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Rofl... Feminism gone off into the deep end. The only thing that actually surprises me at this point is how there are men supporting this.

P.s Its also funny how the females that obsess over "rape culture blablabla" are creatures so disgusting and vile that no male wants to go within 15 feet of them consensually or otherwise. (and that isnt just because of looks, their personalities are equally disgusting)

indians 100%

axum: Ethiopians dont merge with Black. Horn gave rise to North Africans and Arabs. All Afroasiatic languages are spoken in the Horn, this is where they came from.

The only way out of Africa is through the Horn via the Nile river into North Africa, and the red sea into Yemen.

I dont care.

ah the censor wont let the link play. to bad

Vh1 show "dating naked" http://www.vh1.com/shows/dating-naked/dating-naked-episode-101/1729194/playlist/#id=1729194

Black woman gets like 4 mins of airtime then is literally ignored (nignored) by every man on the show the entire time. Black dude looks like he needs to hit the gym a little bit more before getting naked on camera. He gets called a player for no reason, and both are deemed the most undesirable and sent home.

Rofl, what is the point of even putting black people in these shows?

If anything the Indo-European language only spread into Europe by those early Aryans. Similar to how Northeast Africans spread AA into the Middle East. Doesn't mean Europeans are related to Northern Indians like Punjabis who speak Indo-European.

Dude. What are u even talking about. All indo european groups are decended from one group that migrated out of central asia called "Proto-Indo Europeans". How on on earth can u claim they not related when they descended from the same ethnic group?

Actually it does. The first AA speakers would be would we call "black". Ethiopians and Somalis are NOT the fringe, in fact AA originated in Ethiopia in the first place. But horners spread it into Arabia. Also I am well aware that race is not clear. And stated it many times on here. That actually proves more that Bantu is not race. Nor can a language family be a race. Also there is no such evidence of blacks "merging" with Semitic speakers to create Ethiopians. In fact the early semitic speakers would have looked no different from horners. Nor is there any proof of Iranians being a result of Europeans mixing with semitic speaking people. If anything modern day semitic speakers are the result of Northeast Africans and South Asians.

And then you discover that amharic (the dominant ethnic group in ethiopia) actually claim to have originated in yemen. Dude listen. Just because you think afro asiatic originated in East Africa, and i actually agree with you on that, does't mean that they aren't mixed. Cultures that share a border always mix and thus blurr the lines of their respective races, its common sense.

You are arguing against textbook Anthropology with internet psuedo-science. The fact of the mater is, anthropologists use language to determine ethnic/racial identity it has been proven to be the most reliable method. I'm not going to keep arguing about stuff that has already been proven correct, have a good day.

North indians and iranians both trace their Indo-European heritage to a ethnic group called the Ayrans. Does that sound familiar? thats right, its the same race Hitler and the natzis claim to be decended from.

Arabs are Afro Asiatic.... which has nothing to do with being black. It means semitic. Berbers, North Africans, Arabs, Jews etc all fall into this group, and on the fringe Eithopians and Somalis. You don't seem to understand that race isn't a clear cut thing, every race merges into the others. The ethiopians are where Semetic merges with black and the iranians are where white merges with semitic.

this is my opinion, and the way i choose to look at things. Its fine if we disagree, race is pseudoscience anyway.

Radoillo: Saying Bantu is a race is like saying the Romance-speaking people (Italian, Spanish, French, etc) are a race.

No... its like saying Indo-European is a race, and it is. We call it white. Every single white group speaks an indo-european language except the basque in spain.

This picture shows the language families in the world, which also happen to be the borders between what is considered, mongloid, black, caucasian and semetic

Green is white, orange is black, yellow is semetic, red is mongloid and pink is pacific islander. This might as well be a racial map.

Do u still like tariq nasheed btw? i feel like he went off into the deep end. Way way way too biased about black issues. I dont feel like it does us any good to look at things from such a one sided perspective

PAPAAFRICA: isnt pleep black?

Yea, im just unbiased

KidStranglehold: Bantu IS NOT a race. There is no proof of Bantu being a race or Igbo language being Bantu or part Bantu. "Bantu" is a recent 19/20th century term. The reason why Bantu is a language is because of one word, "the people".

