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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Newboss(m): 2:44pm On May 30, 2022
Go and hustle. Don't waste your time
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Phaantom22: 2:45pm On May 30, 2022
Start creating jobs or get a job but if you want to school all your life then use google to check all the degrees on earth.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 2:46pm On May 30, 2022
Mopolchi:
Do a direct entry and read accounting, if it is possible.





Please can you state your reasons please please
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Localemperor: 2:46pm On May 30, 2022
MilitantAtheist:
poor jobless bastard, a successful young man like me feel no pain except having problem of shortage of Agro raw materials these periods. come and see my achievement at 25. Visit Me @ O2 farms Asaba or O2 livestock centre Ughelli both in Delta. You need a job, I know your prostitute mother still feeds you from her prostitution, but I don't feel your pain. Sorry mehn
Why are graduates of polytechnics so aggressive? Common Bro, when I said I feel your pain, I meant it in the most honest and noble way and I mean no disrespect grin cheesy

But from all indications you are all out to fight dirty. I won't do that with you because on my BSC certificate was written " you have graduated both in CHARACTER and in learning"....

Go get a BSC bro, Diploma was created to make you a second fiddle..

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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by babadee1(m): 2:50pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:
Presently anything that will put a big smile on
my face in 3 to 4 years time is what I will enjoy doing oh

My primary goal is to be able to build a successful career that will pay well in future.



quote author=babadee1 post=113312022]

What do you enjoy doing? What are your primary goals for your future?

You are 23. You have HND in statistics with distinction. Do you enjoy statistics? If you really enjoy statistics and you're very good at it then your future goals naturally must involve research work.
There are many international NGOs that will pay good money for someone with excellent statistical analysis skills. So if you enjoy statistics and you're good at it then your goal should be to work with an international NGO in a research capacity.
It is only after you have properly thought about it and reached this level of determination that you can ask should I do PGD in what or BSC in what? Which one will get you to the place you want to go faster? Good luck.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Localemperor: 2:57pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:






Please can you state your reasons please please
Hi check your mention, I have sent the number, so I can take it down..
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by meshinoye(m): 2:59pm On May 30, 2022
HND+ Bsc or HND only. They are both meaningless nowadays. Go for professional certification in IT or write ICAN or ACCA( ACCA will even offer u B.sc,M.sc, MBA) if you so desire to hold all those paper degrees.

Most HND holders also holds B.sc , employers are no longer looking out for that.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:01pm On May 30, 2022
meshinoye:
HND+ Bsc or HND only. They are both meaningless nowadays. Go for professional certification in IT or write ICAN or ACCA( ACCA will even offer u B.sc,M.sc, MBA) if you so desire to hold all those paper degrees.

Most HND holders also holds B.sc , employers are no longer looking out for that.






Thanks sir.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:02pm On May 30, 2022
I be girl.
Thanks for the advice.




Drefaithful:


Young man go for your Bsc and thank me later.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Superd14: 3:03pm On May 30, 2022
Na hustling be next thing ooo
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Tenumootito: 3:04pm On May 30, 2022
My dear brother...HND is limiting, I have been there and know what I went through. I went for one interview, I did well but at final stage the director told me why did I stopped at HND that I am shortchanged myself...I wept and went to do degree...

Don't got for PGD...Ask people in academics,its limit them, they use it against them when they want to get to next cadre....
Go and start Bsc ,age still on your side

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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:07pm On May 30, 2022
quote author=Tenumootito post=113313284]My dear brother...HND is limiting, I have been there and know what I went through. I went for one interview, I did well but at final stage the director told me why did I stopped at HND that I am shortchanged myself...I wept and went to do degree...

Don't got for PGD...Ask people in academics,its limit them, they use it against them when they want to get to next cadre....
Go and start Bsc ,age still on your side




Thanks alot for the advice.
I be girl oh�
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by SilaV: 3:07pm On May 30, 2022
Hello @ Pearl1212(f),

Please, take a bit of time to read through this. First, I would like you to consider the advice of these usernames: @Dettogel, @MilitantAtheist, @Yankee101, and @Corporate2020. You are still very young and your course of study is a hot cake if you could concentrate on any thing like Data Analytics, and also learn useful coding languages. One of the ways this can be achieved is if you plan to study abroad. To be specific, try the USA. please, think 'globally'. These are the steps:

(1) Do a credential evaluation. You may use the World Education Services (WES) or any other credential evaluation bodies. However, WES appears to be the most commonly and widely accepted.The result will state that you have an equivalence of a USA degree.
(2) You may write the GRE. It helps you get funding faster and easier. It also helps during the visa interview. Without the GRE, people still get fundings and do get their visa as well.What I am saying is that it helps boost the chances.
(3) English Language Proficiency may be required. However, most schools in the USA do waive this requirement to Nigerians.

