He should have become satan himself. Who cares

phemmyfour:

He was a shepherd not a baby christian, so the "feed my sheep" doesn't apply here.

Bigot!

Wasn't he a sheep to his district/provincial senior pastor or the person he reported to?

I always tell people religion and spirituality are 2 different things, always go for spirituality , there lies the power.

Hizzy:

sometimes you need to think twice

Continue!

You don't have your vision ba? Na person go help you see am?

Lightorder:
He should have become satan himself. Who cares

It is paining you that you be seen someone greater than the god of oyedepo.

JoyousFurnitire:


Continue!

You don't have your vision ba? Na person go help you see am?

Okay say what to say because na your mouth
But like I said I need to spend well

Fynnonsy:
Sorry for all you went through.
Kindly refund the money mistakenly credited to you. I'm sure your new believe does not encourage keeping what's not yours.

Please point me to where he typed he's not willing to refund or yet to refund the money.

Oga,we need people like u to fight the Fulani's. We can't condemn our own religion for the white man.the white man religion hold the bible with their guns.carry go brother. All Fulani's must leave Nigeria for us

Beosten:


Lol. Very funny somebody. Jesus koh, Moses ni

Baba I need confirmed osole. How can I contact u?

I think it's possible that those gifts the devil is now claiming he gave you are those same gifts GOD gave you for HIS work. This is the time to go all operation Job on that old serpent, and say we die here. One thing I really believe is that GOD never fails. Delay is not denial.

oluade11:
Men will always be men. Let your focus be Jesus and not men.
Please, don't give up on Jesus.

At some point Paul told Christians to imitate him as he imitate Christ.

It is this generation or this part of the world that we give excuse for shitty people/leaders.

Paul wouldn't have people to talk to if he was shitty.

If your point should make sense then Christ wouldn't tell his disciples to teach because how do you expect me to be under someone who's shitty?

He may have followed the wrong path but it is obvious the church wasn't there for him.

What are the contributions, tithes and offerings for , if not to take care of the body of christ?

These churchs ammass so much wealth, instead to help their workers and members they use the money to buy private jets, build businesses for their G.Os and do useless CSR for coporate organizations for eye service.

Pastor, follow your heart, I don't blame you one bit

Until we all know and agree that we are not called to LOOK up to a pastor or the church, we'd keep looking up to men and movements for what we need in life that should come from God to us.

Yes, the church failed you (it has been failing others), but God raised helpers for you when your daughter was sick. You should understand that the foundation of a man's Christianity determines the quality and the durability of his Christian life. If miracles, or mundane thing becomes your basis of becoming a Christian, you'd lack substance to withstand tough times.

Challenges would come as they're part of life's experiences, but who you look up to matters.

Do I have it all rosy as a Christian? Never.

It took more more than 3 years to gain admission to the university.

It took me more than 6 years to marry a wife when I had a stable income, but no right partner coming.

I had challenges becoming stable in my prayer life (no thanks to Lagos wahala).

I knew what REAL poverty was while growing up as a teenager and young adult. The kain poverty wey go make you prepare Eba for your house, but go neighbor house to beg for soup take eat am. This happened for years.

Through it all and many weird experiences and challenges in life, Christ has never failed me and my family. He still remain my Lord and Savior.

Today, all the glory to His name alone, I am a chartered professional in my discipline.

I am married to a great wife with kids (forget all those redpillers philosophy about marriage is a scam). Marriage is sweet when you become the right person, marry the right person, apply the right principles, and involve the right Person (God). It just have to be right.

I am still a Christian, not a churchgoer, or a church member (I belong to a church), but I am most conversant of my walk with Christ, not to follow men of God, church denomination, but a disciple of Jesus (that is the real essence of becoming a Christian).

Finally, the church will fail you. Some Christians would betray you. But JESUS CHRIST will never fail you if you cling to Him, come what may.

In this world, we would surely have tribulations, but in Christ, we are MORE THAN A CONQUEROR (not a church slogan), through Him that loved us.

KNOW JESUS...KNOW PEACE.
KNOW JESUS...FOR YOURSELF
KNOW JESUS...BE ROOTED IN HIM (not in church, denomination, or men of God).

#Shalom

Candidlady:
Righteousness just lost a comrade isee him lamenting up there

1st thing in my mind when I saw the headline is yeruba..

The ones strong in church always go back to their feltish act when they fell God has delayed then

JoyousFurnitire:


Bigot!

Wasn't he a sheep to his district/provincial senior pastor or the person he reported to?

Illiterate
He was not sheep to them, he was under their authority. Is like saying Timothy is a sheep to Paul or Paul a sheep to Peter.

Don't be daft

God will be waiting for you. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of God has been forcefully advancing, and it's only the forceful ones that laid hold on it. Matt 11:12.

You need to return back fast to God. I will be waiting to hear your testimony.

quentin06:
I always tell people religion and spirituality are 2 different things, always go for spirituality , there lies the power.

Religion and spirituality are interwined.

Spirituality is religiously following a spiritual principle.

Religion is a belief in God (or a god), a spiritual leader and his principles and obeying/following in his/her steps.

