Jen96:
clown ���� you have Bible but can't read. Is ppl like you that will be quoting your pastor instead your Bible. I told u something check n confirm it problem. Illiteracy

Again, God told you in Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 16 and John 10 vs 1 - 16 that He, Jesus Christ, alone is the Pastor/Shepherd over those who belong in His flock.
Jesus Christ is my Pastor and I am here confirming what He in fact said against what you believe.

CSTR2:
God did not give them that ability, the devil did.
To destroy lives.

Why would God give anybody the ability to see people's star?
What purpose would it serve?

So, even though all power belongs to God and is controlled by God, you are saying the devil has power to give men things against God?

Aganju849:
Kobo can fall hand
She can argue nonsense for Africa

I am simply asking them questions is all.

Kobojunkie:
Where did God tell you that He placed a thing in men to make them great?

Since the vast majority of men don't turn out great, are we to assume God did not put this star or glory in every man or maybe God forget to do so , and we are talking here of almost 7.5 billion here that seem to be missing this star or glory since they are not Iweala-great?

Glory Vandals? So, you are insinuating that somehow glory Vandals stole all 7.5 billion stars/glories of the world's population, those without greatness?

“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Jer1:5

That was for Jeremiah.
God already annoited him as a prophet even before he was born.
That ability to excel as a prophet for Jeremiah is his star.


The same applies to each human being.

It bears to reason that God has ordained us to fulfill specific purposes.
It may not be as prophet.

It may be as an engineer, a doctor, a teacher, a politician, e.t.c.
Everything you need fulfill that purpose and excel in it like no one else, has been deposited in you by God himself.

But when that thing has been stolen, you can never shine.
That ability to shine, prosper and excel in life is what we call "star".

Yes, star can be dimmed by the devil as a result of sin.
The vast majority of the world fall under the category.

While some have been practically stolen and transfered, especially in black Africa.

If you love your sister, take her to the nearest MFM church.

CSTR2:

1. “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
Jer1:5
That was for Jeremiah.
God already annoited him as a prophet even before he was born.
That ability to excel as a prophet for Jeremiah is his star.The same applies to each human being.

2. It bears to reason that God has ordained us to fulfill specific purposes.
It may not be as prophet. It may be as an engineer, a doctor, a teacher, a politician, e.t.c.
Everything you need fulfill that purpose and excel in it like no one else, has been deposited in you by God himself.

3. But when that thing has been stolen, you can never shine.
That ability to shine, prosper and excel in life is what we call "star".
Yes, star can be dimmed by the devil as a result of sin.
The vast majority of the world fall under the category.
While some have been practically stolen and transfered, especially in black Africa.

1. So, from a case which you identify as Jeremiah's, you attempt to then claim that the same God set up Okonjo Iweala from her mother's womb, not as a prophet, but as a leader in the very same world that God condemned through Jesus Christ and called His own out of?.

2. The same God who cursed the world and its systems from the time of Adam and Eve, ordain people from the womb, to become engineers, teachers, and politicians - all a part of the cursed system which He sent Jesus Christ to deliver all those who will trust and Obey Him from?

3. Then you go on to claim that this ordination decreed by the Almighty, is not guaranteed because men, through their devices are able to derail that which God has set in motion and this since you believe men have power to take away what God has set in place?


Have you ever read John 6 vs 25 - 44 before ? There Jesus Christ explains that those who follow Him will not longer work for food that spoils - the systems of this world are built for just that. Instead, Jesus Christ said that His followers, all of them, will instead work for the food that endures to eternity which only He can give to them.

Is God a deceiver?

Missmossy:
So in summary the man told her she has been used. It’s quite sad, however there is nothing God cannot do. She should be taken to MFM for intense prayers.

She has been used = that's final. There's nothing Jesus or God can do to make her unused.

The person whom i pity is the one who sleeps with her.

They've used her to buy Venza. Imsu rugged guh


Fine fine girls everywhere. That sch no be sch abeg

What I find surprising is the way people who I doubt even attend MFM will always recommend MFM in these issues.

Sebi they said their prayers are strange, die by fire die by fire, wahala come now they is shouting MFM, to criticize churches/ pastors is very easy.

Lots of times its we humans that put ourselves in problems, create problems for pastors and for churches. Point is its very easy to lose/ destroy but to gain back/ build is difficult same also applies in the spiritual realm. She has lost it by her own actions not by mistake, except by divine intervention will she gain it back

Let her go and do the MFM deliverance hopefully God will have mercy .

