FreedomfromtheT:
I can see that you are still wilfully ignorant or simply being mischievous.
Those who have listened to Kumuyi's messages over the years know that you are typing nonsense.
The goal of Kumuyi through his consistent preaching, teaching and healing ministry is to bring as many lost souls including Jehovah's witnesses into the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus and take multitudes to heaven.
His emphasis has been on repentance leading to salvation, entire sanctification leading to holiness of life and concentration to the Lord.
He makes it clear that outward dressing and conformity without genuine salvation and purity of heart is mere self deception.
Jehovah's witnesses are a false religious sect leading multitudes to eternal hellfire which they deny doesn't exist.
Pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life is not competing with false religionists who compass sea and land to make proselytes and then make them two fold the children of hell than themselves (Matthew 23:15).
I don't know where you get this your false propaganda that is making you happy. For your information, pastor Kumuyi is not changing any truth of the Bible he has stood on all these years.
Thank you.

Stop deceiving yourself, Kumuyi is not going to heaven, he will simply die and routine in his grave after enjoying your money.

God never promised mankind heaven Jesus was talking to only Jews regarding partakers in his Kingdom, Jerusalem supposed to be their government house {Isaiah 2:3} but since those Jews have polluted that city with the blood of God's Holy prophets {Matthew 23:37-38} God allowed few Jews to be the first set of that group {Matthew 19:28} but regarding the rest of that nation God has condemned them along with their city Jerusalem {Matthew 21:43} that is why Jesus said many evil things will befall Jerusalem and it's temple {Matthew 24:1-2} his disciples became devastated after hearing this so he told them he's going back to heaven to PREPARE another government house their for them to stay with him! John 14:1-3

So Kumuyi was teaching HERESY which he got from the Catholics God never planned that humans will die and go to heaven earth is where God made for mankind! Psalms 115:16 compare to Genesis 1:26-28

You can continue deceiving yourself with Kumuyi but if you want to know the truth JWs will teach you!

FreedomfromtheT:
This is not popularity contest.
Jehovah's witnesses teach damnable heresies. They indoctrinate fellow sinners into carrying bags and literature from place to place especially on Sunday mornings telling people about God's kingdom that they are not even part of and deceiving the gullible that hellfire doesn't exist.
Pastor Kumuyi on the other hand is well known for preaching and teaching the undiluted truth of the word over the decades.
He opens the Bible and explains his teachings from same without adulteration or mutilation.
Through his consistent ministry, tens of millions of saints have gone into eternal Bliss. God has used him to train lots of Christian leaders some of whom are now shepherds of churches and ministries.
There is no basis for comparison between light and darkness.

See misinformed churchgoer Kumuyi boy!

Ọmọ quote God's word with efficacy to back up what you're saying not just asserting what is not real simply because Kumuyi has brainwashed you with his lies.

Use the Bible to prove what you're saying!

MaxInDHouse:


See misinformed churchgoer Kumuyi boy!

Ọmọ quote God's word with efficacy to back up what you're saying not just asserting what is not real simply because Kumuyi has brainwashed you with his lies.

Use the Bible to prove what you're saying!

I am not preaching here but simply reaffirming what pastor Kumuyi has been standing for. You can check where I backed up most of the things we believe for which Deeper Life is hated from the Bible earlier on this particular thread.
Alternatively, you can listen to just any message from pastor Kumuyi or any other Deeper Life minister to know whether we back our messages from the Bible or not.
Thanks.

FreedomfromtheT:
I am not preaching here but simply reaffirming what pastor Kumuyi has been standing for. You can check where I backed up most of the things we believe for which Deeper Life is hated from the Bible earlier on this particular thread.
Alternatively, you can listen to just any message from pastor Kumuyi or any other Deeper Life minister to know whether we back our messages from the Bible or not.
Thanks.

So who is brainwashed between you and i now?

I am preaching and teaching what i know with scriptural backing to prove i know what i'm saying but you're just mentioning "Kumuyi Kumuyi" as if he's the only person authorized to preach and teach.

Ọmọ next time don't try Jehovah's Witnesses each of us is fully competent and completely equipped minister of God's word not gullible followers of some liars .

That's what being disciples of Christ in all the nations means {Act 1:8} as we are known to be efficient preachers and teachers not gullible followers of some sort who can't defend their beliefs! Luke 12:11-12

FreedomfromtheT:
You are simply ignorant.
God is loving and gracious but He is certainly not an indulgent Father.
Right from the Garden of Eden, He spelt out what He loves and hates.
There are things a real child of God must not do after conversion.
Perhaps you were once a member of Deeper Life but who knows why you left? Maybe you are presently in a 'church' where everything goes.
A backslidder will not feel comfortable with the teachings against sin and worldliness.
I don't know the Deeper Life members who were or are your neighbours but we know that haters are fond of fault-finding, false accusations, exaggerations and biased judgement.
All these hateful comments cannot change one's stand before God neither does it stop new members from trooping into Deeper Life on weekly basis. I heard so much of it yet it didn't stop me from joining Deeper Life.
For your information, pastor Kumuyi is not changing the biblical truth he has been teaching and standing on for more than 50 years.
Thank you.

