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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by ichommy(m): 10:46am On Nov 01, 2015
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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 10:47am On Nov 01, 2015
Justicealh3:
U most give account for all ur deeds.
what deeds? Snap out of it dear,you ain't gonna do that because nobody is gonna ask you to do...
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by IYANGBALI: 10:47am On Nov 01, 2015
abeg me i no wan die o,if i die,na wetin go happen to vickyrotex,freeglobe,rokiatu,mukina2,prettythicksme,edwife,funjosh,eleko1,seun and all my enemies on nairaland?na who dem go dey fight?

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 10:49am On Nov 01, 2015
Yes. There is life after death. Do you need a proof?
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by freecocoa(f): 10:49am On Nov 01, 2015
Horlufemi:
No and yes.

We die we sleep/pause (in the grave or shiloh) only to be ressurected when time comes. No hell no heaven.

We are all going to be ressurected.
Ressurected for what exactly?
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by bugzbunny: 10:50am On Nov 01, 2015
krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.
You said it already... We are higher
Dnt compare man to goats and snakes
There is more to mankind dat shows we dnt jzt die
Dnt wanna argue
Listen to grey messages
Read seven books of moses
Join an occultic group...dnt care
Really think u need to witness spirituality

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 10:55am On Nov 01, 2015
As an atheist who subscribe to evidence before belief, I 'd say the best way to determine the truth in life after death is you killing yourself to test it .

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by MISSCONGENIALITY(f): 10:56am On Nov 01, 2015
The Question of life after death/Immortality is a philosphical question and like other philosophical questions, have not been answered cos it has not been tested and proven to be either true or false. That's why people have contrasting veiws.However most people ask this quetion in relation to whether they should do good cos a reward awaits them in the after life or they should just do as they like since death is the of everyone? We will find out when we die and the thing is, it won't be possible for us to tell those who are living that we are either living or completely dead.
There so many questions that can't be answered in this life, even with all the science and technology of our age.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 10:56am On Nov 01, 2015
onyenze123:
Yes. There is life after death. Do you need a proof?
Have you ever seen one in reality?
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Darlduchi: 10:59am On Nov 01, 2015
WHY BRITAIN AND BRISTISH-NIGERIA MUST LEAVE BIAFRA ALONE

