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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 12:08pm On Oct 16, 2015
dalaman:
So heavens means space and earth means matter? huh I thought the bible said nothing should be added to it?
And the beginning means time lipsrsealed
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 1:31pm On Oct 16, 2015
frank317:
Ahhh stop this. You actually sound foolish. No wonder if pastor takes ur hard earned money and claim it is his prayer that makes u get money and not ur hard work yet u believe. How foolish can u get?

Someone explain science to u and tell u his view about science yet u choice to act like someone with block ears. Your ears only open when ur pastsor, a fellow man claims he is a man of this ur God and u follow him like mumu. You ear is only opened to foolishness but not to learning.
Abi u no go school?
Idiot, I never claimed Johnny believed that the universe came from nothing, I said I not sure wat he believes.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by frank317: 2:30pm On Oct 16, 2015
Richirich713:
Idiot, I never claimed Johnny believed that the universe came from nothing, I said I not sure wat he believes.
Ewu..... See this hell bound soul. Now u have incured the wrath of your loving sky daddy.... You better get on you knees wherever u are and ask for forgiveness.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 2:45pm On Oct 16, 2015
frank317:
Ewu..... See this hell bound soul. Now u have incured the wrath of your loving sky daddy.... You better get on you knees wherever u are and ask for forgiveness.
Actually u the one who is hell bound.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by johnydon22(m): 4:20pm On Oct 16, 2015
Richirich713:
Idiot, I never claimed Johnny believed that the universe came from nothing, I said I not sure wat he believes.
Hahahahahaha ok guys please stop the hell wishes, nobody deserves such barbaric construct in the first place.... None of you deserves it...its a relic of a barbaric past


Anyway i hope you now clearly know my stance on the origin of things as i am sure i tried much to make it clear on this thread?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by malvisguy212: 4:30pm On Oct 16, 2015
dalaman:
So heavens means space and earth means matter? huh I thought the bible said nothing should be added to it?
you are not making sense, what is heaven?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:38pm On Oct 16, 2015
@dalaman and hahn ... continue with the pretentious cowdung grin . Its funny how the primitives knew that for a being to Supreme he has to exist outside time - has always been existing - and you the modern man with the level of education now can't decipher what "in the beginning " means . Its obvious who they primitives are grin
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 4:47pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
@dalaman and hahn ... continue with the pretentious cowdung grin . Its funny how the primitives knew that for a being to Supreme he has to exist outside time - has always been existing - and you the modern man with the level of education now can't decipher what "in the beginning " means . Its obvious who they primitives are grin
Seconded.

You know I recently heard someone say something as he was teaching on practices of old civilizations and he said "we in this generation that think we are more civilized than they were might actually be the most uncivilized yet".
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 4:47pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
@dalaman and hahn ... continue with the pretentious cowdung grin . Its funny how the primitives knew that for a being to Supreme he has to exist outside time - has always been existing - and you the modern man with the level of education now can't decipher what "in the beginning " means . Its obvious who they primitives are grin
Bubu, how far na? It haf tey o grin

I see you have stilll failed to realise that primitives didn't know of a supreme being but rather sought to create one from their own primitive imaginations. Little wonder there are so many "gods" and every culture behind these ideologies have all claimed that their god is the true one. That someone like you in the 21st century continues to defend primitive constructs and a god that lacks the courtesy to relieve you of the embarrasment of having to speak on it's behalf is nothing less than pathetic.

I know you desperately want to be right, you do not want to conclude and admit that your parents are ignorant, that your pastor is a fraud and you do not want to admit that you are a mugu and you've been donating your hard earned money to a ponzi scheme desgined to keep simpletons in check by the elite.

It's ok Bubu, I understand grin
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 4:49pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
Seconded.

You know I recently heard someone say something as he was teaching on practices of old civilizations and he said "we in this generation that think we are more civilized than they were might actually be the most uncivilized yet".
And what exactly led you to agree with this assertion?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:52pm On Oct 16, 2015
@ johnydon22 Energy is eternal , therefore the universe is eternal shocked shocked shocked grin grin grin cheesy cheesy . embarassed lipsrsealed

Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 4:57pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
And what exactly led you to agree with this assertion?
For a fact that they believed that a higher intelligent being was responsible for creation and not fairy tale beliefs of mutating apes and trees to insects and men.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:03pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
Bubu, how far na? It haf tey o grin

I see you have stilll failed to realise that primitives didn't know of a supreme being but rather sought to create one from their own primitive imaginations. Little wonder there are so many "gods" and every culture behind these ideologies have all claimed that their god is the true one. That someone like you in the 21st century continues to defend primitive constructs and a god that lacks the courtesy to relieve you of the embarrasment of having to speak on it's behalf is nothing less than pathetic.