My friend, you're not being sincere with yourself. I'm not sending people away from Deeper Life. Deeper Life is a good church. I'm talking about the character of its members outside the church walls.

There isn't a single accusations in my post except you want to see my analysis as an accusation. You yourself know that what I have said up there is the truth except you want to be living in self denial.

I don't hate Deeper life church except you don't want to get my points. I still listen to Kumuyi. You guys should sit up and become true examples of believers. Live your lives in righteousness, love and faith. If you can't balance these 3, you're just deceiving yourselves.

FreedomfromtheT:
My friend, your erroneous generalizations, character assassinations and exaggerations for which Deeper Life haters are well known are not the truth. But clap for yourself all the same Mr judge.
Granted that in every 12 there might likely be a Judas, a lot of Deeper Life members are born again, sanctified and on their way to heaven, but are you Mr. faultfinder?
Have you looked yourself in the mirror Mr. Deeper Life hater.
Thank God pastor Kumuyi is reforming the Church as should be in every true Church of Christ.
Hope you will be part of the people to be reformed or do you prefer to be a criticising Pharisee?

You're a typical example of what I've said about Deeper Life members. Readers don't need to look anywhere else to verify everything I've said.

Since yesterday, you've been calling me names and raining insults upon insult to which I never replied you according to the tenor of your words.

Go and check yourself. Only those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. Your emotional outbursts don't change anything.

FxMasterz:

You're a typical example of what I've said about Deeper Life members. Readers don't need to look anywhere else to verify everything I've said.

Since yesterday, you've been calling me names and raining insults upon insult to which I never replied you according to the tenor of your words.

Go and check yourself. Only those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God. Your emotional outbursts don't change anything.

I didn't insult you sir. I simply addressed you by what you assumed to be, Mr. faultfinding, character assassinating judge of those who are better than him.

FxMasterz:

My friend, you're not being sincere with yourself. I'm not sending people away from Deeper Life. Deeper Life is a good church. I'm talking about the character of its members outside the church walls.

There isn't a single accusations in my post except you want to see my analysis as an accusation. You yourself know that what I have said up there is the truth except you want to be living in self denial.

I don't hate Deeper life church except you don't want to get my points. I still listen to Kumuyi. You guys should sit up and become true examples of believers. Live your lives in righteousness, love and faith. If you can't balance these 3, you're just deceiving yourselves.

Point of correction my friend.
Deeper Life Bible Church is not a building. So if the Church is good according to your statement, then her members are not exactly what you painted.
The fact that you listen to pastor Kumuyi means he teaches the right thing which a lot of Deeper Life members are living by.
Generalization of the character flaws of a few and and accusing Deeper Life members of not living our 'lives in righteousness, love and faith' shows your biased mindset towards Deeper Life members and how you contradict yourself concerning the members of a Church you agree are good.
BTW, who are you and how is your own life, Mr judge of Deeper Life?

MaxInDHouse:


So who is brainwashed between you and i now?

I am preaching and teaching what i know with scriptural backing to prove i know what i'm saying but you're just mentioning "Kumuyi Kumuyi" as if he's the only person authorized to preach and teach.

Ọmọ next time don't try Jehovah's Witnesses each of us is fully competent and completely equipped minister of God's word not gullible followers of some liars .

That's what being disciples of Christ in all the nations means {Act 1:8} as we are known to be efficient preachers and teachers not gullible followers of some sort who can't defend their beliefs! Luke 12:11-12

This thread is about why people hate Deeper Life members. You have demonstrated why you hate the people of God by your constant attack of pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life members.
I knew what I believed since I got saved on the 18th of November, 1999.
I didn't get save through pastor Kumuyi or the Deeper Life Bible Church. But I admire him a lot as one of the few genuine men of God around and as it pleased God, I joined the Deeper Life Bible Church eventually.
I do listen to people preach it teach and I compare with the scriptures to know if what they teach is according to God's word. If not, I will not buy it.
But there are certainly people I don't listen to because I know they are character deficient or teachers of false doctrines jws inclusive.
By the grace of God, I am not a religious sinner who is indoctrinated into a certain religious sect trying to prove superiority.
A sinner remains one until he comes into the saving knowledge of Christ irrespective of how religious or fanatical such a one is.
Please get this right. Mental accent of biblical quotations or being versed in the Scriptures while you remain a hateful, envious character assassinating sinner fighting for religious superiority of your sect doesn't make you a Christian.
Saul of Tarsus was like that until Christ encountered him on the way to Damascus. May you and your likes encounter Christ before you die in Jesus' name, Amen.

Still another gibberish without anything tangible to take home!

