Chetas81:
you guys almost comit suicide when trump called Nigeria shithole, you guys turn Nigeria to shithole, because of you the citizen with no modernization idea,chocroche citizen like you love to live in a country like heaven, but you failed to turn your country to heaven

Holluwhakemmy:
Yes

Donaldoni:
The only people that should japa in Nigeria are those not doing well at all and have no hope

If you are earning good 6 figures in Nigeria and you have job/career security, you have no business japaing

All my colleagues to who japaed are no way doing better than I am where they are. They can only brag when they start converting their earnings to naira

Hamachi:
My Auntie was NEVER going to leave Nigeria for anything, she later left for Canada after small pressure. The dad died and she fainted 5 times during the father's burial as a result of stress and heat. Immediately the father was buried she didn't spend 72hrs in a Nigeria. All the property the dad left for her she told them to sell as she's not interested in coming back.

SeriouslySense:
I dont like to do such things, never scammed anyone. But does not mean i dont have a bad trait, because that was what i knew in the Nigerian community.

They celebrate such things.

I prefer the ways of other communities, of trust, of order and decency.

casualobserver:

The point still stands. You don’t come on a thread chastising people for advising people not to go and then advise people to go. It’s hypocritical!!!

The things is most people giving advice have no experience of living abroad…..have you ever lived abroad that you are giving advice?

Goodnigga:
if u are talking about upper middle 6 figures, then u can open this discussion, but if it is below mid 6 figures. Go and relax. In Naija, as u know , the higher u make, the higher the expenses.

opicgif:
this is in response to this post that made front page today: https://www.nairaland.com/7834477/japa-fever-among-nigerian-youths


story 1:
i had an uncle who always complained about his job.
he worked in an oil company.
he told me to pursue my dreams (i used to be a music producer in the university) and how life is not all about making money
he complained he didn't have time for his family and how we wishes he could spend time with his children
he complained about how he's underpaid compared to expatriates
he complained so much, we (the family) actually had pity on him
long story short, we had an insider in the company (from our church) who told us,
my uncle was the person blocking my elder brother from getting a job in same company
he (the insider) was shocked we were related to him (my uncle)
he called our uncle in my fathers presence, who told him: do you want that small boy to overtake me in the family
my uncle didn't know the phone was on speaker!!!
this was 2008.


its easy for a beautiful girl with so many rich suitors to tell her 'not so fine' friends with only one suitor life is not about marriage
its easy for a rich person to tell a broke person life is not about money
its easy for someone in canada/US/europe to tell you in Nigeria the grass isn't greener abroad

someone who doesn't buy fuel for gen,
someone who doesn't sleep with multiple lecturers for marks in the university
someone who isn't slapped, abused and insulted in the hospital (like it happens in teaching hospitals in Nigeria)
SHOULD NOT TELL NIGERIANS ANYTHING ABOUT RELOCATING ABROAD

Una don come again
You light there is free people are freezing to death because they can’t afford to pay for hitter
Dey play .

YellowbaMoslem:
The only time i would take a Person preaching against japaa serious, is when he/she must have left that abroad and return to Nigeria.

If staying back in Nigeria is better like they always say, then why don't they come back?

For almost 10 months now, fear never gree me enter road say i dey travel interstate for inside this Nigeria.

Light i never see since 3 days, fuel still dey costly to run Generator and sustain my freezer.

Ordinary camry spider wey person dey drive, Police dey always wan harras me for nothing sake.

Is everything all about money making? How many years do we even have to spend in this life?

If you have not left abroad but stays there to discourage others, may God punish you.

You fear immigrants competition that's why you discourage others, tell yourself the truth.

But its not everybody that is coming there to become Dangote, they want a saner clime at high expense.. life is choice.

opicgif:
STORY 2
my neighbors son was robbed last month, august 2023,
he was fortunate to reach out to me, and others, and we were able to inform the police to go to his estate
this was around 1am

the police went to the estate,
arrested everybody in the estate,
in the middle of the night
accused the tenants of having an insider amongst there midst
threatened to shoot them all if they don't confess
beat them all mercilessly

we bailed him that night for 150k.
we bailed the person that called the police for help, for 150k
the others who couldn't pay slept in station for days

