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Haha @ "from his ancestors"!! you made my night bro

Morocco invaded and looted Songhai because of its wealth. Are you saying that Mansa Musa, who was extremely wealthy and had a prosperous kingdom should have spent his time and wealth invading north Africa, the middle East, and the Mediterranean to acquire even more wealth, even though his nation was already very wealthy?

Instead he wanted to gain as much knowledge as he could from other Muslims, and you're calling him dumb for that?

Mansa Musa was in his mid-40s (near the end of his life) when he went on that pilgrimage and perhaps he had matured and was no longer a young warrior king type, full of war-lust and wealth-lust, but had become more interested in the acquisition of knowledge.

What im basically getting from this is that the most praised, and perhaps most note-worthy man in African history, was an average intelligence, average ambitioned buffoon.

Who probably would have been better off as a cleric than a ruler.

You say that his age may have tempered his war like spirit, but did that stop him from waging war on Gao and other small muslim African states? Why was he a lion to his own people and a house cat to other races?

Mali was by definition an empire, and that neccesitates a tradition of war and conquest. Musa was simply not intelligent enough to extend this to spheres outside is immidiate vicinity.

This was probably caused by a mix of the instant slave mentality a foreign religion brings and Musas own meekness and lack of creativity.

But who knows, maybe he still had imperial ambitions and he and his commanders thought about world conquest and talked about it, but realized that the long distance across the desert that would have to be crossed by hundreds of thousands of soldiers and carriers of supplies in order to invade and conquer these places, and the military risk (to their home base) and cost of such an expedition, and the possible disruption in profitable trade with North Africa that could follow, and the infeasibility of holding together such a far flung and diverse empire (if they did succeed in their conquests) without internal rebellions bringing down the empire, made the entire idea unworkable or pointless. Maybe they realized all of this, and settled for learning instead of engaging in additional campaigns of expansion because they thought they weren't in a position where they could really pull it off successfully.

This is the core of the problem!

Musa was able to transport... "60,000 men, 12,000 slaves who each carried 4-lb. gold bars, heralds dressed in silks who bore gold staffs, organized horses and handled bags. Musa provided all necessities for the procession, feeding the entire company of men and animals.[8] Also in the train were 80 camels, which varying reports claim carried between 50 and 300 pounds of gold dust each."

...Across the Sahara desert and provide food and supplies for them for several years. This is a number of men larger than the Greek force at Gaugemala, larger than the Hannibals force at Nannae, and larger than Napoleons force at the Battle of the Pyramids

And they were almost all fighting age males!

This shows us that the suppliy lines across the sahara were water-tight and that Mali was unequivocally the most wealthy nation on earth at that time.

And army of 60'000 with such a well established supply line could have taken over all of North Africa with ease.

On the giving away of gold, I don't see what the big deal is. He had an immense amount of it, and he handed some gold dust to peasants and beggars to improve their lives. So generosity is stupidity? He was a devout Muslim, so he arranged for many mosques to be built (assuming that story is true) during his pilgrimage so that more people who believed in the same religion as himself could worship properly. But you say he should have been hiring legions of mercenaries to conquer half the world. . .and that doesn't sound like a highly implausible and unreasonable course of action to take to you? I still don't see what the motivation for that would have been.

If he is so great and generous why didn't he free the 12,000 black slaves he dragged across the Sahara, is generosity only deserved by Arabs?

And if Mali had gone on to become highly technologically advanced or become one of the intellectual leaders in the world, instead of declining greatly and becoming a much weaker kingdom economically, militarily, and intellectually, you wouldn't be calling him dumb today, but praising him for laying the foundations for such a society.

Physics why did Mali decline?

Because it was led by dumbasses, that don't know when to seize oppurtunity! When empires stop aquireing new power they stagnate... what did Mali's "great learning" do for Africa? All they were learning was how to kiss Arabic ass with greater effectiveness.... ill bet 90% of their learning was just Arab script and the rest was memorizing the whole Koran by heart, something most Arabs didn't even bother doing.

Mansa-Musa did nothing for Africa, I tell you most American students think he is just an exaggerated Afrocentric myth.

Did you know that Malien gold financed the Italian renaissance? This dumb coon made it possible for the Europeans to advance to the point where they colonized us!

