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43Ronin:
You are insulting black Americans but you ran away from your poverty infested country to a country were black people literally sacrificed their lives for you to be free even with an expired visit visa. If people like Martin Luther, malcomX, muhammed Ali, Marcus Garvey did not give their life for black freedom will you be in America today. Be grateful at least you are too cowardly to fight and die for your country to be better.

😂😂 Malcom X and Marcus Garvey ain’t African American. They are Carribeans 😂😂

Stop kissing their ass. The US would be better off without them.

jara:
This is the consequences of not teaching African History in schools. Even before dropping History in schools recently, the older Africans in Africa learn European and British history before African history was introduced in the 60s.

So we should not be surprised by the self denigrating arguments by African Youths against Africans and African Americans.

But note that the only place African Americans lag behind or stuck is in America. Once they cross the border either into Canada or Europe, you hardly find poor African Americans.

By the way African Americans do better in your backyard Nigeria where most Nigerians wallow in abject poverty.

Who cursed you or put you in Dark Continent for hundred years while they steal all your invections and discoveries as theirs?

Your argument is mute by the fact that most Americans abroad ain’t African Americans.

Multiple things can be true at the same time.

Truth #1: Nigerians in general are stupid with how they ALLOW their leaders treat them.

Truth #2: The Black americans who do not take advantage of the working infrastructure of their country, but instead spend it being lowlife scum, are stupid for wasting the very thing their ancestors paid for in blood and tears.

Truth #3: The black race is generally very stupid because we keep trying to blame other people instead of taking action.
White people took advantage of you? Of course! They were looking out for the interests of their people. Why weren't we looking out for ours? Instead we were busy hailing crooks, selling our people as slaves, and assassinating any fellow african who seemed like they would make a decent leader and lead us out of the rot we were in. We had many great leaders. WE killed them, not white people.

Global Truth #4: Black people will continue to have no respect globally until there is one fully black sovereign nation that isn't self-destructing and operating against its own self-interest as a nation. Self-interest is an attribute of self respect. If you do not respect yourself, why should other nations respect you?

Truth #5: It is far easier on the brain of a fool to blame others for all its woes, than to think and execute a plan on how to turn those woes around. Look at where china was a few decades ago. They put a plan in place, executed, and now they are unstoppable.

In summary, there have been more small-minded fools in the black race than there have been wise people. All we know how to do is to jump and shake body. Bring sense to the table as a nation and let's do something, No or somebody will sell out or scam everyone. We deserve all we have now. I generally feel like slapping black people whenever I hear them blaming white people for everything. They are not your gods. What part did you play in your situation?

Sladem05:
This has nothing to do with me viewing black people as vermin but a statement of the truth. It’s hard to see the light when it is covered by darkness.

Additionally, I have come to the realisation that it is even kind of pointless to talk about who built this country. A country is not statue. It’s constantly evolving everyday. Only thing that is constant in life is change. It doesn’t matter what people from centuries ago were doing. The US of the 1900s is unrecognisable to the US of today. The same way that the US of today will be unrecognisable of the US in a century’s time. Very little of what is in America today was built by levels. In fact,Whatever the slaves built in America was destroyed by the North in the Ciivl War. Slaves were overwhelmingly concentrated in the South. But the South was levelled by the end of the civil war and wasn’t rebuilt till after WW2.
What matters is the present and the future. History is history. We can’t change that.

And it is clear by what you even admitted that BA community is in disarray compared to other ethnic groups. They certainly aren’t the ones building the America of today or the America of the future. Whites built the America of the 19th and 20th century. But Asians and Latinos are building the US of 21st century and beyond.
Demographically, By 2060 as Whites are ageing and Blacks are aborting babies,killing eachother and so on. Asians and Latinos will account for around 30-40% of the US population.

