Codepain:

Everything a girl achieved in this life is because of sacrifice men in her life made for her.
Her father, brothers, husband, male boss etc.
If by merits fewer women will amount to something

They are actually the people that gets most love unconditionally

Ladycewhy:

Mother go through labor pain
Some mothers actually pay school fees
Mother do maid work for her husband and kids
Mother is the psychologist for the child,knows their moods, is the first to know when they are sick .
Wife, tolerate and kill her dreams to raise a family.


So tell us which challenges men go through that women are immune to?

Am sure most men wouldn't mind switching roles. You take up the role of breadwinner and fulfill your dream, let the man take up your responsibility.

Ladycewhy:
Tell that to your ancestors who thought it was wise to tell a girl child to sit at home while the boy child goes to school.

Now that you are allowed to go to school and graduate, have that stopped you from demanding that your man pay the bills ?

Truvelisback:
Let me be honest with u. I think they behaved this way because many ladies are being materialistic. They have made materialism as their basis/condition for their love for men. Did u read on fp abt Natasha, who said, the reason she hasn't been in a relationship/marriage is because she hasn't seen a man that is richer than her.

Don't mind that Dundee. It has been proven time and again, that men have more love to give to women, than the other way round.

Codepain:

That's not the crux of the matter. I, unlike you know the important and complimentary role played by both gender in society.
I never played down role of mothers.
The point I'm making is males make life easier for females and sensible people don't denied that.
We hired the first female programmer in our company and the only person that's unhappy about her is the female secretary

She might not even be most qualified for the job among applicants. But probably was done for gender inclusiveness

CaveAdullam:


1. Women will always blame men for their lapses and failures. Social media and the advent of feminism, gender equality and inclusion has provided a leeway for women to express their independence, yet, nothing to write home about them.
Even if a woman becomes God, subtract all the men from the equation and they will run heaven to the drain. Even in the Bible fictional tale, Eve caused the fall of man and yet 'God' blamed Adam her husband.

2. Not that men don't like women or vice versa but that their sexual selection strategy is conflicting. Women are opportunistic, emotional, instinctual and always goes where the bag is bigger, ladder is higher, and walls stronger: Hypergamy. While men are the ideal lovers: sacrifices and care for the women and children.

The conflict here is that men want women to reciprocate their good deeds but women are unable to do so even when the man falls low. Women always stretches their tiny necks like giraffes to something always higher and forget the good deeds of the man that once treated them with care and love.

3. Men may prefer women for their wombs, vaginas and breasts while women value men for their money, power, status and attention.

However, this conflict as a result of their sexual selection strategy hasn't stopped men and women from coexisting as there has been a whole lot of compromises along the way in order to get better. Simply put, the sexes evolved to be complementary to one another, that is, the strength of one covers for the weakness of the other.

4. You are just cherry picking nonsensical claims: bride price, ritual killings, female genital mutilation blah blah blah to justify your assertions. Of course, you are very wrong.

Female genital mutilation is now a thing of the past even though the cultural reasons behind it was to curb female libido and promiscuity. However, male circumcision is still in vogue, infant baby boys still getting severe pains as a result of sexual hygiene purposes. No two ears hear about this.

Male and female offsprings has been used for ritual killings in the past, reason because the "land must be cleanse of demons causing famine, diseases, drought"...men, women, children all benefited. If you're referring to the present ritual killings in Nigeria, then blame it on female promiscuity, myopic tendency and greediness; same way you'll blame young boys that are killed daily as a result of cultism.

5. You make mention of bride price as if there's anything men gain solely through marriage but rather pains and agony. Men diminish themselves in marriage because they want wives and children to be happy. Despite that, all they get most times is henpecking and inveighing from spouses and sometimes their children. Offsprings are of benefits to mothers and fathers. Even children still prefer their mums to their dads.

6. Men: Short life expectancy. Highest number of homeless people. Highest number of prisoners. Highest number of school dropouts. Longer jail term. Highest number of work casualties. So, what are men enjoying actually?

7. Do you know how many men from yester years has losed their lives as a result of war? If women were truly hated, they would have gone alongside with men to wage war and bring prisoners. But the love men has for women and children, women aren't conscripted, after all, they are the weaker sex.

