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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by Adakintroy: 10:20pm On Jun 08, 2021
Na so you take de know real prophets.


Angels and Satan content for their body. As it was with the prophet Moses.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:21pm On Jun 08, 2021
zcee:
if you tell people this,they won't even go after the message they will go after you definitely..

These pastors all know themselves and secrets


I agree. I can handle the fight.

They also know me as well. I'm still standing after in a battle took out one of their highest ranking member.

So. No issues.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by Kobojunkie: 10:22pm On Jun 08, 2021
mrkings84:
I am the last person who try to judge any pastor in as much as I don't know what they are into. But may this be known, as Christ puts it ' And I will build my church and the gates of hell with not prevail"

If TB Joshua was real, and his church belonged to God, the church will still move forward cos The owner (Jesus) is alive but if otherwise, then Synagogue is a history!!!
Jesus Christ said He(Jesus Christ) will build His(Jesus Christ's) Church on this rock(Righteousness) and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it(Jesus Christ's Church). undecided

Joshua's church, on the other hand, is registered and belongs to Joshua and all the other men that have a stake in it. It should not in anyway be confused with Jesus Christ's church. which is not of man-made structures and not of this world. undecided

As for judgement, God already condemned those who will be false Teachers and false prophets from more than 2000 years ago. In the parable of the wheat and Tares, you will note, that the evil tares(lies) are known from even when they were planted and judged from even before they are ready to be harvested. undecided

Jesus Christ judged all false Teacher and prophets declaring even the end that awaited them all already. He taught you to KNOW them, so unless you are suggesting Jesus Christ did not do a good enough Job in His attempt to teach you of those to avoid, it is best you evaluate your stance instead where the Truth of God is concerned. undecided

With God, either you are ALL IN, or you are ALL OUT - there is no in between. undecided
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by JimloveTM(m): 10:24pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



You seem like a young Christian

Go and research on this word

SANGOMA

you'll find the answers you seek as you search

Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:27pm On Jun 08, 2021
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Is it people I've worked with closely on first hand basis and know their dos and don't behind the scene you want to educate me about.


Let me ask you a question. Why do they sleep with women who come to them for counselling right before holding services?
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:29pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:




God Bless you my brother.

Hey GreenFarmsNG, are you a Christian? If yes, do you believe there are real men of God?
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:31pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:


Hey GreenFarmsNG, are you a Christian? If yes, do you believe there are real men of God?


Why not. Is Apostle Okikijesu not a True man of God. Is Apostolic Church not filled with many anointed men and women of God.


Occultic people should leave the Christendom alone for us simple as ABC.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by deleo16(m): 10:33pm On Jun 08, 2021
My take if you as a Christian ALWAYS know fake MOG everytime and you havent for ONCE show or point to original once that is your Christianity is FAKE too its SIMPLE if the apostolic ministry (apostle PAUL) is not seen in this generation then Christianity this era is FAIRYTALE in this generation .
Thank God for these verse Mark 16:17
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by frankson1(m): 10:33pm On Jun 08, 2021
jimmychang:



They never accepted him...Oristejafor and the rest



I guess it's the reason for their continuous silence and this is about issues Okotie raised.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by RexTramadol1: 10:33pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:


May you be the victim of a false prophet to experience it first hand



And you’re a Christian




You are no better than a false prophet
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:39pm On Jun 08, 2021
frankson1:




I guess it's the reason for their continuous silence and this is about issues Okotie raised.


Omoto has been hammering about it alongside Oritsejafor since as far back as 1999. I followed up in all of the backs and forth that lead him to leave to Ghana for practice before returning here.


Okotie kept at it stating it clearly with scriptural and biblical backups. He never for once ever tried to respond, comment, defend or fight back.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:40pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



Why not. Is Apostle Okikijesu not a True man of God. Is Apostolic Church not filled with many anointed men and women of God.


Occultic people should leave the Christendom alone for us simple as ABC.

Do you believe in miracles, as in do you believe God can perform miracles today?

Why do you guys always think whenever a man of God does miracles he is not of God? Yes there are false prophets but there are also true ones.

You guys make it seem like anyone into deliverance ministry is fake.

