₦airaland Forum

GANDALF1:
Wow! This is interesting. Nigeria was available for them as a case study na. Why make the same mistake that is affecting us till date when it can be avoided?

Omarbah:
who said they were ethnic groups? Somalia is one ethnic group and even better, one religion but with their clans, look at what is happening. Didn't the Yoruba kingdom face a rebellion that was exploited by Sokoto and yet it was tribes fighting each other. What makes Botswana stable is not their ethnic or tribal makeup but their political system which ensures participation of every tribe regardless of the size. How much direct participation do the kings, obas, emirs of Nigeria have in the policies of the country?

reedonne: I dont think you understand my point. Both Ife and Ijesha population is less than 30% of our total population.
It is not that we are not united, the fact is that our politicians are exploiting our sub-class for political game. But in china, the people does not have power to elect their ruler, so they cannot exploit it. I have also gave somalia as a example.

reedonne: No they are united by the powerful communist party. Whenever we are competeting with each other we will always find a new division line.
I have giving you an example: Osun state governorship election. Osun is a yoruba state with 100% of its population being yoruba. During our election, a candidate who is an ijesha yoruba won in ijesha towns while another candidate who is an Ife yoruba won in ife towns. What do you call this. FYI I am a yoruba and I dont understand the language of some yoruba sub-group eg ikare.

chulla12: Not gonna lie...that map literally grosses me out lol.

reedonne: China was ethnically one: yes, but they can be clasify into many sub groups. Example are: zhang, han,hui, manchu, miao etc
It is very easy to divide any group whether homogenous or not. Just give weapon to greedy people and they will help you destroy their people.
Even in pre colonial times, africa tribal city state attack another city-state of the same tribe. An example is the Ibadan and the Ekiti parapo war.

kingston277: Sure, But guess what. How did those states get so big in the first place? You really don't think most of the ethnic groups (states, really) just polity let Mali or Songhai lord over them did you? In order for said states to get so big, they conquered and pillaged other kingdoms to take over their land. I would have recommend the same thing for Africa today if there wasn't the whole slaughtering/carnage problem and the UN breathing down the necks of aspiring 21st century conquistadors.

kingston277: Op, do you happen to know to this cretin:
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=008818;p=1

Omarbah: the worst thing is you said they live like monkeys, are you serious? And you have the nerves to brush us these pictures. Do monkeys live in such homes?

Omarbah: Like I said, now the government is doing something about it. That's what count. A people could be miserable in 2012 but that doesn't have to be case in 2020 for example. That's my point.

ezeagu: Madam CJ Walker wasn't the first female billionaire, she never even was a billionaire. Besides, if you want to say African Americans were better off in 1918 than in 2014, especially in places like Louisiana where Madam Walker was from, then that's a case for reading up on world history in general. African Americans always had high incarceration rates, it comes with being a country's bunching bag.

Omarbah: Can we have the source?

Fulaman198: This I agree with 110%

ezeagu: Mansa Musa didn't conquer the Arabs, and neither did the Arabs conquer Mansa Musa. If there was no rebound then I hardly see this as a failure although the money could have obviously been better spent. Black Americans are obviously in far superior position now than in the 1950s, if you want to argue that, then list the amount of African American billionaires in the 1950s. I wouldn't call that 'degeneration'.

ezeagu: Africa, just like Japan, China, India, the Americas, the Middle East, and so on, ended up under European hegemony due to historic geopolitical reasons. Europe had a better vantage point in terms of their climate, their proximity to cultural centres, particularly in the middle east, and because of inevitability and the fall of other powers. There are differing causes for each case that have been discussed by a plethora of sources. Africa in particular fell, after 400 years of European contact, because of depopulation, internal wars and the fall of states due a large part to the slave trade.

Counter argument 1 to African "ADD": African states weren't the only ones subjugated by European powers, it was/is pretty much global.

pansophist: Nothing is wrong with our race, this is a one-side quote that focus on reasons to show human are not equal and strengthning why we are different thus, encouraging discrimination and ignorance. You wont be saying this before Europeans came into Africa, when the continent was flourishing in our own making, but you are saying this after the mess they left that has kept the continent on chaos with a continuous social conditioning of your brain as to why we need them to ''purify'' our race. An idiotic sentence I have heard for a very long time.

One quote for you.

“I sit on a man’s back choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure myself and others that i am sorry for him and wish to lighten his load by all means possible… except by getting off his back.” Tell your albinos to free the continent, and watch it grow like a grass in few years.