macof:
Yeah it could also mean that as you've translated.

The "ìgbà" there refering obviously to "period" not calabash or round or turn spin

Anyway, normally it's a small case that anyone can learn from. Nobody is saying we should be above mistakes or someone else doesn't make mistake or might not even know.. But being able to be humble and honest enough to take correction is important

How he thinks no one knows he is ignorant amazes me every time.

TAO11:
Someone hates to be corrected even on the most obvious consistent blunder.

No vex. Oya start correcting what needs to be without jibes, pls.

Olu317:
Some are highly stubborn and I do not discourage people from having their filled day. Except vaguar word comes in my direction. But right now, I do not engage out reason..

Meanwhile, Latest Report by scientists on Neanderthal in August-September 2021, claims for everyone with Neanderthal dna is trait of patrilineal ancestry.

Clearly, this statement means that Yoruba were not of Africa . Very shocking

Otito. E jogun o simi.

nisai:
No vex. Oya start correcting what needs to be without jibes, pls.

Lol. I don’t mind doing that bro. You should know me by now.

But what happens when the person whom one tries to educate would always engage in meaningless spin and endless gymnastics (sometime being very uncivil) all to the flawed effect of claiming right on what is wrong by all sane standard?

nisai:
Otito. E jogun o simi.

That’s the kind of d*g-sh*t he goes around typing.

He is a “Yoruba” from Jerusalem. /s

absoluteSuccess:


Thank you dearest bro, may the God of heaven bless you and your generation for ever.

Amen.

Amen and you as well. Have a glorious Sunday.

kayusely70:
Amen and you as well. Have a glorious Sunday.

Amen. Sorry I took down the original post. It's part of the book I'm working on, trust that you just dropped a gem in the above oriki.

I will appreciate if you feed me with the rest of it privately sir, it has to be documented as oral source. It's Yoruba's Commonwealth.

Each family keep a part, and that makes each house a custodian of Yoruba historical data, and not a centralized entity for everyone.

Text me the details, I will pay for it.

My number is 080 97 17 4000.

Olu317:
I do not understand "My bad ?" or Ileife origin of Ogiso dynasty ?

Baba, easy ooo, omo Orunmila.

Endeavor to cross all your "t" and dot all your "i" accordingly, you can do it boss.

Don't expend all you have at an angst.

Don't rush your thoughts when you have the platform that's going nowhere, please.

Tidy up bro. Thanks.

One love.

There are many ways the ancient scholars had used the word agba to represent sphere, of course nature has the shape in abundance.

One way we see Yoruba usage of it is in the proverb, "ajantuka n'tagbaarin". Like most of Yoruba proverbs, this is scientific observation.

The proverb is a simple but fundamental law of physics and it says, "the middle ball will roll away in commotion". What manner of proverb is this?

It simply implies that if you place a spherical object above two unbraced spherical objects, "the middle ball will roll away in commotion".

The genus of Yoruba proverbs is such that you are made to figure out the accessories only if you understand the contents of the proverb.

Otherwise, you can make do with the indirect meaning. But as students of Yoruba semantics, we press to know more from sunrise to sunrise.

Ile Akoko latii gbedo.

TAO11:
That’s the kind of d*g-sh*t he goes around typing.

He is a “Yoruba” from Jerusalem. /s

Pls Tao

TAO11:
Lol. I don’t mind doing that bro. You should know me by now.

But what happens when the person whom one tries to educate would always engage in meaningless spin and endless gymnastics (sometime being very uncivil) all to the flawed effect of claiming right on what is wrong by all sane standard?

Yes, I know.

It's annoying but just.............. Abo oro ye yin now.

TAO11:
What are you typing? What is the point you’re trying to make? And what are you responding to? What’s your comment’s relevance?

Anyone can type anything; e.g. “Seun owns Nairaland”.

But how is such relevant to the point here. You get it?

Always think relevance. Okay? Good boy.

For every information, begins with a leeway.Unfortunately, you perceived not so I show you a clue on your flawed information, you hold so much.

The point you still goofed again and again !!! Plainly, I only point to the direction you have erred on some of your best authored books, which you reference such as Professor Banji Akintoye, who also relied on Ryder etc claiming Niger Benue confluence as the origin of Yoruba people.

Apart from this, you also have erred on diacritics , over and over again even the "igba" you accented still has a flaw. Seek it out.