In today’s world, I’m sure Prophet Elijah who commanded fire from heaven would be also be called a false prophet by you. You’ll call him a magician I’m sure of that.

Moreover, even Jesus was called a false prophet so who I’m i to stop you.

Trust me you’ll understand, I only hope it isn’t too late before you realize it.

You even called prophet Jeremiah fake too, lol. It takes the spirit of a prophet to know a prophet.

May God forgive us and help us to attain heaven. Amen
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by Kobojunkie: 10:41pm On Jun 08, 2021
deleo16:
My take if you as a Christian ALWAYS know fake MOG everytime and you havent for ONCE show or point to original once that is your Christianity is FAKE too its SIMPLE
1. In the Kingdom of God, there are no men or women of God. There are only children of God and Jesus Christ is the first born of them all. undecided

2. In the Kingdom of God, it is a sin against God for anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ to sit as
* Teacher - Matthew 23 vs 7
* Shepherd - John 10 vs 7 - 16
* Father - Matthew 23 vs 9
* Helper - John 14 vs 23 -31
* Counselor
* Comforter
* Leader/authority - Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28
* Master - Matthew 23 vs 10
... over any of the offer followers of Jesus Christ. Only God(even through Jesus Christ and His Spirit) occupies that position in the lives of those who belong to Him. undecided

3. In the Kingdom of God, every child of God is a defacto prophet since we all have the Spirit of Truth and speak the Truth and Word of God(Jesus Christ) living as Helper inside of us all. So there are no Old Covenant type "anointings" or prophets in the Kingdom of God. undecided

I can go on but the gist is this information is available to you right there in the Gospels where the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, are written for you to learn the Truth of God for yourself. undecided

There is absolutely no reason to walk in ignorance of a Truth that has been available for over 2000 years to all including you. undecided

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:42pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:


Do you believe in miracles, as in do you believe God can perform miracles today?

Why do you guys always think whenever a man of God does miracles he is not of God? Yes there are false prophets but there are also true ones.

You guys make it seem like anyone into deliverance ministry is fake.

In today’s world, I’m sure Prophet Elijah who commanded fire from heaven would be also be called a false prophet by you. You’ll call him a magician I’m sure of that.

Moreover, even Jesus was called a false prophet so who I’m i to stop you.

Trust me you’ll understand, I only hope it isn’t too late before you realize it.

You even called prophet Jeremiah fake too, lol. It takes the spirit of a prophet to know a prophet.

May God forgive us and help us to attain heaven. Amen




Sorcery isn't miracle.


Have you seen Pastor Madubuoko preached and them miracles happen, do you see gimmicks why the miracles take place?


Why do they sleep with members who come for counselling right before service. Why?


Leave spiritual matters for spiritual adults.


I know up to 20 ladies they have had sex within their serial spiritual orgy right before services... And why they do this...
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:43pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



Is it people I've worked with closely on first hand basis and know their dos and don't behind the scene you want to educate me about.


Let me ask you a question. Why do they sleep with women who come to them for counselling right before holding services?

Were you there, don’t be gullible. Those are hear says, you remind me of the Pharisees, that isn’t my concern anyway. He, TB Joshua is with the lord, straight ticket to heaven, that one sure 100%
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:44pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:


Were you there, don’t be gullible. Those are hear days, you remind me of the Pharisees, that isn’t my concern anyway. He, TB Joshua is with the lord, straight ticket to heaven, that one sure 100%


I've worked with them behind the door. On one on one basis and had my guy who stayed with them for some years to know well. Enough their lifestyle into their bedroom
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by frankson1(m): 10:45pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



Omoto has been hammering about it alongside Oritsejafor since as far back as 1999. I followed up in all of the backs and forth that lead him to leave to Ghana for practice before returning here.


Okotie kept at it stating it clearly with scriptural and biblical backups. He never for once ever tried to respond, comment, defend or fight back.



Ok. I thought it was just that Okotie was on the necks of Joshua and Oyakhilome, didn't know they were others.

