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Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 10:29pm On Dec 06, 2021 |
Rosement: Then in that case, how can Christianity be the true religion when it came through such a negative way? Your dad is a Christian , that's why you're a Christian. Name those countries. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 11:54pm On Dec 06, 2021 |
1Sharon:My dad's parents were muslims but yet he chose to become a Christian, my mother's parents were not really interested in any religion but yet she is a devoted Christian. I am not interested in arguing about religion because as a Christian I am not permitted to partake in baseless arguments. We are not of the same religion, we can never come to an argument, as long as our religion is different. Jesus wants us to love our neighbours and live in peace with everyone. To me my religion is the true religion, to you your religion is the true religion. My conclusion is that we are both right in our ways. Thank you. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 12:29am On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: So why did you quote me then? |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 12:45am On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:You said if Indians colonized Nigeria, you'd be shouting about Krishna right now, so just pipe down. I only tried to explain to you that your assumption about Christianity was wrong because Christians in some countries like China and India even suffered because of their belief, they were persecuted and punished but yet they stood their ground. Some Christians are even still persecuted, you can do your own findings about this. You have left the initial discussion, it was not about which religion is true or not true. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 1:47am On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Is that a lie? What is your fvcking point ? You are all over the place. How many Indians and Chinese are Christians? Isn't it a small minority? Yes if Indians were the colonizers YOU would be shouting about Krishna right now and possibly hate Christians. Did I tell you I follow any religion? So why do you think I care which religion is true? You're slow aren't you? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 3:18am On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:Whether you have a religion or not, you still have your beliefs and it is different from mine. I am not permitted to debate my belief with non-christians. In China, about 18.2% are Buddhists, 5.1% are Christians, 1.8% are Muslims and 0.7% adhere to other religious organisations. Christians are increasing in number every year in China and at least, there are few converts yearly in India also. The fact is that people are converting from no religion or other religions to Christianity. Some others religions for example Islam are also recording a large number of converts. Now that the colonization era is gone, why are both the formerly colonized and never colonized countries, still having a large number of their population converting to Christianity every year? Ethiopia was not colonized, yet the religion with highest percentage of followers in Ethiopia is Christianity. Japan was never colonized yet Japan citizens are still converting to Christians every year. I have provided the facts for you, you can choose to accept it or reject it. I am done with this discussion. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 8:52am On Dec 07, 2021 |
nans24:1 John 1:8-9 8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Don't get discouraged by the mockery of people and don't allow the devil accuse you. If the devil tells you that you are a sinner, tell him that you are a prodigal child and you can go back to your father to ask for forgiveness, tell him that only God your father can punish you or correct you but He (the devil) has no right to accuse you or judge you because he is just a slave that has sinned and has been condemned forever. Mock the devil, let him see you and run. Jesus loved you first, He died for you 2,000 years before you even existed so don't be encouraged, salvation is a gift not a wage for a workdone. If you ask God for forgiveness and you are willing to mend your ways, He will definitely accept you. Romans 5:5-6 5. “And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. 6 You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.” It is good that you acknowledge that you are not perfect. I understand that you are still struggling with sin, you want to be sinless and you are trying your best but the flesh is just too sinful. To overcome the flesh, you need the Spirit of Truth, which is the Holy Spirit. When the Spirit of Truth comes into you, He will teach you all things, He will also strengthen you and help you to overcome your weakness. Roman 8:7-8 7. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Galatians 5:14-17 14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 16. This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Focus more on Love, not on the laws because if you follow the law and refuse to love your neighbours, you are still sinning to God but if you decide to glorify God and also love your neighbours, you have completely followed the laws because by loving your neighbours, you are showing love to God. Matthew 22:37-40, 37. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38. This is the first and great commandment. 39. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Matthew 25: 35-46 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Having the knowledge of these things have helped me a lot when I'm in situations where I have to pick between Love and law, the mid-wives picked Love over law, they spared the lives of the Hebrew baby boys including Moses, they had to lie to the king to save the babies and God even blessed them but a foolish Christian might have refused to accept the responsibility, the king would have handed the responsibility over to someone else and the babies would have been killed. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by hupernikao: 12:00pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
LordReed: For an atheist it doesn't matter, benefit is benefit and not conviction. For most untrained psychologist, their belly is their God, where they can get, is where their worship lies. Lack of helper or help from the place they criticize is the root of their hatred. When that benefit start forthcoming back , they will deactivate their account on NL and open another to sing praises to God. Believing in God and Atheism are elements of man's conviction. It's not changed by material benefits or circumstances. Most of the ones here on NL, don't even know there are atheists who don't have access to internet or used it before, who don't have access to scientific research or evidence but hold conviction in atheism. They think atheism starts and end on internets, on advance knowledge, on thinking critically. Very false disposition. And childish view of life. This is the reason you will hear things like: atheism exposes you to critical thinking, makes you a knowledgeable person etc... Atheism has been before discovery of computers. Some ancient culture hold that conviction. I have known atheists even before some of the untrained psychologist here start wearing diapers. I have met uneducated atheist, educated one etc. So if I spot at distance an untrained psychologist trying to claim atheist, you should know where I am coming from. And they know, the reason they are fighting it through and through. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by LordReed(m): 12:10pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
