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OMG.. did a woman actually write this?

My faith in female logic is restored.

The celebration of exaggerated victimhood.

Worldstar!

hahahahaha. Thats nothing

anonymous6: lol Obama is not being soft he is being cautious by not dragging America in every war and etc that goes on especially in the third world. People need to remember after the Iraq and afghanistan war that was created by Bush and slowly being shut down by Obama, many Americans don't care for any war, regardless of their feelings. President Obama is doing what is within his means to appease the American citizens and help(air strikes) innocent Iraqi's from being slaughtered by animals like ISIS.

At the sametime I feel The American government pick and choses at times based on their interest, what battles they join and ones they don't; Darfur and Rwandan civil war is a very good example where America could careless but joined The vietnam war and it messed up President Lyndon Johnson then(70's) or when America went into Somalia(watch the movie: BLACK HAWK DOWN) and left in not in a good note in the early to mid 90's, I still remeber how Americans were complaining then.

President Obama must be taking in all the options and asking other european leaders to get involved, Like the UK, France, Germany, and even Russia(but I doubt they will after the Ukraine fiasco that is currently on-going and a mess, especially after the malaysian air craft that was shot down).

President Obama is doing what he can do in the present time, People need to know also some Americans even disagreed with Obama doing anything which included airstrikes or putting attention on the Ukraine or Gaza fiasco, they wanted thim to concentrate on more domestic issues.

People will always complain about Obama, especially the time he became president when the American economy was a mess and he had to quench two countries(Iraq and Afghanistan) from disaster. When President Obama got elected and he kept to the promise that he will end the Iraq war before his presidency and Americans were happy about this and I feel him sending ground troops will break that promise he made to American people. Air strikes are the best way where he slow doen the crazy ISIS but not start a breeding ground for another war in a country where he said he will end this past summer.

Exactly.

Either way American involvement almost always makes the situation worse. Just look at what happened in Libya it went from the highest living standard in Africa to a failed state.

To hell with fighting ISIS, obama is making the right decision here. That crap does not affect us what-so-ever. Let the middle east deal with their own garbage for once.

And on a more strategic note, there is much benefit to having all Americas enemies concentrated into one area instead of being dispersed all over the world. Terrorists from Europe, NA, China and all over the Arab world are concentrating into an area the size of belgium. Perhaps even Nigeria own terrorists will leave and join ISIS . Its beautiful because it simplifies the counter terrorism fight by a significant degree and also adds the options of non-military aggression such and sanctions and blockades if they end up becoming an actual country.

OP is a mugu

Whats the problem though? that sounds awesome

Rofl who cares if the girl cums or not?

MabraO: The price is relatively small compared to my movado which cost $800

the design of the black one looks the same (if not better) then a movado and has more high tech gadgets.

well worth the price imo

Yay or nay?

Forsaken: i didnt mention aving gay friends. I said i try avoid gays.

I mite av gay friends, but i dnt know weda they r gay.

I avnt met gay b4 except a dude bursted back in high skul. I attended boarding skul(mixed with male and female) though i was a day student.

Ok. Anyway im going to be honest with you

You will never ever ever ever ever, change your intimate desires, it may fluctuate between a stronger attraction for men/women but ur same sex attraction will never go away. Doesnt matter how hard you pray fast blabla bla its science.

The good news is you wont turn full blown gay, so if you avoid gay ppl and find urself a nice girlfriend you will be alright. its not a big deal

Forsaken: i av actually had sex with a girl 4year older than me when i was below 10. Dat one mite nt be counted.

That may be what caused your problem.

Sexual activity, not to talk of actual sex before puberty is not healthy for a childs sexual development. Btw you mentioned that you have "gay friends" why do u have gay friends, where did u meet them?

Forsaken: The annoying part is dat its overcoming my feeling for females.

I get disgusted at seeing black vaginal but get erection on white own. But, breast and ass turns me on.

Thats normal

I wish Royal was here

EnlightenedSoul: Why are you acting like so-called mutual drunk sex is the only, or even major cause of ra.pe? You baffle.

The funny thing (not to say that it's surprising) about your angle is how you're practically foaming at mouth over the "women's accountability" so much so that you reserved nada accountability for the actual aggressor aka ra.pist.

Rofl, we mentioned earlier how 9/10 rape accusations never reach prosecution.

Those are the cases i am taking about. They are dismissed because of baseless evidence and can easy be avoided by responsible behavior. Consentual drunk sex is not rape, even if u regret it in the morning.

http://time.com/3222176/campus-rape-the-problem-with-yes-means-yes/

a woman with logic, describes some of the problems with this law

Soon everyone will need to start carrying written consent cards in their wallet an get them signed before intercourse.