8. You lots, women and feminists should be grateful to men, had it been possible, you lots would have gone into oblivion long time ago assuming males can reproduce on their own.

"Abeg getat".

Edited: God blamed Adam her husband.

Am giving you a toss to a loving wife(not a trouble maker like op), long life and prosperity

SarutobiEky:
men hate women yet when you look at the entertainment industry na una dey buy the latest Royce, dey fly jet up and down courtesy foolish big gods". There are certain countries in the world where the rules are made to favour women... You divorce your wife, she rakes half your property. Women are treated with kid gloves, while the men are left to fend for themselves. Should I tell you about how some silly men would leap to the defence of a female in a scuffle with the opposite sex without asking what happened?

Say there's an emergency now, a war breaks out or something, a pandemic, alongside children, women are first taken care of before they start to think about rescuing men.

Sister, youre very wrong. If indeed men hated women, there would be no place for feminism to thrive in the first place

That stupid idea wouldn't have seen the light of the day

Biglittlelois:
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A truckload of trash.....as expected....combined with lies and whatabouism with a little dose of Kruger effect...


The earlier you dings realise feminism is not out to shortchange your way of life, the better for you all to be at peace....on a second thought, enlighten yourselves through Google with a beginners guide on the definition of feminism, then go from there

The next time you want to gaslight, truth or a semblance of truth should be your watchword. Eve never blamed Adam for the apple, instead Adam blamed Eve for giving him the apple as if she forced the apple down his throat, which coincidentally is what is prevalent today, you men will never take the blame for your wrong doing, you all prefer to push it to the so called "weak" gender just to feel good with yourselves

Op made good points here that everyone has noticed, from multiple threads of insults and degradation of women, to pure hateful lies and assumptions. She took us back to the past of how it all began, from female mutilation to education denial, bride price, rights to vote and so many ills, all you could come up with is "cherry picking" as if it never existed

Look around you today, you keep using the rants of women being opportunistic as if it is the time of old where women are married off to men who can provide while she makes the home, and even at that, our mamas are still hard working market women and farmers. You claim we are opportunistic, how many of you will marry a woman who isnt working or can't stand on her own today? Women everywhere, from the market place to shops and offices are doing exploits yet you come here to rant on and on, whereas you all are cheating working mothers in the process cos at the end of the day, they are made to have multiple responsibilities of taking care of the children, the home and run 9-5 jobs, while you men only run 9-5 jobs

You men destroy the world from the time of old till now, from world war 1&2, the holocaust, Hiroshima, Pearl Harbour, to the corruption nuisances of Nigeria, armed robbery, cultism, kidnapping, terrorism etc. Look at what China, Russia and USA are doing today, showing and threatening each other because of ego and comparison of who has more military might than the other, you men keep destroying the world over and over again and you expect women to fight your wars for you because? If women were to rule the world today, there will be no wars, instead every nation will be keeping malice which is a good thing cos there will peace, life long peace, so get this fact into your thinking faculty today. And yet in all the nonsense you men keep doing in the world today, you don't see any female ranting and crying and wailing about it making it a gender war, instead you little men will scratch your faces in pain cos women did this and that, opening threads filled with gnashing of teeth on women, look at the redpill thread, more than one thousand pages filled with dissecting women(I can never understand the level of joblessness and excruciating pains going on there, it is an abnormal behavior cum mental disorder)like we are the cause of world problem, you men caused segregation, gender war, and tribal racism on this forum, go to politics section and see how emotionally daft you all are intellectually with your tribal wars,

You guys are not logical beings, you have shown that over and over again with your consistent cries every single day, and Op is simply right in all she said, she made good points except you want to twist instances and real life issues just to suit your baseless narrative, accept these facts and move on, we are not your problem, you are your own problem, so do well to deal with your insecurities and hatred of women without dragging us into it.

And you have a pretty look on your profile but nothing gracious in what you typed, just saddening, beauty without brain,

Una get time and energy to be arguing with women? I don pass that level. Gentlemen and ladies, who wanna break bread with men and enjoy my Cold Stone & oryza sativa on cold?

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Good most men are nothing but misogynist..we don't even have to go too far it's here on nairaland..they bash women all day all night..