The scepter of Biafra torments Britain and Nigeria. British–Nigeria shall inevitably burst asunder or be destroyed against its own wishes, the wishes of Britain, and any other benefactors intent on killing, subjugating, and plundering Biafra. Anyone scheming to keep the British-Nigeria one with Biafra, baselessly, for the sake of oil, schemes but in vain.
As the clamor for the unconditional restoration of Biafra gains momentum, so also does the clamor for conspiracy, subjugation, and extermination projects by the enemies of progress, liberty, and freedom gain notoriety. The conglomerates of evil powers prowl in vain. They gloat but in vain to subdue the little Black wonder. For a time, they held sway in a doom already sealed. Now and again they grope but in vain. Biafra and Radio Biafra are here to stay.
While the forces of good deal openly in goodness and truth; those of darkness deal secretly; in cults and clandestine organizations, refining their endless intrigues, cascades of lies, distortions, and treacheries. Their media scoundrels cover the air waves with lies, obfuscations, conjectures, half-truths, half witnesses, half stories, full diabolism, and half wits. But like a toothless bulldog, you plot but in vain because you are already defeated.
The nexus between the British economy on the one hand; and progressive genocide, and wholesale destruction of Biafra’s destiny on the other can be gleaned from Britain’s penchant, albeit desperately, for petty imperialism and shameless thievery of Biafra’s oil and gas resources at all costs in post-colonial era. Supposedly.
Whereas the world converges to a global village where World Wide Web (WWW), twitter, and Facebook have essentially intertwined the ends of the universe, you show, still, no restraint in your characteristic schemes, callousness, pettiness, calumny, disdain for the truth; and satanic appetite for plunder.
Your imperialistic media monopolism, wherefrom you rained uninhibited falsehoods, and distortions, has been effectively neutered by WWW. Yet, you brazenly orchestrate mayhems and genocides in full view of the world. When will you repent of your racist war against the Black race, freedom, and justice?
You will not lead, but you will not follow. You will not speak but you will not listen. When you do speak, you pour out lies like rainfall. When you lead, it’s to corrupt everything in your path. How crude oil has invaded the dignity of man.
Of Biafra’s tribulations, you see and hear no evil. Are you deaf, dumb, and blind? Have you not heard that the leader of IPOB, an International figure, and a British citizen, has been criminally abducted by your stooges? Will you at the very least respect his world wide appeal as the leader of an indigenous people; or the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples which you upheld recently in Scotland and Falkland’s quests for self-determination or is Nnamdi Kanu black?
You pick and choose who, when, and where law and justice are applicable. You target Biafrans for your imperial prosecutions. You wear injustice like a badge of honor. You have developed your land precisely at the peril and expense of Biafra. Your satanic appetite for victimizing, enslaving, killing, and robbing Biafrans and the Black race can never be over emphasized. Have you British government no morals at all? Or is it amnesia?
To awaken your memory, you were nearly bombed out of existence by Adolf Hitler’s army in Second World War in the 1940’s as your “Royals” scampered to Canada and elsewhere for refuge. What if someone muffled your cry to the world or held out a consortium to exterminate you while Germany was at it? You know firsthand what it’s like to be the victim of a nefarious power. America, Russia and literally the world mercifully rescued you. Should you not likewise extend mercy to the lesser of you?
You form an unholy alliance with Islamic vagabonds and murderers that relish any opportunity to murder British citizens as well, for the sake of greed and oil plunder? It is one thing to be a violent thieve and a murderer; but it’s quite another to be brain dead in that line of work.
The 1967 genocide and calumny which you orchestrated and championed with satanic fervor intimidated the Biafra families to silence and servitude. But in silence, Biafrans have been dying, hounded, and marginalized for your sadistic pleasure. You, David Cameron, British government, as well as President Obama while professing to be Christians traitorously support British-Nigerian Muslim aggressors at the peril of Christian Biafrans? You only kid yourselves. Your wickedness, and proclivity to kill Christians, and play god only betrays your irredeemable duplicity and depravity.
Talking about workers of doom, there are certain stooges of supposedly Biafra extraction who participate in Nigeria Ponzi, not because they represent or speak for Biafrans; but because of their knack for sabotaging, and betraying the interest of Biafra for a pot of porridge. Such traitorous charlatans and their minions are the so called elite of Ibo people.
When a sensitive conversation regarding Biafra arises, these imposters—induced by their degenerate mentors, whose only goal is destruction and plunder of Biafra—arrive first with their pockets lined with fantastic shekels of silver. They speak from their pockets and for their employers. No sensible person, of course, would take these prostitutes claiming to speak for Biafra seriously. Good conscientious Biafrans are castigated, hounded, massacred or incarcerated. Good Biafrans are comprehensively proscribed and marginalized in the general scheme of British-Nigeria Ponzi. Any conversation without genuine voices of the people then is much ado about nothing.
Many of the impostors are alive today by virtue of surrounding themselves twenty four-seven with mindless Ak47 wielding police and army thugs. Otherwise, the people will tear to pieces these pitiful traitors who exacerbate the subjugation of Biafrans in pretext for representing them. They enjoy more audience by British-Nigeria criminal press and her arch benefactor, Britain and the British media bureaucracy because they are essentially integral, but disposable elements in the gang.
The mark of a quintessential British-Nigerian is the inordinate propensity to lie, murder, embezzle, distort, and corrupt; plus a total inability to reason much further than a terrestrial “baboon.” These perfidious silverbacks are the quintessential British-Nigerians. Unfortunately, their minds have been scrambled with lies and corruption. Try and imagine untangling 100 years of cascaded lies. Of course you can’t. It would amount to mental anguish and most likely a fruitless venture. But to simplify, only uncompromised Biafrans have the moral and existential imperative to lay bare the facts about British-Nigeria. Of course, there are some good people in the outlier nations, but is it worth the mining?
Anybody or organization sympathetic in any way to the continuation of the satanic edifice of death, plunder, and corruption is a quintessential British-Nigerian whose god is the British. Such primates ought not to be entertained anywhere except by their kind. Many of them have taken their treachery too seriously by forming shadow organizations to circumvent legitimate agitations of the beleaguered people of Biafra. For them, the plight of Biafra could be traded for Unclad profit. They say what Biafrans are not saying; and quickly compromise what Biafrans are not compromising.
