While discussing with some buddies yesterday, we touched on the topic “moving back to Nigeria”. I argued that Nigeria is not safe. Sure, there are places that are pretty “safe”. However, my notion of safety is when other people elsewhere can go about their normal activities without fear. For instance, I don’t consider a place safe if one part of the area keeps suffering repeated attacks from Fulani herdsmen (like Southern Kaduna and Plateau). I don’t have to be the affected party, but others who go about their normal activities should feel safe doing them. The other guy countered that, with money, one could enjoy Nigeria. “Live in Maitama, run Lister generator and live quietly.” Also, you get to be in a place where almost everyone looks like you.

Upon hearing “…with money, one can enjoy Nigeria”, I asked him to list five things/ways one can enjoy Nigeria as long as the person has money. Surprisingly, he could not mention one thing/way. I thought it wise to throw it to the house, especially for those who are anti-Japa or those who have stayed abroad for a long time and currently reside in Nigeria.

As someone with money, what exactly does the person enjoy in Nigeria? What are the differences compared to his/her counterpart in say, Namibia or Canada/UK that also has money? How do you enjoy Nigeria provided the money is available?

P.S. I understand that the notion of “enjoyment” is largely subjective. Some enjoy going to parties, while others enjoy travelling around or even reading a book while in a park. But I believe there are some universal notions of enjoyment.

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And no taxes
Cheaper life

Good warm weather at no cost ! Low cost of living relative to income , ease of setting new business , more return on investment .prestige, culture , bigger houses (all paid ) zero racism and no glass ceilings. Natural organic food . For electricity we now have over 22 hours daily band A solar cover up for the rest .no student debt (70000 USD) per child, no 40 tax on incomes no inheritance levy no Mass shooting .family values ( state promoting gays and gay bishop) cheap subsided fuel .low debt burden car insurance is just 20k .no property sharing on divorce. Polygamy .community engagement (no invidualism) no old people home to dump me when am old ! no child care bills ( 400 USD per months ) .

ahiboilandgas:
Good warm weather at no cost ! Low cost of living relative to income , ease of setting new business , more return on investment .prestige, culture , bigger houses (all paid ) zero racism and no glass ceilings. Natural organic food . For electricity we now have over 22 hours daily band A solar cover up for the rest .no student debt (70000 USD) per child, no 40 tax on incomes no inheritance levy no Mass shooting .family values ( state promoting gays and gay bishop)

Fair points. However, not everyone who japa'd went to the US. So, the student debt of a thing or mass shootings sounds like Greek to a Nigerian settled in the Netherlands. Also, other West African countries or even few in Southern Africa offer almost similar advantages and are very safe when compared to Nigeria. My major issue with Nigeria is insecurity. I don't like a place where the elites aren't doing anything about the insecurity situation even if I am tucked inside Banana Island.

There is a difference between the developed countries and 3rd world countries.

3rd world countries are good to relax and enjoy more because they are cheaper to live with small money compared to the developed world.
Most of my captains who are British, Americans, Russians always go to cheaper countries like Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Nigeria etc for vacations because they get more value with little dollars they take there.

With 500k per month salary for a family of 4 (husband, wife and 2 kids) in Nigeria for example, you can live in a decent 3 bedroom flat and a better life than someone earning equivalent in abroad.
Building a 3 bedroom bungalow cost less than someone abroad with lesser pressure to work.
Your work rate will be lower to sustain such lifestyle than even someone renting a studio abroad.

There is a reason my abroadians are always calculating their currency to nigeria to come and flex when they come home.
Such money is chicken change over there.
Many guys abroad doing dirty jobs and combining 2 jobs are buying lands in high brow areas in nigeria like Lekki but over there, they are more or less a pauper.

Whatever life you think you flex over there or your standard of living, it cost far far less to do that over here.
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Gerrard59:


Fair points. However, not everyone who japa'd went to the US. So, the student debt of a thing or mass shootings sounds like Greek to a Nigerian settled in the Netherlands. Also, other West African countries or even few in Southern Africa offer almost similar advantages and are very safe when compared to Nigeria. My major issue with Nigeria is insecurity. I don't like a place where the elites aren't doing anything about the insecurity situation even if I am tucked inside Banana Island.

honestly they are doing but are overwhelmed! Yesterday 200 boko haram fighter where killed in Bama, 38 bandit in kaduna and 140 in zamafara airstrike . The main problem is not looking at the root causes of this problem . Over 2000 boko haram fighter have been eliminated but within months they regroup and recruit. Cos in the North over 10m kids are on the streets with no education or care. Futher more with over 100m poor citizen's cramp in Nigeria insecurity and desperation will kick In.

ahiboilandgas:
honestly they are doing but are overwhelmed! Yesterday 200 boko haram fighter where killed in Bama, 38 bandit in kaduna and 140 in zamafara airstrike . The main problem is not looking at the root causes of this problem . Over 2000 boko haram fighter have been eliminated but within months they regroup and recruit. Cos in the North over 10m kids are on the streets with no education or care.

