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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 9:55am On Oct 17, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Its clearly their opinion . Like the narration of Christ's second coming , everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that . If you say its figurative , its fine with me ,if you insists its not , fine with me . All we Christians know is that Christ is coming again ... Amen

It is always every body's opinion, you also gave yours, you did not go into details because if you had it would have been different from the opinion of the other two. Why should any body believe you when you can't even agree among yourselves on what your scripture says? Everything about the bible you talk about is not what the bible says but what you think the bible is supposed to say. You guys are just a bunch of comedians. Jesus is coming only in your imaginations, Paul also thought Jesus was coming during his life time.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 10:04am On Oct 17, 2015
Richirich713:


1st u wrong to assume that the having the holy spirit makes us prophets, receiving the spirit does not make men prophets.

I thought the holy spirit is supposed to guide you and teach you the word? Why then are you saying different things? The holy spirit like any other thing in christianity exist only in your heads. Two of you can not even come to the same conclusion about a single verse, look at what is happening in christianity today and tell me if there really is a holy spirit that exist in reality that teaches christians anything. People just keep interpreting things according to their own understanding and opinions.

2ndly u stubborn about the verse as u only take one understanding of the phase "before the Son of Man comes", and ignore the rest.

3rd Jeromejnr gave u a list of possible options . Yet again u stubborn to consider them.


If the bible which you believe is that word of God that will lead to something as important as eternal life or save people from eternal damnation is not clear and needs so much different possible options then why should any one accept it. This is obviously a joke.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(m): 10:05am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


It is always every body's opinion, you also gave yours, you did not go into details because if you had it would have been different from the opinion of the other two. Why should any body believe you when you can't even agree among yourselves on what your scripture says? Everything about the bible you talk about is not what the bible says but what you think the bible is supposed to say. You guys are just a bunch of comedians. Jesus is coming only in your imaginations, Paul also thought Jesus was coming during his life time.


You using the scriptures of Jesus coming does not mean anything.

It has been clearly said time and time again by the same people that no one knows. Some people also in this generation believe He is coming in their lifetime which may not happen. But it still doesn't change anything.

In fact most of the scriptures regarding His coming are mysteries. As we see in the book of Revelations. God is the only one that can unfold the mystery if He wants to.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:18am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


It is always every body's opinion, you also gave yours, you did not go into details because if you had it would have been different from the opinion of the other two. Why should any body believe you when you can't even agree among yourselves on what your scripture says? Everything about the bible you talk about is not what the bible says but what you think the bible is supposed to say. You guys are just a bunch of comedians. Jesus is coming only in your imaginations, Paul also thought Jesus was coming during his life time.


Everyone should be on alert as regards to the coming of Christ . Paul thought it was in his lifetime . Other top christian evangelists of the 1700s and 1800s thought it could happen in theirs .

Its all about alertness and being prepared

1 Thessalonians 5:2-4


2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 10:29am On Oct 17, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Everyone should be on alert as regards to the coming of Christ . Paul thought it was in his lifetime . Other top christian evangelists of the 1700s and 1800s thought it could happen in theirs .

Its all about alertness and being prepared

1 Thessalonians 5:2-4


2 For you yourselves are fully aware that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night.

3 While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you are not in darkness, brothers, for that day to surprise you like a thief.



Sure, Jesus will return in only in your imaginations. The ancient Greeks all said the same and used the same language you guys are using now.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 10:30am On Oct 17, 2015
Jeromejnr:


You using the scriptures of Jesus coming does not mean anything.

It has been clearly said time and time again by the same people that no one knows. Some people also in this generation believe He is coming in their lifetime which may not happen. But it still doesn't change anything.

In fact most of the scriptures regarding His coming are mysteries. As we see in the book of Revelations. God is the only one that can unfold the mystery if He wants to.

It is just fictitious, it will never happen. That is the reality of the matter.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(m): 10:33am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


It is just fictitious, it will never happen. That is the reality of the matter.

You sure about that? 100% sure?

Remember for you to conclude on a matter you have to posses absolute facts.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:39am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


Sure, Jesus will return in only in your imaginations. The ancient Greeks all said the same and used the same language you guys are using now.

I knew that passage of the scripture knocked up off balance but anyways ,who art thou to withstand the unrivaled power of truth .


Begone atheist and continue wallowing in denial of your creator , for He has given you a depraved mind because ye have failed to acknowledge Him as God - your creator .

Romans 1:28

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not fitting
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 10:46am On Oct 17, 2015
Jeromejnr:


You sure about that? 100% sure?

Remember for you to conclude on a matter you have to posses absolute facts.