The intruders, coveters, jealous neighbors, and scavengers who scavenge in a land not their own, who continually reap what they did not sow, who continually marginalize Biafrans, and who enjoy fantastic revenues from Biafra oil and gas fields, and labor from her entrepreneurship, of course, while bloated with unjust gains, will have no incentive to be reasonable, or truthful, lest truth, reason, and justice prevails and British-Nigeria contraption unravels.
Who then will you listen to? Is it the intruders, coveters, jealous neighbors, and scavengers who scavenge in a land not their heritage, who continually reap what they did not sow, who continually marginalize Biafrans, and who enjoy fantastic revenues from Biafra oil and gas fields, and labor from her entrepreneurship; or is it the people whose existence hangs on the balance; who have endured an endless stream of injustices, pogroms, genocides, and massacres for absolutely no just cause; a people economically blockaded, politically emasculated, and serially massacred; who have left their immensely endowed land for other places where they are strangers? Who is to speak, and who is to listen?
Is it the British intruder who criminally agglomerated insoluble cultures; who orchestrated the genocide of Biafrans for the sake of oil; or is it the Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba British- Nigerians who murdered, at the pleasure of Britain, far in excess of 3.5 million Biafrans and counting for the sake of oil? Or better yet, is it their children, friends, servants and employees? Or their backpacks in Biafraland? Exactly Who?
Do not be fooled—the truth can only rest on sound unencumbered minds. Only the prudent, the truthful, and the just would search out the truth about British-Nigeria and stand firmly in their unwavering support of the restoration of Biafra and the irrefutable conclusion that British-Nigeria has no moral justification, or any justification whatever, to be.
Enemies of freedom, liberty, and light will, as all evil entities, foment troubles in desperate attempt to highjack and distort the narrative, so they can shamelessly propagate the idea that the Indigenous People of Biafra are terrorists. They have kidnapped the leader of IPOB Nnamdi Kanu, in a delusive scheme to destroy Radio Biafra so their bloodbaths may resume unexposed.
This scheme should, seemingly, be easy to accomplish since their benefactor in chief, Britain, sits at the Security Council of United Nation where it has power and proximity to spin and suborn other powers; and even terrify them—as she did while waging a genocidal war to covet Biafra’s oil fields from 1967-1970—that a free Biafra portends equality, liberty, and freedom from white supremacism and any number of morbid fears that you can expect from a fully discovered backstabbing chameleon.
To be clear, Biafrans must, unapologetically exert her self-defense, and boldly defend their inalienable human rights, lives, heritage, and territory by all means under the sun, no matter what the conglomerate of dark powers think. Your cheap blackmails, labels, and propaganda will only work for your mindless quintessential British-Nigerians and yourselves. Good men and women of the world would not be fooled twice by your junk. This is 2015, not 1967 when your imperial filters filtered out every single truth about Biafra to confound the world on your overly satanic scheme.
Point blank: The right to life cannot and ought never to be ceded to any authority under the sun! Don’t stand idly by as British-Nigeria police and army thugs shoot defenseless citizens. You have 100% right to kill anybody you reasonably believe is about to kill you. Stop letting these vagabond murderers think they can kill you and go free.
You chastise Indigenous People of Biafra for exposing the truth and wanting to assert her inalienable God given rights. But you forget that you cannot rightfully take what you have no power to give. Life and freedom comes from the Creator God to the extent that you are even free to reject Him or kill another but not without consequence.
To cut this short; Biafra sinned and God used the gentiles to punish them for a time. In other words, the plight of Biafra thus far is no accident. It is preordained from the beginning of time that through the tribulations of the Covenant children of God, mankind may incontrovertibly know the One True God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Chiukwu Abiama). But woes betide the nations that will standby, curse, or oppress Biafra any further.
According to the gospel of Yeshua, the devil is a murder, a liar, and the father of lies from the beginning. The human nexus of this satanic DNA is Cain, the murderer in Genesis who killed Abel his brother in a jealous rage, and then lied about it. Like their father, Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba, and British government from time immemorial are murderers and liars; Also, Boko Haram, Maitasine, and the likes of Abubakar Shekau, late Osama bin Laden are fugitives; and the nomadic cattle herders rampaging from place to place not unlike Fredrick Luggard, a terrorist soldier of fortune, are vagabonds exactly like their spirit father—Cain.
Thus, when, on 15 different occasions, Hausa-Fulani Muslims attempted to conquer Biafra, nobody sent them. It is in their DNA to scavenge, kill and pillage. So they came naturally with their gutter religion as their opiate. But they were roundly defeated on all 15 occasions by the grace of Chiukwu Abiama (God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob). The British likewise conquered many nations. It is in their bone marrows to wander, kill and plunder. Nobody caused them to become wicked. God simply allowed them to have their way. And boy have they had it.
Yet evil embodies its own seed of assured destruction because it is incrementally aggressive, expansive, and unyielding until it collides with the supreme will of Chiukwu Abiama and then meet its inevitable doom. Since you only uphold the survival of the fittest jungle law; by jungle law, then, shall a stronger, but more ferocious power swallow you whole, unless you repent and leave Biafra alone.
Finally, whereas the punishment for abandoning God was preordained; the redemption from abandoning God was also preordained. The people of Biafra have been wailing to Chiukwu Abiama. The little ones are wailing, and so are their mother and fathers. The elderly, widows, disabled, and infirmed are in agony. Those at home are wailing, as are those scattered abroad; the living prefer death than continue without Gods face, and the dead from violence and genocide are resting, but not in peace. Their blood cries in the wilderness for justice.
But because the indigenous People of Biafra have atoned, and turned their face towards God, the case of Biafra is no longer in the jurisdiction of man. It is purely now the domain of God. Yet man must do whatever is necessary minute by minute to free Biafra, or face the consequence. But stand in the way and surely meet your doom.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by mostyg(m): 11:02am On Nov 01, 2015
The population of the world keep increasing as year increases, that means there was a time when there was only one man on planet Earth. Where did he came from? There are only two explanation- Evolution and Creation. You must believe in either one, if you believe in creation as I do then you must also believe in life after death. Because the same scripture that explains creation explains what to expect after death.

