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chloride6:
I was hired less than 6 months ago as a Graduate Engineer, so your argument isnt valid.

Recruiters dont care if you have an Msc, that kind of thinking is dead..

My friend too just got a job with world bank and he has 2.1 from Unilag..

If you cannot pay attention to details, I wonder how you handle your tasks at work.

I stated the basic requirement and explained how competitive Graduate Trainee positions are in IOC . Finally, I mentioned that if a candidate can do better than guys with higher qualification and intimidating skills and certification in the job assessment, then he will be picked.
However, Recruiters care if you have M.SC, you will soon find out as you progress in your career. In some multinationals, you cannot even apply if you don't have an M.SC.
Example: You are the HR Director of Chevron and the candidates below are presented to you, who will you give the job, every other thing being equal.

1. Candidate A: B.SC Industrial Chemistry (2.1) ., M.SC Petroleum Chemistry (Distinction)., Age: 25 years., Final Score: 75%. Has demonstrated problem solving skills by researching on many technical challenges faced by petroleum industries with 4 journal articles in reputable journals.

2. Candidate B: B.SC Industrial Chemistry (2.1)., Age: 25 years., Final Score: 75%

Grace and favour of God is very important but washing down the importance of higher qualification is not right. The issue is not the paper called certificate but the knowledge and skills gained. Right now, I intend getting my PhD because there are many ways I can apply the knowledge I will gain to solve organizational and societal problems. It is not just about acquiring degrees.

chloride6:


So when did I get an Msc ?

My boss doesn't have an Msc, same as most of my team members.

People create false ideas about what goes on in HR in IoC not knowing that companies are looking for a basic intelligence and capacity to deliver which have no correlation to Msc.

Hell, my GM has no Msc

And yes i work in an IoC

When was your GM employed?
When were you employed and for which position?
We are talking about what is obtainable today.
You can be employed in Shell with SSCE but the question is which position?
I am referring to Shell Graduate Trainee recruitment. The basic requirement is B. SC 2:1. However, be rest assured that you will be competing with guys who have intimidating skill and qualifications.
If you can do better than them, congratulations.

DonroxyII:
I hope when I finished up my ICAN, I can have a Multinational too .... I lost a Technical Assistant Job with a Program sponsored by DFID due to lack of MSC.... I was even part of the logistics for the recruitment .... Imagine , I wonder why not me ... Organising CVs and making photocopies this was during my NYSC days .... My fellow colleagues that graduated from Abroad already had their Masters ... They all nabbed the job ... some of us Naija grads were the photocopy dudes and serving tea for the recruitment exercise....

I dusted myself up and heed the call of my folks singing MSC song for me since I graduated ...

I even had to jettisoned UBA job for my own ... Bank and their wahala ... Many people think I dey craze but never again should one be hindered.

Such experience could be painful but thank God you didn't relent.
Opportunities will always come for sure.

AlphaT1:
Lolz. I have two masters and currently running a third. I was in the academia and had one in that line....left academia for occupational safety and got a sponsorship to do another MS in OSH.....now doing one in data science.....reason: I worked on a project 2geda with a dubious data analyst who almost messed up my career in safety auditing and safety systems implementation.

Data Science is the future. I wish I have the opportunity to go for one.

chloride6:
Na you sabi..

It's not an IoC sha

International Oil Company is not for jokers.
Shell may likely employ only 6 people worldwide and you may likely be competing with foreign graduates some of them even have PhD at a young age of 25 years with brain-cracking skills and certifications.
I know a young man that completed a degree in Engineering at 19 years and obtained a Masters degree at 21 years, all in the UK. You will be competing with people like this in IOC.

Walexz02:
It's all assumption brother.
Many for go it to avoid being idle after searching for job with no success

Very soon, getting a lucrative job without M. SC will be damn difficult. If you have the money and the passion, go for it.
Even if you decide to go into business after Master's degree, you will do the business in a different way.

DonroxyII:
Thanks sir.

You are welcome dear
In my very eyes I lost a lecturing position in a Federal monotechnic because I didn't have an M. SC.
I had to buy the form and start immediately. Fortunately, M. SC is compulsory for the job I have now and it is not a lecturing job neither is it a Research position but a Management position in a multinational.
I wouldn't have forgiven myself if I didn't go for my Masters because this job is my dream job.

komodapson:
Do not enrol for that MSc program... I repeat, do not . The only reason you can enrol for that MSc is solely if you desire to become an Academic and follow that career path. So you either secure a job in any of our research institute or as a lecturer in a university...but aside from this, Do not.

You are partially correct.
FG parastatals such as NNPC, DPR now prefer candidates with M. SC. They may not state this as compulsory requirements but in the end, most candidates who would be employed on merit must have M. SC.
Secondly, M. SC is compulsory in some multinationals e. g Nigerian Breweries and Ecobank. Other organizations may follow the trend.
In teaching, especially reputable secondary school an M. Ed. is preferable.
Also important, if you score 75% in a job aptitude test and another candidate with M. SC scores 75%, he will be picked ahead of you. The reason is that, many young graduates leave for more degrees after they have made some money. Employers feel cheated because they spent so much on training you, only for you to resign when they need you most thereby making them to start recruiting and training another candidate to replace you. Therefore, candidates with M. SC will most likely stay longer in the job. This will save them the cost of recruitment.

DonroxyII:
This is it....... ... My sister usually tells me .. You can quickly run home to pick your certificates when the time of need comes but you can never quickly run to school to obtain one when the emergency comes.

Everyone should follow their passion , heart desires and calling ....

Wizkid and Davido meet Blackface and Face in the industry ... head no be same !!

You are wise!

chloride6:
That IoC ask for Msc.

