Do you have to explain? Can't you just move with the flow till you secure your own accommodation? Cos really no matter how good you are at explaining things,they wouldn't be convinced

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

freshtimi:
Trust me, they will always find reasons why u r wrong not to follow religion. I was in your shoes a couple of years ago, trying to explain my decision to family and friends n I found out that they will never understand you. Just dont stress yourself about it. Keep working hard, be a good person as much as you can and lastly help as many as you have the capacity to.

And which of the afore-mentioned acts was opposed by religion if I may ask?

Y'all have too much drama in this forum. So you can't sit to a conversation with your parents where you calmly tell them you're an atheist and accept the consequences?
Or is it the consequences you're wary of? You do know that every decision has one and cannot be avoided, right?
You're an adult, pull a 'when in rome,' move out ASAP or occupy your time with valuable things.
Don't know why someone who doesn't believe in a higher power is worried about the whole deal.
Them force march you go church or mosque? Are they inside your head? Why are you torturing yourself by your own selve?

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

fowlyansh181:
Don’t discuss it with them, they’ll chastise you for it .. simply continue with whatever you are doing till you move out ...

When I was still with my family , I hardly joined the morning prayers, I don’t go to church on sundays , not in a stubborn way but just my thing .. if them shout for you like 4 times and you still do it, they’ll eventually just ignore you.. now I own my house and do whatever I think is right for me and no one questions anymore ...

Stop treating those forcing you to go to church as a problem, rather kindly do whatever you like without labeling it..

No go Dey cause problem for yourself with your parents because they believe religion is right and they want the best for you , don’t hate them for that, rather do your own thing without even stressing yourself .. they don’t know any better.

This is absolutely apt!
Well said.

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

u have made the right choice, don't let all the religious fanatics blackmail u into thinking u are wrong.

U can see how they are threatening you, it's because religion grows in fear n poverty. That's why Africans are so religious, it give them a form of hope because they are hopeless.

As for telling ur parents, the choice is totally yours, there's no polite way of telling them. Or better still don't tell them n just live ur life.

Afamsi:
I bet you don't know much about Christianity. Christianity never encourages laziness. In Christianity you back your belief with your work.

BS.
What else is there to know about Christianity?
Is there a new revelation that we have not heard about?

The guy is saying, just like many of have stated repeatedly in the past, that he is allergic to Bullshyt.
Many of us were simply born that way, though it takes longer for some people to come to that realization and accept it.
No amount of Bullshyt can penetrate his mind.

Simple.

obembet:
A peaceful household shows that the bastard is still young

This your comment is so uncalled for.

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

From time immoral religion as been scam. Full of fake.

I don't go to church. I pray on my own. God is always faithful.

I think your getting it all wrong. What you needed was to change your church, communicate your doubts and feelings to someone.

NB. There is a God and he loves.

When such QUESTIONS are raised, Religious Leaders in Nigeria start threatening you with Fire & Brimstone.
We should really grow above this.
In my Youthful days in Bible study classes, i made sure I aligned myself with the class of the Reverend, so I could confront him with mind boggling Questions.

At some point he wasn't comfortable having me in his Class. In Fact he told me to redirect most of my questions to God directly.
Too many Lazy thinkers creep into Religion and find succour there. They hate Real time challenges.
When you engage some of these Pentecostal Pastors in discussion you will be amazed at how empty they are. They know nothing else.
They ask no questions at all.
These same people threaten unyielding members with Fire & Brimestone

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

Unforturnately, you have not been able to differentiate between following Christ and following religion. Bible warns us vehemently about all these, but your lack of deeper knowledge has confused you more. For your information, I have been in your shoe before and all I can tell you is to deepen your search about the Christ and not religion. It is part of self-awareness and consciousness stage that every rational being should pass through.

Fake prophesies, ostentatious lifestyle etc might seem christlike in your opinion, but there was nowhere that was supported in the Word of God.

You are entitled to your way of life, but deepen your knowledge about variables would not be out of the way.

MALIGNANTGuest:

U mean you saw God or you felt something that seems like his presence?
Which please?