STORY 3
in 2019, i was robbed in my house,
my phone was stolen
i hid my drone and other valuables
the phone was worth about 60k
i went to the police station (kala police station, ikwerre road)
the police asked me for 100k to 'start investigations'
i was perplexed, and queried the reason behind this
the police threatened to 'deal with me' and arrest me for making 'false report'
a state commissioner came into the police station with some people he had arrested with his personal police security
all the police men left me to hail him, he dropped some money for them as well as the people he arrested
i ran out of the police station

STORY 4
the former governor of bayelsa state. alameseigha, a multi billionaire died in UPTH
because they had to drive him a very long distance to the hospital, if i remeber correctly, from bayelsa to rivers state
a billionaire!
for something that in 'the abroad', an ambulance would have been ready in minutes,
he drove for hours

STORY 5
when we had my 2nd child, she fell ill at 4days and we rushed her to UPTH Uniport
we stayed there for about 2 weeks at SCBU
i saw a man and his wife lose one of their twins, and a cleaner, not a doctor, not a nurse, a cleaner
came out and met the man with a list of things to buy fro the pharmacy and said
oga one pikin don die, go buy these things before the 2nd pikin die
i knelt down at the car park that night and cried to God that nothing should ever take me to any teaching hospital in Nigera

i saw mothers abused, cursed by doctors and nurses
these same doctors will travel abroad and behave completely differently

TongueTwista:


You claim it is not in your nature to scam, cheat or defraud people, but you comfortably come on an Internet platform to carpet your fellow Nigerians simply because you made "deductions" from "what you knew in your Nigerian community".

People like you propagate false narratives about Nigerians to other citizens just to sound politically correct and conform to societal expectations. To you, every Southern Nigerian has the propensity for fraud, apart from yourself.

Do you even realise how shallow you sound right now? If you work in an office dominated by other races and Nations, please don't embarrass yourself with this level of sycophancy. Nobody values a man who sells his brother for a morsel of porridge!

TongueTwista:
Texas has the highest concentration of Nigerians in the US, but when you get there and are fortunate enough to meet your fellow Nigerian at the mall or in the train station, he or she will avoid you like you're the very face of the Covid-19 pandemic. And this nonsense mostly exists between Southerners in the diaspora. You will hardly find an Aboki in Dallas or Chicago, ignoring or looking down on another Aboki. Na we just dey foolish dey go!

Very evil, stupid and self-centered lot!

Mosba:




God bless you my person, I have a friend who travelled to UK 5months ago, we used to rough things together back then, guess what? he sent 200,000k to me last week. To him he only sent about £200 and my account don full. In Nigeria of today, as a bloody civil servant who must have spent the salary finished and started borrowing to limp towards month end, that money brought great relief. Subsidy removed, no salary increment under what is democramilitary kind of government. By my calculation, government isn't even paying enough for only feeding for most staff and they expect you at work? If I get means, I will not only Japa but I will forbid my children from coming back to make a visit to Nigeria in future. Anyone saying don't join us in UK, Canada etc should be regarded for what he/she is, selfish dick

doggedfighter:
If only abroad people will just stay their abroad and leave us to decide what's good for us.


All these unsolicited advices make it look like Nigerians are living in a cave and don't know what's obtainable out there.


Stop advising us from abroad.


Enough !!

12inchess:
Make una come naaa. It's very easy over here in abroad. Just sell all your properties in Nigeria and leave your Deloitte Job where you've become a Manager. You don't even need to come through legal means. Just come on visiting visa. When you get here you can easily divorce your wife and marry oyinbo. Within like 1 year you will get your papers then start as Deloitte Manager again in Dallas, Or Houston. It's not that hard. Just come. There is job and money waiting for you.There is even credit system so you have access to funds to buy whatever you want. You can take a loan to buy a 2024 model car and be paying small small. Just come. Anybody telling you otherwise is an enemy of progress.

teepain:



The advice should go both ways though. I have read here on countless occasions how people who have no inkling about individual's circumstances goad people on to japa and I have seen occasions where people advised others against "japaing". Nigerians have always travelled and will continue to do so. Individuals must be allowed to determine what suits them. There is no one-size-fits-all prescription.

Even for those preaching Nigeria is a shit-hole and japa-if-you-can apostles, abroad is not meant for everyone. Some people will not blow abroad but they will back in Nigeria (eg Dbanj, Don Jazzy and others). On the other hand, some other people may find that the overseas environment is just what they need to succeed.