Igbo(and Germans) IS an ethnic group where as Bantu is just a term to group together people who speak a common language. Again its not a race nor is it technically an ethnic group. Even if you want to say Bantu is a "race", studies show that Igbo's don't cluster with Bantu "speakers", so Igbo's can't have Bantu ancestry. And I believe Radoillo even stated Igbo's recently migrated into Eastern Nigeria.

Language and race are like the same thing, excluding examples of colonization or conquest. language travels by blood and so anthropologists mainly use language to determine which groups came from where etc.

Long time guys =D

Stillfire: It is not justified. Why? The blacks are just...for lack of a better word - 'hungrier'

1) The median household wealth between white and black is $91,405 and $6,446 respectively
2) Median household income ratio between white and black is $59, 754 : 35,416
3) Unemployment rate ratio between white and black 5.3% : 11.4%
4) Poverty rate between white and black 9.5% : 27.2%. More than one in four blacks live in poverty, while fewer than one in 10 whites do.


Is it rocket science why one would rather rip off an ordinary $2 cup of soda than the other? Absolutely not. It is unfortunate that what ought to be a mere social divide between the rich and poor has a skin color attached to it in America.

The GDP of black America is almost 2.2 trillion, which is equal to or greater then most countries in the EU. Based on this alone African Americans should be a global force with power on the world stage. But how does a 2.2 trillion end up equating to 6,446 median wealth? Utter stupidity of indescribable magnitude.. the most shocking indictment of black peoples depravity and materialism. Spending and debt is why black people don't have money, we spend more on consumer goods then some of the richest nations on earth.

In light of the fact that black peoples poverty in America is of our own doing, none of your points (except 3 ) give a compelling argument against racism.

3. Unemployment is a factor, but i would argue that black peoples behavior and reputation is largely responsible for that as well. The majority of people that ask for job applications where i work are black, but most of them are never highered. This is probably due to the behavior of black customers creating a bad image for black applicants. Its justified. i've even seen a black teen ask for an application, then a water, and then fill that water cup with soda in full view of everyone. I threw his app in the trash myself.

Justcash: The OP made a valid argument. The argument is not specific to the black race. It is just natural to counteract against a breach of trust, especially when the culprits can be demographically segmented. This is exactly what is happening against NIGERIANS around the world. Due to the nefarious activities of some unscrupulous citizens amongst us, 170 million of us are viewed as thieves, scammers, rash and loud people. If you ask me if the treatment is justified, I'll say, "Hell Yeah", because I know that Nigerians will do the same if the situation was reversed.
For example, you can imagine the type of xenophobic reaction generated against Liberians due to the action taken by Patrick Sawyer. That is the same explanation for why, for example, Malaysians treat every Nigerian as a scammer.
Back to OPs case, if the restaurant created such a policy to stem the breach of trust being perpetrated by their black customers, it is not RACISM, it is a COUNTERACTIVE measure. Anyone that feels that it is not justified is just not being honest.

great post

Rawani:

The bottom line, is that everyone takes advantage of opportunities when presented...whether white, black or purple. The OP's case, in which blacks were the only 'culprits', might be an isolated, or unique case. It is therefore unfair to promote a stereotype just because trends in a locality support the prejudice.

If the trends in the locality support the prejudice, is that prejudice still not justified there? If so why?

Abbott: No it is not.
That, to me, is racism. You do not colour the whole with the stain of a part or unit.

disregard that post if you dont mind. I misstated my argument

I want to keep this thread based solely on this specific example

itstpia1: and what you are doing now is not calling a lynch mob?


if someone asks you for water then hand him the damn water or tell him you have none since the machine is broken.

i would like to see you try this crap with hispanics.

who is making excuses for others to steal? When you go into a place for business, you're supposed to do a swop analysis and research the area to find out possible scenarios to envisage there.

i dont know of anywhere in the world where you place a cup in someone's hands, refuse to fix your water machine, then accuse the person of stealing your soda when you deliberately set him or her up to do exactly that.

So black people have the right steal whenever given the opportunity?

The actions of other black people directly affect the way you (an innocent black man) will be perceived. Its justified.

itstpia1: dont you think its s.tupid to tell customers to "take only water" from the soda fountain while handing them a cup?

why cant you give them the water yourself AND call the central office to come and look at the water machine?