My question rhetoric symbolise the purpse of igbá (calabash) to Yórúbà people in cosmology and not igbà,whichyoupostedwronglyas ìgbà ( aimless word with no acurate meaning ) which was a coined word from 19th century. Asíkò-àsekò,akókò,saa,wàkátì,idáyi-idáhi,diwọ̀n, igbà ,which is a newer term that you so believed is rare or not used in older Yoruba dialects

Perhaps, your linear understanding which tilt towards Oyo will naturally wane. Most often Baba comes to your linear mind Bàbá. Rather Bábá- which simply shows in its root, ẹni á "Bá" lá á bá ni Bábá.(Ifaodu corpus)

Seriously, I chose not dent your information because,too many errors you posted as a result of stagnancy ofin formation you can access.I wish you really really. Anyway, enjoy yourself.

nisai:
Otito. E jogun o simi.

I won't go further again. However, too many errors in his/her information .Good lord! I hardly make comment on it, since I know he/she knows not beyond his/her limit. Rather than waste y time, I move on.

If for some reason, I am referred as Ibri,or bree which was a name corrupted as Yoruba's ancestor name as far as I am concerned.

Furthermore,the name remains as the name identified in Buba Ahmed 1615 account, which justify my view am justified. Afterall , the word is not Yoruba but eerb(Yrb-Yarb)which is also the reverse of bry or Ibri.

Do I need teach people who find it hard for Yoruba to Neanderthals among over 50 ethnic groups in West Africa? Oh , some people claims, it is over 200 ethnic groups in West Africa. While minute 3 other realated sub Yoruba groups are mentioned and Ibos left out.

Seriously, as usual, I expect someone will quote me because Hebrew is threat to their own ancestry but not mine. Here is the Yarb or Yrb interpretation of the root word according to islamic or ARABIC'S alphabets.

Arabic's Yaa and ancient Hebrew's Yod are interpreted as ee in English's. The Hebrew also interchange it with Y at times. Since certain rules are followed.

Arabic's Raa(R) which is Hebrew's resh that is rii(ree)

Arabic's Baa(B) which is Hebrew's Bet that is bee sound in English.

Thus,Yoruba as a name is a wrongly interpreted name of the people in Western -North central partof Nigeria that spread as far as Gambia region.

Seriously, fact lighten up where false thrive and the latter disappears into the thin air. Sheath the sword, is what I did long time ago because I am a son of my ancestors who protect my people ,even when there some or linear flaws that I had done and still doing.


Do have a great day.

Cheers

absoluteSuccess:


Baba, easy ooo, omo Orunmila.

Endeavor to cross all your "t" and dot all your "i" accordingly, you can do it boss.

Don't expend all you have at an angst.

Don't rush your thoughts when you have the platform that's going nowhere, please.

Tidy up bro. Thanks.

One love.

Ọmọ Ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀àà njẹ́ o o
tí á bá pèrí akọni
á fi idà láa'lẹ̀ gaara

Seriously , I am not interested in dealing with people who accept identity of Ileife yet sees below facts as the source of their findings.

Sometimes, I wonder if people went to university to become zoombies or to be openminded to doing research so as to do better than their predecessors. I just wonder!

My quest is to saliently give out information based on a lighter mood and not engage anyone as it seems.

At the right time, the brainwashed will know who is the king of animal between a witch induced lion, the Carnivorous which is of a cat family and Elephant, the Herbivorous,who taught compression of power abuse and made man know some herb whose strength can hardly be matched with eight lions or lioness in contest Oops, lioness is even bigger than lions.

Ifaodu teaching corpus told Yorubas...
"Àgba ni tó orò nlọ
ọbà ni tó éhín erin nfọn"

I sight you sire.

Olu317:
I won't go further again. However, too many errors in his/her information .Good lord! I hardly make comment on it, since I know he/she knows not beyond his/her limit. Rather than waste y time, I move on.

If for some reason, I am referred as Ibri,or bree which was a name corrupted as Yoruba's ancestor name as far as I am concerned.

Furthermore,the name remains as the name identified in Buba Ahmed 1615 account, which justify my view am justified. Afterall , the word is not Yoruba but eerb(Yrb-Yarb)which is also the reverse of bry or Ibri.