Was he supposed to try to defend himself. I still think he did the right by not responding at all.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by zoedew: 10:45pm On Jun 08, 2021
Xscape1993:
Only God have the final judgement and not men.
By their fruits you shall know them! You don’t need God’s judgment to know not to put your finger into fire!
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:45pm On Jun 08, 2021
deleo16:
My take if you as a Christian ALWAYS know fake MOG everytime and you havent for ONCE show or point to original once that is your Christianity is FAKE too its SIMPLE if the apostolic ministry (apostle PAUL) is not seen in this generation then Christianity this era is FAIRYTALE in this generation

Exactly, they always call deliverance ministries fake. It means they don’t believe all the miracles mentioned in the Bible.

If Moses who parted the Red Sea and Elijah who commanded fire from heaven were in this generation, they’ll call them fake too.

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by djon78(m): 10:45pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



I know these. It's good you posted this. Thus is exactly the situation. The devil disguises himself as an angel of light.

The true test of a man is concerning money!!!!

When the devil tempted Jesus, he showed him the kingdoms of this world and there riches and told Jesus to bow to him to get these wealth

Many ministers of God today have been taken over by the spirit of Mammon (money)

Many of these big Churches are not known in heaven

When the rich ruler came to Jesus what did Jesus tell him; sell all you have, give it to the poor and come and follow me

Jesus warned about the deceitfulness of riches
Nothing deceives a man like riches

Google old prophets like A W Tozer
During his life time he shunned riches and filthy lucre
Because he knew nothing deceives a man like riches

Recently
I rearly listen to Nigerian preachers
Because my spirit gives me witness that many have compromised

Jesus said that a man's life does not consistent in the abundance of things he possess

Riches, wealth are meant to solve the problem of humanity

Even the silicon valley American billionaires with there extremely wealth still lives very modestly and use many of there wealth to solve problems in the world

That's what God designed wealth for
Not to be living luxurious and flamboyant lives while many around the world go to bed hungry


Anyway the last day of judgement will be a shocker

Many you thought that will be on the right side will be on the wrong side

While many that men condem and judge on the Earth will be in God's kingdom

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Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by zoedew: 10:46pm On Jun 08, 2021
CardiNice:
The death of prophet TB Joshua has certified my suspicion of many years that big and popular pastors especially the non prophets, don't like TB Joshua.

There is a divided ship in Nigeria when it comes to NIGERIA pastors, if you look at it very well, there are those that are for TB JOSHUA and those that are for the other G,O of another ministry, but i won't mention any name of G,O on this thread.

I've realised that the men of GOD that have paid tribute to TB Joshua are all prohets of GOD.

Up till now, no words of tribute from the Christian bodies of Nigeria. The famous and popular G,O of big Nigeria ministries are quiet.
But men and women of GOD from other different countries from Africa and the world are all paying their tributes and even crying on television because of the calling home of TB Joshua.

I know the award giving to him by the presidency of Goodluck Jonathan many years ago will fuel jealousy from other Nigeria men of GOD.

So below is a well documented YouTube video to prove that many pastors in Nigeria were jealous of TB Joshua.
They even disliked him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXxI6S3Wn4E

You clearly don’t know what you are talking about! Read this -https://tbjoshuawatch.files./2011/08/deception-agomoh-article.pdf
https://youtube.com/watch?v=J-aU2v7aDgw&feature=share
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by Kobojunkie: 10:47pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:

Exactly, they always call deliverance ministries fake. It means they don’t believe all the miracles mentioned in the Bible.

If Moses who parted the Red Sea and Elijah who commanded fire from heaven were in this generation, they’ll call them fake too.
1. In the Kingdom of God, there are no men or women of God. There are only children of God and Jesus Christ is the first born of them all. undecided

2. In the Kingdom of God, it is a sin against God for anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ to sit as
* Teacher - Matthew 23 vs 7
* Shepherd - John 10 vs 7 - 16
* Father - Matthew 23 vs 9
* Helper - John 14 vs 23 -31
* Counselor
* Comforter
* Leader/authority - Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28
* Master - Matthew 23 vs 10
... over any of the offer followers of Jesus Christ. Only God(even through Jesus Christ and His Spirit) occupies that position in the lives of those who belong to Him. undecided