And you know what makes me glad?the fact that you are confident enough to make a post about it..I really appreciate this cos it's nothing but the truth..

So, Your life revolve around nairaland only? The fact that some choose to bash women on this platform doesn't justify all the men in this world. I mean, I love women and I love everything about them.

JESHAL:




And you have a pretty look on your profile but nothing gracious in what you typed, just saddening, beauty without brain,

It's not my fault your level of thinking and brain capacity is next to zero.

Martinez39s:
Una get time and energy to be arguing with women? I don pass that level. Gentlemen and ladies, who wanna break bread with men and enjoy my Cold Stone & oryza sativa on cold?

How will I get some of those things? I need it asap.

Biglittlelois:



It's not my fault your level of thinking and brain capacity is next to zero.

I'm not here to argue, I'm just making an observation, pretty lady like you insulting like this, very rude and mannerless on an anonymous forum speaks a lot ,no character,spoilt and entitled, your beauty will bait weak men but a man of substance that knows his worth will reject your bad attitude, you are a poor bet for a wife or mother, beauty doesn't last forever, when your prime years are over you're left with nothing

Martinez39s:
Una get time and energy to be arguing with women? I don pass that level. Gentlemen and ladies, who wanna break bread with men and enjoy my Cold Stone & oryza sativa on cold?

Fair point, Martinez, arguing with women is a futile endeavor, but I think counter points from the likes of Cave are welcome on threads like this. We don't want toxic women like the op, with their pack of lies and misinformation, to sway impressionable minds in the wrong direction.

CaveAdullam:


How will I get some of those things? I need it asap.

Abandon your engine oil and fast for 40 days and nights. You are now messing with the creme de la creme, and my Cold Stone and sativa don't come easy.

CaveAdullam:
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The blame game again and again.

Violence is an evolved nature in men, but yet it is through this violence men has used in turning the world around. Violence is a trait that enabled men to protect their territories, resources, wives and children. It was a survival strategy against enemy tribes and wild animals. However, we are no longer in the wild and violence has decrease greatly.

By the way, intra-specie violence amongst women has also been researched on as women were violent towards other females that has males with resources. The hidden female oestrus cycle is a fact that correlates with this fact. So, you see men and women used violence as a tool for their survival.

Now what about the innovations, discoveries, inventions, science and technology etc that is prevalent as a result of men's effort? You see, this blame game always make you all blind to what's truly the reality and make you settle down for the exceptions.

Women now has greater freedom as never before, and we are still waiting for a landslide victory in many sectors that's as a result of female exclusivity. Still waiting for you all to demonstrate your ultimate independence.

"Abeg getat".

Have a nice day.

All noise no substance

Females are prone to violence yet it cannot be proven anywhere to have destroyed nations, civilisations and stability that is the point, not the ad hominem on display to prove a baseless point of this gender, that gender. Violence is on the increase from you men all over the world starting from Nigeria to terrorism and all other little nuisances on display, you claim to be the pillar of inventions and civilisation, yet you destroy it all then say it is part of life, and instead of focusing on how to tame the destruction trait, you choose to channel your energy on a lesser, irrelevant, unimportant cause on a gender that has nothing on you, that has no lasting effect on the society and the world at large which is the point of this thread. You all display high level of emotional imbalance when it comes to women every single day here with all form of nasty comments and threads with no head way, no tact, just rumblings and crassness on display,

The point is we are not your problem, your problem is your insecurities and low level esteem, we don't even have to love us, you can stay in your lane and deal with your issues of women and lick your wounds in peace, stop displaying emotional tantrums, it speaks low of your gender.

JESHAL:


I'm not here to argue, I'm just making an observation, pretty lady like you insulting like this, very rude and mannerless on an anonymous forum speaks a lot ,no character,spoilt and entitled, your beauty will bait weak men but a man of substance that knows his worth will reject your bad attitude, you are a poor bet for a wife or mother, beauty doesn't last forever, when your prime years are over you're left with nothing

And this right here is where females will always have more edge in the society, look at your wanton display of bitterness and envy just cos you looked at my profile, you let beauty cloud your sense of reasoning and judgement, see the way you mentioned beauty, pretty more than three times instead of focusing on the message being passed, you let it determine your next line of thought just to prove nothing

When they see beauty they see bait, spoilt, entitled, weak men, no character, poor wife, poor mother, what else truly we are not your problem, your insecurities and low esteem is your problem, go fix it.