Food for thought:

Why is there contradictions in what the churches of Christendom are teaching?

Why can't you preach one or two things about God's Kingdom?

What exactly is unique about Kumuyi that all other so called pastors don't have?

Ọmọ you're just a brainwashed dummy, i'm not attacking anyone i'm just telling you the indisputable truth about things you need to consider for your salvation instead of following a popular religious title chief with nothing to show for your own faith in God! 2Timothy 3:13

FreedomfromtheT:
This thread is about why people hate Deeper Life members. You have demonstrated why you hate the people of God by your constant attack of pastor Kumuyi and Deeper Life members.
I knew what I believed since I got saved on the 18th of November, 1999.
I didn't get save through pastor Kumuyi or the Deeper Life Bible Church. But I admire him a lot as one of the few genuine men of God around and as it pleased God, I joined the Deeper Life Bible Church eventually.
I do listen to people preach it teach and I compare with the scriptures to know if what they teach is according to God's word. If not, I will not buy it.
But there are certainly people I don't listen to because I know they are character deficient or teachers of false doctrines jws inclusive.
By the grace of God, I am not a religious sinner who is indoctrinated into a certain religious sect trying to prove superiority.
A sinner remains one until he comes into the saving knowledge of Christ irrespective of how religious or fanatical such a one is.
Please get this right. Mental accent of biblical quotations or being versed in the Scriptures while you remain a hateful, envious character assassinating sinner fighting for religious superiority of your sect doesn't make you a Christian.
Saul of Tarsus was like that until Christ encountered him on the way to Damascus. May you and your likes encounter Christ before you die in Jesus' name, Amen.

Them sabi tight their leg well well..that is the girls..

MaxInDHouse:
Still another gibberish without anything tangible to take home!

Food for thought:

Why is there contradictions in what the churches of Christendom are teaching?

Why can't you preach one or two things about God's Kingdom?

What exactly is unique about Kumuyi that all other so called pastors don't have?

Ọmọ you're just a brainwashed dummy, i'm not attacking anyone i'm just telling you the indisputable truth about things you need to consider for your salvation instead of following a popular religious title chief with nothing to show for your own faith in God! 2Timothy 3:13

One of your errors as jws, is to group your socalled 'Christendom' together.
I don't tell others what to preach because I didn't call them.
But I have a duty to my soul to accept only the truth of the Scriptures.
I also have a sacred duty to warn the unwary about false doctrines like those of the Jehovah's witnesses.
The unique thing about genuine men of God including pastor Kumuyi is that they live what they preach and have been doing so consistently by the grace of God.
This thread I remind you is about why people hate Deeper Life members.
You brought up the attack on pastor Kumuyi and have not hidden your envy on the anointed man of God and the Church God graciously used him to raise up.
I am saved by God's grace.
I also fellowship with the Deeper Life Bible Church.
I equally hold pastor Kumuyi and other real men of God in high esteem as recommended in Scripture(1st Thessalonians 5:12,13, Hebrews 13:7).
You can continue your hatred. It doesn't change anything.
Thank you.

FreedomfromtheT:
.
I don't tell others what to preach because I didn't call them.

We tell anyone who wants to preach for Jesus of Nazareth what they must preach!

In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 3:1-2

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 10:7

Even if an angel come down from heaven to preach any other thing such an angel is accursed! Galatians 1:8

So we train disciples for Christ Jesus and teach them what to preach! Matthew 28:19-20

FreedomfromtheT:
Point of correction my friend.
Deeper Life Bible Church is not a building. So if the Church is good according to your statement, then her members are not exactly what you painted.
The fact that you listen to pastor Kumuyi means he teaches the right thing which a lot of Deeper Life members are living by.
Generalization of the character flaws of a few and and accusing Deeper Life members of not living our 'lives in righteousness, love and faith' shows your biased mindset towards Deeper Life members and how you contradict yourself concerning the members of a Church you agree are good.
BTW, who are you and how is your own life, Mr judge of Deeper Life?

When you know you're not interested in hearing the truth, why did you create a thread? I've been to Deeper Life and many other churches. No church is perfect. I've lived with many Deeper Life members. I don't hate Deeper Life. What I said about them is the truth from the experience I've had with quite a number of them. If you created this thread to argue instead of lending a listening ear and going back to the church to positively influence the church, then, you're insincere.

I'll regard you as an hypocrite if you created this thread to hear only good things said about Deeper Life. I guess you'll have been so happy if I have lied to you that Deeper Life members are perfect. Oh, oh, they're so good and nice. All of them are angels. That's why you want to hear, isn't it? Keep deceiving yourself.

I'm not a perfect man myself, but if I hear someone tell me my own flaws, I'll be grateful and start working on myself to make myself a better person.

I can't understand the type of Christianity you're practising. Is your allegiance to Deeper Life or to the Lord Jesus? Tell me.