I've NEVER heard of a restaurant being withuot a means to verify or prevent customers from taking soda when they should be taking water.

later you will call the cops ad get someone killed all because of what? A totally preventable situation?

and you think God will overlook that when reckoning your sins?

I have never stolen in my life and i do not make excuses for others to steal. If someone walks to me and asks for a water cup i give him a cup and expect him to fill it with water. If he fills it with juice he is stealing from me.

When a customer is caught stealing were i work the white people simply tell them to pour out the soda and fill the cup with water. No voices are raised, no police are called.... and until recently that same black customer who stole yesterday could come in the next day and receive another water cup. (only to steal again)

This is actually much more reasonable then what is done in Nigeria where a human being can be wrapped in tires and burned to death at the call of "ole"

Respect55: Brother,u sound so pathetic n your comments are really excruciating.Are u white coloured?

Nope i am 100% black, of Nigerian decent.

I have no love for white people I see them as my enemy, but despite this fact i do allow bias to cloud my judgement. I form my opinions through logic and reason, not emotion. The fact of the matter is racism is quickly becoming justified because of the actions of black people.

itstpia1: And where is a disposable cup retailing for $2.00?

That's your idea of cost effectiveness?

Opuro buruku.

The cups are bought from the manufacturer for 1-3 cents and are sold for $2 dollars. This is because the restaurant is not actually selling the cup, we are selling the drink the customer puts in it.

The cups are considered free when they are used for water, but not for soda.

Either way the fact that you guys choose to focus on the least important aspect of this scenario is evidence that your brains are not mature enough for an actual philosophical discussion. Who cares if its cost effective? its not your store.

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Dont be scared of the truth people.

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Gay gay gay gay gay... thats all black people say when they argue. Its nauseating.

Rawani: Keep blabbing and deluding yourself. Good luck trying to find someone with a matching inferiority complex to help you justify racism. No wonder your thread is dead, racist scum.

Its not me with the inferiority complex its you guys.

The ignorant think that blacks will improve our condition when other races stop being racist. This is a negative feedback loop because our own behavior reinforces racism and thus negates any progress we are making when fighting it

Im trying to break the feedback loop by changing the only aspect of the cycle that is in our own control. (our own behavior)

Rawani: How about not setting yourself up for attack by the tiger. A man built to seek out opportunity will definitely exploit one when presented.

good idea.

We will "not set ourselves up to be stolen from" (attacked by the tiger) by refusing to give water cups to black customers.

Rawani: How can the business decide it's not cost efficient when

1. By repairing it, it will avoid the new recurrent expenditure of 3 cents x ? number of cups per day. A cost that was previously non-existent.

2. The cost of stolen soda, and negative publicity from the new policy is grossly higher than the cost of fixing an ordinary water fountain.

Oh my god. Finding someone capable of rational discussion is like trying to teach a gerbil to read.

First off, a brand new water-fountain can cost up to $1000 plus labor which is still more than giving away 100,000 water cups.

Second off, who cares? thats not the fucking point of the thread so Stop strawmanning the argument. There are only 3 factors that mater, the behavior of the black customers, the behavior of the white costomers and the response of the store. If you cannot debate this without deflecting and strawmaning then leave.

egift: Hope you did not skip that he also returned N17 along. Remember he earn only 20k per month that means what he returned was his salary for 850 months (70 years salary).

oooooh ok

Rofl. Man returns an electronic gadget and you guys act like its the second comming of christ.

Rawani: Nope. If your point was to showcase the greedy nature if some blacks, you should have framed it better, instead of trying to veil it under a business losing money as a result of black greed, when it is really because of inefficiency and weak strategy. The likes of Bernie Madoff are definitely not black, going by your postulation about black people and abuse of trust, one would then be safe and 'un-racist' to say white people are the greediest people to walk the earth.

Bernie Madoff is not complaining about people mistrusting him... and if he did it would sound ironic and not be taken seriously.

Just like the black people who repeatedly steal water-cups in my real life scenario. If a tiger attacks you every time you meet one are you not justified in fearing tigers? By that same rationality a store that is repeatedly exploited by blacks is justified in being racist towards them. And by default an immigration system, law system or even government as well.