pleasureosondu:
I'd wish we had this talk in person but let me make certain points clear.

1. Did you notice that throughout OBJ's tenure, igbos were the Senate leaders? That was OBJ's deal. I'll check records from the East/West to determine what Olu offered.

2. From your statement about Olu, he has a good record but he needs to "market" that record in order to attract, not just igbos but other ethnicities. For example, Obi is indirectly marketing himself as the only Christian candidate, there by sourcing for christian votes. As a politician, it's good to have a good record but it's nicer when you use it at your advantage. I think that's what Obasanjo did.

Another instance is this Tinubu campaign. Now, let me agree that he did well in Lagos, however, why would he even think about Muslim Muslim ticket in a multi religious society like ours? He's a good politician but he has failed to win a large population making up the country. If he fails to win, he will blame christians or Igbos again but do you see that he made a political blunder? I can narrow this down to Mr Olu when I receive the report.

3. My friend, to be honest with you, Yoruba's ain't our enemy, yes a few individuals but never the Yoruba nation. We will talk against any leader (Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa origin) who disappoints the people. It's not a favor my friend, rather that's how a republican country should operate.

Let me try to respond based on the numbering:
1. That was supposed to be the normal thing for the two major political parties, President to come from South West (so as to placate the Yorubas because of June 12), VP automatically cannot come from the South again, so North. And Automatically Number 3 man should be from the East.

2. About Olu Falae, he had fine records as a technocrat and brilliant as well. For him to beat someone like Bola Ige to the AD presidential ticket will tell you how he was highly regarded. Though not a professional politician like the others. Obasanjo did not actually do any marketing, he was rather imposed on us by the Military who did not want any of the full time politicians to become president so as to protect themselves because they knew they are likely going to go on revenge mission for how they have brutalized the politicians, sent many of them to prison and others on exile. Nobody in Igboland knew anything good about Obasanjo other than he was president of Nigeria briefly before handing over to Sheu Shagari. He was just the choice of the power that be and the Igbos who were like 80% in PDP had no option but to toe the line.

As per Tinubu right now I don't envy him, he is caught up between the devil and the deep blue sea. The only shot he has right now on winning this election is go get a very strong Northerner that can pull votes for him from Atiku and Kwankwaso and there is no Christian northerner presently that can pull such weight.
As I said earlier he has South West locked down whether he brings a Christian or a Muslim. The "awa lokan" inside most Yorubas will make them vote for him (forget all the online noise you are hearing presently).
If he brings the Pope himself to come and be his VP he can NEVER win South East, so there is no point trying to please them by bringing a christian. If he wins the election he can now try to bring them on board (right now his only goal is to win the election at all cost).
For the muslim dominated north, there is nothing that will sell more for him than "Vote Alhaji Tinubu and Alhaji so so and so"
Anything outside muslim/muslim for him means he already lost the race even before starting.


3. Believe me, I never see Yorubas and Igbos as enemies, you need to see them in day to day life. But the truth is that when it comes to Political matters they don't see eye to eye as a result of different factors, Could be the Yoruba way of life of rallying round "one of their own" as against Igbo's "every man for himself, all for God". Another major reason could be the "political enmity" that have been planted by the Ziks and Awos of then and being passed down to different generations. This is a fact except we are just trying to deceive ourselves.

BuhariNaWah:



This is not about tribalism,
But suffer never taya you?!
Receive sense na

Are your family and your generation not tired of taking night buses to Lagos to sell gala under the bridges built by Tinubu? Tell me anyone among those celebrities supporting Peter Peter Obi that made his money and fame in Anambra? They all made it in Tinubu's Lagos.

BaddestQueen:
usual.

Eboes voted for Atiku (arguably the most corrupt politician in Nigeria's history). Igbos have been serving PDP (the most corrupt political party in Africa's history) since 1999. Diezanni alone stole billions of dollars from Nigeria's treasury. This is the Eboes that Nigeria knows. Don't come here and pretend your people have not been at the center of Nigeria's corruption and decay.

GeneralPula:
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Trash from a troll..

Your intention is dead on arrival because Nigerians knows in reality Yoruba are not tribal and are very accommodative..

Many diff tribes are all over the west and we love them all..

You are right. We are accomodative but we are not foolish. If a guest in your house start holding secret meetings with your sworn enemy then it is time for the guest to be thrown out and discarded.

pleasureosondu:
I ask, can you provide valid evidence/ reasons why Olu was the choice of the Yorubas? That way we can determine if he had better credibility than Obasanjo. And the fact that you agree that Igbos voted Obasanjo, a Yoruba man, irrespective of the power tussle in igbo land is a pass mark for Igbos.

