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Infant “baptism” should be seen as foreign to the bilble. Dis practice steps from the teaching of “original sin.” from Adam and Eve. The bible itself does not give a single example of any baby being baptized anywhere.
Original sin is the reason why Jesus had to come to earth, Simply becos we cannot eradicate original sin by ourselves.

Acts 13:24 Before the coming of Jesus, John preached repentance and baptism to all the people of Israel.

Mark 1:5 The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.

Children were not mentioned here, Of course they have no sense of what sin is all about, so how can they confess sin? What scripture does not reveal shouldn't be in anyway put in practice. In other words, becos the scripture does not say it, i cannot frame it up. (valid for everyone).

Jesus teaches that the kingdom of heaven belongs to little children…
He said in, (Matthew 19:14) "Allow the little children, and don't forbid them to come to me; for to such belongs the  Kingdom  of Heaven .".

(Matthew 18:3)( "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven."

Jesus said we must become converted, and then become like little children. He would not tell us to do this if children were truly seen as adults in Gods sight. There is something automatic about them, this must be very devine. And one needs to be converted  in order to be in the kingdom of God.

Jesus said: "UNLESS" He didn't use children as in coincident "NO", does it means children are not placed with the "original sin"? if they do not need to be converted then, this may be as a result of (Humility) Jesus defines the innocency of an infant heart, I believe this verse of the scripture teaches that children are "safe, not saved" (not a biblical phrase though). We need to take example as children.
We shouldn't struggle much for them in terms of salvation, that is, (Baptising them) God has plans for them.

Stop worrying for "children baptism" Thank God for the gospel of Christ that is the power of God to take away our sins.

Romans 5:19)19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

(1 Corinthians 15:22) 22:For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Adam's act brings death: In choosing to follow Adam’s path we die.
Jesus Christ’s act brings life: In choosing to follow Jesus’ path we live.
The choice is ours. Disobey by contradicting the bible or Obey by doing just according.

Mpetempe:
You are doomed as i can see.
Your lord devil give you joy?
In the presence of God there is fullness of joy and opposite of joy is sad.
Devil gives sadness never joy, do not be deceived.

Don't you know God made you never devil why have you deceived to do yourself harm? By summiting to devil. He deceives you by giving you material things, worldly things.

But he can never give you eternal life. The devil came to destroy, steal, and to kill but Christ jesus came to give life and in its fullness.

Accept Christ Jesus for the salvation of your soul.



He that has ear let him hear!
Jesus is lord.

kelz88:
OP, please tell them.   They would rather wait for manna to fall from heaven.


‎"Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day; Teach a man how to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime; Give him Religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish"

yommyuk:
Psalms 111:10
Fear of the Lord is the foundation of true wisdom. All who obey his commandments will grow in wisdom

Wisdom is the tree of life to those who embrace her, happy are those who hold her tightly. - Prov 3:18

When you choose to do the will of God, you are at peace and happy. Your conscience is clear that you have done the right thing. Sometimes when u choose to do the right thing, people may call u names like [b]['Fool' and 'Weak'./b] But my bible says in Psalms 60:4 " But you(God) have raised a banner for those who fear you- a rallying point in the face of attack. hmmmmmmmmm

Meaning when you want to do what is right in the midst of people with a different perspective of what you are trying to do. An inner strength and confidence is required to do what is right. Most people will back out! But you should choose to stand firm. Afterwards a sense of pride and confidence takes over you. The guilt for doing the wrong thing is not your portion. You have put the devil to shame.

CONCLUSION

Choose to do the right thing at all times because in doing so you have turned the wisdom of the world into foolishness

God bless

coolviv:
@chiteny. If your father, mother or even pastor can lead Ɣ☺Ʊ to Jesus, does dat mean d Holy Spirit is not a part of it since only He shld lead Ɣ☺Ʊ to Jesus?I mean if Ɣ☺Ʊ say anyone dat is not d Holy Spirit leads one to d devil, well then, dat means your parents or pastor r leading Ɣ☺Ʊ to,

Evil Brain:
Nursery school argument. Nobody is talking about the koran here. Even if you were able to discredit the koran, it wouldn't make the bible any more legitimate. This is not an either/or situation. Learn how to debate like a rational adult.

