₦airaland Forum

headboyprince:
i see where you're driving at? do you think it's easy to earn 1million per month in nigeria. you will need 10 million + capital.

give me a fraction of that money and ill go to the uk. and with minimum wage of over 2k+ i'll outearn you... while having a better quality of life for me and my future kids...
now imagine being employed as a medical doctor over there.

you willl earn 6k+ or 6Million naira per month while you're counter part in nigeria will struggle to earn 150k after being owned months of salary. so tell me why people wont want to japa from nigeria??

As a business man in Nigeria I earn more than that actually into building materials, at the end of all make sure u enjoy your life

2 can play 2.odd you can double it with in 90min

kaymart:
I stumbled upon this...
How has it been?
Would you say it was a good decision to return?

Nigeria problems is also an opportunity, if you know you know

ABEG wetin make we Plumber we dey nigeria do, should I just apply for another plumber apprentice learning so that I can get a certificate I mean in Canada

Treadway:
Niggas are legit making 4-5year plans praying/hoping/expecting that Naija keeps going downhill so the coins they come with will become tens of millions in itself. I do hope and pray if anything else that in 2023-2024 exchange rate goes back to pre 2014 levels of 150 to 1USD or even lower....so I can happily watch all those calculations go to shit .

Bad guy wasere

Davidonkonsults:
Who is forcing or begging you?

Hungry lion

IbeOkehie:
What is your real name? What city do you live in? I'm posting my real name, I'm a pharmacist and I live in Raleigh NC, USA. If indeed you're a plumber please bring your skills here to the USA if you can get the visa, come and earn real money. Plumbers charge $60 just to EVALUATE & DIAGNOSE a problem, no joke. I will be glad to patronize you since I own some apartments and finding maintenance labor can be difficult sometimes. If you actually have the skills to install whole systems you will be a millionaire here within 10 years, guaranteed.

President Buhari and his family have been living in UK & Spain since 1980s. That's a REAL, verified person, a high earning and patriotic Nigerian family. If he has CHOSEN to domicile ALL his children abroad, what you should be doing is taking a deep look into his possible reasoning and asking WHY. Who should I emulate, anonymous YOU or the two-time President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria?

I attended an FGC back in the 1980's. The MAJORITY of my classmates were from the very tip top of upper class Nigeria. Children of Directors & Perm Secs, CBN Governors, Supreme Court Justices, Military Commanders, Governors and so on. These are VERIFIABLE real human beings. The vast majority of them are right here with me in the US/UK. I worked in or attended the same Universities right here in the USA with a couple of President OBJs kids. Do you know Nigeria better than them? Again, who are you?

Abeg let us rest. I moved to that your Nigeria in 2011 and lived there and ran a business. Simply put, Nigeria is uninvestible for very good macroeconomic reasons, that's before talking infrastructure, legal impediments, security, culture and on and on. I've been there and I know what I experienced. Nigeria is a Zoo. I hope and pray � that it will improve but all objective signs indicate worse to come.

Happy Sunday to you all the same!

So I should quit my job and come and sit down with you, will provide job for me everyday and Shey your plumber job will fetch that much every month after tax and after provision I should leave that and come and work hard….

Let everyone do what best for them,

Uniquekriss:
I guess your short of 20k dollars should be up to 8million naira now, keep grinding, try and hangout more, there are so many Nigerians in Canada who are making it.

Na yahoo boys Dey make am

osazsky:
3 years u don save 14m naira u dey complain..the salary of a proffessor is 300 dollars in days...thate 10 dollar per day..mumu come house na..when coming bring white nepa..white hospital..white university.white police station...cuz if u dont u wont survive it and white fuel u cant afford nig fuel

See poverty mindset, here in nigeria I make that just in 5months and am okay, to me what make OP move was peer pressure

AnitaofEurope:
Can you comfortably save 500k in a month in Nigeria ?
I don’t know what is you guys obbession with guys abroad
Why don’t you mother fuckers face torn Nigeria and leave people abroad with their lives alone.
Abi una Dey jealous?
Or pained they left?
Cos i’m Not understanding this obsession about abroad

This babe you always pray bad thing to happen to those of us that decided to stay in nigeria just to justify your japa, naija mentality the moment they travel outta the country you will start seeing them changing names to anitaofeurope,amopeoflondon,Deleofcanada illiterate being.

