beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

AllenSpencer:


Why I stated the lady must be of a lower class. You won’t in the first place, throw such proposal to a lady doing well.

The proposal is pure extortion.

Westerhoffe:
What will be your reaction if someone gives your sister such conditions?

Ajibade123:

Honestly a woman with potentials that have things going on in her life and her career, even if she's 40 won't accept this rubbish offer

Abifarin16:


Him think say belle na play. He is the one that has been affected negatively by the west. If she no come born what happens?
If you he wants to marry her marry her, which one is get her pregnant because the kids will have dual citizenship. What is she even gaining in this, a promise that the kids will be something in the future. Oya put it in writing,
Abbi na verbal agreement that you will come and renegade on when you see someone else. Janet Jackson that signed a pre-nup with the Qatari prince and billionaire got huge money out of the deal.

This is selfish to me. Abbii na scam?

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

AllenSpencer:
I want to believe the girl is hungry and why you had the effrontery to throw such proposal at her!

She should become a baby mama because of dual citizenship? Does dual citizenship guarantee her love, affection, or marriage. Will same dual citizenship put food on her table in an eventuality?

Location does not “GUARANTEE” that kids will be a blessing. There are records of kids becoming very successful within Nigeria and internationally.

I don’t see a single thing she has to gain. If she was selling the babies to you, that would have been better. She has absolutely nothing to gain. All promises made are not guaranteed. Moreover, the proposal is insultive.

sharone21:


I love intelligent people who use facts to back up what they write.... Janet still left that guy....How much more Op.

I love how u, Allen Spencer, Westerhoff and Doggedfighter wrote.

Bia, Op are you God? .... There are many single mums married to the best even here in Nigeria.....Even a widow with 4 kids that a man from USA married her and the kids are now adults doing well, all the guy wanted was a woman to love and care for him.... Even Reggy Askia etc.

alizma:

It has nothing to do with him if the offer is thrown to his sister, this is a personal decision.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

AllenSpencer:


Why I stated the lady must be of a lower class. You won’t in the first place, throw such proposal to a lady doing well.

The proposal is pure extortion.

Westerhoffe:


You don't take advantage of people because you see them as weak at that moment… that's what this proposal reeks.

beekind:

I have never seen this kind of response in forums in the western world, part of the reason we are a third world country is that people are unable to articulate themselves objectively.
What is the point of this emotional rebuttal.

If someone gives my sister that option, its her choice not mine and I wouldn't feel anything since shes not being coerced, shes being given an option which she can choose to accept or reject.

As a matter of fact, it is better to meet someone who is honest from the get go about what he wants than to marry, abandon the lady and travel back abroad which a lot of Nigerian men do , they leave their wives here and refuse to sponsor her abroad.

So me putting all my cards on the table is a sign of integrity in case you do not realise that.

alizma:

This is where you guys mistake our politicians.
This is purely an offer, take it or leave it. The lady has through her path to enjoying her life, got pregnant and had a child/children for another man. Many of you trying to speak in the girl's favor will not for any reason, accept a single mother but you are here to criticize a man who accepts her with an offer. Rather that criticize the guy, look for the girl and advice net not to take the offer.

LandMann:


You sound stupid and narcissistic when you keep using this stale line of defense. Majority of everyone here is telling you that they disagree with your proposal and you keep coming up with useless reasons to justify your useless proposal.

If you do an analysis you'll see that majority of those responding are men like you. The difference between you and them is not that you're better off or a dual citizen or more educated... The difference is that they still have their compassion for humanity intact while you have lost your compassion having spent many years in a developed but cold and heartless country chasing money.

You're narcissistic and trying to take advantage of the woman in question. To know that your proposal is faulty, why didn't you find a Nigerian in the same country you reside in and make this same proposal to her? Because you will be rejected and even arrested for exploitation.

You're 35 yet you're still single. So, no girl in your miserable 35 years of existence found you worthy to settle down with?

Would you allow a man make same proposal to your daughter in future or will your heartlessness make u look away and claim it's her choice?

You're an unhappy man. That's what you get when you spend years in a cold heartless country where nobody cares about your black ass.

Unfortunately for you, in Nigeria, despite the multitude of problems we have, people still care for each other.

Nigerians are telling you that your proposal is heartless and narcissistic. Go back to your country of residence and make your ugly proposal to any girl you find there. They're heartless like you and they'll be more receptive of your inhuman proposal

AlphaHakimi:
Women should understand that their value decreases as they age. Men seek to marry valuable women. A 29 year old single mother should be grateful to get this kind of deal. If roles were reversed, women would not settle for a low value man.

Men should begin to view marriage as transactional. Women view marriage are transactional.
That being said, Functional families should strive to raise high value kids.

Shalom

Westerhoffe:
What will be your reaction if someone gives your sister such conditions?