Iyaebe:
ladies should be very careful, a high percentage of men are now ritualist,don't exempt anyone of them so as to be on the safer side.Stop allowing men come close or have access to you easily. If you are broke,work and earn money and don't depend on any man for relief.

I beg to differ.
Boys are desperate.

Bros what is happening now adays cant be seen with the naked eyes just take her to a prayer house even if she is looking normal o.

Juju de wel well but God pass them o.

LiegeMan:
when we got home, the news didn't go down well with her mother as tears started rolling down her cheek, she is planning a way to take her daughter to different prayer houses.

Ammishaddai:
Bros the magnitude of such can't be discerned until she's taken to a true seer . But for now, taking her to a prayer house is the best option , and if she can endure the stress of dry fasting and prayer, then carry her to MFM for proper deliverance.

This girl has no problem but for only what the man said which still doesn't mean shiit, you guys shouldn't go look for problem for her by going to all these places and people.

Hmmm I will advise u people shout bring her to ibadàn prophet gf adetuderu just like tb joshua

Taking her to any prayer house will not solve the problem but only let her repent from sin and accept Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior.

Frankoso:
Taking her to any prayer house will not solve the problem but only let her repent from sin and accept Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior.

Why?

Odingo1:

There is God, but nobody have power to take anything from someone through sex or any other means. That is just naive superstitious beliefs of Nigerian and Africans. Anything you take out from someone body must be through physical surgery procedures and nothing else.

Hmmm!
You are "Very Correct".
Just continue with this mindset ooo.

This ain't spiritual shit, yall b watching too much Nollywood movies, perhaps too many superstitious tales. There's nothing wrong with the girl and the man is delusional, and probably mentally retarded. She's going to b fine, infact she'll go far in life, if she keep up with a positive mentality.

authority2006:




This girl has no problem but for only what the man said which still doesn't mean shiit, you guys shouldn't go look for problem for her by going to all these places and people.

Bros , I hope you remember you're Africa ; not America where they have health care and liberalism.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are thoroughly deceived. Sex is not a sin, and Jesus Christ made this clear to you in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32

If you don't even understand that simple one, then I am afraid it means whatever else you think you know of God and the things of God flow from the same stream of lies that one came from.

Hope, it is this same Biblical Text you are referring to:
Matthew 5:27-32
[27]“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
[28]But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
[29]If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
[30]And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. Marriage Is Sacred and Binding
[31]“Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’
[32]But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.


If Yes, then I must say You are very "Correct".
Just continue ooo.
#Maranatha

theophorus:


Hope, it is this same Biblical Text you are referring to:
Matthew 5:27-32
[27]“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’
[28]But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
[29]If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.
[30]And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell. Marriage Is Sacred and Binding
[31]“Furthermore it has been said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’
[32]But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.

Indeed, Lust after a woman is sin, not sex.

LiegeMan:
hello Nairalanders, sorry for the long write-up, it's LiegeMan again.
my name is Mr Omale liegeman and I'm from Kogi State, I thank you all for your kind advice on the other thread regarding my wife's past life and I can assure you all that I decided to put to use some of the advice from here ( yes, I read all the 590+ comments from A-Z) and it's yielding positive result as I've been experiencing happiness as never before in my life, though majority of Nairalanders who contributed in the previous post failed to understand my point of view because I was trying to make the post as snappy as possible. Thank you all once more.

Now, while I was planning ways to work things out with my wife with some of the advice that I gathered here, my Aunty who's married to an Igbo man from Imo state called me that her daughter, who's a student of Imo State University (Imsu) came home during weekend, Saturday precisely, locked herself up in a room and has been crying ever since without food nor water, and has refused to see nor talk to anyone.
I advice them to keep an eye on her so as to prevent her from attempting something stupid, she assured me that they broke into her apartment where she locked up Herself and brought her out.

So on Sunday, being 31 day of October, 2021, I left everything that I was doing in Makurdi and rushed to their village in Imo State, on getting there, I observed that both her hands and legs were tied and when I inquired why, she told me that it was an attempt to prevent her from escaping. I asked them to untie her, she was still crying when I asked her to go dress up that I'll be taking her out, she quickly went inside and dressed up we left the village for Orlu.