Do I need teach people who find it hard for Yoruba to Neanderthals among over 50 ethnic groups in West Africa? Oh , some people claims, it is over 200 ethnic groups in West Africa. While minute 3 other realated sub Yoruba groups are mentioned and Ibos left out.

Seriously, as usual, I expect someone will quote me because Hebrew is threat to their own ancestry but not mine. Here is the Yarb or Yrb interpretation of the root word according to islamic or ARABIC'S alphabets.

Arabic's Yaa and ancient Hebrew's Yod are interpreted as ee in English's. The Hebrew also interchange it with Y at times. Since certain rules are followed.

Arabic's Raa(R) which is Hebrew's resh that is rii(ree)

Arabic's Baa(B) which is Hebrew's Bet that is bee sound in English.

Thus,Yoruba as a name is a wrongly interpreted name of the people in Western -North central partof Nigeria that spread as far as Gambia region.

Seriously, fact lighten up where false thrive and the latter disappears into the thin air. Sheath the sword, is what I did long time ago because I am a son of my ancestors who protect my people ,even when there some or linear flaws that I had done and still doing.


Do have a great day.

Cheers

^^

Try to accept Oyo Yoruba, it's in it we are conversing even if you think it arrived in the 20th century as a koine language. The Yoruba we speak on paper derived from Ile Igbon, not Oyo Ile.

Igba o lo bi orere, ojo o lo bi opa ibon, igba nbajo, lonilu gbelu lo, omo arijo se bi Oba. We also speaks of nigba iwase. These are examples of ancient usage of nigba.

Laye olugbon, laye Aresa, laye owarangunaga: these refers to era as epochs, due to poor calendar culture amongst the Yoruba. Time is eternal continuum to them.

Neandathals

I know it's a fancy one to you, you felt I don't know anything about this, but as far back as 2000, I've been reading about this on TIME and on a section of Punch newspaper called science around this same time.

I used to be an insertionist in the organization as a young man. We read the paper for free, we go to insert first print and inner, this is distributed all over the country.

Neandathals, from what I gathered from the science are human "cousins" edged out in the competition for survival with the more advanced "human stocks".

They went on extinction because they can't invent their tools, hence they can't compete favourably with the human species to whom they are related.

The present standpoint of science is that modern man emanated from common stock, Homo sapiens. You must understand the politics of evolution to choose your belief.

Any scientific research pitching the Yoruba to neandathals is quite interesting. Our forehead don't look like the one known with neandathals anyway.

Let me check my library for a source. Happy weekend. Like Oyo like you love Ife, information is distributed all over the place in Yoruba land about Yoruba history.

Olu317:
Ọmọ Ọ̀rúnmìẹ̀àà njẹ́ o o
tí á bá pèrí akọni
á fi idà láa'lẹ̀ gaara

Seriously , I am not interested in dealing with people who accept identity of Ileife yet sees below facts as the source of their findings.

Sometimes, I wonder if people went to university to become zoombies or to be openminded to doing research so as to do better than their predecessors. I just wonder!

My quest is to saliently give out information based on a lighter mood and not engage anyone as it seems.

At the right time, the brainwashed will know who is the king of animal between a witch induced lion, the Carnivorous which is of a cat family and Elephant, the Herbivorous,who taught compression of power abuse and made man know some herb whose strength can hardly be matched with eight lions or lioness in contest Oops, lioness is even bigger than lions.

Ifaodu teaching corpus told Yorubas...
"Àgba ni tó orò nlọ
ọbà ni tó éhín erin nfọn"

I sight you sire.

You can see how clean up this response is, please try and maintain it now! Ah, sometimes you rush it being too carefree. It's part of being a research fellow dear brother.

I know it's impossible for all of us to have similar finesse writing our findings, but you have to try, except you don't have the intention of publishing in the future.

If not, no probs, but if yes, then do the needful at all times. Nigeria is not America where you have agents who helps polish your script up to the state of the art ooo. No time at all.

Aesthetic is pretty part of writing, you must be the first audience of your write up, it's should be a piece of art to you. You are an artist painting with words.

Tidy up on your Yoruba as well, it's public decorum, it must extend from you to the world. I don't have the right to give you instructions bro, just trying to make your works more beautiful, you will love it.

Olu317:
[s]For every information, begins with a leeway.Unfortunately, you perceived not so I show you a clue on your flawed information, you hold so much.