One small step forward for feminism. 10 steps back for mankind.

EnlightenedSoul: We can agree that there are sometimes choices a woman can make to lessen her risk of falling prey to a ra.pist (stay in groups, stay alert, avoid risky areas), but that does not mean that the act of ra.pe is not 100% the responsibility and fault of the ra.pist, not the victim. A person is ultimately responsible for their own actions. However, being ra.ped is NOT their action, it is the ra.pist's. I'm really trying to be as simple as possible here. Ya git?

Rofl @ "Stay in groups" Avoid "risky areas"... im not even talking about that. How about u dont get drunk and have sex with a stranger? It is literally that simple dumbass.

You have the right to walk wherever you want, whenever you want, alone or with 30 people its not even as dangerous as u think (less then 1% of college rapes occur in the street). What you don't have the right to do, however, is accuse someone of rape because u were drunk or didn't say the magic word. Its too bad these new laws are designed to fuel ur lack of accountability

EnlightenedSoul: Mutual drunk sex wherein both parties were equally drunk att isn't ra.pe because neither is taking intentional advantage against the others will. In these cases, if either of then were to feel violated and report it as ra.pe, the surrounding circumstances would be investigated but it's generally considered a weak case.

If a DRUNK person comes onto you, you diffuse the situation. There was no valid consent given.

No shit its a weak case you aids monkey.

That is the reason why 9/10 rape cases never make it to prosecution, the vast majority of them are voluntarily alcohol related and legally baseless.

EnlightenedSoul: It appears you don't understand a thing.

That's because you can’t legally consent to sex if you are intoxicated above the legal limit. This makes sense—when you’re drunk, your faculties are lowered, and you’re more vulnerable. Alcohol is actually the most common drug used in sex.ual assaults. But if you're in college, there’s a solid chance that you'll be dabbling in alcohol. So how do you balance legal consent, which is absolutely necessary for any sex.ual conduct, when you're barhopping? PRIOR CONSENT. It's not rocket science. If you KNOW that a DRUNK stranger can't give CONSENT under law, then why are you putting yourself on the line by stupidly having drunken sex with them by way of their INVALID DRUNKEN consent??

Like i was saying earlier its disgusting that adult women hold beliefs and woldviews i would be disappointed to see in a 10 year old. So if you go out drunk and have sex with another drunk stranger, its his fault for "stupidly having sex with you"?

You are fuking retarded. If the man is drunk too, by your same logic he cant consent to the rape. Your reasoning makes no sense, get that through your urine saturated brain. Grown up children like you make all women look bad, if i sign my house to a neighbor under the influence of alchohol that does not make the consent invalid under law.

Do we need to make another set of rules for estrogen saturated hags like yourself who cant even add up simple logic?

EnlightenedSoul: KEYWORD being CONSENSUAL!



And what worldview is that? That attending a university, or going to a party shouldn't mean you deserve to be ra.ped? 'Cuz that is the only "worldview" I've presented to you thus far.

it appears you don't fully understand the ideology you are defending

In california and many other parts of the country consent given under the influence of alcohol is not considered valid and the sex is still considered rape.

Oh and the fact that the woman gave consent while drunk (unless the drink was drugged, which can be proven) does not make it raype either. If you consented to get drunk with full knowledge of the effects of alcohol, whos fault is that? Should the man be expected to administer a breathalyzer test before having intercourse?

Also, what if he is drunk too, doesn't the alchohol impair him as much as it impairs you? Can he now claim that he didn't consent to the sex because he was drunk as well?

What if sign over my car to a neighbor while drunk? is my consent no longer valid?

Modern rape laws represent the apex of liberal regressivism, they spit in the face of logic, reason and everything else law should be based on. Adding another layer of B.S (yes, means yes,) just makes the problem worse

EnlightenedSoul: Just like the pleep fellow, you are INTENTIONALLY conflating what is required to prove ra.pe with what is ra.pe, so who exactly is the mindless fvcktard here? Keep up.

Getting drunk and having consensual sex with a stranger is not raype, even if u regret it in the morning. That happens to guys all the time but we dont ge't upset because we realize we put ourselves in the situation.

p.s I truly believe men and women are born with equal mental capacity but females turn themselves inferior by the low standards of responsibility they set for themselves. How can an adult woman hold on a worldview i abandoned when i was about 5 years old? Its sickening.