Why did Igbos vote against MKO for Bashir Tofa?

pleasureosondu:

3. My friend, to be honest with you, Yoruba's ain't our enemy, yes a few individuals but never the Yoruba nation. We will talk against any leader (Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa origin) who disappoints the people. It's not a favor my friend, rather that's how a republican country should operate.

Yorubas are not your enemies YET all the anti-Yoruba attacks on social media are spearheaded by your people. Try again, bro.

soojar:


Let me try to respond based on the numbering:
1. That was supposed to be the normal thing for the two major political parties, President to come from South West (so as to placate the Yorubas because of June 12), VP automatically cannot come from the South again, so North. And Automatically Number 3 man should be from the East.

2. About Olu Falae, he had fine records as a technocrat and brilliant as well. For him to beat someone like Bola Ige to the AD presidential ticket will tell you how he was highly regarded. Though not a professional politician like the others. Obasanjo did not actually do any marketing, he was rather imposed on us by the Military who did not want any of the full time politicians to become president so as to protect themselves because they knew they are likely going to go on revenge mission for how they have brutalized the politicians, sent many of them to prison and others on exile. Nobody in Igboland knew anything good about Obasanjo other than he was president of Nigeria briefly before handing over to Sheu Shagari. He was just the choice of the power that be and the Igbos who were like 80% in PDP had no option but to toe the line.

As per Tinubu right now I don't envy him, he is caught up between the devil and the deep blue sea. The only shot he has right now on winning this election is go get a very strong Northerner that can pull votes for him from Atiku and Kwankwaso and there is no Christian northerner presently that can pull such weight.
As I said earlier he has South West locked down whether he brings a Christian or a Muslim. The "awa lokan" inside most Yorubas will make them vote for him (forget all the online noise you are hearing presently).
If he brings the Pope himself to come and be his VP he can NEVER win South East, so there is no point trying to please them by bringing a christian. If he wins the election he can now try to bring them on board (right now his only goal is to win the election at all cost).
For the muslim dominated north, there is nothing that will sell more for him than "Vote Alhaji Tinubu and Alhaji so so and so"
Anything outside muslim/muslim for him means he already lost the race even before starting.


3. Believe me, I never see Yorubas and Igbos as enemies, you need to see them in day to day life. But the truth is that when it comes to Political matters they don't see eye to eye as a result of different factors, Could be the Yoruba way of life of rallying round "one of their own" as against Igbo's "every man for himself, all for God". Another major reason could be the "political enmity" that have been planted by the Ziks and Awos of then and being passed down to different generations. This is a fact except we are just trying to deceive ourselves.

I completely agreed at the bolded and to some things you've mentioned. Generally, we ain't different, at least on religious grounds. Honestly, it's on Nairaland that i started to note this tribal behaviors. Here in the North, we all work collectively, especially on religious grounds. Nothing like Igbo or Yoruba. It's either you are a christian or not. Of course,you know the reasons. It's well my brother.

Emilokoiyawon:


Yorubas are not your enemies YET all the anti-Yoruba attacks on social media are spearheaded by your people. Try again, bro.

I've had a fruitful chat with soojar. Go through it. Maybe you'll get some answers. Peace,my friend

pleasureosondu:
I've had a fruitful chat with soojar. Go through it. Maybe you'll get some answers. Peace,my friend

Good for you. Soojar is a liberal Yoruba. Me, I am ibile to the core. If you love me, I love you. If you hate me, I hate you times 10. And tell your people to go back to hating Yorubas in secret because now even the most liberal Yorubas are waking up to the reality of your unwarranted vicious hatred. Social media is exposing your tribe for who they really are.

now I understand a finished tinubu is better than obi igbo people are tribalist

Emilokoiyawon:


Good for you. Soojar is a liberal Yoruba. Me, I am ibile to the core. If you love me, I love you. If you hate me, I hate you times 10. And tell your people to go back to hating Yorubas in secret because now even the most liberal Yorubas are waking up to the reality of your unwarranted vicious hatred. Social media is exposing your tribe for who they really are.