Well, to you. To me? The Nigerian army is too fractured along ethnic and religious lines to solve the country's security challenges. They are not doing anything if not, the president would have found a lasting situation to the crises in Southern Kaduna and environs. Nothing anyone can tell me about the Nigerian army. Nigerian elites, both political and private, are too wicked, unintelligent, cruel and incompetent for my liking.

We agree to disagree.

Gerrard59:


Fair points. However, not everyone who japa'd went to the US. So, the student debt of a thing or mass shootings sounds like Greek to a Nigerian settled in the Netherlands. Also, other West African countries or even few in Southern Africa offer almost similar advantages and are very safe when compared to Nigeria. My major issue with Nigeria is insecurity. I don't like a place where the elites aren't doing anything about the insecurity situation even if I am tucked inside Banana Island.

nepa is now willing buyer and willing seller . Implex estates in ikejia have not experience power failure since year 2020 band A pro ( 60 Naira per kilo watt ) .

Gerrard59:


Well, to you. To me? The Nigerian army is too fractured along ethnic and religious lines to solve the country's security challenges. They are not doing anything if not, the president would have found a lasting situation to the crises in Southern Kaduna and environs. Nothing anyone can tell me about the Nigerian army. Nigerian elites, both political and private, are too wicked, unintelligent, cruel and incompetent for my liking.

We agree to disagree.

honestly dey do but as at it best if not we will not be having Nigeria state by now .The Nigeria Armforce is among the most well ethnically diverse organisation in Nigeria example 300 officers graduate from NDA and it around 8 per state this group progress to be commanders. So if the south east have 5 state x 8 = 40 officer while the northwest 7 x 8 =56 officer this 56 officer from the northwest are a diverse group ( Hausa, kafta, zuru,fulani ) them many in the south are more interested in professional role in the army like finance , procurement medicine while his northern counterpart is in the Infantry . Go and look at the graduation list again ! For recruit south east don't fill there quota in police and army. ( only navy and air force)

Gerrard59:


Well, to you. To me? The Nigerian army is too fractured along ethnic and religious lines to solve the country's security challenges. They are not doing anything if not, the president would have found a lasting situation to the crises in Southern Kaduna and environs. Nothing anyone can tell me about the Nigerian army. Nigerian elites, both political and private, are too wicked, unintelligent, cruel and incompetent for my liking.

We agree to disagree.

the southern kaduna ,benue and jos issue has been brewing for over 30 years and now climaxing along the flaut line. THE MUSLIM NORTH MEETS THE CHRISTIAN NORTH THE HEADER MEET THE FAMER

.the politician have exploited this defects .it beyond sending soilders .now terrorists and bandits are also exploiting the crisis. Most of the attack in southern kaduna is a tit for tat cycle .the fulani communities are also victims ( unreported ) .NB Fulanis are now a Major source of volient criminal gangs in Nigeria. The army is not well paid or funded to perform Magic .imagine paying a copral 55k per month to guard a crude pipeline in Niger delta moving 5 m USD crude per day .

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ahiboilandgas:
nepa is now willing buyer and willing seller . Implex estates in ikejia have not experience power failure since year 2020 band A pro ( 60 Naira per kilo watt ) .

Impressive! One problem is solved.

Gerrard59:


Impressive! One problem is solved.

yes so before you come to rent/buy choose neighbour with band A supply ( if you can afford it ) band b is 16 hours band e is 8 hours .but we are creating a class war .

Lol.

'Nigeria is bad but sweet' .

Gerrard59:


Well, to you. To me? The Nigerian army is too fractured along ethnic and religious lines to solve the country's security challenges. They are not doing anything if not, the president would have found a lasting situation to the crises in Southern Kaduna and environs. Nothing anyone can tell me about the Nigerian army. Nigerian elites, both political and private, are too wicked, unintelligent, cruel and incompetent for my liking.

We agree to disagree.

@ the bolded it completely true but I think you know this more than I do so let me get into your psyche, can you enunciate and probably give examples.

If the elites are dumb, well that tells you a lot about the average Joe.

Less taxes and ability to step on people that aint got up to u

I think the word people are looking for is 'geoarbritage'

see question

1 you enjoy the freedom of choice
2 the ability to get away from crazy areas
3 the ability to insulate yourself from madness
4 lots of good foods
6 you not dealing with racism
7 if sick you can see doctor right away not be on waiting list for 2 years like uk and canada
8 a more relaxed atmosphere
9 a choice of beautiful nigerian women to marry. naija girls too fine mayneeeeee
10 autonomy, off grid life. generate your own water and light
11 weather is great
12 you are not taxed to death
13 you can raise your kids how you want without the states intervention
14 if you and madam divorce the state will not take all your assets and give to her
17 you dont have to pay inheritance tax to bequeath your assets to your kids

Nothing, everything u enjoy comes from your own money.

Cheap laides

Those small small girls

Hanging out with Omoluabi Obi.

