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Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Fearcom(m): 1:43pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
HappyPagan: Guess you haven't read where people used their personal resources and money to support Jesus's ministry Mark 15:41 Luke 8:3 and how God EXPECTS ALL BELIEVERS to use their resources and money to SUPPORT ministers of the gospel I Cor 9:7-14 |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
alBHAGDADI: This statement shows your height, depth and length of ignorance of the word of God... True that all have sinned, but does it end there? Romans 3:23-24 KJV For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; [24] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Now tell me, after justification do you still remain a sinner? To be once a sinner is quite different from being a sinner. Understand the purpose of Jesus' death: Titus 2:14 KJV Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. Are justified people impure and lukewarm about good works? Or have YOU not read: 1 John 3:6 KJV [b]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: [/b]whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 1 John 5:18 KJV We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. Humble yourself and seek the grace of God to live a holy and righteous life rather than bitterly accusing those who by grace and faith are standing and abiding in Christ with evident fruit of righteousness. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Odidigboigbo(m): 1:51pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Hearing or saying it today does not mean it was the first time he was saying it. Take your time and look for late 70's and early 80's preaching of Kumuyi when the ministry started. And come to this trend. The problem is how can he identify the offering and tithe of a sinner since they are all collected together? Kumuyi will never collect a gift from you if doesn't know your in and out, which I know very well. In 1991, he rejected a Pajero Jeep given to him as a gift by a man after a crusade in Abuja. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Dzeremosteven(m): 1:54pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Perfect time to quote the scripture, "we are all sinners" |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 1:55pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Odidigboigbo:I was in that church in the 80s and 90s and there was nothing of the such back then. I understand you feel the need to defend your god here but dont you think you discredit him by claiming what he is coming out to propose now has always existed his own enterprise without his knowing of it? Obviously,the bigger issue here ought to be that this man is one of the false teachers and prophets Jesus Christ warned against but instead you are focused on tithing, which is also is against jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law of God in the Kingdom of God. 2 Likes |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by greencard: 1:55pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Sanctecosma:this here is heresy God told Abraham , "walk before ME and be thou perfect" God boast of Job to Satan Jesus on earth was a perfect example that we as humans can be perfect, when HIS disciples ask how and discribed it as hard, His response was "with God all things are possible" .so it is possible to be perfect, but it is not possible to be God. hope you get it? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by greencard: 1:56pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Starz825:so pastor should sound unholy so that you can be happy?? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I've been cracking up since I saw this post. Like what the heck! How does he intend doing this? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:03pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Can you identifies what makes him a false prophet and tell us how a real prophet ought to have leave with an example? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:05pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
CharisEleos:The con-man labeled all those who will try to step up to get there money back sinners. Do you know what that could mean to their lives and their friendships, maybe even their jobs? By essentially demonizing them, how many, after considering the possible ramifications of being ostracized by friends and family, maybe even business partners will step forward to claim their money back? Have you not seen how these his church/cult people treat those who are suspected of sin in their midst? 2 Likes |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by FarmTech(m): 2:07pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
jesusjnr2020:. Gud reply. Proverbs 25:11 ► The right word at the right time |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by TiglathPILESER: 2:07pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:i believe since you are wiser and more knowledgable, God should have called you to do His work instead?! If he was to say o ye sinner bring your tithe, those fingers of yours will never stop typing vainly. Pastor kumuyi is not a false prophet like the one who died recently. Mind your utterances, mind your biz or are you on the payroll of the devil? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by FarmTech(m): 2:08pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
alBHAGDADI:. U are making a BIG mistake. But I thank God some people have corrected u. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by TiglathPILESER: 2:14pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie, i plead with you for your own good please be calm about this issue. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:15pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Odidigboigbo:The man's lips are filled with doctrines and traditions of men - lies - Matthew 15 vs -9. He teaches these lies to millions every day deceiving them away from the Truth of God, neutralizing the Power of God in their lives and making their worship of God of no meaning - Mark 7 vs 1 - 23. How do you know a true follower of Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ told you that those who love Him are those who continually submit to and obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 20 -21. So it isn't rocket science then that those who live in disobedience of Him are those who do not belong to Him - John 14 vs 23 - 24. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Mckhala80(m): 2:19pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