With the three conditions above, alongside your stellar GPA(distinction), you can get a full ride tuition free and a monthly stipend package in the USA. Please, check the USA student thread on Nairaland here. I have younger ones I'm mentoring , and do advise them never to try going for a 3-year direct entry or any top-up degree; it's a waste of time. This is the reason: the same three years, you can achieve a lot by traveling to the USA, get a master's degree with Graduate Assistantship position that covers your tuition and living expenses( in form of monthly stipend).In the third year, you are already working on Optional Practical Training(OPT) or on H1-B, thereby contributing meaningfully to your own wellbeing and those of your parents or siblings. You may also have started your doctoral program if you wish to pursue a PhD. You can now see the HUGE difference.

I was once in your shoes some years back but could not get this kind of advice I'm offering now. I went ahead to do a B.Sc but later realized it was not really necessary after being in the 'saner climes'. I have seen lot of peeps with HND who came for direct masters degree and now working with top 500 fortune companies in the world. Some are now Assistant Professors in schools with higher rating than any of the best universities in Nigeria.

At times, when I read comments here on Nairaland about how HND is a 'useless' certificate, not a degree, or not equivalent to a B.Sc, I feel the ignorance being displayed. To put things straight, a holder of HND going for B.Sc in the same field is just like someone with MENG enroling for M.Sc again. The supposed research component of B.Sc is what makes the difference. A university is given the name because it is a research institution. The purpose for establishing Polytechnics and Monotechnics is different from that of a university. This purpose does not make a B.Sc superior to HND. For those who might want to argue, please, note that I have both certificates from the supposed top Polytecnics and universities in Nigeria, so, it's not a case of 'rubishing' what one does not have. The education system in Nigeria needs a complete overhauling. Now, think of this, if some of the best institutions in the world domicile in the USA have no problem in admitting HND holders directly into their Master's program, while universities in Nigeria with very low world rankings are feeling like 'Superheroes', then you should know something is wrong with the thinking process and our systems. If top organizations in the USA like IBM, Intel,HoneyWell(not the one in Nigeria please), top banks, and other giant coys see no problem in employing individuals with HND holder undergraduate background, then we should understand that all is not well with our priorities, thinking process. Unfortunately, society has been fed with that very wrong notion about HND! Okay, read this story of Ibrahim Waziri: https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2016/09/ibrahim-waziri-from-hnd-in-nigeria-to.html

I am sure, if it was in Nigeria, he might still be reminded that he had no B.Sc. So, please, let's have a change of attitude towards this HND degree and think globally!

Enough of this epistle! @ Pearl1212(f), if you are interested in advancing your career without wasting any time in the name of going for another three-year B.Sc or one -year PGD, please, follow the steps above. There are lots of Nairalanders in USA Students thread that would be of help and guide you. You can send me a PM if you need mentorship in this area (this is completely optional and not important, as you will get enough information on Nairaland).

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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by olaarie(m): 3:09pm On May 30, 2022
Nothing to add, you made a whole lot of sense.

Learn data analytics and do conversion programme to earn a degree. In 2-3 years, you can achieve them. Then you will still be around 26 years.

koldej:
It depends on you, let me tell you something some people will ask you why do you need to run a Bsc programme again when you have an HND? they will question your self esteem
I'm also in your shoes.. but this is what I have come to realise so far
1) HND or BSc.. there is no job out there
2) HND or BSc the organization doesn't care, in as much as you know your job
3)YES! HND in statistics qualifies you for direct entry into Accounting
But!
There are some opportunities you will not get if you don't have a degree
There are some chances you will not get to prove yourself if you dont have a degree
There are some interviews you will not get if you don't have a degree

The bottom line is that being successful in your career path is not dependent on whether you have an HND or BSc.

As an HND holder, I will say I've never been out of job since I graduated 2years ago, but the truth is there are better opportunities I have missed out on due to the fact that I don't have a degree, I'm currently trying to run a conversion programme in a course related to my field.