Unless you can show us that OP's information and his sources are wrong, please keep your opinions to yourself. You're not contributing anything positive to this thread and the last thing we need is another christian vs muslim trollfest.

Malstrom:
Im confused, why would BBC lie about something like that? What do they gain from that??

more of mohammed's actions

Hadith 9:50, 57 "No Umma (a member of Muslim community) should be killed for killing a Kafir (an infidel). . Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." I stand to be corrected,is that really from the Hadith

nagoma:
@Poster
[b]Now that the Boko haram sect is gradually being unveil as a political militancy group and not an Islamic group , [/b]will the confused poster reconsider his view? The media should not decide for you what God you worship.
The West(America) is at war with Islam and the media is one of the major frontlines in  this war, the violent side works in codes , war on terror, democratization etc. The full history of this war may only be written when the war is over and as the war will not be over (there will always be muslims in this world) the full story and full plan may never be accepted publically.
Its even more complicated when some so called important muslim countries are allies in this war - knowingly or unknowingly.
From whatever statistics Islam remains the fastest growing religon in the world and the fastest growing religion in America.
As this poster leaves islam temporarily (he is swayed by media) a dozen others are choosing to become muslims.

uplawal:
@plappville,you failled to bring one single error,yet you claimed otherwise,insult begets insult,you should know that.Stop speaking ill of my religion and i will leave you.You berra save your prayers for yourself

uplawal:
@Plappville,i can see you devoid of reasoning,you qouted hadiths and you called it Quran?this is utter shame to you,do more research.
And to your prayers,you need the prayers most cos am assured in islam by Allah in the Quran by obeying him.Am very fine in Allah's straight path.

@Frosbel the anti-christ,show me where Jesus says worship me or he was worshipped,you will never find it in that book called bible,He(Jesus)practically worshipped his own God Allah,he did salat to Him,likewise other past prophets and messengers,they all did the same thing,did you know bowing down s worship at all?incase you dnt know,it is,let me give you example from your bible where the devil asked jesus to bow down to him and worship him,cos Jesus knows the trick the old fool was trying to make,He blattantly refused to do so,not your own devislish dancing,clapping,deliberate closing of eyes,self righteousness d one you're advising the ignorant poster to be doing,etc, that you people portrayed to be worship.

uplawal:
@plappville,who told you God does not curse,dnt you know you are under his curse already?i pity your life honestly,why are you saying God of jesus,but dnt you people attest that jesus is god in all your songs,banner, etc, in the new testament,eventhough He never sent you such blasphemous message,and you are here claiming self righteousness,disagreeing with your bible saying God of jesus,and it would be in your dream that your pastors wont say jesus is lord,only you would say God of jesus exists in your today's christianity,when 99% of christians call jesus god.

The Hadith:

Hadith 1:13-- "I have been ordered by Allah to fight with people till they bear testimony to the fact that there is no God but Allah."
Hadith 1.24 "Narrated Ibn `Umar: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers"
Hadith 1.25"Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause."
Hadith 19:4294 "Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war."
Hadith 1:35 "The person who participates in Allah's cause (namely, in battle). . will be recompensed by Allah either with reward or booty or will be admitted to Paradise."
Hadith 9:4 "Wherever you find infidels kill them; for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection."
Hadith 9:50, 57 "No Umma (a member of Muslim community) should be killed for killing a Kafir (an infidel). . Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
Sahih Muslim 4363: "You (the Jews) should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle and I wish to expel you from this land (Arabia)
Sahih Muslim 4366 Narrated by Umar ibn al-Khattab. Umar heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslims

Malstrom:
The reason you don't hear so much violence from others like Christians is that media choose to show you one side of the story.

If you look it up Muslims are over represented in media reports about terrorism yet under- represented in actual cases of terrorist attacks. In Europe the EU is keeping statistics about the terrorist attacks each year from the last 5 to ten years and only 1-3% of all Terror attacks each year has been made by Muslims (or people claiming to be Muslims)

uplawal:
@Plappville,may God curse you for saying hes the father of all of us,you are a slave whether you like it or not and your bible testify it.

