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Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 8:29pm On Mar 09, 2024
budaatum:
Descartes might have thought therefore he was, but I buda am, therefore I think, since I couldn't possibly be thinking if I wasn't in existence.

But don't be surprised, just answer the questions if you would. I'll ignore you otherwise.
Answer what questions?
Well, we don't know the nature of thinking just as we don't know the true nature of reality. We know people
who died and came back say they were thinking while dead. Also people possessed, dreaming, etc.
But even beyond that we can't even claim to be sure it is actually what we call "thinking" going on!
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 8:40pm On Mar 09, 2024
LordReed:
Dumdum nature doesn't take actions, it has no agency. Selection in there is metaphorically so dumbos like you can start to understand. Unfortunately it has the opposite effect.

Are you going to clarify what translation means or are you gonna keep playing ostrich?
Olodo
Na me coin the word Natural selection
Olodo
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by FRANCISTOWN: 9:53pm On Mar 09, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Einstein, Newton, Socrates, etc all said they knew nothing. They were right. Not only don’t humans know anything, they're incapable of knowing anything.

You are simply NOT even close to being qualified to even have anything close to opinion as to whether anything fits into the existence of what should be called a God!
Whatever Einstein, Newton or Socrates said about God was only good for their pocket.

Since God is supposed to be the God of the whole world. No one is more qualified than the other to talk about him.

This point above remains valid to people who have not gotten their brain twisted by religious and appeal to authority's foolishness.

Yeah! Some fools follow anything and anyone. I've been trying to avoid them. Let's both avoid them together.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by FRANCISTOWN: 10:08pm On Mar 09, 2024
PoliteActivist:
First of all you are LYING. You said clearly and severally that those are habits NOT traits transmitted genetically. I don't know why you lying about something you said severally and clearly!
Haha! What's doing this one?
Where have I denied that they aren't habits?
Do you even read to understand at all?

PoliteActivist:
Secondly, you are arguing nonsense again. You obviously didn't read my post where I said reaching repro age doesn't mean you'd reproduce.You have to be HEALTHIER enough, STRONGER enough, and "richer" enough to actually get a mate (competition) and be healthy enough to actually physically mate, and have enough healthy seeds to actually reproduce.
Bottom line: over millions of years those with unhealthy traits SHOULD die off, leaving only those who love "eating broccoli and going to the gym"!
People with unhealthy genes still get to reproductive stage i.e people with serious blood diseases and disorders still get to procreate and pass on those unhealthy genes to their offsprings, generation upon generation.
Therefore, you just spoke another nonsense.

Wait first, what exactly do you understand?

@The emboldened, you just showed this honourable forum that you are better off working at a cassava processing factory.
Academics isn't for you. Please consider fishing.

Seriously! I'd get a better intellectual advantage if I was having this debate with a 6 years old kid.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 12:35am On Mar 10, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Olodo
Na me coin the word Natural selection
Olodo
Bwahahahahaha! Dummy I will make sure I continual bitchslap your brain with knowledge. LoLz.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 1:17am On Mar 10, 2024
FRANCISTOWN:
Haha! What's doing this one?
Where have I denied that they aren't habits?
Do you even read to understand at all?


People with unhealthy genes still get to reproductive stage i.e people with serious blood diseases and disorders still get to procreate and pass on those unhealthy genes to their offsprings, generation upon generation.
Therefore, you just spoke another nonsense.

Wait first, what exactly do you understand?

@The emboldened, you just showed this honourable forum that you are better off working at a cassava processing factory.
Academics isn't for you. Please consider fishing.

Seriously! I'd get a better intellectual advantage if I was having this debate with a 6 years old kid.
See below where you implicitly denied it - do you see any mention that they are habits??

You are playing ignorant again.
You've already been told that reaching reproductive age does not guarantee reproduction (see diabetes example below) and eventually the bad trait should disappear
But even if you banned disseaed people from reproducing, diseases would be transmitted by carriers who have the genes without ever experiencing the disease, also by mutations.

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Aemmyjah(m): 3:51am On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Dummy I will make sure I continual bitchslap your brain with knowledge. LoLz.
Artificial selection is intentional while natural selection is not
What did you say that means again grin?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m):
Aemmyjah:
Artificial selection is intentional while natural selection is not
What did you say that means again grin?
It means that natural has no agency, it does not ACT like a person acts so selection there is metaphorical. Let that sink through your thick skull plates.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 7:28am On Mar 10, 2024
FRANCISTOWN:
Whatever Einstein, Newton or Socrates said about God was only good for their pocket.

Since God is supposed to be the God of the whole world. No one is more qualified than the other to talk about him.

This point above remains valid to people who have not gotten their brain twisted by religious and appeal to authority's foolishness.