Jovialjune1:



I wish this type of proposal for your daughter, that is, when she's 29 and a single mother, so that you can preach to her to be grateful because she is valueless.

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

AlphaHakimi:


Victim mentality.
Tell me what is good and honorable in being a single mother(except a widow). When you hoe around during your prime, you expect a man who has worked his ass off to come and marry you as a single mother. What happened to marrying the father of your child?.

A single mother is equivalent to mentally retarded broke man. The same way you view such men is the same way men view single mothers.

Avoid premarital sex, avoid collecting any form of material or financial help from a man. That way you will be young and pure and men cannot give such conditions as stated by the OP.

Westerhoffe:



In your eyes now, you've made a point?
Never again tag me with any people who follows politicians blindly.
And comparing this to politicians even does not rhyme with this case.

They say, "If you claim you know how to write, remember those who knows how to read. And if you claim you're a good orator, remember who there are people with good hearing capability.

You don't in any way give anyone this kind of a proposal. It's demeaning.
Read the bolded in the post.

NNEVERAGAINN:
why talk at her sister? Did anyone force her ex promiscuous girlfriend to sex around? You idiot and fools are quick to point peoples sisters and mothers. Why will my sister go sex around only to bring unwanted babies home🤮🙄

alizma:

I don't post for acceptance, I say what I think and believed should be said and that my view has brought mean to where I am today.

LandMann:


You sound stupid and narcissistic when you keep using this stale line of defense. Majority of everyone here is telling you that they disagree with your proposal and you keep coming up with useless reasons to justify your useless proposal.

If you do an analysis you'll see that majority of those responding are men like you. The difference between you and them is not that you're better off or a dual citizen or more educated... The difference is that they still have their compassion for humanity intact while you have lost your compassion having spent many years in a developed but cold and heartless country chasing money.

You're narcissistic and trying to take advantage of the woman in question. To know that your proposal is faulty, why didn't you find a Nigerian in the same country you reside in and make this same proposal to her? Because you will be rejected and even arrested for exploitation.

You're 35 yet you're still single. So, no girl in your miserable 35 years of existence found you worthy to settle down with?

Would you allow a man make same proposal to your daughter in future or will your heartlessness make u look away and claim it's her choice?

You're an unhappy man. That's what you get when you spend years in a cold heartless country where nobody cares about your black ass.

Unfortunately for you, in Nigeria, despite the multitude of problems we have, people still care for each other.

Nigerians are telling you that your proposal is heartless and narcissistic. Go back to your country of residence and make your ugly proposal to any girl you find there. They're heartless like you and they'll be more receptive of your inhuman proposal

beekind:
I am in my mid 30s, very comfortable and a dual citizen of Nigeria and a first world country.
I decided to relocate back to Nigeria because of starting a family and having my own children.
Since arriving the country and based on my experiences so far, my plans have changed.

I decided to first focus on having children as I found out that the Nigerian society has become almost worse than the west in terms of sexual debauchery.
People have sex for indomine, girls commit abortion without remorse, the worst thing is that no one here uses protection and by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.

Solution:
I had to go back to the drawing board and re-evaluated my plan, I have an ex-girlfriend (29 years old) whom I am very close with. She fits the bill in terms of who I want as a life partner but she is a single mother.
So I gave her a choice.

Have 2 children for me, those 2 children will automatically become dual citizens and I might consider marrying you and adopting your child but even if I don't marry you, your 2 children that you have by me will be taken care of and being dual citizens of a developed country they can turn to a blessing for you and your whole family in future.

Now, let me explain, I still love this lady and my decision was premised on how uncertain I am of what my choice will be in the future as such I wanted to be very open from the beginning, but even at this point, I can not guarantee I will marry her but I could depending on what happens in future.

She's going to give me a feedback later and I am quite positive she will take the offer.

If it were you faced with this option, what would you do ?

beekind:

I have never seen this kind of response in forums in the western world, part of the reason we are a third world country is that people are unable to articulate themselves objectively.
What is the point of this emotional rebuttal.

If someone gives my sister that option, its her choice not mine and I wouldn't feel anything since shes not being coerced, shes being given an option which she can choose to accept or reject.

As a matter of fact, it is better to meet someone who is honest from the get go about what he wants than to marry, abandon the lady and travel back abroad which a lot of Nigerian men do , they leave their wives here and refuse to sponsor her abroad.

So me putting all my cards on the table is a sign of integrity in case you do not realise that.

beekind:
by the time your average Nigerian girl reaches 30 years old, she has aborted 4 times, slept with almost 100 men and contacted several stds in the process.

What this means is that disciplined men like me are left with these category of girls, worst still is that they come very entitled and empty and can even ruin you with their lifestyle as they are usually impossible to reform.