They are a growing share of the US’s Construction and Labour Force.

https://www.ceacisp.org/news/construction-worker-demographics-us#:~:text=The%20average%20age%20of%20an,all%20construction%20workers%20are%20LGBT.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/race-and-ethnicity/2021/home.htm#:~:text=By%20race%2C%20Whites%20made%20most,less%20than%20half%20a%20percent.


https://www2.itif.org/2016-demographics-of-innovation.pdf

US patents by Race
White
, 76.7%
Asian
, 10.1%
Hispanic or Latino
, 7.3%
Unknown
, 4.5%
Black or African American
, 1.1%
American Indian and Alaska Native
, 0.3%

https://rickyyean.com/2019/03/13/the-future-is-asian-american/

Without Hispanic Labor or Asian ingenuity, America would collapse. They are the ones quite literally pushing America forward, building and maintaining the infrastructure, doing the jobs that other Americans don’t want to do.

It's so funny when i see my fellow Nigerians say this about Black Americans, it just shows the ignorance a lot of Nigerians hold.

Historically, lets start with when the U.S gained Independence in 1776; Chattel Slavery (1776-1864), a lot of rich white familes especially in the South are generational rich because of Slavery in the South. The revolutionary war was fought so hard by the confederates because they knew the monetary value of the slaves they kept. When Black Americans say the slaves were the Back bone of the U.S, especially the South, this is what they mean... It's just like how South African apartheid used Black people to mine Diamonds and other resources but the profits of it after being processed and sold never went back into the Black neighborhoods; the fact that the main originator of what made the White neighbourhoods of South Africa wealthy came from Black labour, means that Black South Africans were the actual Backbone of Apartheid South Africa.

Anyway, Post-Slavery: Segregation Era(Jim Crow) (1864-The 1960s), The "Equal" but different period. Black wall street... Almost all Jobs going to Whites... The KKK... The majority Black Lynchings... The all white racist Juries... Black people being relegated to attending very few schools that was always underfunded... The Tuskegee Experiment... The so much as standing up for yourself to a white person got you beaten by a Police officer, even if the White person was objectively in the wrong. And so much more.

Post Civil Rights Movement that Gave "Freedom" to All minorities who call themselves an American (1960s-Now). Redlining... Asians rushing from their dilapidated countries to the U.S in the 70s after they saw that the coast had been cleared by the Civil Rights Movement; why do i bring this up?, read about how Banks purposely gave those Asians loans in the "70s to start businesses in Black majority neighborhoods, but would refuse to give a Black American... Anyway, disproportionately funded Black districts.

When almost all corners has been disproportionately blocked from you from the start even up late-90s, you turn to the very few things that makes you think you can beat the system, which is usually Crime. We see in Nigeria everyday, and Nigeria is a f*cking almost entirely all Black society... I'm not making excuses for the disarray the Black American community is today, but to look at it from a very narrow lens , especially coming from an African, a Nigerian whose own country is in the state it is today, is one of the most ignorant things i've ever seen.

The reason you were able to leave our dilapidating country to the U.S and see a more equal world today there, is because of the struggles Black Americans went through. The fact that you ran away from the dilapitating Nigeria to seek greener pastures in a country with a more equal footing, while insulting the literal community whose fight has continuously pushed for that equal footing for minorities, makes you an hypocrite... You can't be boldly narrow-minded, insulting, and ignorant to another mans house while your own house is literally a dumbster.

Nigerians like you who make these all and mighty "We're better" comments about Black Americans really shock me; have you seen Nigeria?... If you really want to prove that Africans are better, leave the U.S that you're moosing off the equality that Black Americans fought for, and come and be one lf the people fixing Nigeria. No Nigerian has fought one fight for equality the level of which Black Americans did, and yet, you're being all high and mighty insulting them.

The Asians and Latinos you're saying are building the U.S, why didn't they rush to the U.S during the Jim Crow era, let them face the negativity of Minorities in that era... The very few who was there back then understand this too well; read about the deportation of Latinos in the 1930s... Most of the Asian and Latino population only came to the U.S after the Civil Rights Movement, why did they not rush to the country as minorities before it; same thing with Africans... You mooch off another person's century long struggles, and still have the guts to insult the person, especially when our own Country is as crap as it is; what kind of hypocritical high and mighty nonsense is that?.