Double0h7:
Don't you children get bored of this same topic

HUMANS ARE EVIL AND MESSED UP and that's why God has hell waiting for us. Hell doesn't discriminate on the grounds of gender.

Just be a decent human being and aim for excellence and God will reward you with heaven.

When you believe in nothing, you'll fall for anything.

See how stupid your God is? He has hell waiting for his creation? So where did the evil you are blaming humans for come from?

MrCuteking:


You’re very intelligent. Believe me, no matter how solid your point is, it will never convince a stubborn woman.

Your point is the best on this thread.

"A woman does not want the truth; what is truth to women? From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than the truth - her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

https://www.nairaland.com/6940959/women-essentially-children-waec

Great0ne1:

That stupid idea wouldn't have seen the light of the day

no mind her.

Biglittlelois:



And this right here is where females will always have more edge in the society, look at your wanton display of bitterness and envy just cos you looked at my profile, you let beauty cloud your sense of reasoning and judgement, see the way you mentioned beauty, pretty more than three times instead of focusing on the message being passed, you let it determine your next line of thought just to prove nothing

When they see beauty they see bait, spoilt, entitled, weak men, no character, poor wife, poor mother, what else truly we are not your problem, your insecurities and low esteem is your problem, go fix it.

Shaming tactics typical of the feminine when they want to prove a point, and yes I stated beauty as an observation, I repeat again I'm not arguing, I'm just expressing my disappointment,you understand my point but you just want to drag the issue, hope you don't learn the hard way, cultivate feminity and character that's all I'm saying, you are too masculine by embracing Feminism, it's repulsive especially to high valued men, your beauty will just waste for nothing because of your attitude, just a piece of advice, anyway hope you get my point, take care

Femzaremz:
See how stupid your God is? He has hell waiting for his creation? So where did the evil you are blaming humans for come from?

I hope you feel better now

Ladycewhy:
Most men dont like women.


I have personally heard a married man say " after devil fear women" and it struck me hard. If he feels that way about women in general ,then one would want to wonder why he is even married to a woman in the first place.

There's a point in what he said,
It's just a saying to fear the ability of women.

Just as they said, behind every successful man, There's a woman and behind every failure of a man, their are women...

CaveAdullam:


At least the counter points made your pvssy drips. Hahahaha!

For the third paragraph, an intelligent person will know the difference between rules and their exceptions. And it is these exceptions---the few men in power and government compared to the majority of men among the masses you all normally draw your points from.

Rules count, not the exceptions. At least from there, solutions can be proffered.

Have a nice day.

Bon voyage!

Men like you are prolly 0.5 seconds na dem dey make noise pass.


Rules count not exceptions . Oga your fellow men are making life miserable for you that's the translation . I am sure when you turn hundred you will still be proffering solutions .

Let me collectively address the dogs that have been barking, settle down boys, calm your nerves, I see your spits and heard your loud incoherent noises. Funny how many of you nitwits have encouraged the anti women campaign but now want to turn around and feel some kind of way when women accept that they are not liked.

As for the assumptions on my relationship status and everything related to it, i am even shocked that by now I have not seen "evening newspaper" , . I mean ,I just have to be one bitter old lady no man wants to be saying the facts like this .


And dear women who have seen and gotten the message ,I know most of you don't want to comment and have to deal with rabid dogs in your mention, I see your shares ,I see your likes , stay safe out there lovelies .

Ladycewhy:
Let me collectively address the dogs that have been barking, I see your spits and heard your loud incoherent noises. Funny how many of you nitwits have encouraged the anti women campaign but now want to turn around and feel some kind of way when women accept that they are not liked.

As for the assumptions on my relationship status and everything related to it, i am even shocked that by now I have not seen "evening newspaper" , . I mean ,I just have to be one bitter old lady no man wants to be saying the facts like this .


And dear women who have seen and gotten the message ,I know most of you don't want to comment, I see your shares ,I see your likes , stay safe out there lovelies .