What type of money? Is it Comfortable, Rich, Wealthy or Prosperous?
What location? Provided the flash points of insecurity are taken away; the K states in Nigeria, etc

Categories Below:

You're comfortable - NGN2,000,000 - NGN4,000,000 Monthly
- You can live in a beautiful duplex in Lagos, either yearly rent (magodo, ikeja, maryland etc or you built, so many locations in Lagos)
- With that amount, you can use any of these hospitals (Lagoon, EKO, Duchess, St. Ives for kids), etc.
- Get 24 Hrs Solar and Inverter in place. With NGN1,200,000 you can get a decent installation with 6 solar panels and 2 dry cell inverter batteries
- Get Starlink or live in Fibre One coverage areas in Lagos
- Buy a decent car, one payment if you want tokunbo or approach Stanbic IBTC, subscribe for one of their Money Funds, then use the Money fund to get a loan and buy a new car.
- Save 2 months salary and go for holiday in any of the topmost destinations - UK, US, Canada or Swiss

You're Rich - NGN5,000,000 - NGN10,000,000 Monthly
- You can live in a beautiful duplex in Lagos, either yearly rent, I have added Ikoyi and many others to this list
- With that amount, you can use any of these hospitals (Lagoon, EKO, Duchess, St. Ives for kids), etc.
- Get 24 Hrs Solar and Inverter in place. With NGN2,400,000 you can get a decent installation with 14 solar panels and 4 dry cell inverter batteries
- Get Starlink or live in Fibre One coverage areas in Lagos
- Ride a new car.

You're Wealthy - NGN15,000,000 - NGN35,000,000 Monthly
- You can live in a beautiful duplex in Lagos, you can have an estate
- With that amount, you can use any of these hospitals (Lagoon, EKO, Duchess, St. Ives for kids), etc.
- Get 24 Hrs Solar and Inverter in place. With NGN3,800,000 you can get a decent installation with 20 solar panels and 8 dry cell inverter batteries
- Get Starlink or live in Fibre One coverage areas in Lagos
- Ride any new car of your choice.
- Travel any of the topmost destinations - UK, US, Canada or Swiss

You're Prosperous - NGN35,000,000 > Above
- You can live in Bourdillon
- With that amount, you can use any of these hospitals (Lagoon, EKO, Duchess Ikeja, St. Ives for kids), etc.
- Get 24 Hrs Solar and Inverter in place. With NGN3,800,000 you can get a decent installation with 20 solar panels and 8 dry cell inverter batteries
- Get Starlink or live in Fibre One coverage areas in Lagos
- Ride any new car of your choice.
- Travel any of the topmost destinations - UK, US, Canada or Swiss or Buy citizenship with the exception of Swiss,Qatar or Kuwait

You're Flourishing - NGN...


Now this is just Lagos, other states in Nigeria is far far cheaper, I agree that security is an issue in Nigeria, this is due to the endemic poverty prevalent around. If you want to be contented with your wealth, you can setup a foundation and that will give you contentment.

Also in advanced countries, security is also an issue. France isn't safe, gun violence in the states, robberies in UK, maybe swiss is better.

Also you don't get to pay for Gas, TV and so much of what the advanced countries tax their citizens.

Insults and vawulence

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You feel like a king when there are plenty poverty-stricken people around you (including women) that are ready to lick your ass.

Gerrard59:
While discussing with some buddies yesterday, we touched on the topic “moving back to Nigeria”. I argued that Nigeria is not safe. Sure, there are places that are pretty “safe”. However, my notion of safety is when other people elsewhere can go about their normal activities without fear. For instance, I don’t consider a place safe if one part of the area keeps suffering repeated attacks from Fulani herdsmen (like Southern Kaduna and Plateau). I don’t have to be the affected party, but others who go about their normal activities should feel safe doing them. The other guy countered that, with money, one could enjoy Nigeria. “Live in Maitama, run Lister generator and live quietly.” Also, you get to be in a place where almost everyone looks like you.

Upon hearing “…with money, one can enjoy Nigeria”, I asked him to list five things/ways one can enjoy Nigeria as long as the person has money. Surprisingly, he could not mention one thing/way. I thought it wise to throw it to the house, especially for those who are anti-Japa or those who have stayed abroad for a long time and currently reside in Nigeria.

As someone with money, what exactly does the person enjoy in Nigeria? What are the differences compared to his/her counterpart in say, Namibia or Canada/UK that also has money? How do you enjoy Nigeria provided the money is available?

P.S. I understand that the notion of “enjoyment” is largely subjective. Some enjoy going to parties, while others enjoy travelling around or even reading a book while in a park. But I believe there are some universal notions of enjoyment.

Just women, affording expensive things and going to expensive places.

Hmm

This whole life, at a point everything go tire you, whether you are in Nigeria or Geneva. Find your inner happiness.

Long life in terms of security, access to good hospitals, hygienic food (best cuisines), good outing and visiting exquisite places, having daily loads of mad fun... Having the freehand to do the things you always wanted, etc.