Been a self employed and around 7years ago I was at a stage to where I hard to choose whether to japa or to start my own business, I chose to start my own business, the business I started 6years ago then fetch me 2-3m savings every month after expenses now am starting to invest in real estate to develop my state.

See everybody cannot japa and everyone cannot be like you running away from you responsibilities….

If nigeria no Favour you just shut the Bleep up, and stop passing your frustrated pay to pay check life on us.

Pease.

jesmond3945:
You people forget in naija, you are your own govt. You literally provide everything that the govt supposed to do for you. Thats why you dont hold them to account. What is 2 million monthly in naija when you are your own security, you provide your own water, food, fuel even road. Common you are still a poor man.

So that why most of you people japa, make government do everything for you, na dem suppose do wedding for you

Hi

The peer pressure currently is just too much, people mentality is that traveling is the best option, my partn er started giving me pressure to move out of the country too at the other end am not seeing that as an achievement I mean she expect me to leave a job I created by myself 6years ago in nigeria that is currently fetching me at least 2-3m monthly to japa, if I do will loose all customers because the job is competitive, and for over 6year now I work from home, lose that kind of job and go to Uk as in what kind of job will fetch me 2-3m monthly savings in the Uk.

Now my partner will be looking at me as an enemy of progress, the skills I have is only plumbing work skills i most do that as a side job in nigeria here I only attend to big job, japa is not for everyone you people should stop looking at it as a big achievement… and stop calculating you earning In naija just to say that you better off over there… we all cannot leave nigeria, after you will be saying if you cannot do it for yourself do it because of your children ABEG and what of my mental health…. Please stop calling NIGERIA shithole

What do you think I should do?

Hybkay:
2.3m monthly And she wants you to japa..did she give any valid reasons why she wants to leave the country? Are you considering leaving? Some junior doctors in UK don't even earn more than 3M in UK with high standard of living. Bro, leave that woman

Consider keh, olohun maje, no she Dey look me as an enemy of progress, she’s saying if I can’t do it for myself I should to it for our kids, ABEG that not a tangible reason for me tho

The peer pressure currently is just too much, people mmentality is that traveling is the best option, my pat er stated giving me pressure to move out of the country too at the other end am not seeing that as an achievement I mean she expect me to leave a job I created by myself 6years ago in nigeria that is currently fetching me at least 2-3m monthly to japa, if I do will loose all customers because the job is competitive, and for over 6year now I work from home, lose that kind of job and go to Uk as in what kind of job will fetch me 2-3m monthly savings in the Uk, the skills I have is only plumbing work skills i most do that as a side job in nigeria here I only attend to big job, japa is not for everyone you people should stop looking at it as a big achievement… and stop calculating you earning In naija just to say that you better off over there… peace ☮️

sukkot:
you can buy 24 hours light. get solar panels and inverter and a gen.

Leave them the problem with them is that Dey depend on government for everything

sukkot:
thats crazy bro. 6 months upfront at 2000 pounds a month is 12000 pounds. thats like 12 million naira

of course i am assuming the person wants a 3 bedroom apartment in london with the price i used lol. but even if its a studio apartment at 800 a month its still like 9 million naira

Western is designed to earn enough and still the system is taking all your earning omoh

pocohantas:
My friend’s sister convinced her husband who has a thriving printing business to pack up and have them relocate. They got there and the guy did it for a while, as usual she was the one schooling. He is in his early 40s. Now the guy said he is not doing again. My friend has started telling me how her sister’s husband is LAZY. This is obviously what the sister is telling her. Tell me how a family would withstand this pressure. These are the issues that sometimes leads to separation/divorce amongst Nigerians there. Not like we are so bad or doing the worst.

Am having this same issue, my wife and her mum are now looking at me like I be enemy of progress, as a man you have to think twice even 10times no let money finish for your hand

Itsrm:
Lmao, numbskull.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/10/just-in-99-4-of-bank-accounts-contain-less-than-n500000-ndic/amp/

Maybe these people earning 300k a month keep the money on your bald head

Media’s are liars

IbeOkehie:
I don't CLAIM to live in the USA. I'm posting with my real name so no CLAIM there. And you are trying to discourage potential migrants.