Leffe2010:
to your answer i dey 4 work the one day one white boy ask me if i hear wetin happen for my country and i ask the boy what he told me iam a muslem i said yes he told me that terrorist atack united nation building and alot of oyibo people dey there i was so embarass b/cos i dey do my prayer 4 work when i dey break ifact i dey leave this religion but dont know my next step still thinking christinity b/cos you dont hear so much violence from them advice please

Malstrom:
there are friendly people of all races but when you see it on a bigger scale THE WHOLE WORLD HATES BLACK PEOPLE! THEY DO NOT WANT AFRICANS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND THEY DO NOT WANT REAL INDEPENDENCE OF AFRICAN NATIONS AND THEY DO NOT WANT AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT! They do not see black people as their equals!

Africa can only succeed if UNITED and it has to come from the people. Enough is enough we can only rely on ourselves because its truly the world against Africa and African people.

Greetings from Sweden (btw: a damn racist country)!

And how can anyone say we worship Mary? She who so humbled herself to God wit a prayer dat has become a model of worship to God,Luke 1:46-55. Can such a servant of God ever claim equal powers wit him. She is a role model to catholics of humility n submission to God's will. We honour her as d mother of our Lord who stood by silently in obedience to God's word and watched a child she nurtured from a baby to a todler to a teenager nd finally an adult, 33yrs,being whipped, mobbed and crucified before her eyes and she said nothing, just cried quietly for  God's prophecy had to b fulfilled.

Leffe2010:
i am a muslim for me i am planing to leave the religion by the year ending we islam is a laughing stock here in europe thinking of converting to christian but i dont know my father is angry with my decision so sad

FROSBEL:Why at all a black stone in the Kabba, why do people kiss it.

Plain idolatry !!

Remember this pagan tradition existed before Muhammad.

It's this same stone the koran claimed, Abraham and his son Ishmael were the ones who built it. Its called the Ka’bah, it's in Mecca See(Sura 2:127).  However, this contradicted all other history books under human knowledge.
There is no historical evidence for the assertion that Abraham or Ishmael was ever in Mecca.

We learnt tht Abraham used to live in the city of (U r) of the Chaldees (South East Iraq), and he moved west toward Canaan, a land very plentiful in foods, but not south toward Mecca, a city in the middle of the desert.  Why would God promise to give Abraham’s posterity a land of abundant resources and then send him into a desert "hell-hole" where tribes would have to go to war every year just to fight over a well of water?! Allah has realy wrote the koran with so much framed lies!

[b]from uplawal:[/b]I rejoice in the death of every enemy of Allah,and may his curse and his angels curse start manifesting in their lives.

uplawal:
I rejoice in the death of every enemy of Allah,and may his curse and his angels curse start manifesting in their lives.

Malstrom:
The idea that Muslims are by default violent is a very racist propaganda propagated by the white power elite in the world to oppress the other races in the world through their "war on terror"

Recognise the real "terrorist", The nations of USA, Europe and their allies. Recognise the real enemy, and don't be a bloody aHSS licker for western interests.


"Divide and rule" - does that say anything to u?

"There was one time the house N---- and the Field N----"

@Op: If Boko Haram, etc are your ideal muslims, [b]where do you put your parents who are muslims, spending their emotion, monies, etc on you? Are they not the logical examples for your life, instead of looking at shadowing ignorant group of low lives, pretending to be humans? Allah says some humans are even worse than cattle.

I took my Islam from my late father [ra] and in time, in less than a decade ago, my former christian mother became a muslim when I asked if Jesus was God, The All Powerful? She said no because she was able to differentiate lies from reality of "of my own power, I can do nothing", as Jesus had declared. I asked if Jesus was son of God, she knew enough that Adam and Eve who had no mother[s] were not children of God, and they would have been more qualified to be if God is to have children from mankind, since Jesus had even a mother, and looked like her, who in turn had parents. Alhamdulillah, my mother now in her 80s is a woman when she dies [not soon oh Allah. Give her many more decades, still, for you are abundant in Mercy, Blessing, etc], i will be able to make supplication to Allah for her.[/b]

Sweetnecta:
@Plappville: « #29 on: Today at 01:32:48 PM »but i have advised you even in a better manner, ma sista. but all you have done is to behave like aja to sonu [i hope you can read yoruba]. you need to come to my side, instead of worshiping 3 gods.