Everytime I travel and I am on a flight back to Nigeria and I see foreigners coming to Naija to come and prospect for businesses, I keep wondering what they see that many Nigerians are unable to see. After all said, individuals should evaluate their own circumstances and do what is best for them.

elonize:
maybe sm evil Nigerians dey mk dem dress back

Hamachi:
My Auntie was NEVER going to leave Nigeria for anything, she later left for Canada after small pressure. The dad died and she fainted 5 times during the father's burial as a result of stress and heat. Immediately the father was buried she didn't spend 72hrs in a Nigeria. All the property the dad left for her she told them to sell as she's not interested in coming back.

seniorgozman:
God bless the op for this write-up. Only people that truly care for you will give you the right advice. My sisters and cousins are living abroad, they have been advising us to relocate and we are now working on it

Hamachi:
If you have a good paying salary, wife and kids, don't leave all that only to travel to start afresh again. It will take you average 15-20yrs to get the level you are right now. You can go for holiday in any of those countries to see things for yourself.

If you were younger with no wife or job i will encourage you to go but you are settled already.

Truth is Nigeria is irredeemable. Forget what is portrayed by the media.

opicgif:
this is in response to this post that made front page today: https://www.nairaland.com/7834477/japa-fever-among-nigerian-youths


story 1:
i had an uncle who always complained about his job.
he worked in an oil company.
he told me to pursue my dreams (i used to be a music producer in the university) and how life is not all about making money
he complained he didn't have time for his family and how we wishes he could spend time with his children
he complained about how he's underpaid compared to expatriates
he complained so much, we (the family) actually had pity on him
long story short, we had an insider in the company (from our church) who told us,
my uncle was the person blocking my elder brother from getting a job in same company
he (the insider) was shocked we were related to him (my uncle)
he called our uncle in my fathers presence, who told him: do you want that small boy to overtake me in the family
my uncle didn't know the phone was on speaker!!!
this was 2008.


its easy for a beautiful girl with so many rich suitors to tell her 'not so fine' friends with only one suitor life is not about marriage
its easy for a rich person to tell a broke person life is not about money
its easy for someone in canada/US/europe to tell you in Nigeria the grass isn't greener abroad

someone who doesn't buy fuel for gen,
someone who doesn't sleep with multiple lecturers for marks in the university
someone who isn't slapped, abused and insulted in the hospital (like it happens in teaching hospitals in Nigeria)
SHOULD NOT TELL NIGERIANS ANYTHING ABOUT RELOCATING ABROAD

SeriouslySense:
experience is the best teacher.

Monaboo:
Most Nigerians abroad are the ones making it more difficult for Nigerians back home to come.

They engage in crime, carrying drugs which spoils the image of Nigeria.

To enter USA now na serious hurdle unlike in the 90's.

UAE banned Nigeria from entering their country.

Days back, some Nigerians were fighting Police in Parkinstan.

South African's hate Nigerians.

UK is using style to close their borders to Nigeria.

I now hear there is Visa Interview now for study visa to UK which was not so in the past.

The UK people are using style not to hire Nigerians. The Nigerians there are scamming those back home by telling them to pay for COS worth 10,000 Pounds.

Why don't u hear other Africans do such abroad? Why?

I regret being a Nigerian to be honest.

A Ghanian on a Japa Telegram group I belong recently spoke about this and I couldn't even talk becos my own people dey shame me.

U need to see how this lady is helping her fellow Ghanians move to UK with COS. E be like say the lady sabi all the employers for UK.

She would always say no Nigerian should chat her up for COS becos of their bad reputation.

Who did this to us?

We are here shouting it's difficult to Japa and I laugh.

Do u know that Recruitment Agencies in USA travel down to some African countries like Kenya to hire fresh graduates in some medical fields to come and work in USA (all expense paid)? Kenya is an African country oo.

Go to the Phillipines and see how these USA Recruitment Agencies travel down there to pack their Nurses like sand and bring them to the USA. Even fresh grads o.

Dem no born USA Recruitment Agencies make dem try come do that one for Nigerians.

Why? Bad Reputation of Nigerians over there.

We can all stay here and talk from now till evening but the reality still stares at us in the face.