I know you desperately want to be right, you do not want to conclude and admit that your parents are ignorant, that your pastor is a fraud and you do not want to admit that you are a mugu and you've been donating your hard earned money to a ponzi scheme desgined to keep simpletons in check by the elite.

It's ok Bubu, I understand grin
Which elites use Religion to control ? Using religion to control who exactly ?

1. See how "people over there " are using Religion to oppress people and Russia just responded - if you know what I mean

2. See how the atheistic fat megalomaniacal NK leader is controlling his own people with lies , killings , they are living in fear and he keeps threatening world leaders .

Stop the weak unreasonable assumptions and atheists' propaganda ...

I forgive you for the ignorance wink
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 5:03pm On Oct 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
you are not making sense, what is heaven?
Heaven could mean anything from God's abode to means the expanse of the sky with every thing in it according to more recent translations. Heaven has never been translated to mean space any where in the bible. You know nothing about Hebrew so I won't listen to you. I'rather go with people whom Hebrew is their own.language and what they've said.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Nobody: 5:07pm On Oct 16, 2015
Clears throat grin Still choosing not to comment doh
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:10pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
For a fact that they believed that a higher intelligent being was responsible for creation and not fairy tale beliefs of mutating apes and trees to insects and men.
That came from the non - living . I've asked atheists if scientists have replicated abiogenesis in the labs , the response was just sad
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:10pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
For a fact that they believed that a higher intelligent being was responsible for creation and not fairy tale beliefs of mutating apes and trees to insects and men.
@ bolded, you still don't get it do you? The fact they "believed" doesn't make their belief a fact. The fact that different primitive men from different cultures ALL had different views on the same issue only proves them wrong and eventually asserts that it is only a figment of their imagination. If you really respect them that much then why have you chosen just ONE of these beliefs as the true one. Why haven't you chosen to believe ALL the stories?

The truth is, no one really knows how the world began. Scientists and theists alike. Everyone is only assuming and giving different postulations on what [I]could have[/i] actually happened. No one yet knows for sure and therefore it would be insane to conclude that just because you subscribe to a particular assumption it makes it right.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:10pm On Oct 16, 2015
I see someone mention Hebrew cool. Shall I involve myself?

I have always been in love with the beauty of that language.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:11pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
@ bolded, you still don't get it do you? The fact they "believed" doesn't make their belief a fact. The fact that different primitive men from different cultures ALL had different views on the same issue only proves them wrong and eventually asserts that it is only a figment of their imagination. If you really respect them that much then why have you chosen just ONE of these beliefs as the true one. Why haven't you chosen to believe ALL the stories?

The truth is, no one really knows how the world began. Scientists and theists alike. Everyone is only assuming and giving different postulations on what [I]could have[/i] actually happened. No one yet knows for sure and therefore it would be insane to conclude that just because you subscribe to a particular assumption it makes it right.
So what if I came to you and told you that God appeared to me and talked to me, what will you say? Because then it wouldn't be a postulation to me.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:15pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Which elites use Religion to control ? Using religion to control who exactly ?

1. See how "people over there " are using Religion to oppress people and Russia just responded - if you know what I mean

2. See how the atheistic fat megalomaniacal NK leader is controlling his own people with lies , killings , they are living in fear and he keeps threatening world leaders .

Stop the weak unreasonable assumptions and atheists' propaganda ...

I forgive you for the ignorance wink
Bubu!

Why did you fail to mention the sins of Christianity or have you forgotten how Christians came to Africa and enslaved our people thereby erasing over 1,000 years of our history? Or how we seem to have a large number of Christian politicians who are corrupt and have robbed our nation blind?

Christians, muslims, atheists, other religions are all humans and err irrespective of their beliefs.