Nigeria today is a terrible country to live or visit. That's for the vast majority of people, including the very rich. That's not gullibility
it's reality. I know people in the oil & gas industry in Nigeria earning THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER DAY and many have pulled up and left Nigeria and more are planning to do so right now. That's the facts.

There's nothing to argue about. I moved back to Nigeria after many years abroad. I owned a business, I lived well, a luxurious life amid terrible poverty. Riding in my SUV and seeing dead bodies lying on the road for WEEKS. People always begging and badgering me for money. Passing through Airport VIP Lounges with dirty, flooded toilets. Live in a big house where the servants and personal staff are a constant threat because of the sheer income disparity that provokes envy. That's not a country, that's hell.

Statistics is reality. Add up all the gun violence in the USA and I still feel safer here than in Nigeria. I've lived in Baltimore - one of the most violent cities in the USA - and I felt safer there than in Magodo Estate Lagos. This translates to my life expectancy, I'm likely to live longer in the USA than in Nigeria.

Anyway I always tell people that every bad thing that happens in Nigeria also happens in the USA or UK, the difference is the response of the government and civil society. That's the more important aspect of the whole thing. The PUBLIC or GOVERNMENT RESPONSE to adverse events is what instills confidence and that is where Nigeria fails totally. Today in the USA you find police still arresting murderers 30 years after the crime was committed! Get killed or robbed in Nigeria and NOTHING is done. Give it a month and it's forgotten, the bereaved are left to cope with the agony of justice denied in what is supposed to be a country with laws and government.

I repeat - most Nigerians, rich or poor, will have a better standard of living in Anglo Western countries than in Nigeria. I started from ZERO with an illegal job and I made it to the middle class and ANYONE even illegal immigrants are still doing it today. Compared to Nigeria TODAY, for the average person yes the Anglo West is and has always been close to paradise.

My message to Nigerians is to get out of that country if you can. Think about it, President Buhari in 1984 was preaching to Nigerians not to migrate abroad and AT THE SAME TIME all his children were living in Spain and the UK. That is the summary of the situation, don't be a MUGU, your President and his family have lived their lives in the UK and yet he tells you to be proud of Nigeria.

When President Biden moves to Nigeria that will be a signal that things are getting bad here. Until then I'm enjoying my 4th Class citizenship in this heaven. Life is too short abeg, to each his own.

Have a good day!

So make everybody comot for naija abi?
That is be heavy

Western country na your papa land

ariesbull:
oga at that stage they can't go back home... They have crossed thag red line! Dem Don snap picture for Facebook for snow saying dem Don land and make mouth.. I

Those Africans cleaning rail station can't afford air ticket home

I saw one guy at Dubai he was a gateman in a supermarket.. I know he was a Nigerian and he pretended that he wasn't.. I was forced to speak pidgin to him... I tell am oga.. This work wey u dey do no fit afford you ticket home.....that guy don hang for Dubai


The best thing... Abroad is good pooh but have solid plan and solid career path..

All these Uber driving, grocery manager jobs and hospice work no be am at all...

If you aren't a lecturer, doctor, maybe.. I said maybe nurse or IT guy.. Dude forget it. Just find business and do. Get a trusted guy in Naija be sending products like laptops, car parts (not cars poop) parts and other things like phones, clothes and other things that is when you make it

But Doing a fa tory job and two jobs a day... Forget it

What of plumber

Lotechi:
How is that a miserable existence? I save more than half of my monthly income, I drive a brand new 2021 Toyota RAV4 hybrid SUV, I live in a four bedroom house with just my girlfriend, I eat what I like, I go on regular vacation, I send about 250k to Naija monthly to support my folks, I wear designers like Michael Kors, I use the latest IPhone, I have constant light and water supply, I have not encountered police in like 3yrs, and I can go on and on. Bro, this is the dream, and I am living it.