Your true enemies are the attackers of that Catholic church in Owo. No matter your issue with the igbos, they will never do such. Channel that anger to the ethnicity that did such. If to say you dey with us here for North, igbos for no be your issue at all

Emilokoiyawon:


Eboes voted for Atiku (arguably the most corrupt politician in Nigeria's history). Igbos have been serving PDP (the most corrupt political party in Africa's history) since 1999. Diezanni alone stole hundreds of billions of dollars from Nigeria's treasury. This is the Eboes that Nigeria knows. Don't come here and pretend your people have not been at the center of Nigeria's corruption and decay.

Tinubu is a bastard drug dealing vagabond

God bless Yoruba Christians and reasonable Yoruba Muslims
God bless real Omoluabis
thunder scatter Tinubu urchins

BaddestQueen:
Tinubu is a bastard drug dealing vagabond

God bless Yoruba Christians and reasonable Yoruba Muslims
God bless real Omoluabis
thunder scatter Tinubu urchins

My Queen, let's discard this banters. Yorubas aint our problem as igbos. Come up North and you'd see real problem. Let this issue rest.

pleasureosondu:
Your true enemies are the attackers of that Catholic church in Owo. No matter your issue with the igbos, they will never do such. Channel that anger to the ethnicity that did such. If to say you dey with us here for North, igbos for no be your issue at all

Those enemies are easy to spot and deal with. And we are dealing with them, thank you very much. Your people use far more insidious means to attack us. Including sowing the seeds of Yoruba Muslims vs Yoruba Christians, which of course will never work if you have any basic knowledge of Yoruba culture (By the way, I am neither a muslim or christian).The attacks on Tinubu are actually an extension of this cowardly scheme. But we know exactly why they are doing this. Even though it is bound to fail, the intent makes them far more dangerous than any fulani herdsmen hiding in the bush. It shows that your people hate the very thing that makes us who we are. And more and more Yorubas (traditional, chrisitians and muslims alike) are waking up to it. I can assure you one thing, the smartest thing you people could have done was to keep their anti-Yoruba hatred out of social media. It's too late now.

BaddestQueen:
Peteru Obi is a bastard Pandora criminal.
God bless ALL Yorubas.
God bless ALL Tinubu's supporters
thunder scatter Peter Obi's urchins

Amen.

Emilokoiyawon:


Those enemies are easy to spot and deal with. And we are dealing with them, thank you very much. Your people use far more insidious means to attack us. Including sowing the seeds of Yoruba Muslims vs Yoruba Christians, which of course will never work if you have any basic knowledge of Yoruba culture (By the way, I am neither a muslim or christian).The attacks on Tinubu are actually an extension of this cowardly scheme. But we know exactly why they are doing this. Even though it is bound to fail, the intent makes them far more dangerous than any fulani herdsmen hiding in the bush. It shows that your people hate the very thing that makes us who we are. And more and more Yorubas (traditional, chrisitians and muslims alike) are waking up to it. I can assure you one thing, your people will regret the day they decided to expose their hatred for us using social media. Mark this down.

Like I've said earlier, let Yorubas channel their resources to those killed in that church. The igbos retaliated (I do not support it) when Deborah Samuel was killed. We know our true enemies. Come North, all this one when you dey yarn go clear from your eye. You think say herdsmen matter na joke? They are ready to wipe out all ethnic groups in Nigeria. Yorubas can never commit such abomination in a church. We know that. Till date, no suspect has been caught and you think igbos are your problem?

pleasureosondu:
Like I've said earlier, let Yorubas channel their resources to those killed in that church. The igbos retaliated (I do not support it) when Deborah Samuel was killed. We know our true enemies. Come North, all this one when you dey yarn go clear from your eye. You think say herdsmen matter na joke? They are ready to wipe out all ethnic groups in Nigeria. Yorubas can never commit such abomination in a church. We know that. Till date, no suspect has been caught and you think igbos are your problem?

Both your people and the janja___weed criminals from Futa-jalon are two sides of the same coin. You are both extremists with hate and wickedness in your hearts. And we will deal with both of you in due time. Just wait and see. Mazi Kanu is in Kuje after he directed criminals to burn down Lagos properties. By the way where is dj witch? The lady that instigated the burning down of Lagos? If you know her whereabouts let us know.

pleasureosondu:
This is a descent response,so I'll engage. First, at the bolded is the first step to identifying and rectifying any problem. The simple translation, is, there's no reaction without an initial action. Let me ask you a question, why do you think the Igbos dislike Tinubu(not Yorubas in general)? Going by your proverb, isn't it possible that he(Tinubu) must have done something(smoke) to warrant this dislike(fire)? Remember that Obasanjo (a Yoruba man)got Igbo votes during his tenure. Or do you hear igbos talk bad about Ambode? Meaning that this issue isn't about ethnicity but individual.