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Sagamite: The under-current philosophy of most women is "We should not have any responsibility".

Someone without responsibility can never have any blame since they have no duty. They want to pass all responsibility to men but think they are equal.

That is majority of them's ideal world.

pretty much, its pointless trying to reason with them they will just retreat into this endless victim victimhood narrative and continue to argue when they are obviously wrong.

Society is just going through one of its wierd phases, when it gets extreme enough (laws like this are a step in that direction) there will be a massive backlash, and the few voices of reason wont be in the minority anymore.

For all the men supporting this, i want to remind you that is puts you and your brothers/sons at serious risk. Do not throw your rights away because u heard some feminist sophists distorting the truth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/08/brian-banks-accuser-caugh_n_1581605.html

Stick to the real common sense definition of rape, not this liberal regressive distortion that devalues the suffering of actual rape victims and men who end up falsely accused, or baselessly accused under these absurd laws.

EnlightenedSoul: Forgetting to lock your door doesn’t mean you’ve given permission for someone to enter. Inviting someone into your home doesn’t mean you consented for them to steal a valuable. Going to college, living in a dorm or swinging by a frat party one night ISN'T invitation for ra.pe. Yours is a typical vile mindset, and one that fits perfectly among the listed "defenses" you just swept aside. "She came to a frat party, she wanted to be ra.ped". Grow up indeed.

When your entire prosecution comes down to "i didn't say yes" with 0 evidence that this is true it is your responsibility to avoid that situation.

And cut of the "don't blame the victim crap" It is so brainlessly easy for a woman to protect herself from these "pseudo rapes" (i call it a pseudo rape when it comes down to saying yes or no) that i refuse to call them victims. Save your QQ for the people who got drugged or physically attacked in a dark ally not these irresponsible drunkards who had sex with a stranger and regretted it the next morning.

When u look at actual rape cases (with actual evidence) the prosecution rate goes up to 9/10

EnlightenedSoul: And yet these are defenses that customarily come up, with only 1 in 10 of the cases reaching prosecution.

Forgetting to lock your door doesn’t mean you’ve given permission for someone to enter. Inviting someone into your home doesn’t mean you consented for them to steal a valuable. Going to college, living in a dorm or swinging by a frat party one night ISN'T invitation for ra.pe. Yours is a typical vile mindset, and one that fits perfectly among the listed "defenses" you just swept aside. "She came to a frat party, she wanted to be ra.ped".

Grow up indeed.

Like a typical feminist you spout stats that you have no ability to put together into a reasonable veiwpoint. Yes, 1 in 10 rape accusations reach prosecution, do u even understand why that is?

Its because 9 out of 10 rape accusations are based on non-existent or flimsy evidence. This is the result of a crime that has been reduced to a trivial shell of what it once was. Rape has become the absence of a single word ( no witnesses, no bruises, no sign of struggle, no evidence that what occurred was non-consensual except what the victim said the morning after.) According to this definition of rape almost every male posting here is an unprosecuted rapist.

Instead of realizing the fact that rape has become potentially the most baseless accusation in America, you seek to increase the scope of what can be considered evidence of rape instead of addressing the actual problem.

EnlightenedSoul: Though I question this law's ability to effectively make some sort of difference, I don't think you and others here are understanding the reasoning behind the law, and why it came to pass. Only 1 in 10 ra.pes are prosecuted, and when they are prosecuted (in a court or by a college) "she didn’t say NO" is always a defense. Always.

- She didn’t say no sternly, loudly, threateningly enough.
- She didn’t fight hard enough.
- She didn’t say no because… hey, just look at what she was wearing.
- She was sexually active, so she doesn’t say no to sex.
- She didn’t say no when we were making out/she wanted it.

no no no no no.

Every example above (and there are more) is claiming the victim "didn’t say no". This being California with its countless FRAT and wild Uni parties, officials do tend to run into these issues (intoxicated (or not) girls being ra.ped) more often than some of the more reserved areas of the US. They've recognized that they have a problem on their hands. Their courts are effing tired of repeatedly hearing the "she didn't say NO" line as a defense, to the point that their legislators thought it necessary to pass a "you have to say YES" law. In my eyes, it displays the magnitude of the problem.

First off, none of the examples you gave are considered valid defenses against raype, and Second off, if frat parties are these "hotbeds of raype" as you seem to think, it would make sense for women to stop going to them, but they dont... why?

Why do modern women have the accountability of children yet want respect? Men are trained to avoid dangerous situations while it seems like women are told its always someone elses fault. literally grow the hell up