Yeah! Some fools follow anything and anyone. I've been trying to avoid them. Let's both avoid them together.
Like I've said b4, since we here on earth basically don't know anything, we are NOT qualified to have opinion on God based on logic. We can only comment on God based on instinct or personal experience.
And like I've said, we all experience reality differently - just because you feel God doesn't exist for you doesn't mean he does not exist for another person!
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by FRANCISTOWN: 7:33am On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
See below where you implicitly denied it - do you see any mention that they are habits??

You are playing ignorant again.
You've already been told that reaching reproductive age does not guarantee reproduction (see diabetes example below) and eventually the bad trait should disappear
I wish I could see you right now and land you a knock on that your small head like a year old baby's fist.

Does not loving broccoli, watching TV, not drinking lots of water and eating tasty foods cause people to not be able to reproduce when they reach the reproductive stage?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 9:04am On Mar 10, 2024
FRANCISTOWN:
I wish I could see you right now and land you a knock on that your small head like a year old baby's fist.

Does not loving broccoli, watching TV, not drinking lots of water and eating tasty foods cause people to not be able to reproduce when they reach the reproductive stage?
You'd be on your back before you can say "habit" - I'm a black belt in Karate😎

That's exactly my point! (have you lost your mind!) - I've been saying just because an organism reaches reproductive age doesn't mean it automatically reproduces. While you and LordReed have been all about reproductive age!
You sure u ok?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 9:38am On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
You'd be on your back before you can say "habit" - I'm a black belt in Karate😎

That's exactly my point! (have you lost your mind!) - I've been saying just because an organism reaches reproductive age doesn't mean it automatically reproduces. While you and LordReed have been all about reproductive age!
You sure u ok?
Quote were I wrote reproductive age.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 9:55am On Mar 10, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Artificial selection is intentional while natural selection is not
What did you say that means again grin?
Lemme bitchslap your brain some more. Read the screenshot.

PoliteActivist this bitchslap is for you too.

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 11:06am On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
Quote were I wrote reproductive age.
Must be your wife that wrote this below

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 11:29am On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
Lemme bitchslap your brain some more. Read the screenshot.

PoliteActivist this bitchslap is for you too. Aemmyjah
My good buddy Reed, it is really a major wonder that you still have mouth to talk despite embarrassing yourself for so many pages on this thread. (See a sample below). Please, what exactly is the point of that your screenshot,?

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 11:32am On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
My good buddy Reed, it is really a major wonder that you still have mouth to talk despite embarrassing yourself for so many pages on this thread. (See a sample below). Please, what exactly is the point of that your screenshot,?
What is this one saying? Has my point changed?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 11:33am On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Must be your wife that wrote this below
Show me where I wrote reproductive AGE.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 11:34am On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
My good buddy Reed, it is really a major wonder that you still have mouth to talk despite embarrassing yourself for so many pages on this thread. (See a sample below). Please, what exactly is the point of that your screenshot,?
LoLz. Don't deflect. Natural Selection DOES NOT SELECT. See it in black and white and reset your bitchslapped brain.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 3:00pm On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
LoLz. Don't deflect. Natural Selection DOES NOT SELECT. See it in black and white and reset your bitchslapped brain.
Aemmyjah, please help me tell my good buddy Reed to stop continuation embarrassment of himself. Please let him know that "select" and "selected for" are long established language of natural selection that even elementary school biology students instinctively know what it means. It simply means over time traits that are beneficial to success of a specie predominate.
Even his own screenshot (see below) uses "select"!!

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 3:22pm On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
Show me where I wrote reproductive AGE.
What does the encircled embarrassing statement (below) mean to you?
Reed, honesty I don't think you are made for this type of discussion. It's as if you find it very difficult to get beyond the literal words to what is actually meant.

(Example: "long enough" in my statement below also implies "healthy enough and competitive enough" to reproduce)

Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 4:28pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
What does the encircled embarrassing statement (below) mean to you?
Reed, honesty I don't think you are made for this type of discussion. It's as if you find it very difficult to get beyond the literal words to what is actually meant.