Where I work now, you can't even apply if you don't have a B. SC 2:1 + M. SC in some selected fields.

chloride6:
Stop lying

Which lies?

Ibechris2:
U can succeed I agree but pray ur village people are asleep when u go for that ground breaking interview,if not there is no guarantee.

There is nothing like village people. It is just a figment of your imagination.

Hausaboy239:
Pls can you tell me why u don’t advise someone going for professional masters? Cox i was planning on going for it but due to the situation had to pause,pls shed more light

Professional Masters limits you. The qualification is not acceptable for lecturing/Research positions. You may likely do a project instead of an academic research which is publishable in reputable international journals and presentable in conferences. This is where you meet people that matter in your field.
Good research can qualify you for grant, PhD scholarship etc.
Professional Masters is fast, can be completed in a year but it will limit you.

Please go for your M.SC (not professional masters) if you have the means. Most multinationals and banks recently (I know of Ecobank) now includes M.SC. as requirements for even Trainee positions.
It equally prepares you for opportunities in Academia and international NGOs.
Most importantly, don't go for Masters degree for the purpose of getting a job only but do it with the best of your abilities and learn new skills and ideas in your field.
If you can come up with a ground-breaking research in your field, that alone can take you places.
Yes, in Nigeria you can succeed without connections if you know what you are doing.

yeldey:
This is the OP alternate moniker

Lol!
Because I studied Biochem like him and I insulted a hater of Catholic Church?
Tomorrow now you will apply for position of DSS.
It is OK, kill the OP if you like.

sexylassie2:
they are not exploiting they are paying according to living standards and local salary rates

for example: you dont expect heineken to pay 33k euros equivalent to entry staff in Nigeria when they arent making lot of money here, if they have to pay that to every entry staff in Nigeria, they will close shop.

Please edit your post that still shows the salary breakdown or do you hate this young man.

OlaLiberty:
Done I think.

Not yet sir! Remove everything and send an empty post.
Thank you!

KanuSE:
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Even Bianca will give you a dirty slap for lying on her behalf.

Nonsense and buratai.

FFK is not sure if other men are not sleeping with his wife.
Other men must have uselessed her before he married her.
You should be bothered about that.

CXLVII:
FFK don chop better thing for hin life

The same way other people chop his wife very well before he married her.
For your information, FFK has never seen Bianca pant.

sexylassie2:
But this is more than 8.7 million, you claimed they gave you 8.700.000 but i am guessed you wanted to add more allowances to butress you claim

after calculating the total allowances, it falls at 8,741,541

what does others means, since you didnt want to mention others, so i thought, it must be a different huge allowances which might bring the total package to almost 9.000.000

anyway lot of inconsistencies in your story

Please edit your post so that the OP cannot be traced.
They may not sack him but he may lose trust and good recommendation

OlaLiberty:
Congratulations and greater heights.

Please clear this so that the guy can't be traced.
The world is evil.

Nooil:
Please ma'am, clear what you quoted. Don't cause trouble for the guy.

I support this. Edit your post Ma

Prudency045:
Calm down bro. Not will happen to him or his job. I am not heartless or wicked.

He just needed to be warned and guided to prevent such occurrence going forward.

Celebrate your success with people but don't put out a company's salary breakdown online.

Thank you! At least he obeyed you sir and removed vital information, that is humility.

zedegit:
As long as God is involved; even if catching Coro and dying will make your type to go away. God will intervene.

He won't suffer shame for his goodwill.

Appointment letter is not even a secret document. I work in a multinational too.
You are advised against releasing it to the public for security reasons.
Nobody sacks anybody unless he uploaded a secret document to the public.

Prudency045:
I can see the Op has deleted his account. But you have been fished out already.

I can see you are over excited or naive about your new job that's why you are putting out sensitive information that your colleagues shouldn't even see talkless of the general public.

You have breached the Confidentiality of Information oath you swore to and you will be severely punished for this.

Which labour law are you quoting?
Your lawyer and family members can have access to your appointment letter. It is not a secret document my dear.

Prudency045:
I can see the Op has deleted his account. But you have been fished out already.

I can see you are over excited or naive about your new job that's why you are putting out sensitive information that your colleagues shouldn't even see talkless of the general public.

You have breached the Confidentiality of Information oath you swore to and you will be severely punished for this.

If you are the one that fished him out and you intend punishing him then you are heartless.
You advised him and he followed your advice.
He didn't reveal his name or the name of the organization. Also, he didn't upload any official document.
Why do you think he deserves to be punished?

Cashinflow8:
I pity u....I just pity u
I will stop here.....
How I wish u know the satanic church the call Catholic

You are a fool
No apologies!

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chigoziri2403:
God had already chosen Jacob from his mothers womb, esau could not have gone to plead for forgiveness or that God's choice be overturned
God's words must always come to pass
For his words are A and Amen

What of Hezekiah? Jabez? David?

chronique:
So God allowed you to prophesy so that he can show himself by later reversing it the moment ihedioha comes to meet you? Like God doesn't have work to do and asking ihedioha to come to adoration ministry is his major preoccupation? Now I know why people call some of these pastors derogatory names like idiot, Scammer, fraudster and the likes. Y'all truly manifest the names the heathen call you...lol.

God Almighty is merciful. The prophecy came that Hezekiah would die and he prayed for longevity and God showed him mercy and added more years to him.

Turantula:
Mbaka said if Chimaroke Nnamani wins 2003 reelection, he will derobe himself.
The man is an undignified useful idiot

Do not confuse personal statement with prophecy. Rev. Fr. Mbaka never claimed that the Holy Spirit ministered to him neither was it a prophecy.