This one na GEE boy

mokset123:
l love your honesty and openness, it would go a long way in helping us understand the responsibilities ahead, my question is how come your rent remained same for both one bedroom flat and 3 bedroom flat and you did not state money spent on food and clothing

May God bless you for this question

Munamoqel:
Hi business minded people of Nairaland. I am a diasporan Nigerian and to be honest am tired of this UK and am thinking home now. I have a plan to come and invest in pharmaceutical retail business.
Am not a pharmacist, my plan is to employ a pharmacist that will run it while I supervise the day to day activities. Am thinking of starting it next year after the election. Set it up and go back to UK to finalize my final exit by Dec next yr. Am looking for location along Lekki Epe Exp or Ibadan Oyo State for now. Am hoping to make it a chain of pharma Stores
in futur

Come to ogun state

GeneralShepherd:
Have you ever heard of Saudi Arabia or Kuwait? Foreign oil and gas worker get all these things plus safety. You dont know anything about oil and gas oga.

Also why would you need a body guard when America is 10x safer than Nigeria?

Don’t compare nigeria to any other country and stop looking for excuses to remain in country that tax will always take away all your money…

You can’t just expect us to be living okay and earn huge in nigeria and you expect to leave that to japa to a country that I will be working very hard to eat everyday.

Deep down you know nigeria is a great country for business and even work. Despite the kidnapping and insecurity people are still living okay, stop calling nigeria shithole

Emmaxy9:
Sorry to to say but this is a poverty mindset. You're one of the folks who believe that success or extreme wealth is gotten only through fraud and not through hardwork.

The same abroad you're talking about, there are young people, even less than 25 years, making good money, and buying houses. I know a 25 year old man who stays at Dubai and makes millions of dollars through information marketing. Change your mindset tho

Forget na GEE, na agba loader

LyfeJennings:
Pele o
Baba Londoner

Ask the google
Alaye, I never go there but got a woman and half of my family there so I know what I say
iGoing by all this nigga wrote
Dem don shook am.
Who calls his spouse 15times

Am 100% sure no be small shook egbon walai talai

kbower:
Bro the emboldened makes your statement right, and words on Marble, I have spent over 27 million naira on the japa process, and still have more to spend ahead. It is indeed a sacrifice, but bro, she nor even send or appreciate anything, but me nor send cos na the children be the koko. Infact the agent that arranged everything duped me of 3k pounds, I arrested him, going from the station to and fro, only for madam to be expressing sympathy towards the guy that he feels pity for him that hes arrested, but
what about me that spent the money and stressing out to arrest the guy and going to and fro? Am i not human, am I not to be the one in the position of being sympathetic towards?

Where una Dey waste money (27m) to look for greener pastures money that is up to set up a business the problem is most of you people moving out of nigeria don’t have a business here in nigeria or property to generate more income after una go take say naija na shithole

kbower:
Hi Nlanders

We all know no marriage is all that smooth and rosey, we all that are in it have challenges here and there, and for almost 11 years now, out of tolerance, ruggedity, minding my business in terms of taking care of the family have always been something that has held my marriage down, because the majority of the issue I have with my wife have always been issues of trust, transparency, accountability, respect and loyalty.

Some people will say with these things I have listed, that I may be asking for too much, but I can tell whoever would reason that way that it's not too much because am a responsible father/husband that have never for once strayed the family in anyway that will make me lack any of the above stated qualities a man can enjoy from a wife.

Why am I here? Ok.. After enduring so much for 11 years, we are relocating to the UK, she is the main applicant, myself and the 3 children are dependants, she traveled first, leaving myself and the 3 kids behind until she can secure accommodation b4 we leave.

I have heard about countless incidences of how SOME women treat their husbands and the POWER zoned to women in that country which makes it almost impossible for a man with a wife that gives him constant problem to be able to thrive in that country.

I just want to state three peculiar incidences that occured during her 1month stay over there that is already making me feel I have alot to face over there, though I know my God is bigger than anything, I just want people that are over there, or people that are experienced here and all over who are capable of handing a good advise for me on getting there to know how I can fare and withstand what is to come.