James 1:26 "Pure religion and undefiled before God is this: to visit the fatherless and keep oneself unspotted from the world".

phemmyfour:
Illiterate
He was not sheep to them, he was under their authority. Is like saying Timothy is a sheep to Paul or Paul a sheep to Peter.

Don't be daft

You just shot yourself. You slowpoke.

Did you just compare theses ones to Paul, Peter and Timothy?

Now ask yourself, would Paul, Peter or Timothy let one of them go astray? Without admonshing through letters, visit or foods?

Obviously you don't know your Bible.

shortgun:

Exactly, many "Christians" are deep into religion but empty in spiritual matters. There are God fearing babalawos just as there are satanic evil pastors.
God is the creator of the universe, he works in different ways and with many powers.
when Christ said "in my fathers house there are many mansions" many christians will interpret this verse literally.
An evil spirit came from God to torment Saul, yet many Christians believe that evil spirits only come from hell...
pastors have failed Christians as they have not lead them in the ways of the spirit.

All evil spirits are cast to hellfire. When the devil came to persecute Job, where was he coming from?
Ans: The presence of Almighty God.

Jesus said "no man can serve two masters"
Also "I will say in that day, depart from me you worker of iniquity". Matthew 7:21

THE REQUIREMENT
You must be in Christ and depart from iniquity. If you leave out any of these two, you are in danger of hellfire, according to his teachings and those of his apostles.

shortgun:

Exactly, many "Christians" are deep into religion but empty in spiritual matters. There are God fearing babalawos just as there are satanic evil pastors.
God is the creator of the universe, he works in different ways and with many powers.
when Christ said "in my fathers house there are many mansions" many christians will interpret this verse literally.
An evil spirit came from God to torment Saul, yet many Christians believe that evil spirits only come from hell...
pastors have failed Christians as they have not lead them in the ways of the spirit.

there are no God fearing babalawo pls. You cannot be a babalawo and claim to fear God. The fear of God comes from obeying God, show me one babalawo that obey God

lereinter:


Clearly the church let him down when he needed them most

Is that the hallmark of Christianity

You didn't say anything about that you just started merrigoround, typing insensitivity


Jesus didn't only preach, he feed the poor, told people to give to the poor, and performed miracles.

When Deborah was killed, how many of those big churches intervened to the family plight


Abeggii go sleep

so because he was let down by the church, that is enough yardstick to leave Christ and become a babalawo

JoyousFurnitire:


Did you read at all?


Religion should increase your reasoning and not diminish it

Now sit, relax, read the OP again and think. Don't be like righteousness2 the bigot

All these arguments you are making, who will be on your side in the judgement of God?
God will be the judge, the devil will be laughing at the damned. Everyone will stand alone in judgement.

Don't die in ignorance and poor understanding. Righteousness2 has spoken 100% truth.

The righteous may fall, but he can rise again if he is wise and humble.
Whether you die old or young, what matters is to make Heaven and escape eternal suffering.

That guy was afraid of dying. Jesus said "fear not man who will destroy the body and have nothing he can do against he soul. But fear God who has power to cast the soul to hell".
He made a terrible mistake because of fear, financial pressure and it's not yet late for him to correct it.
Those things said is not to condemn him but recover the lost

Beosten:
In my formative years, we were three fiery brothers practising Christianity in Iwo town -- two of us very poor, but with strange will to survive. After secondary education and with nothing to live for, first among us was a talented beggar. As the second guy, my mother is late, and my father's whereabout was unknown. So, the first guy and I were living in one of the three houses I knew belonged to the father of the 3rd guy, but the father didn't care about the 3rd guy, though. The first guy is a genius in gathering monies through request for "urgent 2k" -- we lived on this for years.

Miraculously, I and the 3rd guy obtained degrees in science and administration respectively; the first guy obtained a degree in theology and became the chaplain of a university Chapel.

But those days as a fiery Christian, I lost 40% of my hearing. The last time I visited the first guy of a chaplain, he needed me to source urgent 5k for him. Just this morning, the 3rd guy called me that he has bone fractures and is receiving treatment at the Ogbomosho general hospital. He needs money at least for feeding, but none is forthcoming. Let me add that the first guy is in Baptist, I was in Winners Chapel while the 3rd guy is a Mountain of Fire adherent.

Then I joined the ministry in Winners Chapel. Oratory is still my best physical gift -- those in Winners Chapel Adeeke, Iwo in 2005 will remember me by the name Yinka. I had studied the scriptures from "paali to paali"; prayer sessions I handled those days looked like wartime events. While in the university, I was sent to pastor a new church in another town and did so successfully. But when I started full-time ministry, what you would usually call hosts of hell came banging at my door. They would tell me what would happen the following day and they would come to pass. They would tell me Mr A was at my door while I was still sleeping by 6:30am and that would be so.

Later, those spirits told me why I am on earth, and if I neglect my path, I would regret being born. They said I'm a Babalawo by design. I quickly went on overdrive binding "thoughts that may setup their selves against God's knowledge and every disobedience..." Then I would hear strange laughter of a group of persons suggesting the spirits were many. Then I traveled to see a primary school mate who is making waves as a general overseer of a church. All his prayers or deliverance made no difference.