If your belief is in evolution authored by Charles Darwin, you cannot believe in God. It is not possible to believe in evolution and also believe in the existence of the Supreme being. So it is not news when you deny life after death.

Why do we have Apes and Chimpanzees if these are the guys that evolved to Homo Sapiens?

How do you explain the situation of a man that was buried but exhumed several years later only to find the body as if he was just buried even with fresh stains of blood?. I am alive as a witness to two of such case in Ijebu Ode, Ogun State, Nigeria.


I have posted a chapter 78 of the Quran, please read with open mind.


1. What are they asking (one another)?

2. About the great news (and the Day of Resurrection, etc.),

3. About which they are in disagreement.

4. Nay, they will come to know!

5. Nay, again, they will come to know!

6. Have We not made the earth as a bed,

7. And the mountains as pegs?

8. And We have created you in pairs (male and female, tall and short, good and bad, etc.).

9. And have made your sleep as a thing for rest.

10. And have made the night as a covering (through its darkness),

11. And have made the day for livelihood.

12. And We have built above you seven strong (heavens),

13. And have made (therein) a shining lamp (sun).

14. And have sent down from the rainy clouds abundant water.

15. That We may produce therewith corn and vegetations,

16. And gardens of thick growth.

17. Verily, the Day of Decision is a fixed time,

18. The Day when the Trumpet will be blown, and you shall come forth in crowds (groups);

19. And the heaven shall be opened, and it will become as gates,

20. And the mountains shall be moved away from their places and they will be as if they were a mirage.

21. Truly, Hell is a place of ambush,

22. A dwelling place for the (sinners, criminals, etc.),

23. They will abide therein for ages,

24. Nothing cool shall they taste therein, nor any drink.

25. Except boiling water, and dirty wound discharges.

26. An exact recompense (according to their evil crimes).

27. For verily, they used not to look for a reckoning.

28. But they belied Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, and that which Our Prophet (Peace be upon him) brought) completely.