Those people who worship daily at the church are souls purchased with the blood of Christ. Do them the favour of prompting them to look inwards and get themselves better positioned to stand before Christ on that day without spot and without blemish.
My constant striving and prayer is that we all may be confident and not be ashamed to stand in His Presence at His appearing.

Shalom.

FreedomfromtheT:
I didn't insult you sir. I simply addressed you by what you assumed to be, Mr. faultfinding, character assassinating judge of those who are better than him.

With reference to the bolded above.

I am not here to argue with you. You don't know me but you've already concluded that you're better than me. I wouldn't dispute that but listen to the words of the Lord Jesus in the portion of scripture below:

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:9-14.

This is the very problem that breeds all the issues Deeper Life members have - self righteousness. Over-dependence on the flesh.

Your canality is so evident in all your posts. Tell me more.

I do not consider myself to be better than anyone. I'm not yet where He wants me to be, but "I keep pressing towards the mark..." If you're actually better than me, congratulations!

FxMasterz:


With reference to the bolded above.

I am not here to argue with you. You don't know me but you've already concluded that you're better than me. I wouldn't dispute that but listen to the words of the Lord Jesus in the portion of scripture below:

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:9-14.

This is the very problem that breeds all the issues Deeper Life members have - self righteousness. Over-dependence on the flesh.

Your canality is so evident in all your posts. Tell me more.

I do not consider myself to be better than anyone. I'm not yet where He wants me to be, but "I keep pressing towards the mark..." If you're actually better than me, congratulations!

Please stop personalizing, twisting and misinterpreting my comments.
I never said I am better than you. I may be my God's grace but I never said so.
I merely responded to your judgemental attitude towards all Deeper Life members which is unbecoming of a Bible believer you want us to believe you are.
I don't know you personally but I can deduce your mindset and character from your comments.
A lot Deeper Life members do not generalize and cast aspersions on all
members of a large and reputable Church like Deeper Life known for holiness and righteousness so they are certainly better than you.
You are just being clever by half in playing the victim card yet your target is to judge all Deeper Life members of "self righteousness and overdependence on the flesh". From this your comment above you are simply a biased, hateful religious hypocrite.
Your lame attempt at character assassination doesn't count before God neither does it stop Deeper Life in any way.
I will advise you to focus on your life and leave Deeper Life members alone.
Thank you.

FxMasterz:

When you know you're not interested in hearing the truth, why did you create a thread? I've been to Deeper Life and many other churches. No church is perfect. I've lived with many Deeper Life members. I don't hate Deeper Life. What I said about them is the truth from the experience I've had with quite a number of them. If you created this thread to argue instead of lending a listening ear and going back to the church to positively influence the church, then, you're insincere.

I'll regard you as an hypocrite if you created this thread to hear only good things said about Deeper Life. I guess you'll have been so happy if I have lied to you that Deeper Life members are perfect. Oh, oh, they're so good and nice. All of them are angels. That's why you want to hear, isn't it? Keep deceiving yourself.

I'm not a perfect man myself, but if I hear someone tell me my own flaws, I'll be grateful and start working on myself to make myself a better person.

I can't understand the type of Christianity you're practising. Is your allegiance to Deeper Life or to the Lord Jesus? Tell me.

Those people who worship daily at the church are souls purchased with the blood of Christ. Do them the favour of prompting them to look inwards and get themselves better positioned to stand before Christ on that day without spot and without blemish.
My constant striving and prayer is that we all may be confident and not be ashamed to stand in His Presence at His appearing.

Shalom.

Jesus is my Lord and Saviour. My allegiance is to Him.
I also have a duty to defend His local Church which He has purchased with His own blood part of which a lot of Deeper Life members are. I have a duty to correct some negative impression which a lot of ignorant people have about Christ's local church so that those who are being made to believe lies can know the truth.
For your information, this thread was opened to know why people hate Deeper Life members.
What you stated above are just typical flaws of some members all local churches because there are certainly mixed multitude everywhere.
A popular though, unscriptural adage says that in every 12, there are likely to be a Judas but it is better to have the ratio of 11 saints and 1 Judas than to have 1 saint and 11 Judases.
If you have actually being listening to Deeper Life messages, there will be no need to make the solicitations above.
I wanted you to tell us why you hate Deeper Life members if you do or why you think others hate Deeper Life.
If not, then allow those who hate Deeper Life or who know why Deeper Life members are hated to comment.
Amen to your above prayers.

