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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by membranus: 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
TrebleChamp:
If it is on of the five compulsory prayer, then she did nothing wrong. The prayer is not more than 10minutes, and It is better she pray in the shop that continue going to mosque every now and then...

And also bring an alfa into your shop to pray with her, and you will stand there watching her?

Even you cannot tolerate that.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by ume1000: 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
if Na man she be u for permit this nonsense?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Paulianfa(m): 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:


Nothing.. She said I want to pray, meaning please excuse me.


In ur business premises hmmmmmm u dey anyway

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Ikea81: 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
Sales boy claiming Oga
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by GloriousGbola: 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
DeepSight:


Many - across several multinationals companies: many non-Nigerian Muslims inclusive, mainly from other African countries and the Middle-East.

I was surprised, years ago, when I worked for a European Telecom company, to note that one of the meeting rooms in the office was converted into a make-shift mosque, strewn with prayer mats. I thought it was entirely unacceptable and unprofessional, but there was nothing anyone could do. The HR didnt want to "offend" Islam.

That reeks of intolerance to me. Would you be able to work in any of these companies if they also had the same attitude towards blacks? Or do you think there is nothing peculiar about you that they also chose to accommodate?

In the middle East and northern Nigeria, life basically revolves round Islam. But in southern Nigeria, people simply make accommodations. Take 10 minutes and go and say your prayers.

You may think that HR was helpless, but I can tell you that there are several places where others have willingly set aside a prayer room for their Muslim colleagues. It is called tolerance - something all of us in all walks of life should strive for.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Pauladex(m): 3:25pm On Apr 17, 2022
It is very funny. Even if your father is the Alfal that leads prayer in Aso Rock, you can't try it with me.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by compton11(m): 3:26pm On Apr 17, 2022
nkemoma:
Send the Ishmaelite away or soon your Shop becomes an outlet for BH and Bandits


Islamabad.
ismaelite? gringrin

How is a black girl an Ismaelite?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by compton11(m): 3:29pm On Apr 17, 2022
Ameduedwin:
Even at that point of reciting That Koran, and praying That prayer if any customer came in at that moment she will not give that customer any attention at that time and you know what that means? Customer will be running from your business/shop.
so if your dumb ass closed your eyes and pray in Christian prayers,u give people attention?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DeepSight(m): 3:30pm On Apr 17, 2022
DonroxyII:


Anyway, the only bad thing you could do is to stop her from observing Salaat that infringement on her rights to freedom of religion, she can sue You grin

Freedom of religion on the job right? Freedom to pursue your religion even if it clashes with your employer's requirements for the job right? Next thing you will be saying any employer who doesnt create breaks to fit with the five prayer times is breaching your right to your religion right?

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Paulianfa(m): 3:31pm On Apr 17, 2022
Ur business premises is ur life cos from there u got something to feed ur family even if u have another biz, no employee does that in someone shop irrespective of the religion.
I think u should advise her on that before it's getting out of hand, that u are not against her religion and ur shop should not comes in.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by patpaul: 3:32pm On Apr 17, 2022
i'm sure you are from the North that's why you are able to tolerate this nonsense. Imagine going out for your employee to say his stupid prayer in your shop!

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Munzy14(m): 3:33pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:


Nothing.. She said I want to pray, meaning please excuse me.
Separate your business from a fanatic otherwise you are heading to the deep Ocean. undecided

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by OdefaGirl(f): 3:33pm On Apr 17, 2022
9jayes:
I’m a Muslim and I can’t tolerate such, even tho praying in ur shop will bring blessings to the business, she can go to d Mosque during d break. If you’re not comfortable tell her nd if she persists sack her nd employ an Xtian


What religion is Xtian?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Pauladex(m): 3:34pm On Apr 17, 2022
ayenale1:
By next week she would have collected that shop...ise ti dahun on ur head for her to have the guts to tell u to excuse her that she wants to pray...u need oyedepo and baba Adeboye for deliverance
O gbadun whalai

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by ufuosman(m): 3:36pm On Apr 17, 2022
U allowing her to go to mosque is OK bt she bringing whosoever to d shop is not allow
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Kollyb1(m): 3:36pm On Apr 17, 2022
I'm also a Muslim, u should challenge her for that act. It's very wrong

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DeepSight(m): 3:36pm On Apr 17, 2022
GloriousGbola:


That reeks of intolerance to me. Would you be able to work in any of these companies if they also had the same attitude towards blacks? Or do you think there is nothing peculiar about you that they also chose to accommodate?

In the middle East and northern Nigeria, life basically revolves round Islam. But in southern Nigeria, people simply make accommodations. Take 10 minutes and go and say your prayers.

