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Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 7:07am On Apr 05, 2022 |
This one you're running like a formula one race car, slow down and read this: Isaiah 45:7 I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. If your god is responsible for the above, why do you guys still pray against Satan? In one breath you try to paint your god as all loving, but can you really hide the fact that he's ill tempered? Below is your comment; O Lord let your day of Anger Come soonest You called Him "ill tempered" yet, He has not yet visited you to pour His Temper on you. Is an ill tempered person ever patient and long suffering? Go read your old testament well and see records and accounts of despicable things purportedly done by your god and his servants Even to your fellow co-creations, slightly higher in age than you, you are respectful, is it now He greater than you, you would disrespect? Guy, respect is reciprocal, I've had to disregard and disrespect older people if and when they cross my line or disrespect me so I don't know what you're speaking of. Except who you're referring to is a criminal who would exert and demand respect through violence in which case the law of the jungle takes priority, kill or be killed, In which case, if I'm able to draw first, I'll kill the motherfuucker. I therefore Curse you, in His Name and by His Authority that Goodness shall never enter your hands, your suffering shall increase from day to day, and you would know no joy only pain, until the day of His Anger. Finally, you resort to the last trick in the book employed by pastors and cultists, if all else fails, threaten violence. But I got news for you, the venom of a snake does nothing to the back of the tortoise. So take your empty threats and bullying else where. If these things actually work, don't you think all evils would have ceased in Nigeria and all evil people would have perished? But you refuse to think. Dtruthspeaker: 2 Likes |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 7:12am On Apr 05, 2022 |
Shit didn't add up. Read the Bible, read historical books, and truly saw religion for what it was; snake oil and brainwashing tool. Plus I came to understand world politics and realised a European religion can not really serve my black ass. Hismasterpiece: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 7:29am On Apr 05, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: LMAO! |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 7:31am On Apr 05, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: And where is your own skepticism of your beliefs? 1 Like |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Dtruthspeaker: 7:56am On Apr 05, 2022 |
mariovito: Simple! Ignoring the use of an evil Bible, the creator of a car to made it to move forward does he not create something to make it stop? Is there up without a down? right without left? In without out? Did you ever consider these balances and controls out of place and called the creator of the things having these things evil? No, you never did. You even praised the creator and called him very smart and good. So how then can you not see that your fellow man creator, is simply replicating what his own Creator had done in and on His own creations which is this world and everything in it? I'll be back to the rest of your post! |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 8:20am On Apr 05, 2022 |
I don't think your analogy of the car maker and how he makes it move and stop is synonymous with God being the doer of good and evil. They're miles apart and parallel. Assuming without conceding that your analogy is true and correct, why do Christians still hold Satan responsible for evil when god has already said he's the doer of all evils? The case of Job is a clear example. God was an accomplice to whatever happened to job, for what reason? He's sadistic pleasure. Dtruthspeaker: |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Dtruthspeaker: 11:00am On Apr 05, 2022 |
mariovito: And this is why you people do not see clearly. You are looking at 2 different Issues at the same time, like attempting solving simultaneous equation without understanding them and how to properly resolve them. Like simultaneous equation, each issue is resolved separately first. First, you say that my car maker and the creative abilities of man is far apart and different from God's own act, YET YOU DID NOT LAY HOW IT IS DIFFERENT! Then, you join a second issue of Satan's evil responsibility and liability to it. These are 2 independent issue and they can not be taken together. Therefore, put to rest the first issue, of the Rights and Power and evilness or otherwise of Creators in view of Creator God as mini-creator man. Let us see if your objection has any valid substance. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:13pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
LordReed: I have sufficient evidence to back my beliefs so no need for skepticism |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:14pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
mariovito: So you believe religion is political? |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:14pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
LordReed: And what's so funny? |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:16pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
mariovito: Lol.... the things i have experienced move me to believe in the spiritual |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:21pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
elated177: I said he was an atheist OF SOME SORT... and i cited his demand for evidence as my reason I didn't call him an atheist out rightly. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 7:33pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 7:58pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