3. In the Kingdom of God, every child of God is a defacto prophet since we all have the Spirit of Truth and speak the Truth and Word of God(Jesus Christ) living as Helper inside of us all. So there are no Old Covenant type "anointings" or prophets in the Kingdom of God. undecided

I can go on but the gist is this information is available to you right there in the Gospels where the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, are written for you to learn the Truth of God for yourself. undecided

There is absolutely no reason to walk in ignorance of a Truth that has been available for over 2000 years to all including you. undecided
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:47pm On Jun 08, 2021
frankson1:

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Ok. I thought it was just that Okotie was on the necks of Joshua and Oyakhilome, didn't know they were others.

Was he supposed to try to defend himself. I still think he did the right by not responding at all.


Okotie preached and exposed the source of His power first alongside Oritsejaor as far back as 1999 and before. But because only few people had advance to know these things spiritually, it didn't gather much people behind it.


It's even now more people are being exposed to these truths. Notice after Oyakhilome had contact with him once, he disconnected and there wasn't any form of interaction again. Meaning he had done some research on information communicated to. Him
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:49pm On Jun 08, 2021
djon78:


The true test of a man is concerning money!!!!

When the devil tempted Jesus, he showed him the kingdoms of this world and there riches and told Jesus to bow to him to get these wealth

Many ministers of God today have been taken over by the spirit of Mammon (money)

Many of these big Churches are not known in heaven

When the rich ruler came to Jesus what did Jesus tell him; sell all you have, give it to the poor and come and follow me

Jesus warned about the deceitfulness of riches
Nothing deceives a man like riches

Google old prophets like A W Tozer
During his life time he shunned riches and filthy lucre
Because he knew nothing deceives a man like riches

Recently
I rearly listen to Nigerian preachers
Because my spirit gives me witness that many have compromised

Jesus said that a man's life does not consistent in the abundance of things he possess

Riches, wealth are meant to solve the problem of humanity

Even the silicon valley American billionaires with there extremely wealth still lives very modestly and use many of there wealth to solve problems in the world

That's what God designed wealth for
Not to be living luxurious and flamboyant lives while many around the world go to bed hungry


Anyway the last day of judgement will be a shocker

Many you thought that will be on the right side will be on the wrong side

While many that men condem and judge on the Earth will be in God's kingdom



God will bless you my brother. I was discussing this with my inner man just today. I listened to a new age regular pastor and I spoke my head in shame when I listened to him. Even the young ones coming behind are corrupted. Can we ever get teachings asides when I donated my 16 Million Naira car. Isn't there more to God than this watery information?


Back in the days, when you hear Reverend Tunde Jordan, Frederick KC Price, Rick Jones, Cindy Jacobs, Joyce Meyer, It has nothing but pure revelation. These days when I donated my 5 Million. What do we teach to people who are hopeless to become enlivened in their spirits and run with revelation. I'm angry with.. God help the kingdom. Many have derailed.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:51pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



I've worked with them behind the door. On one on one basis and had my guy who stayed with them for some years to know well. Enough their lifestyle into their bedroom

You see again, “your guy told you”. Hear say, it clearly shows you don’t believe in miracles. People have their callings, evangelists, preachers, prophets, and apostles.

You are clearly used to evangelists and preachers and not prophets and apostles who are more into deliverance and prophetic ministries and the deep things of God.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:52pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:


You see again, “your guy told you”. Hear say, it clearly shows you don’t believe in miracles. People have their callings, evangelists, preachers, prophets, and apostles.

You are clearly used to evangelists and preachers and not prophets and apostles who are more into deliverance and prophetic ministries and the deep things of God.



My guy was entrapped. I was the one who removed him. He too was already held captive.


Please let me be. I've said it that I worked with them behind the stage on one on one basis to know them and all these things personally.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:54pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:



Okotie preached and exposed the source of His power first alongside Oritsejaor as far back as 1999 and before. But because only few people had advance to know these things spiritually, it didn't gather much people behind it.