The point you still goofed again and again !!! Plainly, I only point to the direction you have erred on some of your best authored books, which you reference such as Professor Banji Akintoye, who also relied on Ryder etc claiming Niger Benue confluence as the origin of Yoruba people.

Apart from this, you also have erred on diacritics , over and over again even the "igba" you accented still has a flaw. Seek it out.

My question rhetoric symbolise the purpse of igbá (calabash) to Yórúbà people in cosmology and not igbà,whichyoupostedwronglyas ìgbà ( aimless word with no acurate meaning ) which was a coined word from 19th century. Asíkò-àsekò,akókò,saa,wàkátì,idáyi-idáhi,diwọ̀n, igbà ,which is a newer term that you so believed is rare or not used in older Yoruba dialects

Perhaps, your linear understanding which tilt towards Oyo will naturally wane. Most often Baba comes to your linear mind Bàbá. Rather Bábá- which simply shows in its root, ẹni á "Bá" lá á bá ni Bábá.(Ifaodu corpus)

Seriously, I chose not dent your information because,too many errors you posted as a result of stagnancy ofin formation you can access.I wish you really really. Anyway, enjoy yourself.[/s]

Akintoye relied on Ryder? I erred on Yoruba diacritics Lmao!

This clown thinks it is all about sniffing suckaway and typing wherever rubbish comes to his mind.

Breaking News:
No right thinking human takes you serious.
—————
PS:
By the way, you wrote rubbish Yoruba diacritics again.

Yeah, I know pointing that out drives you insane as usual, but it is what it is. Go and learn it with humility.

Olu317:
Some are highly stubborn and I do not discourage people from having their filled day. Except vaguar word comes in my direction. But right now, I do not engage out reason..

Meanwhile, Latest Report by scientists on Neanderthal in August-September 2021, claims for everyone with Neanderthal dna is trait of patrilineal ancestry.

Clearly, this statement means that Yoruba were not of Africa . Very shocking

Here are excepts from two academic sources that makes Professor Banji Akintoye timeline for the hunter gatherer fathers of the southern Nigerian people jjc in human evolutionary trend,

Just make sure you bring change back from the remaining balance of 100,000 after spending 4000. Enjoy.



First pic credit: Oxford Bible Atlas, published by Oxford University Press.

Second and third pics credit: Illustrated Dictionary of Archeology, published by Book Club Associates of London.

Please pay attention to the first and the last pictures @ Olu, you will find something useful to the the neandathals and cro-magnom man there, just in case.

Then you will see very clear that the two sources here established the origin of man differently and one is the earliest version, based on archeological findings.

The next is the latest version, based on science speculation. You can guess what I mean by politics of evolution. The African man don suffer. Choose rightly o.

There's however a great reward for you if only you can read and digest the information on the attachments and come back with sound inference of your own.

Happy weekend great sire.

Olu317:
For every information, begins with a leeway.Unfortunately, you perceived not so I show you a clue on your flawed information, you hold so much.

The point you still goofed again and again !!! Plainly, I only point to the direction you have erred on some of your best authored books, which you reference such as Professor Banji Akintoye, who also relied on Ryder etc claiming Niger Benue confluence as the origin of Yoruba people.

Apart from this, you also have erred on diacritics , over and over again even the "igba" you accented still has a flaw. Seek it out.

My question rhetoric symbolise the purpse of igbá (calabash) to Yórúbà people in cosmology and not igbà,whichyoupostedwronglyas ìgbà ( aimless word with no acurate meaning ) which was a coined word from 19th century. Asíkò-àsekò,akókò,saa,wàkátì,idáyi-idáhi,diwọ̀n, igbà ,which is a newer term that you so believed is rare or not used in older Yoruba dialects

Perhaps, your linear understanding which tilt towards Oyo will naturally wane. Most often Baba comes to your linear mind Bàbá. Rather Bábá- which simply shows in its root, ẹni á "Bá" lá á bá ni Bábá.(Ifaodu corpus)

Seriously, I chose not dent your information because,too many errors you posted as a result of stagnancy ofin formation you can access.I wish you really really. Anyway, enjoy yourself.

Wtf!
Like how on earth does this come from someone who wants to be taken seriously by any sensible human being? Dude you're a pure joke
This one shock me
Every single sentence is just poop

What concerns Prof. Banji Akintoye or Niger-Congo Confluence with the issue of diacritics here?
And when did Prof. Banji Akintoye rely on Ryder for Yoruba origin? And what is all this about it being wrong to reference Prof. Banji Akintoye? So now he is not a reliable source but you Olu317 the clown joker who can't even write the word "Yorùbá" is reliable??

