KingEbukasBlog:


Rome and Dubai are not countries . Muslims take their religion more seriously than Christians . Russia is overly religious in case you don't know - do you know what Homosexuals go through there ? The members of the UK parliament and Royalty adhere to Christianity religiously . And can an atheist rule America ? America holds a National Prayer Day and Thanksgiving has religious roots too .

Poverty is actually more prevalent in areas were less significant religions are practiced .

Thanks for that. In fact, America started out being very religious (One Nation Under GOD) but when GOD'S blessings and technological advancements/scientific breakthroughs came, they forgot God the Giver and esteemed the gifts more.

YourMain:


No I mean normal British people. Oh yeah you haven't been to Britain. You aren't British. You wouldn't know! You really think they put everything on tabloids. Are you actually for real?

Wow ! No need for BBC and CNN or any other international media outlet then . I wonder why you are obdurate ( obvious you are ) about one obtaining proper information about from a MEDIA OUTLET . There is also the comment section for you to know the reaction of people towards a particular situation .

Here are the reactions from some Britons after Putin struck ISIS using missiles launched from a submarine

Just got off. 24 hrs ban that expired at exactly 1844H.
I still can't respond any of my 12 mentions and I fear being banned again.
I would like to believe that none of this is malicious in any way. If any of the Negroes opposing me here double as admins and mods, and they feel I have violated ANY or NL rules they should say so.

Scholar8200:
Thanks for that. In fact, America started out being very religious (One Nation Under GOD) but when blessings and technological advancements/scientific breakthroughs came, they forgot God.

Exactly ! These atheists forget that so easily and they claim to deal with facts

vooks:
Just got off. 24 hrs ban that expired at exactly 1844H.
I still can't respond any of my 12 mentions and I fear being banned again.
I would like to believe that none of this is malicious in any way. If any of the Negroes opposing me here double as admins and mods, and they feel I have violated ANY or NL rules they should say so.

I guess you were responding too fast so maybe the spam bot thought you were spamming the thread . Comment like every 10 minutes and reduce the number of comments you make in a small amount of time - that should solve the problem .

KingEbukasBlog:


Wow ! No need for BBC and CNN or any other international media outlet then . I wonder why you are obdurate ( obvious you are ) about one obtaining proper information about from a MEDIA OUTLET . There is also the comment section for you to know the reaction of people towards a particular situation .

Here are the reactions from some Britons after Putin struck ISIS using missiles launched from a submarine

Oh I'm sure you just forgot about.

I wonder why. Maybe because you see what david Cameron wanys you to see.

sonOfLucifer:

You aren't a computer scientist. You only know how to use computers.

. Medical doctors only know how to use medicine . You guys black out when I try to explain intelligence and complexity using computer science , relating it with nature's and why it should be used as an evidence for a creator

YourMain:


Oh I'm sure you just forgot about.

I wonder why. Maybe because you see what david Cameron wanys you to see.

Come on girl , its obvious these are the ones peeing their pants over fears of terrorists attacks - a response from ISIS . Leaving that out - the terrorist attack response from ISIS - every Briton wants the group to be obliterated .

YourMain:


Oh I'm sure you just forgot about.

I wonder why. Maybe [size=20pt]because you see what david Cameron wanys you to see. [/size]

Dont sound like this is some conspiracy . Pleeeeasseeeee

KingEbukasBlog:


Come on girl , its obvious these are the ones peeing their pants over fears of terrorists attacks - a response from ISIS . Leaving that out - the terrorist attack response from ISIS - every Briton wants the group to be obliterated .

Right. Because you're British and you'd know. There was actually a guy being interviewed and he talked about how he survived a terrorist attack. And he talked about humanity. And how david Cameron is just being evil and he has no right to speak for the British race.

Nevertheless the media doesn't tell you everything so you cannot judge religion or culture by what you hear or see. You've to experience it and then decide for yourself.

KingEbukasBlog:


I guess you were responding too fast so maybe the spam bot thought you were spamming the thread . Comment like every 10 minutes and reduce the number of comments you make in a small amount of time - that should solve the problem .

Thank you my broda.

KingEbukasBlog:

You guys black out when I try to explain intelligence and complexity using computer science , relating it with nature's and why it should be used as an evidence for a creator

Please do so. Let me read you explain software without hardware as its base.

I want to talk about ABIOGENESIS or chemical evolution.
This is the belief that elements formed compounds which formed life all by themselves.
I wish to touch on the probability of this happening naturally

As all may have noticed, whenever the probability of natural origins are pointed out, the antitheists deflect because the facts are embarrassingly against them.

