catholic idols for sale (blck Jesus images)... He still warns...THOU SHALT NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE.[/size]

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