Miraculously healed.
Depression lifted.
Experienced peace and joy for no reason.
Felt His presence (still do anytime I worship).

MALIGNANTGuest:

This your point won't help him either.
He needs a better explanation 2d things of life.
No one came into this world with Religion, we were either exposed to it at birth or we got into a new one via conversion.

At least his Brain is thinking.
His Brain is asking questions.
God is interested in bold & intelligent people.
Pastors don't like such people.
Especially those who allow their brains to work.
Rather they cherish the "O Yes MEMBERS"
Nigeria is suffering today because of a huge deposit of Gullible people, afraid to ask questions.

Thanks for a polite response.. Religion deals with God.. saying not knowing the reasons of God is just childish to me.. Let start from our source first, let look at Natural/Artificial made..This alone is a great convince,talkless of that,life is more spiritual than physical.. spiritual control physical..how do you want to improve your spirit..Is it by all these worldly materials or what?I agree..Let him make any choice,he like oooo..

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

The sad truth is that until you are on your own most parents will brook no opposition to their religious ideas. I would say wait until you move out before you brooch the subject.

Ellasure:


Thank God for your recovery. Many people die too young to have the opportunity to realise God almighty and godliness in life.

When you have your parents still living with you on earth you always feel free wheeling and behaving as you like until they depart.

But if you can calm down and learn from others and attend social occasions with a view to understand the happening you will have a good insight into life and God works.

Psalm 14 is appropriate for this brother to read solemnly and seek full understanding in a church Bible class

You are right.
My mom's death left a deep vacuum in me. I became depressed.
Na God help me.

CalmElder:


Miraculously healed.
Depression lifted.
Experienced peace and joy for no reason.
Felt His presence (still do anytime I worship).

IF I relocate you to Cape Verde or Caribbean Island with 500million in your account, you will feel same.

Olaideolayemi:
Thanks for a polite response.. Religion deals with God.. saying not knowing the reasons of God is just childish to me.. Let start from our source first, let look at Natural/Artificial made..This alone is a great convince,talkless of that,life is more spiritual than physical.. spiritual control physical..how do you want to improve your spirit..Is it by all these worldly materials or what?I agree..Let him make any choice,he like oooo..

I concur.
It's wrong to not question your beliefs, religious or non religious.

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

Bro, why do you have to tell them? It's really difficult to convince religious people in a situation like this. Just move on with your life.

MALIGNANTGuest:

IF I relocate you to Cape Verde or Caribbean Island with 500million in your account, you will feel same.

because of the new enviroment, but not after some years.

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

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3minssex:


The only reason you're a Christian is because your parents raised you as one. Of course, you'd consider yourself lucky and fortunate.

But, I do have to wonder,though,how many people really give much though to the fact that they happened to be born to Christian parents,and if they had been born,for example,to jewish parents,they would likely follow judaism,and if they had been born to Hindus or Muslim parents,they would likely follow Hinduism or Islam,and so on.

Across the globe,there are people who have absolute belief in their religion,and that religion is exactly the religion their parents chose for them. (And,most likely,their parents belong to the particular religion for the same reason.) And these people feel strongly that their religion is correct.

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One can be in the Church for 24/7 and not be a follower of Christ; are you aware of that?

Olaideolayemi:
Thanks for a polite response.. Religion deals with God.. saying not knowing the reasons of God is just childish to me.. Let start from our source first, let look at Natural/Artificial made..This alone is a great convince,talkless of that,life is more spiritual than physical.. spiritual control physical..how do you want to improve your spirit..Is it by all these worldly materials or what?I agree..Let him make any choice,he like oooo..

I'm not doubting you.
The Truth is, RELIGION is a way thru which people make supplication & atonement unto God.
The issue we have is, every RELIGION tries to claim ownership of God.
Some even challenge others to God's ownership through killings, destruction of lives/ properties.
But my question is
What RELIGION is GOD?
No pastor has answered this..
The question settles a lot of disputes

JaneYave:
The prayers you don't pray today, You will pray tomorrow.
Storms are so real. It takes prayers to stand strong when they come.

