Bkayyy:

Women inherit their mothers exclusively but still inherit their fathers.

A woman can acquire as much land as she likes with her fathers inheritance in her husbands place.

Women do not
marry from their Umunna so they have no rights to land therein

stop lying

Bkayyy:



This is the culture of the wealthy Ndigbo.

in a so called egalitarian society?

There is culture of the wealthy?

aribisala0:
in a so called egalitarian society?

There is culture of the wealthy?

Poverty never existed in Igboland.

Had it been that your people had a marriage system. Had it been that Yoruba people had a marriage system, that their women don't stay at home and give birth, you won't be asking all these questions you are doing here.

Yoy will never see a Bini, Ibibio, Efik, Hausa or Nupe ask these questions you are doing here because their people have a marriage system. They understand what marriage means and what law of inheritance is.

Bkayyy:

Poverty never existed in Igboland.

Had it been that your people had a marriage system. Had it been that Yoruba people had a marriage system, that their women don't stay at home and give birth, you won't be asking all these questions you are doing here.

Yoy will never see a Bini, Ibibio, Efik, Hausa or Nupe ask these questions you are doing here because their people have a marriage system. They understand what marriage means and what law of inheritance is.

Usual delusional narcissistic nonsense.

Poverty never existed OK
That is a reality known only to Eboes ALL your neigbours and those they sold millions of you to for centuries know different

What about Osuism do you recommend that to others as a legacy of Eboe civilization?

aribisala0:
Usual delusional narcissistic nonsense.

Poverty never existed OK
That is a reality known only to Eboes ALL your neigbours and those they sold millions of you to for centuries know different

What about Osuism do you recommend that to others as a legacy of Eboe civilization?

troll

Is it not funny that on a thread of how you lived you cannot talk about what you worshipped or how?

Why?

You don't know
You have forgotten

What do you know about of ancestor worship compared to Christianity
Which practice is closer to being a real Eboe
You are derailed
You do not have a capacity for genuine self knowledge and compensate with childish fantasies

aribisala0:
Is it not funny that on a thread of how you lived you cannot talk about what you worshipped or how?

Why?

You don't know
You have forgotten

What do you know about of ancestor worship compared to Christianity
Which practice is closer to being a real Eboe
You are derailed
You do not have a capacity for genuine self knowledge and compensate with childish fantasies

troll

thebosstrevor1:


Nsibidi isnt a writing language but a pictogram or syllabograms.

If Nsibidi was actually a writing language then it would have been developed, look at the English language, the old king james version english developed to the present English language.

Why are the igbos not writing in Nsibidi?

You claim the igbos were not walking about naked but in skimpy clothes but there are lot of pictorial evidence that showed otherwise they were barely covered.

An hunter gathering society is the first stage of civilization, so how can they be more intelligent than an agricultural or pastoral tribes.

Unfortunately, many African tribes haven't passed the hunter gathering, agricultural and pastoral stages of civilization.

Btw, most pastoral tribes are known as the warrior tribes and elite tribes, small in number but love to be the ruling class, this trace have been found in the tutsi tribe, maasai ,fulani etc.

Don't stylishly smuggle Fulani supremacists agenda into the conversation.
The Fulani were the weeping boys under Songhai and Mali empire, they were marginalized, tossed around and ridiculed by the more powerful Bambaras and other Malian ethnic groups that were in charge.

The Fulani control only started when they were taught the art of nation building by the Songhai, only in the 18th century. And even with that, they were mostly a savage tribe.

That doesn't excuse the propaganda being pushed by the Igbos.

Shiver99:
First of all, the history of Igbo civilisation stretches to as far back as at least around 3000bc.

Even with extremely limited resources; archaeological digs by enterprising Igbo sons and daughters have yielded sites that hold some of the oldest iron-smelting areas on earth dating to around 2000bc.

As well as evidence of organised economic centres dating back several millennia. This is amazing especially noting the adverse affect of tropical climates on archaeological sites as well as the durability of iron artefacts over long periods of time.

so as other cultures,soo wat....??

you igbos suffer hubris....

Bkayyy:

Women inherit their mothers exclusively but still inherit their fathers.

A woman can acquire as much land as she likes with the inheritance she got from her fathers at her husbands place.

And for the last time, she marries to live with her husband not like you people that remain and breed in their fathers house.

See that guy is always looking for something negative about Igbo, left to me, I will not pay him attention but since this is an opportunity to put more information out there, I will send an account where MACGREGOR LAIRD AND R. A. K. OLDFIELD in 1837 met an Eboe woman who had possession and inheritance

aribisala0:
Usual delusional narcissistic nonsense.

Poverty never existed OK
That is a reality known only to Eboes ALL your neigbours and those they sold millions of you to for centuries know different

What about Osuism do you recommend that to others as a legacy of Eboe civilization?

Don#t you have other pressing issues to attend to? I heard the graves are your new gold fields. Go dig away and let us glory in our narcissism. Oh! it is impossible, you will kill yourself to be Igbo, so you cannot stay away.

Bkayyy:

The more we go deep into this the more you will understand why the whites called Igbo political system the perfect democracy.

The more you see the huge gap our ancestors gave your primitive savages.

You are very correct. Even in the 1920s. This was well documented. The democracy and what Igbo women did was quite remarkable.
Nwanne, you know I come supporting with facts.

Ekealterego:


Don#t you have other pressing issues to attend to? I heard the graves are your new gold fields. Go dig away and let us glory in our narcissism. Oh! it is impossible, you will kill yourself to be Igbo, so you cannot stay away.

Dry

aribisala0:

Dry

troll

Igboid:
There is this precolonial picture of Igboland I once stumbled somewhere, where the people created a layered (stratified) viewing/sitting stands in the community Ilo/ama, where spectators sat to watch the local wrestling tournaments or even during community gathering for meetings.