FreedomfromtheT:
Jesus is my Lord and Saviour. My allegiance is to Him.
I also have a duty to defend His local Church which He has purchased with His own blood part of which a lot of Deeper Life members are. I have a duty to correct some negative impression which a lot of ignorant people have about Christ's local church so that those who are being made to believe lies can know the truth.
For your information, this thread was opened to know why people hate Deeper Life members.
What you stated above are just typical flaws of some members all local churches because there are certainly mixed multitude everywhere.
A popular though, unscriptural adage says that in every 12, there are likely to be a Judas but it is better to have the ratio of 11 saints and 1 Judas than to have 1 saint and 11 Judases.
If you have actually being listening to Deeper Life messages, there will be no need to make the solicitations above.
I wanted you to tell us why you hate Deeper Life members if you do or why you think others hate Deeper Life.
If not, then allow those who hate Deeper Life or who know why Deeper Life members are hated to comment.
Amen to your above prayers.

I don't hate Deeper Life members. You mean if someone tells you your flaws, that means that person hates you? I only said what I've seen. You can't force me to say what I never saw.

What defence are you trying to put up for the church? You want to keep paying leap service to your church members instead of telling them the truth that may give them godly sorrow that leads to repentance? I'm ashamed of you!

You said and I quote: "What you stated above are just typical flaws of some members all local churches because there are certainly mixed multitude everywhere."

Now, tell me how this defers from what I've said from day 1? From day 1, I have said that all churches have their flaws because no church is perfect. I even stated that the flaws appear because canal people are always more than spiritually minded people. I went ahead to say that I can talk about many churches because I've related with many of them, but that since this thread is focused on Deeper Life, I'll talk only about Deeper Life. For this reason you tagged me as "... Satan's children." I'm surprised that you can still come back to re-echo my words. If you still have any iota of truth, contriteness and brokenness in you, you should repent.

FreedomfromtheT:
Please stop personalizing, twisting and misinterpreting my comments.
I never said I am better than you. I may be my God's grace but I never said so.
I merely responded to your judgemental attitude towards all Deeper Life members which is unbecoming of a Bible believer you want us to believe you are.
I don't know you personally but I can deduce your mindset and character from your comments.
A lot Deeper Life members do not generalize and cast aspersions on all
members of a large and reputable Church like Deeper Life known for holiness and righteousness so they are certainly better than you.
You are just being clever by half in playing the victim card yet your target is to judge all Deeper Life members of "self righteousness and overdependence on the flesh". From this your comment above you are simply a biased, hateful religious hypocrite.
Your lame attempt at character assassination doesn't count before God neither does it stop Deeper Life in any way.
I will advise you to focus on your life and leave Deeper Life members alone.
Thank you.

All your posts and comments already give you out. I can't call you a true soldier of Christ. Your lies and hypocrisy are too much.

Read all my posts again and quote for me here and now where I said 'all Deeper Life members are like that.' I used the word 'some' with the implication that those 'some' are in the majority because canal people are always more than people are always more than the spiritually minded in all Churches.

I'll be waiting for you to prove me wrong.

MaxInDHouse:


We tell anyone who wants to preach for Jesus of Nazareth what they must preach!

In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea, And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 3:1-2

From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 4:17

And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew 10:7

Even if an angel come down from heaven to preach any other thing such an angel is accursed! Galatians 1:8

So we train disciples for Christ Jesus and teach them what to preach! Matthew 28:19-20

That is not the point.
You as a member of Jehovah's witnesses is able to indoctrinate people that only 144,000 people are going to heaven, that the soul is mortal and that there is no hellfire but total annihilation of sinners etc contrary to what Jesus taught because they listen and believe you (Revelation 7:9; Luke 16:13-28; Acts 7:55-60; Matthew 25:41,46).
I can only disciple those that listen to me who are ready to be saved or who are actually saved on what Christ expects from them.
You keep on erroneously lumping us together with other churches and ministries that you call Christendom as though we are the same or want people to believe we are the same.
I repeat. I don't have the right to tell other preachers what to preach because I didn't call them.
Of course, there are a lot of other preachers of truth outside Deeper Life by whose fruits of genuine salvation, right living and focus on what takes people to heaven ye shall know (Matthew 7:20).
God has graciously made me to be able to severe truth from error and I can't pretend not to know the truth.
I only tell those who care to listen the truth as I am doing here but certainly can't force anybody as we are all free moral agents.
Believed:
God so loves you so much He doesn't want you to perish (John 3:16),
You were born a sinner (Psalms 51:5, Romans 3:23)
You can't save yourself by your self-efforts or religious accomplishments (Acts 10:1-6; Titus 3:5).
Make sure you repent from sin and get saved before you die. Do not delay.
Christ Jesus is the only Saviour (Acts 4:10-12).
If you are actually saved, your life will change and you will receive the grace to sin no more(Ephesians 2:8,9).
Irrespective of the quantum of your sins, background, religion, class or race, Christ Jesus died for you and will receive you if you repent and come to Him (John 1:11,12, 29).
Once you die, there is no more room for repentance and salvation and no prayers said on your behalf will avail either (Isaiah 55:6, 7; Hebrews 9:27).
Once you die, your soul will either go to a resting place with God or a place of torment (Luke 16: 22-28, 23:42,43; Philippians 1:21-24; 2nd Peter 1:13,14)..
There are only two destinations after death - heaven or hell (Matthew 7:13,14; 25:41,46).
If you land in eternal flame of hell, it is your fault, not God's, but you will not perish in Jesus' name, Amen.
Please don't be deceived!