Second, Is it only the Igbos that are currently against Tinubu? He shot himself by using the Muslim Muslim ticket, thereby increasing the number of attacks you see online from Christians. It's suprising you think that it's just the igbos that are involved in this online attacks abi na only igbos be christians for this country? If Christian talk bad about Tinubu because of this Muslim Muslim ticket, you'll feel we insulted him but how can a man as old and experienced as he is not think about that action beforehand, considering that the society he wants to lead is multi-religious?

Third, you need to understand that the igbo way of life is highly republican, meaning that there's no actual center of rulership. So, every Igbo man you see has a mind of his own. That's why we can challenge anyone who has questionable characters. I believe you saw what we did to Ekweremadu in Germany, the attacks on the Okoroacha or ikpeazu of Abia. If igbos are hypocritical, you won't hear a word from the people but we don't tolerate bad leadership. Igbos will support an Osibanjo or Fashola candidacy because we can easily sell their credibility to our people. That's why you see the support Obi is getting. That's why they can easily "market" him to non- Igbo audience. Ask yourself, can Tinubu ask the Yoruba nation to verify his tenure in it's[b]entirety[/b]( be it a positive or negative outcome). So, I ask again, who's been hypocritical here? People who stand against bad leadership despite being of one tribe or people who support bad leadership simply because they are same tribe?

Peace

Abobi,you really have strength to be engaging that soulless dimwit that've sworn to be a regrettable disgrace to her generations to come..
Honestly,you've to relax and forget these Tinubu's urchins because they can never change,they got no mind of their own and they can never reason like normal human beings via that they're in total bondage,blinded by tribal and religious sentiments..(oppressed defending and fighting for their oppressor via Stockholm syndrome).. I rest my case...Gracias!!!!

Emilokoiyawon:


Both your people and the janja___weed criminals from Futa-jalon are two sides of the same coin. You are both extremists with hate and wickedness in your hearts. And we will deal with both of you in due time. Just wait and see. Mazi Kanu is in Kuje after he directed criminals to burn down Lagos properties. By the way where is dj witch? The lady that instigated the burning down of Lagos? If you know her whereabouts let us know.

I've been very respectful to you. I've not called you names nor the Yorubas. If you see an extremist, you no go get mouth talk. You read my conversation with soojer. No insults or bullsh.it. It was a chat of matured people talking. If you continue to attack without making your points clear, I won't respond to it. I've never said anything disrespectful about the Yorubas. I'm here to learn. Peace

pleasureosondu:
I've been very respectful to you. I've not called you names nor the Yorubas. If you see an extremist, you no go get mouth talk. You read my conversation with soojer. No insults or bullsh.it. It was a chat of matured people talking. If you continue to attack without making your points clear, I won't respond to it. I've never said anything disrespectful about the Yorubas. I'm here to learn. Peace

You don't get it. I am not here to cater to your sensibilities. That time has passed. The proverbial horse has departed the stable. I am sure you yourself are not an extremist. Just like not all futa-jalon residents are extremists. But, all extremists and terrorists will be dealt with. Don't come to me trying to defend extremist terrorists and I will never mistake you for them. Ciao. Don't forget to let us know where some of these terrorists are hiding if you have information.

It's now very obvious that they've made it a tribal and religious project especially by selecting only the Yoruba actors and actresses buh you wouldn't hear anything from all these Tinubu urchins(though I never expected any of them to reason like a normal human being anyways),let another candidate especially Peter Obi do the same,then you will see their total madness in a higher momentum.
Buh what I understand here is that only the few conscienceless Yoruba actors and actresses endorsed Tinubu buh the A-list celebrities from every tribes and religion endorsed Peter Obi,can we spot the different now?
People like Davido,Wizkid or even Olamide can never stoop too low to endorse their great grand father to be their president simple because he's of the same tribe with them,it's only the tribalist hungry dunce,unthinkable fellas, selfish and greedy actors and actress that can do such a thing buh hope they wouldn't regret it later and as for the one that locked her comment section after endorsing Tinubu,why locking the comment section if what you did was right?
Lets keep on deceiving ourselves because last last,every candidate will go and become the president in their own region if we fail to elect credible and competent president due to tribe or religious affiliations... I rest my case...Gracias!!!!

