Jeromejnr:
You know, It's actually more easier and intelligent to say that there was a designer to the universe than to say all this design came from an unintelligent matter.

Jeromejnr:
You know, It's actually more easier and intelligent to say that there was a designer to the universe than to say all this design came from an unintelligent matter.

Jeromejnr:
You know, It's actually more easier and intelligent to say that there was a designer to the universe than to say all this design came from an unintelligent matter.

Teempakguy:
not without facts. without proof. and standard of proof is highly subjective. scientific theories are not lies because they can be easily proven by recreating the conditions they describe. so don't bring them into this discussion at all.
everything contained in your science textbook can be proven in front of everybody that they are correct withing their confines. we know nothing can go faster than light. not because Einstein said it, but because it works out mathematically, and physically. the fastest thing in the world IS electromagnetic radiation.

now, i cannot prove there is no God. i also cannot prove there is. the proof of his existence is not falsifiable. so how do you expect me to believe you are saying the truth? there was a time when the whole world believed in Zeus. such people persecuted Socrates and the likes as you are persecuting me now. fast forward to 2015. who are the idiots now?

Teempakguy:
and how do you know matter is unintelligent?
the universe is not as unintelligent as you claim. it operates under laws that guide it. and with these laws, it produces the fascinating things we see today. stars exist because of gravity and electromagnetic forces.
they may seem like some being made them, but . . . not really.
besides, what you think is fascinating . . . really might not be. your senses evolved to see them as such.

Kreysik:

Imagine a painting without a painter
the sky is an example. also, the desert. ever heard of something called pareidolia?
Imagine intelligence emanating from non-intelligence
a computer processor and an AI software.
Like expecting a 6month old to ride a car
a six month old is not tall enough to do so. but six month olds have been known to speak.

Teempakguy:
and how do you know matter is unintelligent?
the universe is not as unintelligent as you claim. it operates under laws that guide it. and with these laws, it produces the fascinating things we see today. stars exist because of gravity and electromagnetic forces.
they may seem like some being made them, but . . . not really.
besides, what you think is fascinating . . . really might not be. your senses evolved to see them as such.

Kreysik:

Who or what is the cause of those laws?
Its a simple fact that for every effect there exists a cause

Teempakguy:
for every effect, there exists a cause. what if the laws are the cause? not the effect?

Jeromejnr:


Am I infact persecuting you?

The same way you could prove the speed of light both using mathematics and Physical methods is the same way you could prove from the various complex designs in the universe that there had to be a designer behind it.

There are complex codes programmed in genes. If i showed you a computer program today and say all that coding came by chance how would you react?

Kreysik:

Likewise..what if God was d cause and not the effect...dats what is referred to as d prime mover
Mind you:there cannot exist a LAW so to speak without a LAW maker

Teempakguy:
yeah right. nice try. i can prove the laws exist, but you cannot prove that God exists. so . . . get over it.

Jeromejnr:


I love that. It's the kind of scenario I gave Johny. How do we know what we consider imperfection is actually not perfect in the "mind" of the universe.

But then, we would be going into the concept of "self awareness" "choice" "will" "grief" "love" "sorrow" e.t.c. How intelligent is the universe in bringing about such concepts?

KingEbukasBlog:


What objective perception do you need . I know He created everything - the contents of the universe - if you disagree its your business . Millions of people have experienced miracles and witnessed His presence , yet you say they are lies . When you experience the power of God , isn't it convincing enough ?

Have you shown me He does not exist ? No

Have you proven that life came from the non - living ? No

Have you explained the disparity between the nature of the elements of life ? No

Have you proven that the contents of the universe came forth on their own will , then for no reason brought forth you as a thinking reasoning being ? No

Have you shown why the universe needs no creator ? No

Yes God exits , you can wait for Science to explain what happened billions of years ago . As far as no human being at this present time witnessed the beginning , you'll only see theories and more theories , assumptions and more assumptions till you die . Until Christ comes , trust me this will continue .

Kreysik:

Can you proof d God doesn't exist pls?

Teempakguy:
i'm not the one claiming he does.
it is you that thinks he exists. so it is you that is supposed to prove to me whether he exists or not. what you're doing is akin to me saying Taylor swift is right beside me now, and then asking you to prove that she is not beside me.

can you do that?