mariovito: Look all I know is that I have experienced the spiritual. I have had encounters with evil spirits and I have seen the Power of the Holy Spirit demonstrated when I prayed for a girl the was having issues with her period who hadn't seen her period in a while and as I prayed for her right there and then she started having menstrual cramps and by the time she got to her hostel she had her period. I have been healed once from a mental illness called maladaptive daydreaming by taking the communion. We can argue doctrine or religion all day, but you can't argue experience and experience is what I have and it is the reason I will never become an atheist. I have experienced the spiritual and will continue to experience the spiritual till I leave this world. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 8:09pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: Your entire post is a comedy. 1 Like |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 8:10pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: Great then supply some of this evidence. Let's start with evidence that Jesus is currently alive. 1 Like |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by elated177: 9:05pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: What is the difference? 1 Like |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by 1Sharon(f): 12:07am On Apr 06, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Lmaoooo! I love this |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:24pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
elated177: You obviously don't understand what I wrote so I'll repeat the same thing that I've been saying since... MY POINT OF CALLING HIM AN ATHEIST OF SOME SORT WAS TO MERELY POINT OUT THE FACT THAT HE DEMANDED THE SAME THING THAT ALL ATHEISTS DO WHICH IS EVIDENCE. Please don't bother quoting me again if you still don't understand. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:43pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
LordReed: Okay then let me ask you. What would you consider as sufficient evidence for Jesus being alive? Something tells me that you won't accept the available evidence even if I were to present it to you. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:45pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
LordReed: Well, laugh while you can and enjoy every bit of it. Because no one will be laughing in hell which is where you are headed to unless you repent and believe the Gospel. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 1:48pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: LoLz! |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 1:49pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: Present whatever evidence you have and leave aside what I consider evidence for now. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:53pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
LordReed: That's where we have a problem because I present the only evidence that there is which I consider as sufficient, but you write it off as being insufficient. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Hismasterpiece(m): 1:54pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
LordReed: So the thought of eternal punishment doesn't scare you at all? |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 3:17pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
By the time your semantics get too complex, you stand a chance of not clearly passing your message. Most of your comments below got a bit complex but I get your message. When i said that the car maker being able to make a car stop and God's quality of doing good and evil are miles apart, I felt the reason was too obvious to warrant an explanation. But since you asked for it, here it goes; A car maker being able to make a car move and stop at will can not be said to be a bad thing, none of those qualities are bad, but God being responsible for good and evil, that's self explanatory, one of those qualities is intrinsically bad. Dtruthspeaker: |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Dtruthspeaker: 3:28pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
mariovito: Let's clear your dirt! Is it A) a car maker who makes a car stop or B) rather, he provided for how a moving car, can be stopped? I wonder how you would answer! I sure hope your thinking works properly. Because everyone knows that the correct Answer is B. Therefore, if then the car maker made move (good) and stop (evil) and you say he "can not be said to be a bad thing,(evil), how then is God, The Creator not given the same judgement, when He is even the first to this "move" (Good) and stop (evil)? |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 3:42pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
One car maker obviously makes a car move and stop! How would you say making a car stop moving is a bad thing? Dtruthspeaker: |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by Dtruthspeaker: 4:05pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
mariovito: Now you see the first lesson that you ought to know. If your car brakes hold (stop) your tyres when you need to escape bandits, that definitely will be bad. If your brakes hold when you need to rush your bleeding baby to the hospital, it would be bad. So, now you see, EVIL IS A MATTER OF HARM AND DAMAGE AND DESTRUCTION. And every thing can either be good or bad exactly as people say "your best friend may be your worst enemy and your worst enemy, your best friend". So, now you see, a thing is not evil or good because you think it is. And thank you for saying the truth that the making of good and evil "can not be said to be a bad thing,(evil)" So, it was definitely very wrong and unjust for you to have called God, evil, simply because He made and put in His creation, a thing that is exactly like "stop and go" aka "good and evil". |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 4:31pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: Present it first, everything is up for discussion. The fact that to you your evidence is inviolate does not apply to me. |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by LordReed(m): 4:32pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
Hismasterpiece: No, since such a thing doesn't make sense to me. 1 Like |
Re: A Friendly Advice To All Atheists by mariovito(m): 4:54pm On Apr 06, 2022 |
While your submission seems very alluring, it however has a high likelihood of misleading. It is acceptable that a thing can be good or evil, depends on the perspective, that same luxury cannot be accorded to the qualities "good" or "evil". The quality Good and evil cannot be subjective, rather other things are and can be qualified by these two qualities. So while we can say that a car moving or stopping can be good or bad depending on the supervening circumstances, good or evil cannot be quantified that way, they're the answers at the end of the equation. In conclusion, if I openly admit to causing something good and/or causing something evil to happen, its only normal if I'm praised for the good and held accountable for the evils I caused. Dtruthspeaker: |
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