@23 you are still very young, please opt for direct entry if you are from @least a average family who are willing to support you for the next 2-3years again, if not you can try conversion programme, this will give you the opportunity to work and continue schooling at the same time.

But please in whatever decision you take, go and learn IT, I sincerely believe you will do very well in coding or data analysis.

If you don't mind we can be friends
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:09pm On May 30, 2022
Localemperor:
Hi check your mention, I have sent the number, so I can take it down..




Have copied it
You can take it down now.
Thanks alot
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Success900(m): 3:12pm On May 30, 2022
KingAbdulazeez:
Anything you decide to do don't study in a Nigerian public university.
why bro?
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Mopolchi: 3:17pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:






Please can you state your reasons please please
Reason: After reading PGD, you will be howering in the middle of Statistics and Accounting. You will spend about 3 years just for a PGD that is as 'useless' as any thing useless. Rather spend the three years in get a real degree.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Aycol1(m): 3:19pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:
I'm confused.
I'm 23years of age, I have HND in statistics (Distinction), done with NYSC program, I want to further my studies but I'm really confused what to do,

1. I don't know whether to opt in for PGD or BSC(Through Direct Entry).

2. I don't know if I should switch course, from statistics to accounting via Direct Entry and I don't know if HND statistics will be accepted into accounting.
Please I seriously need your opinion and advise on it.


My candid advice to you bro... Go for HND conversion with private university. University like Ajayi Crowther University or Crawford University does the conversion. I guess 18month or so. As a stat graduate you can be doing other side hustle and upscaling your certificate.

Even if you want to jaapa on a peace of mind level, All this certificate make this up.

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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Success900(m): 3:20pm On May 30, 2022
Bro you be mumu
MilitantAtheist:
Make money or go for masters abroad lots of schools accept HND. My school present VC got his master's abroad with an HND, is uneducated people who think you can't get master's abroad with HND, BSC is not equal with HND it's rather lesser to HND in science and engineering field. The dull idiots claiming hnd is rubbish are still illiterates. In my first Agro firm then as OND preparing for HND doing 2nd 1year I.T we were training bsc final year students in the farm, we want insult them die, the idiots did not know what day old chicks are, they don't know brooding or brooder pens, they messed things up until the owner of the farm then stopped admitting bsc final year students, as an HND Agriculturist from my experience bsc people are always the dumbest. All they know is theory which is completely useless in real life, I have seen countless BSc graduates who cannot identify Day-old chicks let alone raise day old chicks but an OND holder doing his IT has already raised day old chicks to point of lay, at hnd level his already into animal feed formulation, animal treatment, breeding and cross breeding programmes and all major Agro skills are already what they're used to. You're a fhuckin graduate and served no idiot can tell you that you're not a graduate, get rid of low self esteem, in engineering field bsc people are also widely rejected for HND engineers. So bsc is more useless than HND except for govt jobs where the discrimination exists even though it has been equalized by law and only lazy people seek for such jobs, Just go to school and study something reasonable, thats very important, if someone like Obasanjo is HND holder and he ruled Nigeria or Buhari with no certificate is ruling, then why worry about bsc? Life must always have discriminations and you will encounter them no matter your certificate, economic or social status. Just thank God for good health above all things and make money I'm an HND holder, Proud successful Agriculturist with high charges for my services, served my nation and very proud. You can consult me for livestock farm services!
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by GboyegaD(m): 3:22pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:
I'm confused.
I'm 23years of age, I have HND in statistics (Distinction), done with NYSC program, I want to further my studies but I'm really confused what to do,

1. I don't know whether to opt in for PGD or BSC(Through Direct Entry).

2. I don't know if I should switch course, from statistics to accounting via Direct Entry and I don't know if HND statistics will be accepted into accounting.
Please I seriously need your opinion and advise on it.

Pursue a Masters in the US.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:24pm On May 30, 2022
Is quite expensive oh




quote author=GboyegaD post=113313905]

Pursue a Masters in the US. [/quote]
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by KingAbdulazeez: 3:24pm On May 30, 2022
Success900:
why bro?

ASUU
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by MilitantAtheist: 3:24pm On May 30, 2022
Localemperor:

Why are graduates of polytechnics so aggressive? Common Bro, when I said I feel your pain, I meant it in the most honest and noble way and I mean no disrespect grin cheesy

But from all indications you are all out to fight dirty. I won't do that with you because on my BSC certificate was written " you have graduated both in CHARACTER and in learning"....