The after life is a human creation. Go to Egypt and see the pyramids and underground valley chambers they build for their Kings over 5000 years ago because of their belief in the after life. These Pyramids were built before your religion even came into existence. The Hindus created their own idea of reincarnation, the after life is a human concept which was created because of humans mortality, humans believed life was too short and will want to live longer and forever. The after life is a man made concept that is why there are differt forms and types of the afterlife.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 10:50am On Oct 17, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


I knew that passage of the scripture knocked up off balance but anyways ,who art thou to withstand the unrivaled power of truth .


Begone atheist and continue wallowing in denial of your creator , for He has given you a depraved mind because ye have failed to acknowledge Him as God - your creator .

Romans 1:28

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not fitting

Have you ever been knocked off balance by a muslims when he reads to you the truth of the Koran which says you will rot in hell for your unbelief in Allah's divine truth? The way you never blink an eye when a muslims threatens you with hell is the same way that I can never blink and eye when you threaten me with your imaginary punishment or life after death. You just happen to be indoctrinated with one of the God ideas, if you were born in India and living there you would be a Hindu now and will be telling us about the truth of Hinduism.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 10:54am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


I thought the holy spirit is supposed to guide you and teach you the word? Why then are you saying different things? The holy spirit like any other thing in christianity exist only in your heads. Two of you can not even come to the same conclusion about a single verse, look at what is happening in christianity today and tell me if there really is a holy spirit that exist in reality that teaches christians anything. People just keep interpreting things according to their own understanding and opinions.




If the bible which you believe is that word of God that will lead to something as important as eternal life or save people from eternal damnation is not clear and needs so much different possible options then why should any one accept it. This is obviously a joke.

Wrong again the holy spirit does not make us perfect. It gives each person a different gift, and only few people have had the gift of interpreting scripture, namely prophets.

It guides us, Not controls us, we still have freewill.

2ndly We are just refuting ur interpretation of jesus, and hw u try to use ur misinterpretation against the bible.

3rd jesus told his followers he will come unexpectedly, so ur hole interpretation is flawed just like the Jews who misinterpreted his words.

And again the bible is not wat gives us eternal life, it's God himself who does that.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:59am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


Have you ever been knocked off balance by a muslims when he reads to you the truth of the Koran which says you will rot in hell for your unbelief in Allah's divine truth? The way you never blink an eye when a muslims threatens you with hell is the same way that I can never blink and eye when you threaten me with your imaginary punishment or life after death. You just happen to be indoctrinated with one of the God ideas, if you were born in India and living there you would be a Hindu now and will be telling us about the truth of Hinduism.

A good pastor will tell you that since you are privileged to be a christian , obviously by birth , preach the gospel and tell the unbelievers of the truth

Mark 16:15-16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Like I always say though you keep being pretentious about understanding it : Different religions give the false impression of different Supreme Beings and Hells

Good day Dalaman
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman: 11:06am On Oct 17, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


A good pastor will tell you that since you are privileged to be a christian , obviously by birth , preach the gospel and tell the unbelievers of the truth

Mark 16:15-16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Like I always say though you keep being pretentious about understanding it : Different religions give the false impression of different Supreme Beings and Hells

Good day Dalaman

A good Imam will tell a muslim that since he is privileged to be a muslim by birth and know of Allah's final truth and revelation, he should preach the final truth to unbelievers like you that have been decieved by shaitan to accept the wrong religion. You believe in the false supreme being, accept Allah and his last messenger or be damned in the everlasting fire. Good day.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(m): 11:18am On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman:


A good Imam will tell a muslim that since he is privileged to be a muslim by birth and know of Allah's final truth and revelation, he should preach the final truth to unbelievers like you that have been decieved by shaitan to accept the wrong religion. You believe in the false supreme being, accept Allah and his last messenger or be damned in the everlasting fire. Good day.

Yea! But Islam and Christianity actually came from the same root.

In which God had blessed both of them. But said only one will lead to the way.

That is why they are the two greatest religions on earth today.

You should be able to see some truth in that.

Good day too.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by frank317: 1:51pm On Oct 17, 2015
Jeromejnr:


Yea! But Islam and Christianity actually came from the same root.

In which God had blessed both of them. But said only one will lead to the way.

That is why they are the two greatest religions on earth today.

You should be able to see some truth in that.

Good day too.

Lol... God bless both of them and said only one will lead the way. This your God must be a confused being. Do you guys even take ur time to read what you write? Is your God a mad man? What's he doing Blessin the two religion yet wants only one to lead. Who does he expect to take him seriously.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by frank317: 1:54pm On Oct 17, 2015
Richirich713:


Wrong again the holy spirit does not make us perfect. It gives each person a different gift, and only few people have had the gift of interpreting scripture, namely prophets.