You may think that HR was helpless, but I can tell you that there are several places where others have willingly set aside a prayer room for their Muslim colleagues. It is called tolerance - something all of us in all walks of life should strive for.

Ol' boy converting a meeting room to a make-shift mosque is going too far. Religion is a private affair. Imposing it on the structure and operations of a diverse multinational company is simply bananas. Intolerance you say? Do you want to follow this rabbit down the rabbit hole and see where it could lead? Tell me, what would happen if the Christians in that office banded together and insisted that they also wanted a meeting room as a make-shift church. Tell me, what would happen if after that the Hindu's banded together (because there were lots of Hindus too) and demanded another meeting room as a make-shift temple. And on and on. Can you see the point? Its both ridiculous and absurd. Religion should not be imposed on a corporate environment that way. Its very dangerous. It should be kept private.

Sadly however, you will not see this simple point. I am very used to Muslims describing anything that does not permit them to deploy Islam in every environment - no matter how unreasonably - as being "intolerance." If the tables were turned however, they would never grant others the same "tolerance." You will never have a make-shift church (or temple) being permitted in an office in a Muslim country for example.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by o9o9: 3:38pm On Apr 17, 2022
boolet:


By all means follow your gut feeling. Let that same girl travel out of Naija to a Western culture and see how less religious she'll become. Hypocrites!

The 1st year I arrived Yankee, I worked at a restaurant, as a dishwasher, along with this other muslim guy from Ivory Coast. At the end of the year, we were given bonuses including a bottle of white wine each. Ivorian dude said he didn't want the wine cos he's a muslim. Ok then, pls Umar, kindly take it from the manager and gimme the wine, he said he couldn't touch it... Wine in a bottle!

I was so livid. Then, I reminded him how he washes the pots used in cooking pork religiously. How he also washes glasses customers drink their liquor in. I told him; "Dude, you're a damn hypocrite, because by the standard you claim to uphold, you shouldn't work here."

Long story short, I had long forgotten about the bottle of wine when I felt Umar tap me from behind. "Here's the wine", he said. Really? He had thought deep and hard about how bigotry is plain folly.

This is actually daft. If he received the alcoholic drink and hand it over to you. He is more like an alibi for causing sin. Buying alcohol for someone as a Muslim is termed as a sin. So he gifting you is almost equal to using his money to buy it for you.

You lots need to understand other people's religion and ask questions before jumping into conclusion.

That's clearly different from him washing a pot /plate used in making Pork. There are clear differences in things. Also eating Pork isn't a sin, it's more of an injunction from health perspectives which is clearly different from Alcohol which is an intoxicant and when taken you can't control your actions when under the influence and cansue other greater sins.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by TrebleChamp(m): 3:40pm On Apr 17, 2022
membranus:


And also bring an alfa into your shop to pray with her, and you will stand there watching her?

Even you cannot tolerate that.
The bringing Alfa part is wrong...
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by lafiagi007: 3:42pm On Apr 17, 2022
Listen to me, I'm a practicing Muslim and I've worked in both corporate and public settings.
The simple advise I'll give is to tell her that she's free to go and pray when it's time for prayer(usually between 20-30mins). Tell her you don't want her to be praying in the office as office is meant for business strictly. If she no gree Tor, maybe she no want hear word, so take your decision. Just make sure you're not the one preventing her from going to pray in the mosque.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by ExcelDBM: 3:42pm On Apr 17, 2022
dominique:
It seems you didn't lay out rules to your employee or she saw you were too soft and she now feels she can do anyhow as she likes. You need to put your foot down and tell her not to mix her job with religion. I've seen Muslim bosses who wouldn't let their employees pray unless they're on break and they're noy to pray at the job o, they go to praying grounds or mosques to do that. If your employee can not balance her career with her religious life, then you have no choice but to let her go.

Exactly

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by DeepSight(m): 3:43pm On Apr 17, 2022
membranus:


Anybody can tell any stupid lie to justify any stupid pronouncement in a faceless platform like this.

So mister, your assertion is incredulous.

Lol, you simply havent left the shores of your country before, or otherwise lack exposure, and therefore assume the world to be limited to your set of experiences. Good luck.

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Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by o9o9: 3:49pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.

I actually empathise with you. But i think what is needed is more of an understanding . Muslim prayers are time bound. I.e have specific times they must be said. I guess she not leaving the shop and praying in there is based on the fact that she is required to be available during all hours of work which puts her in a difficult position as regards her religion. It is easier for a Christian in a work environment as you can schedule your prayer times but not the other way round.

I think you should speak to her. If she can find someplace outside the shop premises to say her prayers , fine and okay. You should also be willing to be accomodate that she would be away for about 5mins each at 2pm and 4pm on a daily basis.