(Example: "long enough" in my statement below also implies "healthy enough and competitive enough" to reproduce)
I clearly did NOT write age because I was referring to organisms broadly some of whose reproductive cycles are in hours.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 4:31pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Aemmyjah, please help me tell my good buddy Reed to stop continuation embarrassment of himself. Please let him know that "select" and "selected for" are long established language of natural selection that even elementary school biology students instinctively know what it means. It simply means over time traits that are beneficial to success of a specie predominate.
Even his own screenshot (see below) uses "select"!!
LMFAO! I swear you are fully stupid. You left where it CLEARLY states NO. TWICE. Only to focus on where again it uses select metaphorically and you want to talk to me about being stuck on literal words.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op): 5:14pm On Mar 10, 2024
LordReed:
I clearly did NOT write age because I was referring to organisms broadly some of whose reproductive cycles are in hours.
See exactly what I was saying? So age to you can't be in hours?? SMH
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 5:22pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
See exactly what I was saying? So age to you can't be in hours?? SMH
We don't generally talk about age for organisms that don't live up to a year.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op):
LordReed:
LMFAO! I swear you are fully stupid. You left where it CLEARLY states NO. TWICE. Only to focus on where again it uses select metaphorically and you want to talk to me about being stuck on literal words.
Reed you sure u ok? How can a thinking human being possibly be like this?? How can it be that of all things to discuss about natural selection your focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! Something that everyone instinctively knows! That's why I say you are a literalist. Read what Darwin said. That's why he used "it's as if"!
You sure u r all there Reed? I no get the way you reason o
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 6:03pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Reed you sure u ok? How can a thinking human being possibly be like this?? How can it be that of all things to discuss about natural selection your focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! - something that everyone instinctively knows. That's why I say you are a literalist. Read what Darwin said. That's why he used "it's as if"!
You sure u r all there Reed? I no get the way you reason o
Bwahahahahaha! Who are you trying to gaslight? Where did I say individuals don't select? I said nature doesn't select here you are saying my focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! You excel in stupidity I swear. LMFAO!

Meanwhile when I first said nature doesn't select you were shitting bricks but now that I bitchslapped your brain you are changing mouth that selection isn't literal. Bwahahahahaha!

Dude I will be here to deliver some more bitchslaps to your brain don't worry.
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 6:14pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Aemmyjah, please help me tell my good buddy Reed to stop continuation embarrassment of himself. Please let him know that "select" and "selected for" are long established language of natural selection that even elementary school biology students instinctively know what it means. It simply means over time traits that are beneficial to success of a specie predominate.
Even his own screenshot (see below) uses "select"!!
BTW you keep appealing to Aemmyjah that doesn't care a rats arse for Natural Selection nor does he even understand the concept. Are you just so incapable of divorcing yourself from making stupid appeals?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by FRANCISTOWN: 6:32pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
Like I've said b4, since we here on earth basically don't know anything, we are NOT qualified to have opinion on God based on logic. We can only comment on God based on instinct or personal experience.
And like I've said, we all experience reality differently - just because you feel God doesn't exist for you doesn't mean he does not exist for another person!
Once we can only understand God thru instinct. Then something is wrong with God. Such God who has something wronged with him is no God at all. Feel me?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by FRANCISTOWN: 6:37pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
You'd be on your back before you can say "habit" - I'm a black belt in Karate😎

That's exactly my point! (have you lost your mind!) - I've been saying just because an organism reaches reproductive age doesn't mean it automatically reproduces. While you and LordReed have been all about reproductive age!
You sure u ok?
I no know karate and I no know kungfu. But I get people in the armed forces plus I get plenty area boys. Before you knock me, them don bundle you put you inside drainage. Plus I sabi box die.

I already said you ain't cut out for academics. You should try fishing. Fishing is an enviable "profession".

I can't even deal with your emboldened. My initial battle is, does eating broccoli and not watching TV has any direct or indirect impact on the ability of humans to procreate, Yes/No?
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by PoliteActivist(op):
LordReed:
Bwahahahahaha! Who are you trying to gaslight? Where did I say individuals don't select? I said nature doesn't select here you are saying my focus is that no individual actually goes about selecting traits!! You excel in stupidity I swear. LMFAO!

Meanwhile when I first said nature doesn't select you were shitting bricks but now that I bitchslapped your brain you are changing mouth that selection isn't literal. Bwahahahahaha!

Dude I will be here to deliver some more bitchslaps to your brain don't worry.
I give up. I've tried. I don't know what sort of person this is. Folks please help me explain to my good buddy Reed that "natural selection" is NOT synonymous with "nature". Please help me explain to him that nature is a tangible thing while natural selection is a process that leads to certain traits being SELECTED! Please help me explain to him that his statement "natural selection doesn't select anything" is embarrassing even for an  elementary school biology student!

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Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by LordReed(m): 8:12pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
I give up. I've tried. I don't know what sort of person this is. Folks please help me explain to my good buddy Reed that "natural selection" is NOT synonymous with "nature". Please help me explain to him that nature is a tangible thing while natural selection is a process that leads to certain traits being SELECTED! Please help me explain to him that his statement "natural selection doesn't select anything" is embarrassing even for an  elementary school biology student!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! You have come again to display your stupidity. What is nature if not a conglomeration of all NATURAL processes and their outcomes? Is NATURAL Selection not a part of nature then? Look at this dummy trying to use semantics to gaslight their way out of admitting they goofed. LMFAO!
Re: Atheists Debate Religionists * by Image123(m): 8:19pm On Mar 10, 2024
PoliteActivist:
I give up. I've tried. I don't know what sort of person this is.
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