Kreysik:

Well islam rejects this fact..what is your pick nw?

dalaman:


You don't know, you believe. You don't know what created the universe and when you only believe some God idea some men created did it. You don't know if many entities created the universe, you just believe that a single entity did because you have been indoctrinated with that idea. Millions of Hindus, Muslims, Taoist etc have also experienced miracles and witnessed the presence of their various Gods, it means nothing, religious experience has been shown to be the product of the brain.

Your God exist but in your imaginations and that of those that subscribe to that idea.

Life coming from living or non living things has nothing to do with the existence of a God. God should have clear evidence for his existence. Why should the existence of other things be used as evidence for the existence of God? Have you ever asked your self that question? Why is God the only thing which we use the existence of other things to point out as his existence?

You are just using God as your position for "I do not know". If God exist then point to it as an independent entity. What we see around is evidence for the environment and not evidence for God. Does your God exist? If e does show it already.

God exist as a dead Jewish man that died over 200 years ago that will come again? This has nothing to do with reality but just a statement of belief. There is a great difference btw belief and reality. You believe in the story told about some dead Jewish man who lived 200 years ago coming from the clouds but you still confidently regurgitate it as if it has anything to do with reality.

Kreysik:

Hey bro! U also claimed HE doesn't exist so I'm also putting it to u to proof his non existence...dat you can't proof sometins existence doesn't mean it exists not what makes it non existence is ur ability to proof dat it does not exist

KingEbukasBlog:


Have you ever wondered why people still smoke - having the fledged knowledge of the health risks ?

Apply that same reasoning here

Jeromejnr:


Do you agree on the historical accounts of Jesus I gave you first of all?

Jeromejnr:
You know, It's actually more easier and intelligent to say that there was a designer to the universe than to say all this design came from an unintelligent matter.

KingEbukasBlog:


Coming from the clouds ? Does He stay there . You are filled with so much misconceptions and ignorance of biblical events/views etc .

You were obviously muslim before please find muslims and argue with them

Teempakguy:
God doesn't exist because i have no proof of him, and neither do you. isn't that enough?

i should not even be answering your question at all. because YOU, are the one who is trying to convince me that God exist. YOU, should provide proof.
in fact it isn't really you sef. GOD, is the one trying to convince humanity that he exists. HE, should provide the proof.

since he has not done that,

#atheistforlife.

Teempakguy:
yes! you're right! that code came by chance!
with trial and error, serendipity, discoveries . . . all those things contributed to the code you showed me. you see, the only reason why that code exists is because people have been experimenting with OTHER codes. getting better and better with them. so that code could be produced. so there is that.

here is another mind blowing fact. if i take the twenty six letters of the alphabet, plus several other characters, by combining it randomly, i will eventually arrive at that code. simple probability.

Kreysik:

Having no proof of something shouldn't be a resort for disbelieving in its existence and doesn't make you an athiest it only makes you an ignotist
Just like dere exist mysteries within the human dat even science has not discovered and has no proof of.yet deh have no ryt what-so-ever to abscond and neglect it and say deh dnt believe such mysteries exists rather they say "WE DNT KNW" and we gon make more findings

KingEbukasBlog:


You are not making any sense .

hahn:


Do you have any proof of this aside fr the bible? Any historical document that can be proven to be genuine?

dalaman:


It's written in the bible.

"AND THE STARS WILL BE FALLING from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. "Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN CLOUDS with great power and glory" Mark 13: 25-26

dalaman:


God exist as a dead Jewish man that died over 200 years ago that will come again? This has nothing to do with reality but just a statement of belief. There is a great difference btw belief and reality. You believe in the story told about some dead Jewish man who lived 200 years ago coming from the clouds but you still confidently regurgitate it as if it has anything to do with reality.

hahn:


According to the article, the accounts of authors are still under discussion. Even the article asserts that they might be false.

So, back to your story. And I asked first

Teempakguy:
riigght . . . as if you are making anything at all.
google library of babel. it contains a software that combines the 26 letters and comma and period together randomly forever.

if you don't find your name, your father's name, and your date of birth and death, call me a bastard.

Teempakguy:
riigght . . . as if you are making anything at all.
google library of babel. it contains a software that combines the 26 letters and comma and period together randomly forever.

if you don't find your name, your father's name, and your date of birth and death, call me a bastard.