When we reached Orlu, we entered into a restaurant, and I started asking her what the problem was, I inquired if it was her boyfriend that broke her heart, she said no, I later succeeded in making her to tell me what the problem was because she's my closest ally.

when she opened up, she told me that she decided to do a little gbaje gbaje, ie do a little runs, she booked an appointment with a man and when she reached the said hotel, she and the Man started romancing and kissing and after awhile, the man started hissing uncontrollably, she inquired from the man what the problem was, he told her that what he wanted to take from her has been taken by someone else, in her confused state, she asked the man what he meant by that, the man looked her into her eyeballs and told her that she's empty, that what he intended taking from her has been taken by another person, he counted the said amount they bargain and handed it over to her and ordered her to get out of the hotel premises. I tried to console her by telling her that the man didn't mean what he said, that maybe his manhood disappointed him, he said those to cover his shame and I also advice her to be very careful because Xmas it at hand, immediately I told her those, she became relieved and stopped crying but I know right inside of me, that what the man said wasn't a joke at all.

when we got home, the news didn't go down well with her mother as tears started rolling down her cheek, she is planning a way to take her daughter to different prayer houses.

Now what exactly is this man talking about, what exactly did he take from her, is it her womb, destiny or what?
please house, any advice for this kid cousin of mine?
or way to find out what has been taken from her and get her liberated.

What you told your nephew wasn't far from true...
Years ago Konji was disturbing me seriously to an extend of booking an appointment with one beautiful hooker (note I never patronize prostitute before)
Well we met after she UnCloth and begin to torch me i felt very bad to the extent of wanting to throw up!
I dismissed her after i paid her the amount agreed, with an excuse that aint feeling ok.

You may be right... that old man was either guilty or unable to have an erection just like my case years ago.

She is okay don't give any kobo to Pastor/Imam for prayer, just convince her to change her lifestyle.

Well said! May Nigerians stop the act of having too many children and making the children fend for themselves.

Richy4:

In as much as she was traumatized by her experience, I still think you guys need to teach her the value of being contented with what she has or what the parent provided while she is on campus…while saying it/ teaching her that, no one should sugarcoated it…

Not trying to judge your approach towards this case OP, I just want to know… telling her to be careful that Christmas was approaching, is it for her to continue with that lifestyle while on campus but should be careful or is it to abandon that way of life totally? Just asking because the Euphemism you used to describe what she was doing on campus sounds like a beautiful and pleasant thing to the ears….

If she was this afraid to die, just imagine AIDS or other incurable diseases happening?...What just happened to her was the nightmare of every parent… I believe many parent reading this would be shuddering and imagining their little ones in such position….
Letting her make a concrete decision to abandon that lifestyle on campus is better than any prayer house you guys planned taking her to in my opinion.…

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. Balderdash.

They say they can't do without a man but when you ask them they will be ranting ....

She needs a serious prayer first she should ask God for forgiveness and pray hard so God can help her out spiritually and emotionally.

Blackdisciple:

She needs a serious prayer first she should ask God for forgiveness and pray hard so God can help her out spiritually and emotionally.

Why?

Kobojunkie:
Indeed, Lust after a woman is sin, not sex.

na wa. When u mean sex do u mean fornication n adultery? Sex isn't a sun but adultery n fornication

Jen96:
na wa. When u mean sex do u mean fornication n adultery? Sex isn't a sun but adultery n fornication

Go back and read what Jesus Christ taught you that adultery is in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32

Sex is the actual act, that is not sin.

Jesus Christ taught us that instead the sin is the Lust in your heart, which typically takes place long before the sexual act, ever occurs.

Kobojunkie:
See of destiny? And from what book of witchcraft/paganism did you learn it is indeed possible for a human to take this seed of destiny from another human?

It is not any book of witchcraft , the girls whose undies were stolen, I guess to you the Yahoo boys couldn't afford to buy new ones so they stole old ones to wash for their girl friends abi? The girls who ran mad after being dropped by yahoo boys were they destined to become mad? Not everything you read in books, some things are known by observations then documented in books

Kobojunkie:
Go back and read what Jesus Christ taught you that adultery is in Matthew 5 vs 27 - 32

Sex is the actual act, that is not sin.

Jesus Christ taught us that instead the sin is the Lust in your heart, which typically takes place long before the sexual act, ever occurs.

of course sex isn't a sin . 1 conrithians 6 vs 9 to 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Jen96:
of course sex isn't a sin . 1 conrithians 6 vs 9 to 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

You really need to decide for yourself if Jesus Christ is your Master/God or if Paul is, since you keep second guessing Jesus Christ by consulting Paul instead.

godliman:

It is not any book of witchcraft , the girls whose undies were stolen, I guess to you the Yahoo boys couldn't afford to buy new ones so they stole old ones to wash for their girl friends abi? The girls who ran mad after being dropped by yahoo boys were they destined to become mad? Not everything you read in books, some things are known by observations then documented in books

So, we shouldn't believe what God says instead we should believe the stories we hear people tell us, right?

We don't need confirmation, we just need to believe everything we think we see is true, right?