And no, it is not "igbá" it is "ìgbà".. Ìgbàlódé
Learn to take correction and move on.
There's nothing about igbá (Calabash) in the word "ìgbàlódé"

It is : Àsìkò, àkókò, wákàtí.. Again each time you write in Yorùbá you are wrong.

Keep quiet and stop lying to people. This is not about Oyo dialect. There's no dialect where it is "igbálodé" or whatever thrash you wrote. Igbá is calabash and has no place in the word


Your posts will give headache to anyone who isn't already aware that you are one piece of joke

Olu,

Will you stop making Ryder the source of our history?

Nay, that enchanted discipline is too lofty for mortals like us.

Rather, "professor" is the "source" of our history. It's past and present rolled together.



The black man and grandiose delusion, you see it in everything they touch, politics, religion etc.

Complain about it, resident evil will tell you you are committing racial sacrilege.

Yet he lives in the same over-bloated ego of empty self important over nothing, ready to kill his peers and rubbish them for fake glory.

macof:


Wtf!
Like how on earth does this come from someone who wants to be taken seriously by any sensible human being? Dude you're a pure joke
This one shock me
Every single sentence is just poop

How ignorant can a man be if he thinks he knows more than others ? This is the school both of you belonged. May be it is high time, you need be a bit adventurous in nature to know, that there are millions of people who know more than you.

Well,no one lacked the ability to know ,even if such child or man is terribly forgetful. Loo and behold oogùn ìṣọye (ì-sọ-yé), àsọyé (à-sọ-yé) is a way out for you.

When you refuse to study, information elude you.
What exactly do you know about Yoruba's sànmáni ?

Below screenshot shut you up. Beside, modern time, is not same as time ,or even era, season though interwoven. Igbà is 100% correct

Olu317:
How ignorant can a man be if he thinks he knows more than others ? This is the school both of you belonged. May be it is high time, you need be a bit adventurous in nature to know, that there are millions of people who know more than you.

Well,no one lacked the ability to know ,even if such child or man is terribly forgetful. Loo and behold oogùn ìṣọye (ì-sọ-yé), àsọyé (à-sọ-yé) is a way out for you.

When you refuse to study, information elude you.
What exactly do you know about Yoruba's sànmáni ?

Below screenshot shut you up. Beside, modern time, is not same as time ,or even era, season though interwoven. Igbà is 100% correct

Lmao
This is your previous post.

Olu317:

My question rhetoric symbolise the purpse of igbá (calabash) to Yórúbà people in cosmology and not igbà,whichyoupostedwronglyas ìgbà ( aimless word with no acurate meaning ) which was a coined word from 19th century.

Here stating you were not referring to "ìgbà".. Which you even say is wrong and instead is "igbà" [according to your dictionary]

So there is no need to show me a dictionary showing "igbà" because you already said that's not what you were referring to. But rather you were always referring to calabash (igbá)

In the screenshot below is your original post.. And clearly you don't use "igbà" but "igbá (which means Calabash)

So there's absolutely no reason for me to engage you on whether it is " ìgbà" or "igbà"... Bottomline is - it is not "igbá"(Calabash)

absoluteSuccess:


Here are excepts from two academic sources that makes Professor Banji Akintoye timeline for the hunter gatherer fathers of the southern Nigerian people jjc in human evolutionary trend,

Just make sure you bring change back from the remaining balance of 100,000 after spending 4000. Enjoy.



First pic credit: Oxford Bible Atlas, published by Oxford University Press.

Second and third pics credit: Illustrated Dictionary of Archeology, published by Book Club Associates of London.

Please pay attention to the first and the last pictures @ Olu, you will find something useful to the the neandathals and cro-magnom man there, just in case.

Then you will see very clear that the two sources here established the origin of man differently and one is the earliest version, based on archeological findings.

The next is the latest version, based on science speculation. You can guess what I mean by politics of evolution. The African man don suffer. Choose rightly o.

There's however a great reward for you if only you can read and digest the information on the attachments and come back with sound inference of your own.

Happy weekend great sire.

You are baaaad man! I have read it through. Unfortunately Baba Akinbanji can not see his book the way some people over emphasis on the book because, present information speaks differently.