Rubbish!!
Religion is a SCAM!!!

Timoleon:
You don’t explain to them. You live at peace with your parents. If giving them a few hours of your Sunday secures that peace, give it to them. Religion/spirituality is a personal journey. If you like go to church and study online or work online, they won’t think much of it. For the most part, people are more concerned with appearances than reality. So if going to church especially if you still stay under their roof allows you and them peace of mind, do it. If you aren’t under their roof, always tell them church was fine whenever they ask ‘how was church?’ Wether you go or not.
Seek peace at all times.

you are wise bro! Op, this is the best and most reasonable response so far. Do all it takes to be in good terms with your parent FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE.

If someone has been foolish all his life and another person recognizes it then there is a tendency to hate that person

So someone shows you your 5 daily prayers x 365 days x 30 years is just self deception

That is a bitter pill to accept and swallow.

But this is obvious

Let us start with Christianity and Islam
Logically if you follow those two religions according to their teachings

ONLY ONE is correct and the other is no different from not having a religion. Some people say "we are worshipping the same God" but is that what the Pentecostal Christianity teaches? A BIG NO. It teaches There is no Salvation Outside Jesus


So in this life do "Christians" have a better life than Muslims or indeed than anyone?

The answer is obvious and ubiquitous . I do not even need to answer that


The reverse argument applies to Islam.

Therefore whatever benefit comes from following those doctrines whilst on Earth are available to those who do not believe in any God. The only benefit that they can have that others do not is going to their heaven but

IN THIS LIFE THERE IS NO ADVANTAGE from religion that accrues to them that those without religion do not get

phemmyfour:
Destruction loading

Destruction of what?
What is worse than the current state of Nigeria and yet na una carry Religion for head like Gala?
Bunch of Hypocrites..

Johel:



Christianity is SHIT!!

Mere statement and your simple opinion.

Have a peaceful day

You mustn't stop going to church or participating in religious activities.

I sometimes yearn to have the spiritual encounter or understanding that some claim to have.

I love church, I like the socializing and practical sermons and Bible lessons. However, I find myself critiquing sermons, Bible passages, and miracle stories a lot. Several people have asked me why I even go to church because I don't fully believe in prayers, grace grace people, village people, witches and wizards, etc.

So, you can go to church and still be at peace with yourself and your beliefs.

Anyway, grace brought us this far (not tfare).

Kandeed:


Sadly, this is the truth. we grew up knowing without God if everything seems going well with you, you just gotta be careful, there's something wrong ur just ignorant of

But I hope you get to understand sooner than later tho

It is better you tell your parents that you are @bobrisky rather than you are an Atheist

indadi:
My Dad called me this evening to tell me the essence of praying. The thing is that I don't believe praying solves anything Atleast to me. the day I stopped believing and started working more on myself, I found out that things started getting better for me than those who goes to the Church and Mosques.

When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.

The Pastors and Prophets with their fake miracles or the Boko Haram and their suicide with the reasons of going to heaven to get virgins.

I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.

I really want to tell them in a polite way so they can accept my way.

My Dad won't accept this, as he believes that it is God or nothing.

I've never seen anywhere in my Bible that says being religious equates being a Christian.
Hardwork is a tenet of Christianity and there are many references to that.
Yes, it's God or nothing. My God works, hitherto I must work was Jesus Christ's statement.
Your opinions about fake Pastors or imams is irrelevant in your work with God. You should know God and listen to your father telling you to serve God.
Let me ask you a question...
Have you ever studied some books of the new testament to understand who Jesus Christ is? Know his person.
Don't let the things you see on social media stop you from serving God.
The father of a righteous child has great joy.

hmmmm haahahaaa i laff small pikin wen no know medicine go call am vegetable....you can make your choice and do whatever you like but put it at the back of your mind that there is God that can only be accessed by accepting Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior hence you are free to make your choice whether to accept/believe or not but you are not free from the consequences of your choice which is eternal damnation in hell for any one who reject God and his offer of salvation -Jesus Christ!...keep this at the back of your mind so you wont blame any body when that great day arrives for you as it will arrive for everyone, one day at a time.