In a group of 10 Africans and Asians applying for work visa in a country (4 Asians and 5 Africans). If the company says they want only 9 workers and 9 Africans and Asians apply for that job with Sponsorship and only 1 Nigeria makes it up to 10. Believe they will pick all the Asians first, followed by the other Africans and drop the only Nigerian.

Just have it at the back of your mind that if u by chance get opportunity to attend a foreign virtual interview for an foreign job in USA, Canada or UK together with a South African, a Kenyan, a Zambian, a Ghanian, a Cameroonian and a Malawain, a Zimbabwian, a Gambian, all of u with equal qualification and the role requires Zero experience.

Just know they will pick every other candidates on that table and drop only you the Nigerian.

That is your reality.

planetx:
Super story not interested in coming back indeed, the same property 99% of Nigerians living abroad are trying to build back in the same NIG. So when she is old she will tell them to dump her in a old people's home in Canada because she gave up all her father's properties in Nigeria.

Fab21:
Migration is part of our existence,
And this isn't the first time migration will be happening in Nigeria...
Even in the Bible, people migrate..


But oftentimes, we do complain and let me say we don't know the exact thing that we want.
We complain a much. The fact is no country will even give you 100% of what you want. It's impossible. 9ja no even reach 50%..

What exactly do you want ?
What are you looking for ?
Why do you want to Japa?
What's your motive for japaing?

But just like what happened to Naomi in the Bible, she left her present place because of famine in her land. Her husband died and she also lost her two sons but later came back home with one of her son's wife.

The fact still remains that, people travel for various reasons and however, you can't discourage them once they make up their mind especially when they're desperate.

The most important thing is to know the exact thing you want and why you want to Japa and not just following the Japa syndrome.

Honestly, there's suffering and hardship in Nigeria. If you're doing fine , thank God for your life and the privilege.

The numbers of unemployed graduates in the land are umpteen and keep on increasing. Many atrocities; debauchery, rituals, frauds killing to justify the state of the nation.

For graduates to learn reasonable skills, you'll still need money to do that.
It's so hard even as a graduate to breakthrough unless there's a strong Grace and God's favour upon your life in this nation.

If you're still struggling in this country especially as a graduate and you've the opportunity to travel out, pls do. As long as you going with the right motive, as long as you know why you're going.
Pls, do and work out your ass over there to save up.

But if you're already doing fine here, with some carer achievements, earning good salary , plus job security and other benefits, I don't think at this moment you really need it except you're going there for various reasons. You can be going there based on vacation and exploration.


But selling your houses, properties, closing down your businesses all in the name of Japa, I think it's better to think twice.


If I've the opportunity and the resources today, I'll Japa for the right motive.
I'm fed up and I already gave up on this nation.


For the God factor, it's important you pray for directions if truly your success is in japa.
Naomi in the bible regretted her move ...

TongueTwista:


Colombians, Brazilians and Mexicans have more scammers and drug runners than Nigeria, but you'll hardly open the news to find their citizens being put in the spotlight. Even when they're arrested, diplomatic relations are used to quietly extradite such persons so appropriate sanctions can be dished out.

But people like you, Buhari, Tinubu, Atiku Bagudu, Orji Uzor Kalu and a host of other short-sighted Nigerians make it look like the entire Nigerian country is a hub of scammers and characters with illicit intents.

You think Nigerians defraud people? Spend a year in China and you'll understand that almost every teenager with a smart phone is almost encouraged to engage in internet fraud schemes. Or let's even bring it back home to Africa. Do you know that nearly 60percent of the young Ghana population are into internet scams? Or do you want to travel to SA and Kenya?

But those countries hardly make the news for crimes because you Nigerians are so loud-mouthed and hateful towards your next Nigerian, so you feel your only way of showing patriotism and behavioural decency, is to use a vuvuzela to announce your kin and his flaws so he can be taken to the hangman's noose!

planetx:
To that one saying if he travels he will never come back again lol keep deceiving yourself, you will be back in Nigeria to visit once you get your papers only illegal Nigerians don't visit Nigeria. Just came back from the US through United from Washington and it was filled to the brim, same way Delta from Atlanta always filled to the brim. Nobody is saying don't japa but choose your japa destination wisely not every oyinbo country makes japa sense and make sure you invest in this country because take it from someone who shuttles between Yankee and Nigeria this country is a goldmine and life is actually easy and good in Nigeria if you got money.