29. And all things We have recorded in a Book.

30. So taste you (the results of your evil actions); no increase shall We give you, except in torment.

31. Verily, for the pious, there will be a success (Paradise);

32. Gardens and grapeyards;

33. And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age;

34. And a full cup (of wine).

35. No Laghw (dirty, false, evil talk) shall they hear therein, nor lying;

36. A reward from your Lord, an ample calculated gift (according to the best of their good deeds).

37. (From) the Lord of the heavens and the earth, and whatsoever is in between them, the Most Beneficent, none can dare to speak with Him (on the Day of Resurrection except after His Leave).

38. The Day that Ar-Ruh [Jibrael (Gabriel) or another angel] and the angels will stand forth in rows, none shall speak except him whom the Most Beneficent (Allah) allows, and he will speak what is right.

39. That is without doubt the True Day, so, whosoever wills, let him seek a place with (or a way to) His Lord (by obeying Him in this worldly life)!

40. Verily, We have warned you of a near torment, the Day when man will see that (the deeds) which his hands have sent forth, and the disbeliever will say: "Woe to me! Would that I were dust!"

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by OgundeleT(m): 11:03am On Nov 01, 2015
ichommy:
CC: OgundeleT Freecocoa Dammyg Atheist101 etc cheesy grin
there is no life after death
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by crackhouse(m): 11:08am On Nov 01, 2015
Rossikk:


That is not what the op is talking about. He means what happens right after a person dies a physical death, ie does the consciousness survive?

Much evidence suggests the answer to that is a resounding YES.
what evidence?.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by vanvickie(m): 11:09am On Nov 01, 2015
Please try and read Ur bible and deduce wat is actually there correctly..if 4 any reason you do not believe that u were created..please hold it to yourself.. maybe u tink u were thrown from the sky or something..I wonder y scientist haven't been able to tel us how we were made or created. As for me, I believe that I WAS CREATED BY ALMIGHTY GOD AND THAT IF I DIE I WILL RETURN BACK TO HIM..& As for the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH..wel that is the Church Handed over from Jesus to his Disciple (St. Peter) and it has been passing from GENERATION TO GENERATION! PLEASE IF U DON'T BELIEVE wat people have said..U can believe what ever helps you sleep at night..but please do not INSULT A DENOMINATION OR RELIGION! HAPPY SUNDAY...

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by mostyg(m): 11:10am On Nov 01, 2015
Quran 75

. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;

2. And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).

3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?

4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers.

5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue committing sins.

6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"

7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,

8. And the moon will be eclipsed,

9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)

10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"

11. No! There is no refuge!

12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.

13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).

14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin, hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].

15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 11:12am On Nov 01, 2015
There is life before and after death. We are eternal energy that never dies.

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Realtol(m): 11:15am On Nov 01, 2015
johnydon22:
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The thing is like he said people tend to find comfort in that whole concept of passing away and transcending into another life instead of simply dying.

People need such flimsy wishful hopes to cling to because many are not ready to accept the absoluteness of death.

Death simply means inexistence (stop existing). we have not been existing long before this biological machines called body, i wonder how people still in their greed and selfishness think something will still exist after this body... why was that thing not existing before this body?

It is not difficult to understand why we make up these stories for ourselves owing to the fact that we are probably the only specie on this planet that know at a very young age that we are going to die.

Other species just live in the moment, i doubt the dogs and elephants out there are fretting about an afterlife or greedily hoping for another after this one or performing rituals to earn a place.

No they just live in this brief one as they see it

That knowledge of the inevitable end of our being is somewhat of a burden to us and with that comes a need for a hope to cling on even if it is a wishful shadow, even if it is a greedy one.

It has made many people to get lost in the euphoria of their wishful delusion, cus they have not finished living in this one or ever having learnt to live in this one greedily chasing after another and end up having not lived any at all.

So why not we all forget dwelling in these fantasies and focus on where we are now and what we have right now which is here and now.