Infact, I do not know reason, Yoruba authors fail to visit Ileife and make enquiry on the history of Yorubas from within Ileife, which all of us belonged to one clan or the other.

Anyway, Professor Toye Akinbanji as today, will never over emphasise his position of 2010. Infact if he has the grace, he would broaden the place of the origin of Yorubas beyond Nigeria because of Neanderthal origin.

Contrary to these great men of our time, Ifaodu says in Odù Osa Ofun,
"Ifá ṣé awo dé apá kan Òkun(atlantic) ati iláméjì Ọ̀sa (lagoon)."..............
ẹ mi alagẹmọ ki nlọ apá òkun iláji ọ̀sa
Ki oni òkun oni ọ̀sa kò lé mu mi si ọhun
Ara ilé ẹ má jó mọ́
Ara ileọ́é ẹ má yọ́ mọ́
Oni òkun oni ọ̀sa kò lé mualagẹmọ lonii ó
mo ṣé tan mó lọ....

This Ifaodu corpus counter Niger Benue postulation of Yorubas origin. Even on linguistic comparison,South East Yoruba dialects are older than others which also counter the written books which did not cover the entirety of Yoruba history as thoroughly as it ought be.

Probaibility isthat Professor Akintoye does not admire Ifaodu or he does not see IT as a storage facility of Yorubas, but unfortunate because Ifaodu stores both Christianity and Islam in HIM.

As today, Yoruba ethnic group does not have the oldest gene in Africa. Infact , more than six ethnic groups have older bones than Yorubas. . While these people of ours are crying blue murder, fact kept coming to null their theories.

macof:


Lmao
This is your previous post.

Here stating you were not referring to "ìgbà".. Which you even say is wrong and instead is "igbà" [according to your dictionary]

So there is no need to show me a dictionary showing "igbà" because you already said that's not what you were referring to. But rather you were always referring to calabash (igbá)

In the screenshot below is your original post.. And clearly you don't use "igbà" but "igbá (which means Calabash)

So there's absolutely no reason for me to engage you on whether it is " ìgbà" or "igbà"... Bottomline is - it is not "igbá"(Calabash)

Lol.I know what I posted earlier. But what does Igbá, the calabash mean if not roundness ? Interpret it.

Olu317:
Lol.I know what I posted earlier. But what does Igbá, the calabash mean if not roundness ? Interpret it.

It is ìgbàlódé.. Therefore there is nothing concerning "igbá" (Calabash) in that word.

Know this and rest

absoluteSuccess:
^^

Try to accept Oyo Yoruba, it's in it we are conversing even if you think it arrived in the 20th century as a koine language. The Yoruba we speak on paper derived from Ile Igbon, not Oyo Ile.

Igba o lo bi orere, ojo o lo bi opa ibon, igba nbajo, lonilu gbelu lo, omo arijo se bi Oba. We also speaks of nigba iwase. These are examples of ancient usage of nigba.

Laye olugbon, laye Aresa, laye owarangunaga: these refers to era as epochs, due to poor calendar culture amongst the Yoruba. Time is eternal continuum to them.

Neandathals

I know it's a fancy one to you, you felt I don't know anything about this, but as far back as 2000, I've been reading about this on TIME and on a section of Punch newspaper called science around this same time.

I used to be an insertionist in the organization as a young man. We read the paper for free, we go to insert first print and inner, this is distributed all over the country.

Neandathals, from what I gathered from the science are human "cousins" edged out in the competition for survival with the more advanced "human stocks".

They went on extinction because they can't invent their tools, hence they can't compete favourably with the human species to whom they are related.

The present standpoint of science is that modern man emanated from common stock, Homo sapiens. You must understand the politics of evolution to choose your belief.

Any scientific research pitching the Yoruba to neandathals is quite interesting. Our forehead don't look like the one known with neandathals anyway.

Let me check my library for a source. Happy weekend. Like Oyo like you love Ife, information is distributed all over the place in Yoruba land about Yoruba history.

Quite a load in here. Yes, I am aware of Neanderthal history but slightly differs from the view you shared.

Reason being that virtually historical perspective, human evolution took place in around the era some ancient Yorubas were alive.

And there was an account that emphasise of an apeman who was birthed by Ape and a female human, according to fairytales talked about by the Yorubas which science delved into and claim evolution of man.