FxMasterz:


All your posts and comments already give you out. I can't call you a true soldier of Christ. Your lies and hypocrisy are too much.

Read all my posts again and quote for me here and now where I said 'all Deeper Life members are like that.' I used the word 'some' with the implication that those 'some' are in the majority because canal people are always more than people are always more than the spiritually minded in all Churches.

I'll be waiting for you to prove me wrong.

If what you said is applicable to all churches, then why the focus on Deeper Life?
How do you know that your 'some' are in the majority in Deeper Life?
Who took the census?
Who gave you the assignment?
What is your real motive?
Have you converted and corrected all the members of your own present local assembly since majority of them have their own issues according to you?
You are simply crossing your boundaries.
I sincerely apologize for any words I have used on you that are bad or wrongly placed.
Please stay on your lane and leave Deeper Life members alone.
But if you choose to continue lampooning the members of Deeper Life, I only leave your judgement to God.
Thank you.

FxMasterz:

I don't hate Deeper Life members. You mean if someone tells you your flaws, that means that person hates you? I only said what I've seen. You can't force me to say what I never saw.

What defence are you trying to put up for the church? You want to keep paying leap service to your church members instead of telling them the truth that may give them godly sorrow that leads to repentance? I'm ashamed of you!

You said and I quote: "What you stated above are just typical flaws of some members all local churches because there are certainly mixed multitude everywhere."

Now, tell me how this defers from what I've said from day 1? From day 1, I have said that all churches have their flaws because no church is perfect. I even stated that the flaws appear because canal people are always more than spiritually minded people. I went ahead to say that I can talk about many churches because I've related with many of them, but that since this thread is focused on Deeper Life, I'll talk only about Deeper Life. For this reason you tagged me as "... Satan's children." I'm surprised that you can still come back to re-echo my words. If you still have any iota of truth, contriteness and brokenness in you, you should repent.

If all churches have their flaws, are they also hated like Deeper Life members are?
If your motive is wrong, you are certainly a child of Satan. But if your motive is good, then God bless you.
My apologies once again if I misunderstood you and for any wrong words used.
God bless lovers of God's children.

You're just beating about the bush as you have nothing tangible to preach or teach!

Speak about what you know regarding God's Kingdom after all you're not preaching to lead anyone to your imaginary hell fire.
So talk about what God's Kingdom will bring to believers not threatening those who disagree with you, let's hear the blessings God's Kingdom will bring!

FreedomfromtheT:
That is not the point.
You as a member of Jehovah's witnesses is able to indoctrinate people that only 144,000 people are going to heaven, that the soul is mortal and that there is no hellfire but total annihilation of sinners etc contrary to what Jesus taught because they listen and believe you (Revelation 7:9; Luke 16:13-28; Acts 7:55-60; Matthew 25:41,46).
I can only disciple those that listen to me who are ready to be saved or who are actually saved on what Christ expects from them.
You keep on erroneously lumping us together with other churches and ministries that you call Christendom as though we are the same or want people to believe we are the same.
I repeat. I don't have the right to tell other preachers what to preach because I didn't call them.
Of course, there are a lot of other preachers of truth outside Deeper Life by whose fruits of genuine salvation, right living and focus on what takes people to heaven ye shall know (Matthew 7:20).
God has graciously made me to be able to severe truth from error and I can't pretend not to know the truth.
I only tell those who care to listen the truth as I am doing here but certainly can't force anybody as we are all free moral agents.
Believed:
God so loves you so much He doesn't want you to perish (John 3:16),
You were born a sinner (Psalms 51:5, Romans 3:23)
You can't save yourself by your self-efforts or religious accomplishments (Acts 10:1-6; Titus 3:5).
Make sure you repent from sin and get saved before you die. Do not delay.
Christ Jesus is the only Saviour (Acts 4:10-12).
If you are actually saved, your life will change and you will receive the grace to sin no more(Ephesians 2:8,9).
Irrespective of the quantum of your sins, background, religion, class or race, Christ Jesus died for you and will receive you if you repent and come to Him (John 1:11,12, 29).
Once you die, there is no more room for repentance and salvation and no prayers said on your behalf will avail either (Isaiah 55:6, 7; Hebrews 9:27).
Once you die, your soul will either go to a resting place with God or a place of torment (Luke 16: 22-28, 23:42,43; Philippians 1:21-24; 2nd Peter 1:13,14)..
There are only two destinations after death - heaven or hell (Matthew 7:13,14; 25:41,46).
If you land in eternal flame of hell, it is your fault, not God's, but you will not perish in Jesus' name, Amen.
Please don't be deceived!

What is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom?