Then voices started threatening me and commanded me to go to a village whose name I never heard hitherto saying that someone is waiting for me there. I googled the name of the town and I found it. I went there because previous messages didn't fail. I met the person and the priestess gave a stern warning that refusing to work for the gods would be a deadly decision. I accepted the calling right away.

But divination is not that easy to learn. I know someone who spent eight years on it. I became a pro within five months by some rare twists of events and within nine months, I became a full-blown Babalawo.

I'm tempted to say that Christians practice something different from what the Bible taught me. In 2020, my daughter was on life support at Bowen University Teaching Hospital, Ogbomosho. The bills were clearly beyond what my 50k salary could handle. I requested for help from the church hierarchy by calling the district pastor, and he said I should follow a correct route in channelling my request. I replied that I first of all called the area pastor who directed me and gave me his number to call. The district pastor started sounding offensive. That was why I came to nairaland and made a thread for help.

https://www.nairaland.com/5637056/meconium-aspiration-syndrome-baby

A nairalander sent a huge amount of money to me in the following thread to clear hospital bills.

https://www.nairaland.com/5641659/leave-patient-hospital-because-lack#86385594

I tendered a resignation letter in Winners Chapel in 2021 with two weeks notice. Before the notice elapsed and till today, I never heard anything from them about my resignation. But when the district church mistakenly paid a sum of money into my bank account after I had left (that money ought to be sent to the current pastor of the church) I told the accountant and he asked me to refund it immediately. While working there, I never had any history of misconduct. They treated me as though I never existed; that action reduced me to a new low, lower than the basest of animals...

The following advice is indispensable: life is not all about money; you're here on a certain assignment.



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5277426729005304&id=100002140864850

You left light and went back to darkness

MrPRevailer:


All these arguments you are making, who will be on your side in the judgement of God?
God will be the judge, the devil will be laughing at the damned. Everyone will stand alone in judgement.

Don't die in ignorance and poor understanding. Righteousness2 has spoken 100% truth.

The righteous may fall, but he can rise again if he is wise and humble.
Whether you die old or young, what matters is to make Heaven and escape eternal suffering.

That guy was afraid of dying. Jesus said "fear not man who will destroy the body and have nothing he can do against he soul. But fear God who has power to cast to hell".
He made a terrible mistake because of fear, financial pressure and it's not yet late for him to correct it.
These things said is not to condemn but recover the lost

There are better ways to put it.

So also will the unfaithful servant will be judged. They failed to feed him (food and word).

Not even all that call the Lord shall be saved. Not even those that performed wonders in his name.

Not even those that judged him instead to remove the log in their eye (to be more compassionate and preach justice).

Blake755:
Abeg how do someone discover his purpose in life please I answer I have been trying to discover it . It is very hard

By first praying to God to show his purpose for your life and secondly looking at what you know how to do best. Find that thing you do with ease. To some it shows but to others it is hidden. Look inward at that thing you know how to do best

DontBullshitMe:
I don't blame him.

After working in a company for some years, it is only appropriate that you start yours.

This is deep!

JoyousFurnitire:


You just shot yourself. You slowpoke.

Did you just compare theses ones to Paul, Peter and Timothy?

Now ask yourself, would Paul, Peter or Timothy let one of them go astray? Without admonshing through letters, visit or foods?

Obviously you don't know your Bible.

Dindinrin
Demas left Paul

Ananias and Sapphire were under Peter when they misbehaved and died instantly

delkuf:
there are no God fearing babalawo pls. You cannot be a babalawo and claim to fear God. The fear of God comes from obeying God, show me one babalawo that obey God

A God fearing person doesn't have to be a Christian.

Matthew 7vs21-23
“Not every one that saith unto Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but he that doeth the will of My Father who is in Heaven.

22 Many will say to Me in that Day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name, and in Thy name have cast out devils, and in Thy name done many wonderful works?’

23 And then will I profess unto them, ‘I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.’

There are God fearing people in all every religion and beliefs
Good people are not only found in Churches.

The "greatest commandment is to love your neighbour as you love yourself"

phemmyfour:
Dindinrin
Demas left Paul

Ananias and Sapphire were under Peter when they misbehaved and died instantly

Fact that you're bringing the likes of Paul and Peter here is unreal.

Would Paul or Peter do to the OP as that senior colleague did?

For what reason did Demas departed Paul and what reason were the couple slained by the Spirit?

I don't need your answer. It's your type that quote out of context.

I leave you with your ignorance.

Do have a great day.

delkuf:
so because he was let down by the church, that is enough yardstick to leave Christ and become a babalawo

For him that's enough

May you not fall into temptation above your capacity

Eniti ija o'deba n'oun pe rare ni okunrin

Pray he recovers

You became a pastor to earn a living and that was the first mistake. The evil spirits knew you were not rooted in Jesus Christ and they came for you with their lies.
Being a pastor is a service to God and not a job. You serve God, then get your hands to do something and God in turn will bless the work of your hands.

I pray that God through his holy spirit will direct your paths back to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation and eternal life

Okay we have heard you