Meanwhile, the ancient Yorubas still acknowledged human beings who were giants or aptly taller humanoid. This also has been speculated and research work has also invented the dna for these people.

So, if I make reference to Neanderthal, is because, it remains a case study which supports Yoruba's act of immigrating from somewhere to many places before arrival in present day Nigeria. This is my view.

While on the Oyos, I do not have anything against her strength because through her Yorubas became renowned name in West Africa . But linguistically,she is highly younger and has been the most spoken by all.

TAO11:
Akintoye relied on Ryder? I erred on Yoruba diacritics Lmao!

This clown thinks it is all about sniffing suckaway and typing wherever rubbish comes to his mind.

Breaking News:
No right thinking human takes you serious.
—————
PS:
By the way, you wrote rubbish Yoruba diacritics again.

Yeah, I know pointing that out drives you insane as usual, but it is what it is. Go and learn it with humility.

Tell me, where did Professor Banji Akintoye got his information on Yoruba's ethnic group's origin from the sea forefront ?

Was it Bowen before Ryder or Bowen before Ryder? You make me laugh.

Contrary to your view, I have never being mad at any one not even you on an issue which I know has no basis for superiority complex! Or are you competing with me ? If you actually want to compete with me, then ,you must be a joke.

Plainly, Ryder's claim was from Ifaodu corpus account which were narrated to Bowen . So,go learn deep Yoruba history from Ifáodù to know what Ori worship has in relationship with christianity.

Ryder quoted T. J. Bowen's "Adventures and Missionary Labours in Several Countries in the Interior of Africa (Charleston, 1857), pp.265"

"Forty years earlier the missionary Bowen was told of an Ife standing upon 'the sea'."

Does the standing on sea mean Niger -Benue confluence ? Niger- Confluence is landlocked and has no access to sea. Perhaps, you failed to realise, ship cannot berth overthere. Grow up and learn farther than you know.

absoluteSuccess:


You can see how clean up this response is, please try and maintain it now! Ah, sometimes you rush it being too carefree. It's part of being a research fellow dear brother.

I know it's impossible for all of us to have similar finesse writing our findings, but you have to try, except you don't have the intention of publishing in the future.

If not, no probs, but if yes, then do the needful at all times. Nigeria is not America where you have agents who helps polish your script up to the state of the art ooo. No time at all.

Aesthetic is pretty part of writing, you must be the first audience of your write up, it's should be a piece of art to you. You are an artist painting with words.

Tidy up on your Yoruba as well, it's public decorum, it must extend from you to the world. I don't have the right to give you instructions bro, just trying to make your works more beautiful, you will love it.

Yes I am care free at times knowingly and unknowingly most times.

Do you not know what Ọ̀rúnmìẸ̀làà did just to know who are or his friend(s) among the irúnmọlẹ̀ ? Bàbá fi ajulọ han wọn ni o .

Here you find people picking on irrelevant things as a point so as to feel fulfilled. So,I do not care most times about it since it'is not my book at stake but for the point you raised here, I appreciate your cocern.


Thanks

absoluteSuccess:
We are familiar with the story of Elijah in the Hebrew scripture.

There seems to be a Yoruba perspective to it: Aja.

The name Ajagbe may be a repository of history that seek to immortalize the memorial of Elijah in anal of Yoruba liturgy. All that is left of that is a foggy tradition that we may still remember to some extent.

In one of Yoruba's storytelling, its often said that when there is whirlwind, someone can be taken away, and so, no one must get close to an active whirlwind. It is often said that whirlwind may take one away and when one comes back, one becomes very powerful.

The regular whirlwind is 'iji' in Yoruba, while 'Aja' is the one that takes one away that one may return and be very powerful. I want to think the belief is well rooted among ancient Yoruba, hence the name Ajagbe was coined to mean "taken away by whirlwind".

In fact, while throwing water on the whirlwind, the Yoruba often shout thief!! to break the whirlwind before it damages or takes anyone away. Aja is akin to Jah in Elijah, meaning 'El is Jah'. Aja is Yoruba for somewhere in the sky where one goes to become powerful.

Well you wont find Elijah in Yoruba tradition, but you will find a gist or a hint that shows that a man can be taken away by whirlwind unto the sky is tenable in Yoruba tradition, then you can bring the integrals closer to see how the story goes. who learnt from who?