It's so easy to talk negatively about other people, when you've not experienced what they've experienced... But i would think that of all groups, Nigerians will be the ones even more understanding than others, given all the rubbish that's going on in Africa; like the Ghana-EU cocoa issue that just came to light recently, were Ghana and Ivory-coast are literally making 80% of the world's cocoa, but only getting 6% of the profits.

Don't be whitewashed, broaden your view for once and think.

2buffagain:
Multiple things can be true at the same time.

Truth #1: Nigerians in general are stupid with how they ALLOW their leaders treat them.

Truth #2: The Black americans who do not take advantage of the working infrastructure of their country, but instead spend it being lowlife scum, are stupid for wasting the very thing their ancestors paid for in blood and tears.

Truth #3: The black race is generally very stupid because we keep trying to blame other people instead of taking action.
White people took advantage of you? Of course! They were looking out for the interests of their people. Why weren't we looking out for ours? Instead we were busy hailing crooks, selling our people as slaves, and assassinating any fellow african who seemed like they would make a decent leader and lead us out of the rot we were in. We had many great leaders. WE killed them, not white people.

Global Truth #4: Black people will continue to have no respect globally until there is one fully black sovereign nation that isn't self-destructing and operating against its own self-interest as a nation. Self-interest is an attribute of self respect. If you do not respect yourself, why should other nations respect you?

Truth #5: It is far easier on the brain of a fool to blame others for all its woes, than to think and execute a plan on how to turn those woes around. Look at where china was a few decades ago. They put a plan in place, executed, and now they are unstoppable.

In summary, there have been more small-minded fools in the black race than there have been wise people. All we know how to do is to jump and shake body. Bring sense to the table as a nation and let's do something, No or somebody will sell out or scam everyone. We deserve all we have now. I generally feel like slapping black people whenever I hear them blaming white people for everything. They are not your gods. What part did you play in your situation?

I swear, as a Nigerian, Nigerians are really extremely ignorant... I'm not making excuses for the dissarray of the Black American community, but for Nigerians here to undermine what they've done for minorities being able to live in the U.S in as equal footings as possible is just so stupid and ignorant; especially when our country is the way it is today. We run there, and then narrow-mindedly insult the group that majorly gave minorities as much as an equal footing as possible... Majority of the Asian and Latin population who call themselves Americans today rushed in after the Civil Rights Movement from their dilapidating countries after they saw that the coast had been cleared by the Black American community. Same thing with Africans.

It's not even just Black Americans, i once saw a Nigerian insulting Haiti; and i asked the individual, do you know what France did to Haiti for 100+ years after their Independence, he said no. And i then explained to him how Haiti was forced to pay yearly Reparations from their Economic revenue for freeing themselves from the French; and how this greatly helped improved the French economy that was in Shambles after Napoleon for more than 100 years, and crippled any chances of the Haitian economy leaving the ground for 100+ years. What this Nigerian said to me was "And so?"... Just imagine Nigeria being told to pay like 50% of our yearly Economic Revenue to Britain for the next 100+ years, we will completely die as a Nation; and yet, a Nigerian had the guts to ignorantly say "And so?"... We Black people are each other's biggest enemies, and a lot of it falls down to a lot of Black people's propensity to kiss the White Man's feet, and thus view history, our own terrible recent history, from the White man's lens.

Nigerians can't keep our country running, a lot of us rush to the U.S for greener pastures; we mooch off another person's century long struggles, and still have the guts to insult the person, especially when our own Country is as crap as it is... What kind of hypocritical high and mighty nonsense is that?.

It's so easy to talk negatively about other people, when we've not experienced what they've experienced... But i would think that of all groups, we will be the ones even more understanding than others, given all the rubbish that's going on in Africa; like the Ghana-EU cocoa issue that just came to light recently, were Ghana and Ivory-coast were literally making 80% of the world's cocoa, but only getting 6% of the profits.