No profile pics for a lady, it shows you are either unattractive or average looking at best, embracing Feminism makes you smart enough not to upload it, because they will use it to attack you, at least Biglittlelois has the esteem to post hers but she has no character, but you I speculate you are a 4/10

JESHAL:



No profile pics for a lady, it shows you are either unattractive or average looking at best, embracing Feminism makes you smart enough not to upload it, because they will use it to attack you, at least Biglittlelois has the esteem to post hers but she has no character, but you I speculate you are a 4/10

She's 100% more intelligent than you and most of the men who have commented. You all just came here and confirmed her op. If we were to use this thread as a case study then op has been vindicated.

I take comfort in knowing that the reality in my everyday life and interactions don't mirror the op but if I was to use this forum as a measuring stick then I would take op seriously.

JESHAL:



Shaming tactics typical of the feminine when they want to prove a point, and yes I stated beauty as an observation, I repeat again I'm not arguing, I'm just expressing my disappointment,you understand my point but you just want to drag the issue, hope you don't learn the hard way, cultivate feminity and character that's all I'm saying, you are too masculine by embracing Feminism, it's repulsive especially to high valued men, your beauty will just waste for nothing because of your attitude, just a piece of advice, anyway hope you get my point, take care

You shame me cos of beauty yet you say I shame you? The hypocrisy and effrontery though

Funny fact of life is that, your thoughts of me is irrelevant, unimportant, paper weight to say the least, it ends here, in this space, on a faceless forum,

You have been noticed, goodbye.

Biglittlelois:



You shame me cos of beauty yet you say I shame you? The hypocrisy and effrontery though

Funny fact of life is that, your thoughts of me is irrelevant, unimportant, paper weight to say the least, it ends here, in this space, on a faceless forum,

You have been noticed anyway, goodbye.

Mtchewwww
Prov11:22-Like a gold ring in a pig’s snout is a beautiful woman who shows no discretion.

The scripture is valid Sha

Take care

Ladycewhy:
Yes you heard me right, men don't like you, they like your biological makeup ,they may like the fact that you have a vagina , womb and breasts but as a fellow human being , they don't like you.

Let's look back at history, in the days of old, Virgin girls were a thing for sacrifices and blood gift to the gods, then came the snatching of babies frome their mothers all in the name of twins was an abomination, then there was the selling of their daughter all in the name of bride price and the only time she was allowed to return to her father's house was in a body bag.

Still in doubt if men like you as a human first?

Ok then came the widow maltreatment, then there was a concensus to mutilate the vagina of women just to keep them under control, then came the refusal to allow them go to school. Still in doubt?

Do you still doubt the anti women campaign going on in this forum and even on the streets? Have you checked the ratio of ritual killing and see that women are the most victims?Have you heard the phrase " daughters of eve, fish brain, after devil fear women?" Well I am sure you atleast get the picture .

You're a Goddess babe but don't let these observations make you bitter, let your knowledge make you better. You won't fall for the manipulation and tactics of smaller men but instead you will take the best of the batch and create the life you deserve. Women have always known what you have stated and we manage it like that because what other options do we have.

I've been married for over a decade and what I learnt is that a man is a lot like a child, he's hard work but if you have a good one then you can extract what you need, tolerate what you can, and put your foot down when you can't tolerate certain things. Don't fight him because you'll lose but instead manipulate and be strategic and prioritize your peace of mind. Decide from the onset what you need from a man and make that your none negotiable, because he can't be everything you need.

We women have our faults and weaknesses too and men manage those and take what they can.

Double0h7:


She's 100% more intelligent than you and most of the men who have commented. You all just came here and confirmed her op. If we were to use this thread as a case study then op have been vindicated.

I take comfort in knowing that the reality in my everyday life and interactions don't mirror the op but if I was to use this forum as a measuring stick then I would take op seriously.

She just spewed prepackaged narrative for her ideology to describe objective reality of the intergender dynamics which is fallacious and misleading and far from the truth on ground, many of what she talked about is based on victimhood mentality based on men are oppressors and women are oppressed which was never the case but a revisionist of history because most of women were handicapped because of lack of mordern inventions like tampons, birth control pills which men created to better the life's of women which allowed for the freedom women enjoy today