I see broke and sinful tithers jubilating . At least , if their tithes since year 2000 till date are returned , poverty rate is reduced already. I see 70 per cent of members waiting to be branded '' sinful members''. Congrats to all sinful members. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:20pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
TiglathPILESER:The man is indeed a false teacher and a false prophet. For one God said He alone will teach those who belong to Him in His New Covenant- jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34. Jesus Christ reiterated this when He declared that only those who are taught by His Father belong to Him - John 6 vs 43 - 45. Jesus Christ even went as far as to warn His followers against setting themselves up as Teachers over anyone who belongs to Him - Matthew 23 vs 6 - 9 - declaring curses on all those who make make themselves teachers to anyone who believe in Him including those who listen to such false teachers - Matthew 23 vs1 - 36. The fact that you are a follower of Kumuyi and you think tithing is obedience to God is proof that the man is a false Teacher who conveniently refused to read Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 to teach you that the Old Covenant Law where tithing is defined has absolutely nothing to do with you. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:24pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:After lengthy words you end up saying nothing because you have non to accused him of. What are the tradition of men that he teaches and the lies? Be specific to mention them. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:27pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Odidigboigbo:Interesting that I responded you declare it means nothing. Well, how about you try to digest what i have already said on this. If you still don't understand what Jesus Christ made clear in John 14, then... |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Adakintroy: 2:29pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
HappyPagan: Not Nigerian pastors. Una too demonize una country. The real alphas na people Benny inn or Kenneth coplaand. Na them teach our own work in name of Pentecostal. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:31pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Adakintroy:Kumuyi learned from those men? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Aduroja123(m): 2:31pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
psucc: Seems a nice idea. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Chamberlin1983(m): 2:37pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
There one thing i so much love the catholic church, never will they preach about paying of tithes to its members. Some pastors have resorted in preaching so much about tithe as if it is the only way to heaven. This is why i so much agree with forkes who say some men of God are into the church for their selfish gain and not really for the work of Christ. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:38pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:As I said earlier, you have nothing to accused him of. You would have boldly say it out, most especially the lie part. The John 14 you are quoting talks more about the the comforter, which is the holy spirit, which is one of the three pillars of the Church, that is they have a dove in their logo. Take your time to attend any of the retreat or any of his crusade and see the man of God digest the teaching of the holy spirit and manifestation of the power therein with signs and wonders following. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Lordswat(m): 2:38pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
I'm an unrepentant sinner, a chronic liar and an anticipating serial killer, will i get my money back? ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ ............................................ Even the Bible says God does not want the death of a sinner but for him/her to repent and turn away from their evil ways. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Nobody: 2:40pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Hmm... This is serious. Like how will he be able to tell those who are really sinners? I think somethings requires the wisdom of God. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Adakintroy: 2:40pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I don't know who kumuyi learned from. The guy said Nigeria" pastors. I was making my point. That it is not Nigerian pastors that learned it from themselves. Some people thought them. It was the foreign one. If you must call out, be bold to call out the foreign ones. We just love to demonize all things Nigeria. Wereas what is happening here is also happening |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Kobojunkie: 2:43pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
Chamberlin1983:Tithing will not get anyone into Heaven ...it is a sin against God so how can it?. Please read your bible and stop feeding on the lies that is the doctrines and traditions of men, Jesus Christ warned and even cursed those who do such - Mark 7 vs 1 - 23. |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Chamberlin1983(m): 2:44pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
I want to believe that you are a man of God. So let me ask you this simple question, are you a righteous man? |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by Vireani79: 2:44pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
alBHAGDADI: Oga read ur bible U can only be a sinner once Once u accept Jesus U become righteous The righteousness by the grace of Jesus Now being right with God is when u believe and u are baptized by immersion not by sprinkling water on a baby After this u are to work out ur salvation Meaning it's a journey U will fail U will fall U will do wrong But u don't sin Cos sin is the adamic nature Whosoever is born of God is if God A dog will give birth to a dog A goat will give birth to a goat So has God given birth to u Since God cannot sin U cannot sin |
Re: Kumuyi To Return Tithes, Offerings Of Sinful Deeper Life Members by choblak(m): 2:45pm On Jun 20, 2021 |
How is he going to return it Am waiting for anwers |
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