That's what no other religion can decipher if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses you can never ever know it, all you'll continue doing is feeling of torment and fear of the unknown whereas we have the GOOD NEWS that even an atheist will be touched when he hears it.
But since Satan's agents like Kumuyi and co has infused hatred in your head you will look at us as if we're evil instead of listening to gain the accurate knowledge of God's word.

You just want to go to heaven, what is going on there you don't care to know, why did Jesus promised taking some believers there you don't care to know, what God promised righteous people in ancient times you don't care to know it's all about fear of not been tormented that's driving you up and down even though it's a lie you just feel that anyone who disagree is not a believer. I pity you o if you can read but blinded yourself to the truth!

FreedomfromtheT:
If all churches have their flaws, are they also hated like Deeper Life members are?
If your motive is wrong, you are certainly a child of Satan. But if your motive is good, then God bless you.
My apologies once again if I misunderstood you and for any wrong words used.
God bless lovers of God's children.

Your apology is accepted but I do not hold any resentment against you. I just want you to know that I don't hate Deeper Life members. We're all members of the same body, and I love them fervently with the love of Christ which is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit which has been given unto us. I still hosted some Pastors' wives in my house of recent.

Even as a father rebukes because he loves the child, a true brother would not engage in flatteries but to speak the truth as it is. The truth is always bitter but delivers good rewards to those who love it.

Finally, let's hear the words of David the sweet psalmist of Israel who was also opportune to walk in the Wisdom of God:

Psalm 141:5

5 Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head:"

May the Lord Jesus, that Great Shepherd of the flock keep us established in the faith, sanctify us wholly and make us unblameable in His Presence on that day.

All is well in Jesus mighty name.

FxMasterz:

Your apology is accepted but I do not hold any resentment against you. I just want you to know that I don't hate Deeper Life members. We're all members of the same body, and I love them fervently with the love of Christ which is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit which has been given unto us. I still hosted some Pastors' wives in my house of recent.

Even as a father rebukes because he loves the child, a true brother would not engage in flatteries but to speak the truth as it is. The truth is always bitter but delivers good rewards to those who love it.

Finally, let's hear the words of David the sweet psalmist of Israel who was also opportune to walk in the Wisdom of God:

Psalm 141:5

5 Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head:"

May the Lord Jesus, that Great Shepherd of the flock keep us established in the faith, sanctify us wholly and make us unblameable in His Presence on that day.

All is well in Jesus mighty name.

Amen.

MaxInDHouse:
You're just beating about the bush as you have nothing tangible to preach or teach!

Speak about what you know regarding God's Kingdom after all you're not preaching to lead anyone to your imaginary hell fire.
So talk about what God's Kingdom will bring to believers not threatening those who disagree with you, let's hear the blessings God's Kingdom will bring!

True servants of Christ teach the whole truth without sentiments out of love for people's never dying souls. We don't gamble with people's eternal wellbeing.
Getting saved and getting into the Kingdom is same as escaping the damnation of hell (Mathew 23:33).
Salvation also brings peace from the Prince of peace because there is no peace for the wicked (the stubborn sinner).
Reconciliation with God through Christ also ensures God's abiding presence here on earth despite the turbulence and troubles (John 16:33).
It guarantees speedy answer to one's prayers. etc.
Your denial of the existence of hellfire doesn't change the reality.
Christ warned His disciples, followers as well as the hypocritical religious Pharisess that hellfire actually exists (Matthew 23:15,33; 25:41,46; Luke 12:4,5; Revelation 21:.
It is sheer wickedness to know the reality of eternal damnation for the unrepentant and pretend it doesn't.
It is wickedness to "compass sea and land to make proselytes only to make them twofold the children of hell than yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).
By the grace of God, many who have been deceived by your religious sect will have their eyes open and know the truth that will set them free before they die in Jesus' name, Amen
(John 8:31,32).

FreedomfromtheT:
True servants of Christ teach the whole truth without sentiments out of love for people's never dying souls. We don't gamble with people's eternal wellbeing.
Getting saved and getting into the Kingdom is same as escaping the damnation of hell (Mathew 23:33).
Salvation also brings peace from the Prince of peace because there is no peace for the wicked (the stubborn sinner).
Reconciliation with God through Christ also ensures God's abiding presence here on earth despite the turbulence and troubles (John 16:33).
It guarantees speedy answer to one's prayers. etc.
Your denial of the existence of hellfire doesn't change the reality.
Christ warned His disciples, followers as well as the hypocritical religious Pharisess that hellfire actually exists (Matthew 23:15,33; 25:41,46; Luke 12:4,5; Revelation 21:.
It is sheer wickedness to know the reality of eternal damnation for the unrepentant and pretend it doesn't.
It is wickedness to "compass sea and land to make proselytes only to make them twofold the children of hell than yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).
By the grace of God, many who have been deceived by your religious sect will have their eyes open and know the truth that will set them free before they die in Jesus' name, Amen
(John 8:31,32).