Giving up this earth to chase after afterlife is life giving up a known substance to chase after a wishful shadow...
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Sir, are you suggesting we should live in the moment like animals and bother less about life after? If yes, what now differentiate us from animal? I believe we're wiser than them.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Btruth: 11:16am On Nov 01, 2015
There's life after death for sure...., I will be back to give my own explanations.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by ExpensiveShit: 11:18am On Nov 01, 2015
johnydon22:
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The thing is like he said people tend to find comfort in that whole concept of passing away and transcending into another life instead of simply dying.

People need such flimsy wishful hopes to cling to because many are not ready to accept the absoluteness of death.

Death simply means inexistence (stop existing). we have not been existing long before this biological machines called body, i wonder how people still in their greed and selfishness think something will still exist after this body... why was that thing not existing before this body?

It is not difficult to understand why we make up these stories for ourselves owing to the fact that we are probably the only specie on this planet that know at a very young age that we are going to die.

Other species just live in the moment, i doubt the dogs and elephants out there are fretting about an afterlife or greedily hoping for another after this one or performing rituals to earn a place.

No they just live in this brief one as they see it

That knowledge of the inevitable end of our being is somewhat of a burden to us and with that comes a need for a hope to cling on even if it is a wishful shadow, even if it is a greedy one.

It has made many people to get lost in the euphoria of their wishful delusion, cus they have not finished living in this one or ever having learnt to live in this one greedily chasing after another and end up having not lived any at all.

So why not we all forget dwelling in these fantasies and focus on where we are now and what we have right now which is here and now.

Giving up this earth to chase after afterlife is life giving up a known substance to chase after a wishful shadow...
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Most sensible post on this thread!

One keg of palmwine for you.

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by dinggle: 11:21am On Nov 01, 2015
@ poster are you a rich man? last I check it is only the rich that are worried, for you to know, you will have to die first. As a poor man where I go carry poverty go na the last thing wen dey my mind, make I first suffer this one finish before i go worry of the one i go do after death.

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 11:29am On Nov 01, 2015
IYANGBALI:
abeg me i no wan die o,if i die,na wetin go happen to vickyrotex,freeglobe,rokiatu,mukina2,prettythicksme,edwife,funjosh,eleko1,seun and all my enemies on nairaland?na who dem go dey fight?
Smh grin grin happy new month beebee grin
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by musicwriter(m): 11:31am On Nov 01, 2015
doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?



Philosophical answer........

You cannot die, in the first place. Even if you wanted you cannot die. Cause there's nothing like death.

What they call death is a change of state, like water in a kettle evaporating into the air in the form of steam. Believe it or not, the water didn't disappear, the water is still there in the air, just you can't see it. This includes all the water you have drank since you was born, all the water you have used to bath, all the water you've thrown away, including those used by your mother and father, your friends, even your ancestors, are still the same water all of use today. All those water didn't die, they didn't even go away. They're still here with us!!. It's just that our senses deceive us sometimes about the nature of reality.

It could also be described as a mirage. Like when you're traveling and keep seeing pool of water in front on the expressway, but when you get there you see no water.

Where were you before you was born?. Were you dead?.

Scientific answer....

Ultimately, the smallest thing in our universe are photons and quanta, which are waves of energy. And that's what atoms themselves are made of.

And we know atoms are 99% empty space. So, literally, you're not a solid, but an illusion of solid.

Quanta and photons pass through walls like Harry Potter would in the movie, they pass though iron, flesh of humans, water, anything!. They are zooming through all of us and everything else everywhere in the universe. You're literally breathing quanta and photons where you are now and they will continue zooming through you, even if you die the so called death. They will continue zooming through your last decaying teeth and will eventually go non physical, when there's no physical object for them to pass through.

Quanta and photons are eternal, intelligent, conscious, they're in everywhere at all time (omnipresent). We also possess these qualities, because that's what we're made of in the first place. We literally vibrate constantly as they travel through our bodies. Therefore, we're eternal and literally small Gods ourselves. All these confirmed by all the quantum physics.

Like the water and steam example above, death is just an evaporation of quanta and photons into the non physical realm of existence. We're already in eternity now, so death don't even have a chance of happening.

See below videos.

The nature of reality, spirituality, and quantum physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwT2_dovG9M

Eternity explained by science not religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZyaBlM0Bc

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by brightedge(m): 11:33am On Nov 01, 2015
johnydon22:

It has made many people to get lost in the euphoria of their wishful delusion, cus they have not finished living in this one or ever having learnt to live in this one greedily chasing after another and end up having not lived any at all.