Now i apologize for the foul language, but i am legitimately angry right now. Mansa Musa was a gotdamn coon

What a beeeaaaatch! did she not know that that baby was him reincarnated?

@ physics To further that point.... i also think China's "tributary" system resulted in a net loss of money

I believe that was also mentioned in the book.

CAMEROONPRIDE: ^^^ lmao ayanle, Somalia should read that

somali people are actually heavily mixed with chinese sperm.

Hearing your explanation, i actually agree with your point of view more than the author of the book.

China had no tributaries in Africa. China perceived or considered virtually everyone that they came into contact with as their tributaries because of the superior self-conception they had of their nation relative to others:

This is basically the crux of the matter.

Im just saying that is the way the source portrayed it.

^ bluargh.... that first chicks chatte looks like its vomitting carrots.

[quote author=*Kails*]in other words...

aiight lil bytch. [/quote]lol ok you win.

now enjoy your cookie.

Ok im bored of this now... kalis can do this crap for hours.

Lol..... Au revior! have fun skypin

^ i already did lol!

[quote author=*Kails*]ummm...don't worry about my hips.
i'm blessed....i don't explain shyt to lame bytches...

why don't you explain why my wedgy in that picture look better than your face?

ooooh oooh arrrgh arrgh!! you this hideous monkey.[/quote]hehehe yea... kalis had a nasty fuckin wedgy in her dookie stained drawls. That was the same pic she sent to warya.

some hoes aint got no shame.

Your profile pic doesnt do your nasty shape justice. From the front kalis looks like a gotdamn monster.

[quote author=*Kails*]good question!!
bytch still a virgin. [/quote]No, your friend waryas still a virgin. Pleep gets more pussy than shaq would at an all white school.

But since you want to talk about sex, please explain to me why your hips are so broad? did your uterus break down after your 5th child out of wedlock?

somalia9: whens the last time u saw Womanliness, u thirstty baaastard

last night. You?

was it on skype with a nasty pro-black hoe you met on the internet?

[quote author=*Kails*]"master" would you like me to go on skype?

isa comin! lmao[/quote]Send him more pussy pics...

so we can all barf when he uploads them

somalia9: no, but plz get of my dik

you mean this dik?

trust me... i cant even see it.

btw mrsdarkskin are you still trying to bleach your skin with somalia9's semen?

somalia9: pleep ur an ugly dork, ur a little suck up. Why are u arguin with a woman?

lol

you mean.... the same "ugly gorrilla hoe", whos pictures you posted all over this website?

lol its called fun...unlike you, i actually have classes & a job and sometimes a niggas got to kill time.

Mrs darkskins body shape. (anyone who has seen the pics knows what im talking about)

hehe

Get that dookie stain out ya drawls.... your bathroom looked like it stank!

and fix your nasty a$$ shape.

you look like a damn weeble-wobble

and get that gland removed....


lol

[quote author=*Kails*]yeah it happened a year ago.
everyone seemed to have moved on from it except you.

half clad? bytch please. nothing nuude about them.
and you know it. you say i am obsessed over him but you obsessed over me.

who mentioned WHOM? who has been following WHOM?

any time you see kails/msdarkskin and a thread about somalis you come peeping your fugly azz in the mix trying to get attention.

ladies and gentlemen let explain something about pleep.

this is the same NOBODY who a year ago was getting sonned left and right my myself, chima, royal and other popular members. We had this clown literally running from section to section begging us to leave him alone. a little scandal happen and you want some get back? A YEAR OLD? REALLY THOUGH? lol...somebody soul was slayed...badly!!

all of a sudden this hideous square headed ninja turtle get mouth.

I LAUGH!! this nobody, i don't even see...think of or talk to...can't seem to get over my personal issues much less stay the fck from anywhere i am. i wonder why?[/quote]bla bla bla

old turkey-neckin hoe.

Talk to da hand!

praise be to obatala!

k.

^ that is people like kalis not me.

But you've seen all up in her anus,.... so you know how big that gland is!

^ yall need to focus on growing food first

^ We were born without the gland in our anus that makes us care what your people are called.

buzz off somalian

[size=30pt]OWNED[/size]

somalia9: dude leave kails alone...........she is a cool chick.............and u making it sound like am not black or something.

^ i dont care what race you are. Both of yall are phycho loonies to me