Shame no allow them post on their individual Instagram pages

Emilokoiyawon:


You are wrong. After GEJ's failures you Igbos still supported him in 2015, yes or no? After Atiku's failure as VP for 8 years you still supported him in 2019, Yes or no? Tinubu has never occupied aso rock. So your argument holds no water. In fact you argument would be better if they were supporting Yemi Osinbanjo.

You guys cant see that you are being played.The northerners are attacking the presidency on 3 fronts- support sick BAT with a Muslim fulani vice in case he wins⁰ then put pressure on him to relapse and eventually get his vice to replace him; codedly support atiku and decamp once he wins, or join kwankwaso northern revolution. either which ways yoruba politicians are bleeped cos their only option is treacherous northerners. However northerners did not expect the Peter obi effect

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Nollywood Icons; Jide Kosoko, Bayo Salami, Yinka Quadri, Femi Adabayo, Faithia Balogun, Madam Saje, Iya Awero & Others Release Campaign Video For Bola Ahmed Tinubu's Presidency.

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https://twitter.com/YNaija/status/1542073243582038016?t=8zPro7LMIHV6UdiOQx8cgw&s=19
[/quotour politicians succeeded in making Nigeria believe that nobody will can win the presidency outside these two political parties apc and pdp.so making people believe they re wasting their vote if they vote another party,which is wrong,if actually we peoples vote don’t count so why are they buying the vote,if people should come out and vote a credible candidate with their conscience and not taking money or accept what the pdp and apc have sold to us then we will conquer these evil few.our politicians have sold tribalism and religious bigotry to us.that even after 8 years of hardship and suffering and Nigeria on the brink of collapse,economically,security wise,infact I don’t think any good news have come out from Nigeria in the past 8 Years.some people still have a mind to campaign for someone who is even worst than the current president.health wise Tinubu is very sick,he has kidnapped the Lagos treasury since,he has certificate issues yet people still in their insane mind favour him over someone who is younger,more competent and transparent with proven records all because of religious and tribal sentiments,I’m sure what happened in ondo in the east and north only affected common citizens like us who refuse to use our brain,the people u have voted to power based on ur sentiments are milking us dry for their kids to live lavish life abroad and endanger us.all of you both old and young who swore Nigeria won’t be better because of ur tribal and religious sentiments shall all die for Nigeria to live

Expecting olamide too...

Awon weyrey gbogbo

Emilokoiyawon:


That is why we are voting Tinubu who as governor put Lagos on a solid financial footing. You can't compare Tinubu's Lagos to Peter Obi's Anambra in terms of financial viability.

Check this screenshot to see the issue we are in. You say solid financial footing and I laugh at you Lagos is knee deep in debts. Anambra performed so well in 2021 fiscal performance indices and low debt profile who do you think is a better manager of funds?

Emilokoiyawon:


Can you beat your chest and say that the Igbos that supported Atiku in 2019 did not collect money?

Yes I can beat my chest they didn't collect any money Peter Obi was his running mate and it was the game changer because we knew Obi's track record. Oya answer my question can you beat your chest for these Yoruba actors and actresses?

saintrow1:


He doesnt have the power as a governor to do so. Nothing childish, the person made a valid point.

Big lie he could get the police to swoop on them and he didn't. Oga stop being stupid abeg

Emilokoiyawon:


We know you will not vote for anyone Yoruba's support. We understand your hatred. You did same for Falae and MKO; and MKO still won in a landslide.

And, when was the last time Atiku visited SE? This race is Tinubu v Atiku. The pandora criminal is just an afterthought.

Hatred?

Why do you like supporting corrupt politicians.

You hate Nigerians that is why you are supporting a crooked kleptomaniac.

We will show you guys that Nigeria does not belong to "emi lokan".
Atiku has already lost his support base to Peter obi.

Even if I had to choose, I would pick atiku over Tinubu.

Emilokoiyawon:


Suffer no dey tire you? Pandora criminal whose citizens in Anambra are still running to Tinubu's Lagos in droves looking for better life?

Lol..This guy is funny. Tinubu is unsellable and can never rule Nigeria. Get it known and know peace

Well, if you tag my comment tribalistic, I won't be surprised because it the common trend here.

What I know is, for Obi to emerge, he needs SW on his side, but if care is no taken, power will return to the north via rigs and vote buying.

They are all mad. They should all be careful so that thier career don't go with useless campaign for one nuisance that's a thief and his health is unstable. Do you know the number of thier association that have died as a result of poor health system in the country. Wicked set of people [color=#990000][/color]