I like to believe that there is life after death. It is easy to convince myself that such exist, simply because I want to live after I die. Hence, I can easily ignore every evidence against it and focus on evidence that suggest that life after death is real. However, I'm glad to see that some persons can reason objectively about this. Like @johnydon22, I want to LIVE NOW. I'm not going to wait for an afterlife to start living. I would do my best to "inherit" the afterlife, if it ends up being real. But in the meantime, I would live in the moment.

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Hysmady(m): 11:34am On Nov 01, 2015
krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.
exactly my thought
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 11:34am On Nov 01, 2015
Ah, so this is where johnydon22 was having fun, eh? Why didn't anyone call me the party? grin

Let's take this from the top.
First, what is your earliest memory? When you were three? Two? Anyway, any moment earlier than your earliest memory, you do NOT exist. What existed was a primate mammal without self awareness. At this point, your brain was so small that intelligence was inconceivable.

Second, when you sleep, how much do you remember? Even if you dream, you can never remember more than an hour of dream "footage," the other six or seven hours is lost.

Similarly, when people are afflicted with with schizophrenia, their personality may completely shatter. Causing them to behave like idiots. While not remembering any of this.

Something similar happens in the operating rooms. As well as when alcohol is indiscriminately consumed.

From the above, one can very quickly draw a very logical conclusion. The feeling of being ALIVE, aka, CONSCIOUSNESS, can only occur with a brain that is MATURED, ALERT, and CORRECTLY CONFIGURED.

We can conclude that when more than 5% of the brain is inactive or incorrectly configured, consciousness CANNOT occur.


Now, at death, 100% of the brain is inactive. 100% is incorrectly configured as well, now, to suggest that at this point, consciousness can occur, you'll be breaking Occam's razor. Completely, not just blunting it, consciousness is the product of a physical process. What spiritual proccess can replicate it. If so, why do we still need physical systems? Evolution is NOT that stupid. We should all be ghouls now. It's like saying you can use some spiritual legs to walk after you leg as been amputated, if that is possible, then why do you even have a physical leg?

OR, you could just believe in God. The omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, all majestic, sky Herbalist who is just really Good for explaining shyte like this.


Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Weah96: 11:35am On Nov 01, 2015
Death is inevitable. No one alive has been dead before. The case is closed. Eat your garri in peace and don't bother about something that you cannot avoid. No human alive can help you, especially the ones waving the books. Those books are considered third party information, and the person holding it doesn't know whether the authors were drunk or high or just playing around.

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Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by roxell120(m): 11:36am On Nov 01, 2015
A MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION. IM A CHRISTIAN AND I BELIEVE.I STILL BELIEVE THAT GOD WHO MADE HAVEN SHOULD HELP ME TASTE IT ON EARTH BEFORE THE OTHER ONE
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by nwaanambra1(m): 11:37am On Nov 01, 2015
Rossikk:


That is not what the op is talking about. He means what happens right after a person dies a physical death, ie does the consciousness survive?

Much evidence suggests the answer to that is a resounding YES.

no bro!

lets stop deluding ourselves.

after death - its a total state of non existence. nothing! we just cease to exist. it all ends.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 11:38am On Nov 01, 2015
krattoss:
what happens when chicken and, goats die?

last time I checked, we re all animals but higher ones.

we kill snakes, lions and many others if we catch them. they in turn kill us if they catch and outsmart us.

so if u saying we got afterlife. that means they v got afterlife also.
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by IYANGBALI: 11:38am On Nov 01, 2015
prettythicksme:
Smh grin grin happy new month beebee grin
shame to you grin
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by abatisegun: 11:41am On Nov 01, 2015
doneee:
This has really been bothering me lately.


So one day, we'll have to die?

where are we going?
or we just die and it's over?


Quran chapter 64 vs 7 there are many verse in the Quran that clearly stated this no doubt about it there is life after death
Re: Is There Really Life After Death? by Nobody: 11:41am On Nov 01, 2015
Why bothering to know events of thereafter or after life? Let's live our present lives pretty well. Let's be good to one another.

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