It's even now more people are being exposed to these truths. Notice after Oyakhilome had contact with him once, he disconnected and there wasn't any form of interaction again. Meaning he had done some research on information communicated to. Him

People criticize what they don’t understand. Whenever you guys see something beyond your knowledge, you try to destroy it.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by SimpleGuy001: 10:54pm On Jun 08, 2021
Kobojunkie:
1. In the Kingdom of God, there are no men or women of God. There are only children of God and Jesus Christ is the first born of them all. undecided

2. In the Kingdom of God, it is a sin against God for anyone who belongs to Jesus Christ to sit as
* Teacher - Matthew 23 vs 7
* Shepherd - John 10 vs 7 - 16
* Father - Matthew 23 vs 9
* Helper - John 14 vs 23 -31
* Counselor
* Comforter
* Leader/authority - Matthew 20 vs 24 - 28
* Master - Matthew 23 vs 10
... over any of the offer followers of Jesus Christ. Only God(even through Jesus Christ and His Spirit) occupies that position in the lives of those who belong to Him. undecided

3. In the Kingdom of God, every child of God is a defacto prophet since we all have the Spirit of Truth and speak the Truth and Word of God(Jesus Christ) living as Helper inside of us all. So there are no Old Covenant type "anointings" or prophets in the Kingdom of God. undecided

I can go on but the gist is this information is available to you right there in the Gospels where the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, are written for you to learn the Truth of God for yourself. undecided

There is absolutely no reason to walk in ignorance of a Truth that has been available for over 2000 years to all including you. undecided
People criticize what they don’t understand. Whenever you guys see something beyond your knowledge, you try to destroy it.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by nwajesus12(m): 10:54pm On Jun 08, 2021
IPIGSRMUMUS:



Your empty skull has been filled with TRASH.
Hey take your TRASHY brain and get lost.
I know you don't have brain, that's why you are pained, ode
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by GreenFarmsNG: 10:55pm On Jun 08, 2021
SimpleGuy001:


People criticize what they don’t understand. Whenever you guys see something beyond your knowledge, you try to destroy it.



I see you are a messenger and doing the work of your father's. For your information, I'm a prophet of over 25 years. Maintain your Lane
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by Seun360(m): 10:55pm On Jun 08, 2021
GreenFarmsNG:
Magician/Sorcerer and Ministers aren't the same thing.


They are sorcerers and magicians. To. Find out more check out secrets of many of these new age satanists disguising themselves as prophets below



https://babylon-today.com/2018/12/17/the-secret-evil-life-of-occultist-tb-joshua-finally-exposed/


Other popular new age satanists


Jeremiah Omoto Fufeyin

Chris Okafor

Passion Java

Shepherd Bushiri

Owusu Bempah

Joshua Iginla

Emmanuel Esesebor


CURRENTLY ONE OF THE TOP FIVE HIGHEST RANKING SATANISTS THE ONE WHO RECRUITS PASTORS AND CONVERTS THEM INTO SORCERY IS NONE OTHER THAN

" UBERT ANGEL " AND HIS CLOSEST ALLY AND TRAINEE IS SHERPERD BUSHIRI




Traditional healers using sorcery and false spirits arent ministers let alone prophets.

They go through 15/20 years to learn occultism sangoma in which is known as THE CHIEF PRIEST OF THE DEVIL.

Then open a ministry in the name of God, using diabolical powers, sorcery, false spirits to carry out miracles. These demons they work with then give them to information which is disguised as prophecy.

Nonsense.
Re: Popular Nigerian Pastors Never Liked TB Joshua by segun82(m): 10:56pm On Jun 08, 2021
Of course they never liked T.B Joshua because he was no pastor. He used to lie on God’s head and say God said this or that, and the bible says if a prophet says God said and it doesn’t come to pass, that prophet is false and a deceiver. This man predicted that one heavy rain would fall and wash away the coronavirus pandemic in a matter of days, he even gave the date, of course nothing happened. He said Clinton would win the 2016 election but Trump won. The dude was using fraudsters and paid actors to act miracles, and was probably mixing that with occultic practices. As for the Angela woman in the video, she should STFU! Most of the so called prophets in Nigeria are fraudsters and occult members, their prophecies always fail, and that’s why some of the big pastors shun them.

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