It guides us, Not controls us, we still have freewill.

2ndly We are just refuting ur interpretation of jesus, and hw u try to use ur misinterpretation against the bible.

3rd jesus told his followers he will come unexpectedly, so ur hole interpretation is flawed just like the Jews who misinterpreted his words.

And again the bible is not wat gives us eternal life, it's God himself who does that.

So only a few people have the gift of interpreting the scriptures and they are prophets? Lol... Again do you guys even reason at all? Do even know the implication if what u wrote?
So how do we know who has the gift since everyone (including u, Jerome and Ebuka) are now scripture interpreters? Do you have the gift now? Are u a prophet? If you are not are you saying we shouldn't take you serious when u attempt to interpret the scripture on this forum?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 2:18pm On Oct 17, 2015
frank317:


So only a few people have the gift of interpreting the scriptures and they are prophets? Lol... Again do you guys even reason at all? Do even know the implication if what u wrote?
So how do we know who has the gift since everyone (including u, Jerome and Ebuka) are now scripture interpreters? Do you have the gift now? Are u a prophet? If you are not are you saying we shouldn't take you serious when u attempt to interpret the scripture on this forum?

U should actually be laughing at urself.

Nowhere did I say I'm a prophet or any else today is.

And again u wrong, just cuz I'm not a prophet doesn't mean I can't interpret the bible accurately, it just means my words can't be taken as facts but are open to opinion.

My words can only be considered accurate if the bible agrees with me completely, for example I believe jesus Is the Messiah of Isaiah 53 due to the fact the NT says so.

But the Jews disagree cuz they don't believe the NT was written by prophets.

Therefore ur whole argument again falls cuz the bible again says jesus will come unexpectedly, thereby showing ur friend interpretation is wrong cuz it disagrees with the bible.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 2:31pm On Oct 17, 2015
frank317:


If you are not are you saying we shouldn't take you serious when u attempt to interpret the scripture on this forum?

No I'm using the bible to expose how wrong ur interpretations are.

Just cuz I'm not perfect doesn't mean I can't interpret scripture accurately, it only means I can be wrong.

U don't have perfect knowledge in science, as a matter of fact u don't have perfect knowledge of anything ( such as maths,science, women) .

Does that mean I shouldn't take anything u say serious? Does that mean anything u say is inaccurate?

Lol stop with ur weak and desperate arguments against the bible.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Jeromejnr(m): 2:36pm On Oct 17, 2015
frank317:


Lol... God bless both of them and said only one will lead the way. This your God must be a confused being. Do you guys even take ur time to read what you write? Is your God a mad man? What's he doing Blessin the two religion yet wants only one to lead. Who does he expect to take him seriously.

Dude you need to be smart.

And I hope its yourself you are lol'ing at.

God had blessed someone before he had children and said his seed that comes from his loins shall be blessed.

Abraham goes out of the way and procreates out of the plan of God and has a son. God blesses the son because "He says of Himself that His gift and callings are without repentance"

But still tells Abraham that the Messiah will not come from that sons lineage but the next on he has. And it happened exactly.

You guys are actually really blind. All you need to to is sit down and think with your so called brain for once. How is it that the two sons that happened to be blessed by God in the bible happen to be the two greatest religions in the world right now?

And note, in the prophesy of the first son, God says "He shall be a wild man". Well, how do we see Islam today? Which is the wildest religion on earth today?

Don't be blind, sit down and actually reason for once.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 2:44pm On Oct 17, 2015
What do u atheists think will happen after u die?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by frank317: 3:49pm On Oct 17, 2015
Richirich713:
What do u atheists think will happen after u die?

We will go back to where ever we were before we were born.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 3:56pm On Oct 17, 2015
frank317:


We will go back to where ever we were before we were born.

So there is something after this
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman2: 4:30pm On Oct 17, 2015
Richirich713:
What do u atheists think will happen after u die?

We don't think anything will happen when you die. Life ceases when you die. Any other thing people say is an assumption.
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 4:56pm On Oct 17, 2015
dalaman2:


We don't think anything will happen when you die. Life ceases when you die. Any other thing people say is an assumption.

Isn't wat u saying an assumption.

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by dalaman2: 5:20pm On Oct 17, 2015
Richirich713:


Isn't wat u saying an assumption.

Can you demonstrate to me how consciousness can exist once the brain is dead?
Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by Richirich713: 8:55am On Dec 08, 2016
grin "Atheism is so senseless" - Isaac Newton

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Re: The True Definition Of Athiesm by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:25am On Dec 08, 2016
Richirich713:
grin "Atheism is so senseless" - Isaac Newton

grin grin

Meme on point

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