Based on the above from the major incidences I have experienced with her, first two weeks of being there, she had gone to check a house b4 heading to school, on her way back to school, she claimed she didn't take enough money and going back home might not be possible, I asked how she would wanna go about it
and she replied saying I will borrow money from Mr Mike, a man she just met at school on her first day of registration. I was like that's wrong, you don't form familiarity with someone you just met in another man's country, I said I will call a friend in liverpool to send you money and you could get your train ticket. She fumed, but I stood my ground and said that's how its going to be. I have asked her to collect a friends account details, since she has not opened an account yet, she said when her class finishes by 8.30pm she'll request details from her friend so the money can be sent. Fast forward to closing period, I messaged her to send me details, she ignored, I called ad she said nobody has an account that I should not worry she will sort herself, I was now like you just got to that country, u have no friends that u know too well to rely on, I am ur hubby and I opened a way for u to get money easily, yet u didn't make any effort to redeem the opportunity, omo she hung up on me then later called back that she gathered few pennies she had to get the ticket, I was now like why didn't u just say this instead of putting me on pressure over how to get money to convey u all the way from london to Luton, over an hour journey at night.

Secondly, on her next school day, she had previously told me prior to her closing hours that her data has finished and she's using schools wifi, that the moment she steps out from school to head home, she won't be having access to internet, etc WhatsApp and all of that, but importantly was to make use of GPS google map, that's what people over there use to navigate their way in order not to get lost, I was like without internet how do u intend to get to ur destination when u know how stressful it was for u getting lost the other day, now the same statement she made was, I will sort myself. I was raged and said woman I will ask my friend to buy u data so u can get home easy and safe, she said no proble, that she's leaving now, I said well since i wont be able to reach you on whats app, I will definitely call you on normal call shortly to give you the data pin to load. She said no P and hung up.

Moments later, my friend had sent me the data pin, na so I begin dey call wifey oo, over 15 missed calls she nor pick. Later she called back and said her phone was in her laptop bag and her hands were frozen so she couldnt put hands in the bag to pick the call and that she didn't even hear it ring.

The issue I posted up there are issues of not being accountable, and attitude of not showing that you don't need me when its not just about that but for security and your well being knowing fully well you are new in the country and proper guidelines needs to be taken.

Another incident happened 3rd week after her arrival, we were video chatting while she was on a train station waiting for train, next thing I noticed was a guy sitting BEHIND her, the guy boldly took a peep into her phone directly, seemingly trying to see who she was on video call with, immediately i called her attention to it, she just smiled and looked back and said silently, nawa some people for this London nor go mind their business. This very day developed a story that transitioned towards few things I will be stating.

The next sunday, I called her in the morin to say hi and all that, next thing I know she dun dey go church, she nor even discuss am with me and na wetin we dn agree on sey we fo jointly choose church wey we go dey go. After church service, she call me sey that guy wey i talk sey dey peep into her phone, sey the guy that very day asked her how long shes been there for, she said, just 3 weeks, sey how come she come take know road when him don dey 3months he nver know road, sey that same guy him coincidentally meet am for the new church wey she come so, sey the guy dey look am, she comot eye, but later the guy come meet am sey are u not the one that showed me way to where I was going. Sey as him meet the guy coincidentally for church, he fit be sey he get why, maybe for job connection or what not. I nor say anything, cos coincidences arent something new in this world. Then the next day, she call me sey that same guy needs an apartment, sey na married guy with 4 kids, but him wife and 1kid dey here, 3 dey nija them nor fit come yet until house is ready, sey him dey ask her if she can help him get someone that can reference for him to get a house, ha him my wife come dey ginger me sey make i help am talk to my friend wey help us reference if him go fit help the guy too. I come sey no problem, she sey she go call the guy now and put us on 3 way call, i sey no p, i come dey wait for call, no call come and madam nor talk again, i come ring her sey hafa u nor do the three way call again? She sey the guy dey work, him nor fit talk,sey she don give the guy my number to call me later, me come sey no p, send him number I go save am down so if he calls i go know sey na him, madam nor gree send number, I come dey wonder sey wetin dey sup sef, normally I nor spose reason ahead, but me my instict dey very strong, i come begin dey put two and two together sey maybe the guy intention was never to get help but to use style dey hit on my madam maybe na why him nor wan talk to me but wan use my madam dey take communicate.

