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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Harvestock01(m): 12:51pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: In the event of a margin call, will the assets outside of the margin facility still be affected? For example if he owns a USD200 million property that was not used as a collateral? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:05pm On Jan 21 |
Harvestock01: The loan is based on the current value of his portfolio, although some financiers might need the personal guarantee of the investors. The problem is with over leveraged position of the trader. Imagine using your personal equity of N10 million to control a portfolio of N50 million by getting an additional loan of N40 million 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:07pm On Jan 21 |
Harvestock01: Very difficult for them to make a loss |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 1:13pm On Jan 21 |
rmx: You make a fair point. But without knowing all the details, it's difficult to say definitively. It's possible that a portion of his own capital, perhaps $20 billion, was required to be invested alongside the loans in order to access that level of financing. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 1:18pm On Jan 21 |
Harvestock01: Technically, from my research, assets not used as collateral should not be affected by a margin call, but the lender may still pursue lawsuits... 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:28pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: It can only happen if the investor gave his personal guarantee, in that case they can go for his other assets and Investments 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:36pm On Jan 21 |
emmanuelewumi: Most times when the total liabilities is more twice of the networth or net asset, it is very easy to go bankrupt. Investor A. Total liabilities is 1.25 times of the net asset or networth Investor. Total liabilities is 7 times of the net asset or networth 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by rmx: 1:38pm On Jan 21 |
emmanuelewumi: The Koko , you should have added that was doing very well initially , nah when the Tide comot him cloths , then the bank came for his unclothedness , I say a lot of times people don’t know banks or bankers till you owe them or default , you won’t see all those there fine fine marketers then 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 1:53pm On Jan 21 |
But wait o, 20 billi out of 100 billi, bank go just give you 80 billi do biz and u carry ur own billi go dey diversify for better property. Haba, na u dey mary bank manager daughter? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 2:37pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: Your total Asset is everything you have weather you have fully paid for it or not. Eg assuming one has a house worth N50 million, cars worth N20 million, jewelry worth N10 million, financial assets worth N10 million, land worth N10 million. His total asset his N100 million. Assuming he has outstanding mortgage of N30 million on his house, debt of N10 million on his car, outstanding debt of N3 million on his financial assets and yet to balance N2 million on the land he bought. His total liabilities is N45 million. That means his networth is N55 million. Meanwhile his total assets of N100 million is held by the bank. In his case the total liabilities is almost 0.9 times of networths. Provided his sources income is guaranteed he should not have a problem servicing his loan provided he is earning reasonable income 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by hayyawithme: 3:23pm On Jan 21 |
Yoast:.. Ote, no sabi TA naw |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 3:46pm On Jan 21 |
hmm
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 3:51pm On Jan 21 |
hayyawithme:Lol.The billionaires no get time for TA,that is if they even know what it means..They follow the money and political interest .If alhaji could sell fllour for #24 many moons ago even with bad results.I should believe TA that alhaji food will not sell above #100..Do you know how long I have waited for the cement to come to #200 TA na just man made graphics .It only becomes real if you could pull many to believe in it.Then they begin to take decisions with it in mind.After sometimes FA will neutralise its effect and reality will manifest again. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 3:59pm On Jan 21 |
emmanuelewumi: He did not have a diverse range of investments and was exposed to a lot of risk. The large amount of borrowing he did made the risk even bigger. It also made him extremely vulnerable if the market went down. But that is likely how he grew his wealth initially - it is not easy to make billions by playing it very safe. If u doubt am go get your own. Maybe he should have stopped taking large risks after becoming wealthy, but the desire to be the next Warren Buffett was very strong. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by edwardaigb: 4:43pm On Jan 21 |
Happy Sunday everyone. So many pages to read. Thank God for the Ogas here. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 4:56pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: You lose it big if you made it big via risky trading 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Harvestock01(m): 5:05pm On Jan 21 |
Agbalowomeri: Luck and Risk are co-equal in importance 😊 |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by MeezPat(f): 5:25pm On Jan 21 |
This is a bit wrong though for bonds....Your capital can fall or rise in relation to interest rates...If newer bonds are issued at higher yields, your capital falls if you demand an immediate sale, If issued at lesser yields than you bought, your capital increases.Investor is only immune if he waits till maturity of which, there are still inflationary pressures ositadima1: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibaby1985(f): 5:32pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: The BitterTruth is that he was grossly greedy |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:46pm On Jan 21 |
MeezPat: You can't compare the volatility of bonds with that of equities. Since the bond pays coupons twice in a year, you have the opportunity to buy more at a cheaper price and better yield |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 5:55pm On Jan 21 |
MeezPat: My sister, I was only trying to economize space and mention the most important parts. If I were to explain everything in full, posts would look more like final year thesis. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by LILBIMS: 5:58pm On Jan 21 |
Good evening , pls what’s the meaning of OS ? Streetinvestor2: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mfunkynation(m): 6:03pm On Jan 21 |
LILBIMS:OS - Outstanding Shares 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 6:04pm On Jan 21 |
LILBIMS: Outstanding Shares, all the outstanding shares of a stock that can lay claim on the profit after tax (PAT). Hence, earnings per share (EPS) is calculated as PAT divided by the number of outstanding shares (OS). 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ekkywolex(m): 8:35pm On Jan 21 |
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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Streetinvestor2: 8:54pm On Jan 21 |
chimex38:Time for conoil manipulation will soon start. I like when billionaires fight financially. It makes the ground green Watch out for conoil going forward |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibaby1985(f): 9:48pm On Jan 21 |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibaby1985(f): 9:54pm On Jan 21 |
emmanuelewumi: I wish they can play like the US stocks |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Harvestock01(m): 10:01pm On Jan 21 |
ekkywolex: Time to socialise the inefficiency |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Harvestock01(m): 10:01pm On Jan 21 |
chibaby1985: Extreme risk taking always ends in ruins 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chibaby1985(f): 10:09pm On Jan 21 |
Harvestock01: I like it very well... That's why I like cryptocurrency |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Melcapital: 10:18pm On Jan 21 |
ositadima1: Good question! Typical question of whether or not to sell a cash cow. Do I sell the cow I bought for $100 that now yields me $120 annually through milk now that a buyer offers $700? Or do I keep it till its milk production drops significantly, which may happen after making me 10X the cost price through milk production? 6 Likes 1 Share |
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