Stop being a hypocrite
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:16pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
That came from the non - living . I've asked atheists if scientists have replicated abiogenesis in the labs , the response was just sad
Exactly, Darwin came up with the evolution theory before biologists really understood what DNA was and the process of natural selection which biologist say does not agree with his theory.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 5:17pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
@dalaman and hahn ... continue with the pretentious cowdung grin . Its funny how the primitives knew that for a being to Supreme he has to exist outside time - has always been existing - and you the modern man with the level of education now can't decipher what "in the beginning " means . Its obvious who they primitives are grin
In the beginning of what? You have not been able to show how anything exist outside the universe, you just keep repeating that silly assertion. The God of the bible does not live outside the universe. The bible never says that anywhere. The God of the bible lives inside the universe, he fights with human beings, he boast that he kills them alone without help, he intervenes in human activities, was scared humans will build a tower high enough to his abode so he changed the languages of humans etc. The God of the bible exist within the universe in fact he lived inside the earth most times. I just want you guys to explain to be the mechanism and process with which your God used language to create light from nothing.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:17pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
So what if I came to you and told you that God appeared to me and talked to me, what will you say? Because then it wouldn't be a postulation to me.
I'd simply ask you to describe the event. So, I'm listening....
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:19pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
I'd simply ask you to describe the event. So, I'm listening....
But many have done so on this site I have seen, but ended up being mocked. Which obviously does not show openness to knowledge.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 5:20pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
That came from the non - living . I've asked atheists if scientists have replicated abiogenesis in the labs , the response was just sad
What has abiogenesis got to do with atheism? Many atheist have never heard the word ever. Go and ask scientist about abiogenesis. Atheism is lack of belief in Gods. It has nothing to do with abiogenesis.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:21pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
Bubu!

Why did you fail to mention the sins of Christianity or have you forgotten how Christians came to Africa and enslaved our people thereby erasing over 1,000 years of our history? Or how we seem to have a large number of Christian politicians who are corrupt and have robbed our nation blind?

Christians, muslims, atheists, other religions are all humans and err irrespective of their beliefs.

Stop being a hypocrite
Diezani goes to church and if asked her Religion , trust me its Christianity . "Pastors" rape girls and some catholic priests molest boys . Because these people sanctimoniously pose as christians , that does not mean they do they are of Christ .

Did Jesus enslave anyone with his teachings ?

Hahn , how far na ... bro u dey fall my hand grin

Oya another chance for you
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:21pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
Exactly, Darwin came up with the evolution theory before biologists really understood what DNA was and the process of natural selection which biologist say does not agree with his theory.
Scientific theories are open to criticism and if proven to be incorrect will be promptly addressed as such. As opposed to religion that proclaims fairy tales to be truth.

One quick question, even though I know you theists are not capable of giving direct answers ill still try, if Mary was able to conceive Jesus as a virgin, how was she able to give birth to him since the hymen would have still been intact?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:24pm On Oct 16, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Diezani goes to church and if asked her Religion , trust me its Christianity . "Pastors" rape girls and some catholic priests molest boys . Because these people sanctimoniously pose as christians , that does not mean they do they are of Christ .

Did Jesus enslave anyone with his teachings ?

Hahn , how far na ... bro u dey fall my hand grin

Oya another chance for you
Lol, the muslims will ask the exact same question tongue

Besides, Jesus has not been proven to have even existed. The only evidence is the bible undecided
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Nobody: 5:24pm On Oct 16, 2015
Breaks silence
Well! well!! well!!!..does in support of religion really need to tighten up dere belts be it seat belts or trouser/skirt belts cause I see intellectual "crippleness" in d way deh approached d topic frm the on set
More "kuli kuli" to ur garri as you up your games guys
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by hahn(m): 5:25pm On Oct 16, 2015
Jeromejnr:
But many have done so on this site I have seen, but ended up being mocked. Which obviously does not show openness to knowledge.
Try me smiley

I'm a very good listener but you will have to also be ready for the questions I will ask you in order for me to get a clearer understanding of your experience. Deal? smiley
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:28pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
Scientific theories are open to criticism and if proven to be incorrect will be promptly addressed as such. As opposed to religion that proclaims fairy tales to be truth.

One quick question, even though I know you theists are not capable of giving direct answers ill still try, if Mary was able to conceive Jesus as a virgin, how was she able to give birth to him since the hymen would have still been intact?
For real? should that even be a medical wonder? Even medical professional never bothered to question the issue of the hymen.

Cm'on, you no there is no issue in that. You and I know men of old had different means in medical science.

But shall I also ask you a question. Since I believe you don't believe the bible to be the word of God.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(op): 5:34pm On Oct 16, 2015
hahn:
Try me smiley

I'm a very good listener but you will have to also be ready for the questions I will ask you in order for me to get a clearer understanding of your experience. Deal? smiley
It's just like me asking you to prove to me that you saw a Lamborghini yesterday. So what questions can you possibly ask concerning the supernatural?
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