Obviously you know nothing about the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom, all you have in your skull is the threat of your imaginary hell fire.

Now read GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom:

When God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} Jesus will be ordered {Psalms 110:1-2} to destroy all the bad rulers making life uneasy for mankind! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27

He will see to it that there is plenty of food all over the planet! Psalms 72:16 compare to Luke 9:11-17

He will open the eyes of all blind people no matter the condition of their blindness! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 9:7

He will make the lame walk no matter what has caused their disability! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 5:8

He will cure all manners of insanity! Matthew 9:32; 15:22

He will control all the forces of nature for the well-being of obedient mankind! Mark 4:39

He will make sure that nobody get sick, grow old nor die again! Isaiah 25:8 compare to Luke 8:52-55

He will make peace reign to the extremity of the earth for the benefit of obedient mankind! Isaiah 37:9-11

He will wipe every tears from our eyes and we will no longer remember the pain sin brought upon mankind! Revelations 21:3-4

These is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom not just stories of some imaginary hell fire with nothing GOOD as NEWS!

MaxInDHouse:


Obviously you know nothing about the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom, all you have in your skull is the threat of your imaginary hell fire.

Now read GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom:

When God's Kingdom comes {Matthew 6:10} Jesus will be ordered {Psalms 110:1-2} to destroy all the bad rulers making life uneasy for mankind! Daniel 2:44 compare to Luke 19:27

He will see to it that there is plenty of food all over the planet! Psalms 72:16 compare to Luke 9:11-17

He will open the eyes of all blind people no matter the condition of their blindness! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 9:7

He will make the lame walk no matter what has caused their disability! Isaiah 35:5 compare to John 5:8

He will cure all manners of insanity! Matthew 9:32; 15:22

He will control all the forces of nature for the well-being of obedient mankind! Mark 4:39

He will make sure that nobody get sick, grow old nor die again! Isaiah 25:8 compare to Luke 8:52-55

He will make peace reign to the extremity of the earth for the benefit of obedient mankind! Isaiah 37:9-11

He will wipe every tears from our eyes and we will no longer remember the pain sin brought upon mankind! Revelations 21:3-4

These is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom not just stories of some imaginary hell fire with nothing GOOD as NEWS!

Your ignorance is glaring sir.
There is bad news as well as good news and both are permitted by God to be written in the Scriptures.
The bad news is that all have sinned as offsprings of Adam and thus are on their way to perdition in hellfire if nothing is done (Romans 3:23).
Thank God for the good news which is that Christ has come to deliver those who accept Him from the wrath to come (1st Thessalonians 1:10).
It is a scam to give people one-sided information especially about the eternal consequences of their life on earth.
You can keep on deceiving yourself and the deceived that hellfire is imaginary until you get there (I pray it doesn't happen to you).
Let's assume Jehovah's witnesses are right that hellfire is imaginary and I die believing hellfire is real. What do I have to lose?
On the other hand, what if you live your life believing that hellfire is imaginary as taught by Jehovah's witnesses, only to die and to your chagrin, there is hellfire and it is for all ETERNITY, will there be any remedies?
Why take chances with your eternal wellbeing?
Why gamble with the prospect of an eternal, uncorrectable mistake?
Why not be on the safe side?
I know people are wise.

sonmvayina:
Them sabi tight their leg well well..that is the girls..

How do you mean sir?
Is that why you hate them?

Jesus never asked us to go and preach bad news because bad news is everywhere already so what mankind need is GOOD NEWS that will gladden the hearts of faithful people and of course evildoers know that when talking about reward from God they will be excluded.

So instead of crying everyday about what will happen to evildoers Jesus sent us out to preach and teach what will bring a relief.

That's the purpose of the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom!

FreedomfromtheT:
Your ignorance is glaring sir.
There is bad news as well as good news and both are permitted by God to be written in the Scriptures.
The bad news is that all have sinned as offsprings of Adam and thus are on their way to perdition in hellfire if nothing is done (Romans 3:23).
Thank God for the good news which is that Christ has come to deliver those who accept Him from the wrath to come (1st Thessalonians 1:10).
It is a scam to give people one-sided information especially about the eternal consequences of their life on earth.
You can keep on deceiving yourself and the deceived that hellfire is imaginary until you get there (I pray it doesn't happen to you).
Let's assume Jehovah's witnesses are right that hellfire is imaginary and I die believing hellfire is real. What do I have to lose?
On the other hand, what if you live your life believing that hellfire is imaginary as taught by Jehovah's witnesses, only to die and to your chagrin, there is hellfire and it is for all ETERNITY, will there be any remedies?
Why take chances with your eternal wellbeing?
Why gamble with the prospect of an eternal, uncorrectable mistake?
Why not be on the safe side?
I know people are wise.

LoLz, yanga dey sleep trouble go wake am.