Some simple maths
The probability of a tossed coin landing on tails is 1/2 or 0.5
The probability of two tossed coins landing on tails is (1/2)*2 or (0.5)^2
The probability of three tossed coins landing on tails simultaneously is (1/2)*3 or (0.5)^3
The probability of one hundred tossed coins landing on tails simultaneously is (1/2)^100 or (0.5)^100 or roughly 10^-30

The impossibility of ABIOGENESIS
The building blocks of life is amino acids. Amino acids combine to form proteins
There is something called chirality which is all about symmetry. Amino acids only combine if they are homochiral or like-handed, either right or left handed.
In fact, all proteins found in living things are made up of left-handed amino acids!
Let's take a simple protein made up of one hundred amino acids. What is the probability of these acids being left handed? Exactly 10^-30

Note, the smallest/shortest known protein has 20 amino acids whereas the smallest/shortest in humans has 234 amino acids

Remember forming the 100 amino acids would not form life, they'd still need to form RNA and DNA. These are more complex and homochirality equally applies to them.

Further, the 'simplest' known self-replicating organism requires at least 370 proteins!

Assuming the 'simplest' known self-replicating organism requires just 100 amino acid chains. What is the probability of these forming assuming each need 100 amino acids? 10^-(100*30) or 10^-3000 or 0.5^9966 or probability of 9,966 coins flipped landing tails!

To put this into context, recall it is estimated there are 10^80 atoms in the ENTIRE universe

I need a mathematician to correct me if I stray
We are told the universe is 15 billion years young and it has 10^80 atoms.
Supposing every atom in the universe flips a set of 9,966 coins a billion times per second for 15 billion years. How many sets of 9,966 coins would have been flipped by now?

10^80 * 15 * 10^9 * 365 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 10^9 =10^107

Now mr davien and plaetton, what is the probability of forming our 100 amino acids above given 10^107 attempts?
It is 10^-3000 * 10^107 or 10^ 3,893

This means even if ALL the 100 billion galaxies in the universe 'attempted' to make the simplest organism naturally, there is no chance in hell of them getting nowhere in 15 billion years!

Once again, mathematics knocks down naturalism, EVILution and panspermia.

For this, Prometheus is as believable as Ice Age my all time favorite animation

KingEbukasBlog:


Do I need to visit France or a francophone country to learn French ? The UK is a strong Christian country . I visit their tabloids like there is no tomorrow . Plus you seem not to understand what having religious roots mean ? SMH . THANKSGIVING HAS BOTH RELIGIOUS and CULTURAL ROOTS . Why the hell is it called THANKSGIVING ? .


Yeah and there are gay christian brothers who preach the gospel in these countries .

Uncle, dont try that sh*t.
I live in the Uk. Go into a british church today, only old white ppl fill the front seats, the rest of the church is empty. So stop lying for Jesus pls. Christianity is steadily declining in the Uk. The average white person in the Uk does not care about Jesus

lepasharon:


Uncle, dont try that sh*t. I live in the Uk. Go into a british church today, only old white ppl fill the front seats, the rest of the church is empty. So stop lying for Jesus pls. Christianity is steadily declining in the Uk

Last year , I didn't go to Church for 2 months . .

Anyways , when last did you go to Church ?

KingEbukasBlog:


Last year , I didn't go to Church for 2 months . .

Anyways , when last did you go to Church ?

Dont ask me dumb questions pls.

Only 4 in 10 brits identify as Christians. You can't get around facts
and I thougth strong christians go to church regularly, no ?

lepasharon:


Dont ask me dumb questions pls.

Only 4 in 10 brits identify as Christians. You can't get around facts
and I thougth strong christians go to church regularly, no ?

stop making false claims . You first claimed only old people go to church . It was easy to detect the blatant lie , so I wanted confirmation by asking you when last you went to church . And by the way 6 in 10 Brits identify as Christians and the remaining - Islam , Buddhism , Agnosticism and Atheism - struggle for the remaining four .

Ouch !

I'm a strong christian and is the love for God in your heart and your saved soul that count- better than being identified as a mere church-goer

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vooks:
I want to talk about ABIOGENESIS or chemical evolution.
This is the belief that elements formed compounds which formed life all by themselves.
I wish to touch on the probability of this happening naturally

As all may have noticed, whenever the probability of natural origins are pointed out, the antitheists deflect because the facts are embarrassingly against them.

Some simple maths
The probability of a tossed coin landing on tails is 1/2 or 0.5
The probability of two tossed coins landing on tails is (1/2)*2 or (0.5)^2
The probability of three tossed coins landing on tails simultaneously is (1/2)*3 or (0.5)^3
The probability of one hundred tossed coins landing on tails simultaneously is (1/2)^100 or (0.5)^100 or roughly 10^-30

The impossibility of ABIOGENESIS
The building blocks of life is amino acids. Amino acids combine to form proteins
There is something called chirality which is all about symmetry. Amino acids only combine if they are homochiral or like-handed, either right or left handed.
In fact, all proteins found in living things are made up of left-handed amino acids!
Let's take a simple protein made up of one hundred amino acids. What is the probability of these acids being left handed? Exactly 10^30

Note, the smallest/shortest known protein has 20 amino acids whereas the smallest/shortest in humans has 234 amino acids

Remember forming the 100 amino acids would not form life, they'd still need to form RNA and DNA. These are more complex and homochirality equally applies to them.