I come ask madam some some questions on previous ish, I come find out sey small lie dey, so I tackler her sey the way she take explain to me about how him meet the guy for train station nor join, she come vex sey me i come am liar, omo as we dey talk for whatsapp, i nor blv sey my madam added this guy to the call without my consent or my knowledge, so as I dey talk, the guy dey the background, i nor even know anything and the dude himself kept quiet, na after the call finish, I see am for call details sey the guy was added to the call, infact the dude even called me directky i nor pick. Now i got very angry, come call madam sey wetin dey sup, u added this dude wey talk sey him dey work him nor fit talk to the call wey me and u dey on and u didnt even notify me, ok lets agree sey if to sey u wan tell me sey u wan add the guy for call sey i nor go gree sey maybe na why u add am without my consent, at least after u add am secretly, u are suppose to talk and sey bae, since u are accusing me wrongly.

I have added the guy to this call so he can clear me out, but she didnt, she just added the guy and the dude himself kept quiet and didnt say a word until I hung up. I got very furious and told her this is the highest level of see finish and dragging in the mud, wetin u want that guy to dey feel like now? She said shes sorry that she only wanted to clear herself, I was now like even if u wanted to clear urself, if that the best way to go about it, the person who is the subject matter is the best person u need to introduce to clear u out? Later on i just bone the matter come apologise sey make we move on, na so she come begin dey yarn plenty, sey she call the guy that my hubby said that the way we met is unreal, sey the guy sef come talk sey wow, so your husband already thinks am sleeping with you, but i cant blame u though, u know u have a big back side, so thoughts like that from him is likely not a surprise, i was hmmmm to hear that, i come tell madam sey if na true this guy talk this thing, shouldnt u already know he has corny itentions, she said well she too dey wonder cos the two times wey them meet she nor wear wetin fit show her bkside so how d guy come take know. The matter end there, next day madam still dey worry me sey shey I go still help d guy, I was like I cant even talk to him, u dun useless me already for him presence, she dey claim sey she nor do anything wrong by adding him to the call, sey the guy know of agency wey fit help me get better job if i arrive, and sey the guy talk sey if me fit connect am to my friend to reference am for house, him go link me up fr the agency. I talk sey i nor dey interested. Omo I weak. Guys I need advise on how to handle issues over there, cos me nor dey take nonsense for nija here, but for there, one needs to chill, but then should it now be sey because we dey live for country wey give woman power, make woman come use that opportunity come dey fumble?

To my own observation, you will regret your action to japa with that kind of woman, to me she’s just using to get over there, she just Dey show you the real pepper and the bigger side is coming?. Pray sha

Sarsam:
Invest the money in pineapple farming and in two years time, profit will not be less than 200%

What of pawpaw

Originalsly:
From the write up ... you considering leaving because your friends want you to... not because you want to ... it was never your idea ... that's called peer pressure. The decision will be yours ... but the idea wasn't. At this point .. you want to leave to please others ... want to do something that your heart is not into it. ... but now looking for reasons to justify the action.Why abandon your business plan ... your vision? What vision are they selling you? Japa ... then what? ... live in hope?

My advice ... stay. Reasons. Papers is a must ... not that you can't survive without papers ... millions do .... but you will be shut out of soooo many opportunities. Forget P2P ( for this discussion).....plumbing skill is scarce. With development projects in the country... high rises and modern buildings under construction ... buildings need to be maintained ... where are the capable plumbers to be found? You even said you only do some big jobs ... picking and choosing ... and I'm sure you charge an arm and a leg... and they have to pay because they don't have an alternative. You really think you want to give up this life to go abroad and live as a fugitive?... when at any moment you can be detained and deported?
Travel bro... go visit abroad ... spend some time... get some first hand experience ... be exposed and have new ideas to establish your business dream . After all ... the decision will be yours.

Thanks for the advice

lymelyte:
my broda don't mind these ppl..the smart one will pick a thing or two while the foolish ones will open their stinky mouth and shout it's a scam.. I am very much into p2p too although not in 9ja but I can confirm and co-sign that the profit margin is huge..✅ facts#

Thanks

Hello

Please I need an advices on what physical business I can do on road Side (plot of land) commercial with a sum of 20m?

Please I will appreciate if you give your advice in full details..