I have been searching for that picture with no success for days now.
I was proud our ancestors thought of such innovation.

Is this what you are talking about?

An area described as a school {public place of learning} by colonists.

Although, I am unsure of whether this was induced by colonists or not.

Sofa-like furniture, common in some Igbo homes. This was likely supposed to be covered in matting.

Meeting houses

IGBOSON1:


You know what they used for fuel, and how they lit fires back then?

Igbos used various sources of light. ie lamps, torches, etc.

For the lamps, it would have been palm oil and a wick, likely.

For torches, it would have been likely mostly firewood.

Igbos loved smoked fish. The type sourced and cooked from local rivers and the coasts was of higher demand to the populace than the dried fish that Europeans exported.

An Igbo oven below, used for baking or smoking fish.

More war-like scenes...


Igbo men wearing armor

The last picture is of Igbo war caps/helmets

IGBOSON1:


I wish there had been a widespread use of more durable building materials back then. That way, those pyramids might still be standing till today...like the ones in Egypt built more than 3,000 years ago!

You know the specific purpose of the Nsude pyramids?

You'll have to think about climate as well.

Earthern structures created in the desert will stand for a longer time than buildings made of more durable plastered clay (like Igbos used) in the middle of a humid rainforest.

Igboid:
I noticed groups who never had Indigenous cloth making, and had to depend on Mohammadians bringing "Konkosa" ( that's what we call Agbada and Babariga in Igbo) to them, talking about Igbo civilization not having clothing.

Let it be known that just as the Igbo are the most advanced black race in terms of metallurgy in the area called Nigeria in precolonial era, so were we in clothing weaving.
Akwete became the most famous cloth weaving centre in Igboland, just like Awka became the most black smiths, but as a matter of fact, there were hundreds of cloth weaving centres scattered all over Igbo interior in precolonial area, and the quality and quantity of their products were unmatched by those from elsewhere outside Igboland and within the area we call Nigeria

Willam Balfour Baike was in Igboland in 1850s, and this is what he had to say about Igbo textile industry.
He actually called our products "Fancy clothes".
Do you blame him, the clothes were so beautiful and elegant that he had to use that choice of word.
If we never wore our fancy clothes everyday in such a way to cover every part of our body, it's because of our hot and humid rainforest which wasn't compatible with heavy clothing.

Nigeria is indeed a funny place. This is something concerned Igbos have been trying to ask them, but to no avail. How can your claim to fame be the fact that you stole an Arab man's clothing?

That was how some river folk were calling Igbos uncivilized because the minorities had completely adopted the clothing of European porters that came to the coast and were now calling it their traditional dress.

Igboid:


Those were mushroom kingdoms disguising as empires.
Who did they defeat?

Oyo empire was ransacked by Nupe people, Oyo ile was seized and have become Nupeland ever since then.

All Yorubas went to British to beg them to colonize you just to free yourselves from senseless Kiriji fights you were having with yourselves. You were so pathetic you couldn't master the simple act of conflict resolution among yourself that you resorted to submitting to British colonialism willfully to save yourself from yourselves.

Sokoto and Bornu were easily brought under British control. Is that one an empire?

Bini was ransacked and raised to ground with Oba hounded like a common thief to Calabar just in a matter of 5 days.

And these are what you call empires?

My Igbo ancestors were teaching your Yoruba ancestors superior metallurgy skills.
Our clothing industry was so superior that William Balfour called our clothes "Fancy clothes", whereas you needed Portuguese and Mohammedians to supply you with clothes.

Ndiigbo both mounted the fiercest and most sustained resistance to British colonialism in this area called Nigeria today.
Be they the Enu-anis, the Aros and allies, the Ezza, etc.

You are not Igbo match Biko. When we speak, you should sit down and take notes.

Nigeria is the sort of place where the people that should keep silent are boasting, while the ones that should boast, keep silent.

The ones that loved to claim that Igbos living on trees, or wherever, you'll be shocked if you take a cursory glance at their own history.

A traditional example.

You have folks like thebosstrevor1, who claim that Igbos were living in huts of palm fronds.

Out of interest, you ask about their own architecture, expecting to see glass skyscrapers and coliseum-like structures. Only to look in shock when you see their own traditional houses

Typical architecture somewhere in the north in the first pictures

Compared to typical Igbo architecture in the last picture

Pictures of an ancient city in the sahel...

cc thebosstrevor1

The first two are an igbo chief's house, (interior and exterior)

The last two pictures are a northern chief standing in front of his palace and a royal northern house. (It's hard to get pictures).

Out of confusion, you ask them why they think that they were more advanced than the Igbos.

Only to find out it was because they had one mortal man feeding fat off the labor of an entire populace; so. To them, this is the hallmark of civilisation.

From an Igbo perspective, this is very odd. But you just have to get used to it. These folks are very proud of having absolute monarchies, even though it meant their living standards were far below many Igbos.

obaaderemi:
I thought some of you said you were Jews.

Very confused set of people.... People wey dey tie leaf for body, dey chop demself that time.

Anyways,

Floor plans for Igbo buildings

More floor plans of Igbo buildings,

Notice how some floor plans show that the buildings are multi-storey? The fact that it is said that the first multi-storey building in Nigeria was built in the 20th century and people blindly parrot it, is hilarious.

This is actually a drawing of an efik compound. But the academic paper that I sourced it from used Igbo compound building plans as a point of reference to describe this style, because of it's great similarity to common Igbo architecture. A key difference, would be that Igbo compound walls are much thicker and larger.

Sourced from: { 2017, Zones of Entanglement: Nigeria's Real and Imagined Compounds
Joseph Godlewski
Syracuse University }