Go get a BSC bro, Diploma was created to make you a second fiddle..
but I'm rich for my age and growing rich every day, just yesterday how much I made from sales of eggs alone? Sales of animal feeds produced locally? Not to talk if my consultancy services? We talking about success here on Earth! As long as you're still poor and unproductive a stack illiterate roadside orange seller is better than you. by law both are equal but I don't give a damn, by practical I'm superior with my HND, hnd made me what I am today and what I'm growing to become in the nearest future cus I started flexing Agric money from the early days as ND2 I.T student, you're a poor jobless old boy still getting fed by your poor harlot mother browsing with ur stupid techno. Tell that to government that already equated it. Again stop depending on your prostitute mother to feed you and ur uselss bsc paper, you should be ashamed at your age you mother still feeds you from her prostitution. Like I said visit me at the aforementioned locations, you need a job even though a job will never make you rich but only render you a slave for life. But it's unfortunate for you that you've not even gotten to that level where you have to slave for people in the name of a job,, you harlot mom still feeds you. Think of your life, have some shame and dignity. Get out of your mother's house come to me in Delta, I will teach you first then employ you. I will not only get bsc, Msc but my professorship in my so much cherished career. You know why I started doing Bsc Animal Science through D.E? Because I need to do my real calling which is Zoology and Animal Taxonomy. That's when I will be truly fulfilled and not because I'm not proud of my HND and next year I'm rounding up my bsc weekend programme to enable me do Masters and PhD in Zoology and Animal Taxonomy, I can't do them with HND Agriculture, I can only achieve that with a degree in pure Animal Science by God's grace I'm getting done next year June and proceeding for my masters abroad. You can enjoy your useless certificate Mr first fiddle feeding from his harlot mom. Stay cool bro
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Blast1: 3:25pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:
I'm confused.
I'm 23years of age, I have HND in statistics (Distinction), done with NYSC program, I want to further my studies but I'm really confused what to do,

1. I don't know whether to opt in for PGD or BSC(Through Direct Entry).

2. I don't know if I should switch course, from statistics to accounting via Direct Entry and I don't know if HND statistics will be accepted into accounting.
Please I seriously need your opinion and advise on it.

My candid advise is for you to take a top up degree conversion form in one of our Nigerian university. You run 5 semesters and get a bachelor's degree. Otherwise, you'll miss a lot of opportunities if you don't have a bachelor's degree.

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Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by GboyegaD(m): 3:27pm On May 30, 2022
Pearl1212:
Is quite expensive oh
quote author=GboyegaD post=113313905]

Pursue a Masters in the US.

What makes it expensive? All you need pay for is the GRE and TOEFL and the time to prepare for both. You surely would get a free ride.

Go read more on the USA student visa thread.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by SilaV: 3:28pm On May 30, 2022
GboyegaD:


Pursue a Masters in the US.

Bros, I hail oo. I understand you don't know me but I'm one of your unknown 'mentees' through your numerous posts in the Travel section. Thanks for the good work you are doing, sir!
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by sseunth(m): 3:29pm On May 30, 2022
Just use your HND pursue PGD or master's degree abroad.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:29pm On May 30, 2022
GboyegaD:


What makes it expensive? All you need pay for is the GRE and TOEFL and the time to prepare for both. You surely would get a free ride.

Go read more on the USA student visa thread.



Thanks alot
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by Pearl1212(f): 3:33pm On May 30, 2022
Blast1:


My candid advise is for you to take a top up degree conversion form in one of our Nigerian university. You run 5 semesters and get a bachelor's degree. Otherwise, you'll miss a lot of opportunities if you don't have a bachelor's degree.


Thanks
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by MilitantAtheist: 3:34pm On May 30, 2022
Success900:
Bro my family and myself we all be mumu and we need help to cure the poverty when our mumu don cause
Lol, okay.
Re: Academic Advice; as an HND graduate what next? PGD or BSC by GboyegaD(m): 3:34pm On May 30, 2022
SilaV:


Bros, I hail oo. I understand you don't know me but I'm one of your unknown 'mentees' through your numerous posts in the Travel section. Thanks for the good work you are doing, sir!

Thanks for the compliment. Hope you are here now?

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