Derekmiles:
It's so funny when i see my fellow Nigerians say this about Black Americans, it just shows the ignorance a lot of Nigerians hold.

Historically, lets start with when the U.S gained Independence in 1776; Chattel Slavery (1776-1864), a lot of rich white familes especially in the South are generational rich because of Slavery in the South. The revolutionary war was fought so hard by the confederates because they knew the monetary value of the slaves they kept. When Black Americans say the slaves were the Back bone of the U.S, especially the South, this is what they mean... It's just like how South African apartheid used Black people to mine Diamonds and other resources but the profits of it after being processed and sold never went back into the Black neighborhoods; the fact that the main originator of what made the White neighbourhoods of South Africa wealthy came from Black labour, means that Black South Africans were the actual Backbone of Apartheid South Africa.

Anyway, Post-Slavery: Segregation Era(Jim Crow) (1864-The 1960s), The "Equal" but different period. Black wall street... Almost all Jobs going to Whites... The KKK... The majority Black Lynchings... The all white racist Juries... Black people being relegated to attending very few schools that was always underfunded... The Tuskegee Experiment... The so much as standing up for yourself to a white person got you beaten by a Police officer, even if the White person was objectively in the wrong. And so much more.

Post Civil Rights Movement that Gave "Freedom" to All minorities who call themselves an American (1960s-Now). Redlining... Asians rushing from their dilapidated countries to the U.S in the 70s after they saw that the coast had been cleared by the Civil Rights Movement; why do i bring this up?, read about how Banks purposely gave those Asians loans in the "70s to start businesses in Black majority neighborhoods, but would refuse to give a Black American... Anyway, disproportionately funded Black districts.

When almost all corners has been disproportionately blocked from you from the start even up late-90s, you turn to the very few things that makes you think you can beat the system, which is usually Crime. We see in Nigeria everyday, and Nigeria is a f*cking almost entirely all Black society... I'm not making excuses for the disarray the Black American community is today, but to look at it from a very narrow lens , especially coming from an African, a Nigerian whose own country is in the state it is today, is one of the most ignorant things i've ever seen.

The reason you were able to leave our dilapidating country to the U.S and see a more equal world today there, is because of the struggles Black Americans went through. The fact that you ran away from the dilapitating Nigeria to seek greener pastures in a country with a more equal footing, while insulting the literal community whose fight has continuously pushed for that equal footing for minorities, makes you an hypocrite... You can't be boldly narrow-minded, insulting, and ignorant to another mans house while your own house is literally a dumbster.

Nigerians like you who make these all and mighty "We're better" comments about Black Americans really shock me; have you seen Nigeria?... If you really want to prove that Africans are better, leave the U.S that you're moosing off the equality that Black Americans fought for, and come and be one lf the people fixing Nigeria. No Nigerian has fought one fight for equality the level of which Black Americans did, and yet, you're being all high and mighty insulting them.

The Asians and Latinos you're saying are building the U.S, why didn't they rush to the U.S during the Jim Crow era, let them face the negativity of Minorities in that era... The very few who was there back then understand this too well; read about the deportation of Latinos in the 1930s... Most of the Asian and Latino population only came to the U.S after the Civil Rights Movement, why did they not rush to the country as minorities before it; same thing with Africans... You mooch off another person's century long struggles, and still have the guts to insult the person, especially when our own Country is as crap as it is; what kind of hypocritical high and mighty nonsense is that?.

It's so easy to talk negatively about other people, when you've not experienced what they've experienced... But i would think that of all groups, Nigerians will be the ones even more understanding than others, given all the rubbish that's going on in Africa; like the Ghana-EU cocoa issue that just came to light recently, were Ghana and Ivory-coast are literally making 80% of the world's cocoa, but only getting 6% of the profits.

Don't be whitewashed, broaden your view for once and think.

Asians and Latinos did play a big role in the civil rights movement.