If this would not work for you . Then you have to let her know about this. There's no harm in open and honest communication as long as it is not prejudiced.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Nonywendy(m): 3:51pm On Apr 17, 2022
9jayes:
I’m a Muslim and I can’t tolerate such, even tho praying in ur shop will bring blessings to the business, she can go to d Mosque during d break. If you’re not comfortable tell her nd if she persists sack her nd employ an Xtian
u are not a Muslim, stop lying
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by GloriousGbola: 3:51pm On Apr 17, 2022
DeepSight:


Ol' boy converting a meeting room to a make-shift mosque is going too far. Religion is a private affair. Imposing it on the structure and operations of a diverse multinational company is simply bananas. Intolerance you say? Do you want to follow this rabbit down the rabbit hole and see where it could lead? Tell me, what would happen if the Christians in that office banded together and insisted that they also wanted a meeting room as a make-shift church. Tell me, what would happen if after that the Hindu's banded together (because there were lots of Hindus too) and demanded another meeting room as a make-shift temple. And on and on. Can you see the point? Its both ridiculous and absurd. Religion should not be imposed on a corporate environment that way. Its very dangerous. It should be kept private.

Sadly however, you will not see this simple point. I am very used to Muslims describing anything that does not permit them to deploy Islam in every environment - no matter how unreasonably - as being "intolerance." If the tables were turned however, they would never grant others the same "tolerance." You will never have a make-shift church (or temple) being permitted in an office in a Muslim country for example.

yes. but none of the others you mentioned are mandated to pray 5 times a day

would you also say sikhs should not be allowed to wear their turbans? has sikhs wearing their turbans led to a complete and utter breakdown of the dress code?

has making easter a bank holiday in the uk led to agitation of every other religious adherent to have a holiday for their own religion? has it led to a breakdown of the system?

are other religions in the uk also demanding that teh weekend be rejigged around their own religions' weekends?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by donbenie(m): 3:56pm On Apr 17, 2022
sageer1706:
Bro the thing is muslims pray 5daily prayers everyday (5:30am, 1:00pm, 4pm, 6:30pm and 8pm) so telling her not to pray is like telling her to stop working for u
So Muslims don't work in other establishments?
And the Bankers among observe all these?
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Stanleyq: 3:58pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
No man can be this soft to employee unless something is controlling de former, sex.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Nlanalyst: 3:59pm On Apr 17, 2022
dominique:
It seems you didn't lay out rules to your employee or she saw you were too soft and she now feels she can do anyhow as she likes. You need to put your foot down and tell her not to mix her job with religion. I've seen Muslim bosses who wouldn't let their employees pray unless they're on break and they're noy to pray at the job o, they go to praying grounds or mosques to do that. If your employee can not balance her career with her religious life, then you have no choice but to let her go.
Eweee! Coming from a Muslim? shocked
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Warrior247: 4:00pm On Apr 17, 2022
dboY1123:
I have been on/off from my work(shop) for 2weeks now, I have this new worker who is a Muslim and I am a Christian, of course, I am not against her religion or anything, I still grant her the permission to attend mosque every Friday afternoon and I always try to be at shop by 2pm, or get someone to replace her..

Today I came to shop and the first thing I noticed was that she allowed one Alfa that I know very well, into the shop(she knows it is not allowed), my mind told me they were both reciting the Quran before I came in.

Secondly, she told me that she needs to pray (in the shop) that I should excuse her while I had to leave there and go outside..This has never been happening for 3 months she's been here..

Even myself being a Christian, I pray before coming to shop/work.

I wanted to tell her to stop praying in the shop because it is not a praying ground or mosque, should I go ahead?

I am not against her religion whatsoever, even she reads the Quran quietly in the shop and there's no issue about that.
Boss if you don't want her to pray in the shop, just grant her the chance to go to the nearest mosque when ever she wants to pray.

May God bless you �
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by nesgeeek(m): 4:01pm On Apr 17, 2022
warn her to stop praying in ur shop, if she insist u can fire her.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Bolsman(m): 4:05pm On Apr 17, 2022
You caused it yourself by allowing her in the first place. That's why she is passing her boundary. Man up! Business is business. Your shop is not a praying ground.
Re: Am I Going Too Far On This Decision? I Need An Advice! by Warrior247: 4:07pm On Apr 17, 2022
VEXT:
Sack her instantly,very soon they will start that their Quranic reading in your shop....

A Muslim boss will never tolerate this rubbish you are tolerating..
Baba forget this your statement that a Muslim Boss won't tolerate that. Na lie

The truth is some Muslim bosses will tolerate why others won't, just as some christians bosses like the OP tolerates and some christians like you will not...

It is good to tolerate other people's religion...

Muslims and christians like you who don't tolerate others are the reason we are having religious crises in Nigeria

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