Elijah's ascention is 'Ajagbe' to the ancient Yorubas, although they lost the records, but they kept the foggy idea till date.

Erimoje ni mi,
Omo Sa Aja...

We are africans. Yoruba. We have nothing in common with the middle east because you believe in their god.

Olu317:
[s]Tell me, where did Professor Banji Akintoye got his information on Yoruba's ethnic group's origin from the sea forefront ?

Was it Bowen before Ryder or Bowen before Ryder? You make me laugh.

Contrary to your view, I have never being mad at any one not even you on an issue which I know has no basis for superiority complex! Or are you competing with me ? If you actually want to compete with me, then ,you must be a joke.

Plainly, Ryder's claim was from Ifaodu corpus account which were narrated to Bowen . So,go learn deep Yoruba history from Ifáodù to know what Ori worship has in relationship with christianity.

Ryder quoted T. J. Bowen's "Adventures and Missionary Labours in Several Countries in the Interior of Africa (Charleston, 1857), pp.265"

"Forty years earlier the missionary Bowen was told of an Ife standing upon 'the sea'."

Does the standing on sea mean Niger -Benue confluence ? Niger- Confluence is landlocked and has no access to sea. Perhaps, you failed to realise, ship cannot berth overthere. Grow up and learn farther than you know.[/s]

Didinrin yi carry your messed up life away from me.

There is no reason why I should repeatedly educate a renowned dullard — free of charge for that matter.

Temigrey112:


We are africans. Yoruba. We have nothing in common with the middle east because you believe in their god.

Thanks for the opinion.

If opinion is proof of fact, then you are right.

The opinion is all you know about history.

"We are Africans", "their god".

Olu317:
Quite a load in here. Yes, I am aware of Neanderthal history but slightly differs from the view you shared.

Reason being that virtually historical perspective, human evolution took place in around the era some ancient Yorubas were alive.

Olu, you are a great person with sound mind and keen judgement. No matter how beautiful the appeal, stick strong to what can be verified in the physical and record time.

What you have in your hands are great piece of information, even the man macof bad to copied what you first posted on this forum and improved upon it to make what he called knockout.

Right, if you don't know the value of what you have, you will lose it. We are dealing with manipulative folks here, but never try hard to impress anyone, stick to the finest of your findings.

Don't validate evolution with vague idea inspired by any Yoruba myth, and don't glorify Yoruba beyond the ordinary purview of the subject at hand. Be professional.

And there was an account that emphasise of an apeman who was birthed by Ape and a female human, according to fairytales talked about by the Yorubas which science delved into and claim evolution of man.

That's no history, and it's not what evolution talked about, take it out of your topics for consideration as you develop the materials for your future thesis and publications.

Cite the exact examples of connections you intended in cross discipline culture/science relativity of your discovery, and let the readers make the decisions themselves, if they like let them agree, if not no wahala.

They have a brain for a reason. And always remember, the folks you are fighting here are making decisions for the readers in all available channels of manipulation, don't join them, or you are not different from them.

Meanwhile, the ancient Yorubas still acknowledged human beings who were giants or aptly taller humanoid. This also has been speculated and research work has also invented the dna for these people.

Don't hold brief for any funky science conclusions, let them researchers sell their story to the hogwash buyers, be a discoverer yourself, don't be a promoter for the next super story dear brother.

So, if I make reference to Neanderthal, is because, it remains a case study which supports Yoruba's act of immigrating from somewhere to many places before arrival in present day Nigeria. This is my view.

While on the Oyos, I do not have anything against her strength because through her Yorubas became renowned name in West Africa . But linguistically,she is highly younger and has been the most spoken by all.

There were no younger Yoruba honestly, those confusionist are just giving us history based on what their head can carry and what our intelligence can assimilate.

Please where is a special place in the world? Possibly everywhere or nowhere. Never give preferential treatment to any place, it will make you bias. Oyo could have happened anywhere else in Yoruba land.

It's not young, it attained political ascendancy that overshadowed that of her neighbors who has equal claims to the selfsame tradition (or whatever their tradition could have been) to the close of the 18th century.

Please, let us walk together in the same spirit and be above the educated manipulators. Computer has decentralized knowledge, let's use it to the fullest advantage.

The paradigm shift is that, science fiction has become religion. People who stands for the truth against science fiction are getting the Galileo treatment for their Inquisitions.

Please let's work harder. God bless us all.