hupernikao: Na wa o how does one believe in atheism? LMAO! |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 1:42pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: So why are you here!! Are you dumb? |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 2:15pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:Can't you partake in discussions without insults? I thought you were responsible enough to understand that this is a forum not your father's house, we are all free to give our personal opinion as long as it does not violate the rules and regulations of the forum. I did not insult you for your opinion, I only corrected you, you could choose to ignore it or debate it, you don't have right to insult me. Next time try to be matured and have some manners. Insulting people only shows your level of understanding. So when things don't go your way, you attack, you are so funny. Personally I don't partake in any religion arguments that will lead to religion wars or insult on my faith. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 2:19pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: So why have you been going back and forth with almost 24 hours? Classic christian |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 2:27pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:Our initial discussion had nothing to do with faith. It had to do with obvious fact that both Christians and non-christians could understand, if they do their researches about it. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 2:30pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Had nothing to do with faith? So what is this? Rosement: Please be gone. The more I interact with you, the more brain cells I lose. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 2:49pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:Those are obvious facts that I just used to explain my points, when I was explaining to you that Christianity would have still existed, even without colonisation. I did not condemn other people's religion. It is just like saying Buhari is the president of Nigeria, isn't that obvious, even people that are not from Nigeria can browser on the internet and find out. Did I say the religion with the highest percentage of followers is definitely the true religion? No, we didn't have such argument, that means you are going off the point. Everybody's religion is true to them, I don't argue with people about their faith. If your head cannot take it, I will advise to stop questioning, so that you will not start complaining to me later that you are having headache or that all your brain cells is gone because of this discussion. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 3:10pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: And In response to your initial mention I said this: 1Sharon: British people are alot smaller than the people they colonized. Duh! No, Christianity would not have existed without colonization. Christianity is a popular religion today because it was forced onto people. Islam is also a popular religion because it was forced onto people. You brought up Ethiopia, do Africans practise the brand of Christianity from Ethiopia or do they practise the kind gotten from European colonizers? Ethiopia is one country. If you are not trying to appeal to numbers, why do you keep bringing up numbers and statistics? Do you understand now or you want me break it down further? I suggest reading my responses multiple times |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 3:22pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:You complained yourself that you are losing your brain cells, why are you doing this to yourself? See now, you are beginning to go off the point and you are bringing back old conversations that have already been discussed. I cannot stress myself, I have stated the facts, you don't have to accept it, you have said enough, at least you participated. Please go and rest, it is for your own good. This is only an advice, the decision is in your hands. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 3:40pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Dolt. I brought those old responses back so you could comprehend because you are slow and didn't grasp my reply. Speaking of off-point, what does YOUR response have to do with my last response to you? Classic hypocritical Christian. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 3:51pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:I decided to stop the argument because it was baseless. I could not continue moving around a circle. I never said I was a Saint. Now that you have voiced out your opinion about me, I hope you are good. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 3:57pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Prove what I said was baseless. Address my points, you don't get to just call it baseless without addressing why. Yet here you still are |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 4:07pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:What will be the point of my explanation, when you won't understand? Our mentality is different, I cannot explain further. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 4:08pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Nah you're just slow |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 4:10pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:When you are matured enough to handle conversations, you can come and ask me questions. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 4:11pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: Why would I want to ask a christard questions? |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 4:18pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:Why would you want to ask a christard questions? it seems this question is for you, how I am suppose to know your mind? It is possible you directed it to me by mistake. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 4:21pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: The holy spirit cannot tell you my mind? Yeye. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by Rosement(f): 4:53pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon:What has the Holy Spirit got to do with petty discussions like this? I don't blame you, it is not your fault, I shouldn't have started a conversation with such an irresponsible and immature human being like you. May God has mercy on me and forgive me. You can't handle a simple conversation, you even have the guts to bring other people's faith to it. Anyway, it is your phone, you can type whatever you want to type, keep on typing. I really don't have time for an uncultured human being like you. If everybody on nairaland were like you, I would have preferred to deactivate my account on nairaland than to discuss with such people but there are a lot of reasonable people on nairaland. I have disagreed with some of people on nairaland but none of them have behavioured so mannerless. If everybody was like you, then this world would have been a very violent place and people would have even be murdered for voicing out their opinions. I am very sorry for speaking to you. Before now, I did not know the type of person you are, I will make sure this doesn't repeat itself. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 5:01pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
Rosement: You asked me how you're supposed to know my mind, and I said can't your holy spirit help you? Or of what use is he |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by hupernikao: 10:24pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
LordReed: Believe in atheism kè. Where do you see that? Me sef dey laugh here. |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by hupernikao: 10:28pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
1Sharon: Is this what you were taught the holy spirit does? To spy on your thoughts? |
Re: Nairaland "Atheists". This Message Is For You. by 1Sharon(f): 10:39pm On Dec 07, 2021 |
hupernikao: Shebi the holy spirit is what pastors use to prophesy about the future and people |
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