Asians and Latinos did play important, though often underrecognized, roles in the U.S. civil rights movement. While the movement is primarily associated with the fight for Black Americans’ rights, other marginalized groups, including Asian and Latino Americans, were actively involved in advocating for civil rights and aligning their struggles with the broader movement for racial justice.

Latino Contributions to the Civil Rights Movement

1. Farm Workers’ Rights:
• César Chávez and Dolores Huerta led the United Farm Workers (UFW) movement, which was a landmark labor and civil rights effort in the 1960s. Their campaigns for better wages and working conditions for Latino farmworkers were inspired by and aligned with the broader civil rights movement.
• The UFW’s strikes and boycotts paralleled the nonviolent tactics used by Black civil rights activists.
2. Land and Education Rights:
• Activists like Reies López Tijerina fought for the restoration of land rights in New Mexico, linking Latino struggles to broader racial and economic justice movements.
• The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), founded in 1968, used legal strategies to challenge educational segregation, housing discrimination, and voting barriers for Latinos, mirroring the NAACP Legal Defense Fund’s work for Black Americans.
3. Chicano Movement:
• The Chicano movement of the 1960s and 1970s worked to combat discrimination against Mexican Americans in schools, the workplace, and the justice system, often in solidarity with the Black civil rights movement.

Asian Contributions to the Civil Rights Movement

1. Legal Challenges to Discrimination:
• Asian Americans challenged discriminatory laws long before the civil rights era, setting important legal precedents. For example:
• Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886): The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Chinese laundry owner, striking down racially discriminatory enforcement of laws.
• Fred Korematsu: His resistance to Japanese American internment during World War II became a landmark civil rights case, though it took decades for the courts to acknowledge the injustice.
2. Solidarity with Black Activists:
• Yuri Kochiyama, a Japanese American activist, worked closely with Black civil rights leaders, including Malcolm X, advocating for racial justice and equality for all marginalized groups.
• Asian American activists, inspired by the Black-led civil rights movement, organized protests and advocated for ethnic studies programs and immigrant rights.
3. Labor Movements:
• Filipino American farmworkers, led by figures like Larry Itliong, partnered with the United Farm Workers and played a key role in the Delano Grape Strike, a major labor rights campaign alongside César Chávez.

Shared Struggles and Alliances

1. School Desegregation:Both Asian and Latino communities fought against segregated schools. For instance:
• Mendez v. Westminster (1947): Mexican American parents successfully challenged school segregation in California, paving the way for Brown v. Board of Education.
2. Immigration Rights:
• The civil rights movement laid the groundwork for immigration reform, benefiting both Asian and Latino communities. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, influenced by the ethos of the civil rights era, abolished racially discriminatory quotas that had restricted Asian and Latino immigration.
3. Coalitions for Justice:
• Non-Black communities often joined marches and protests, such as the March on Washington (1963), where diverse groups, including Latinos and Asians, participated in advocating for equality and justice.

Why Their Roles Are Underrecognized

1. Focus on Black Civil Rights:
• The civil rights movement was predominantly focused on addressing the systemic oppression of Black Americans, making other groups’ contributions less visible in historical narratives.
2. Historical Erasure:
• Contributions by Asians and Latinos have often been overlooked in mainstream history, partly due to the relatively smaller population size of these groups at the time and systemic biases in recording history.



While Black Americans were at the forefront of the civil rights movement, Asians and Latinos played crucial roles in advancing the broader struggle for equality. They participated in landmark legal cases, organized labor movements, and formed alliances with Black activists.

I'm just gonna leave this here:

Edit: Pics aren't loading, but I also want to add

Africanisms in American Culture by Joseph E. Holloway et al.
Dark Alliance: The CIA, The Contras, and The Cr-ck Coc-ine Explosion by Gary Webb
Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent by Eduardo Galeano and Isabel Allende
American Neo-Colonialism: Its Emergence in the Philippines and Asia by William J. Pomeroy

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