Further, the 'simplest' known self-replicating organism requires at least 370 proteins!

Assuming the 'simplest' known self-replicating organism requires just 100 amino acid chains. What is the probability of these forming assuming each need 100 amino acids? 10^-(100*30) or 10^-3000 or 0.5^9966 or probability of 9,966 coins flipped landing tails!

To put this into context, recall it is estimated there are 10^80 atoms in the ENTIRE universe

I need a mathematician to correct me if I stray
We are told the universe is 15 billion years young and it has 10^80 atoms.
Supposing every atom in the universe flips a set of 9,966 coins a billion times per second for 15 billion years. How many sets of 9,966 coins would have been flipped by now?

10^80 * 15 * 10^9 * 365 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 10^9 =10^107

Now mr davien and plaetton, what is the probability of forming our 100 amino acids above given 10^107 attempts?
It is 10^-3000 * 10^107 or 10^ 3,893

This means even if ALL the 100 billion galaxies in the universe 'attempted' to make the simplest organism naturally, there is no chance in hell of them getting nowhere in 15 billion years!

Once again, mathematics knocks down naturalism, EVILution and panspermia.

For this, Prometheus is as believable as Ice Age my all time favorite animation

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I wonder why a so called rational thinking human would base the genesis of the universe and life on probability - anything to discredit the efforts of a creator .

Anyway bro , I call mine the Big Fraud Theory and SCAMvolution . Panspermia is defined as the ludicrous escape route seeing Abiogenesis on earth is gibberish ( it still redirects to Abiogenesis still !!! )

KingEbukasBlog:
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I wonder why a so called rational thinking human would base the genesis of the universe and life on probability - anything to discredit the efforts of a creator .

Anyway bro , I call mine the Big Fraud Theory and SCAMvolution . Panspermia is defined as the ludicrous escape route seeing Abiogenesis on earth is gibberish ( it still redirects to Abiogenesis still !!! )

The heart is deceitful and desperate to deny the Creator so they are not accountable to Him.


I have heard that Darwin's Origin of Species was a response to a book on ID. While one man settled on God, Darwin set out to eliminate God at all costs

Teempakguy:
You've got to be kidding me.

Well, I already gave you an example of complexity and high order arising out of random processes. I asked you what would happen to a cereal bowl the size of canis majoris if it were left in space. you refused to answer.

anyway, here is another example.

amino acid



peptide

the latter can be formed from the former by completely random process.

Negro,
Google will not make you a genius in a few minutes. Do you know anything about proteins and amino acids?
Check out my probability for life simulation here
https://www.nairaland.com/2783467/plaetton-why-everything-fine-tuned-life/10#40850089

Next, the only way you can attempt to slither out of this is by bait-and-switch where you change meaning of terms halfway to prop your theories.

Exactly how are these amino acids formed in the lab? Do you know the conditions? They are CONTROLLED. Right temperature, right pressure, right concentration..... This is no 'random process' anymore than the Subaru is manufactured in a 'completely random process'

Teempakguy:
That point when Wikipedia tells you so much truth that goes against your beliefs that you start calling it lame.


Theories were never rammed into my throat. religion was. and i mistook it for fact for years.
now i know better. you don't. you still think that a book written by misguided sun beaten Israelites is superior to theories established by constant experiments and testing and you expect me to take you seriously? you must be joking.

Theories of abiogenesis? How many times have they been 'established by constant experiments and testing'?
And how far have they got with identifying dark matter boogeyman

Teempakguy:
You missed my entire point.

what i meant was, A cell sacrifices order and beauty for complexity.

which is the opposite of what you'd expect if it were designed by someone who understood everything. or a God.

if you compare a human being with a humanoid robot, you'll find the same thing, a humanoid robot sacrifices beauty for functionality. this immediately points out that the designer was using a trial and error method.

if there was a God who was infinitely powerful and infinitely intelligent, we would find cells attractive. not just the animals we see everyday and are already used to.

You are turning idiotic gradually.
Who told you appealing to your senses is the objective of Design?
For one your naked eyes can't see what you imagine was supposed to be beautiful
Secondly, exactly what do you mean 'sacrifices'? This is based on your presumption that it is SUPPOSED to appeal to you, and that the only reason it does not is because it's designer could not handle beauty and function.

Teempakguy:
yeah, my point exactly.

MR NIGER DAC. The A Doesn't stand for attractive. it stands for adaptation. the fish adapted to it's environment. it was trying to survive. and now, you insult all it's efforts through history by claiming it was put there by some drunk being.

meanwhile, you still have no proof whatsoever for this being ever existing.

I'm tired of all this.

The fish was CREATED precisely for its environment, it was created to live there not to attempt to survive nor appeal to you

lodscott:



one who hasn't experienced chaos cannot know what order is, or better yet if you don't know what a clean cup is, you would always think yours is clean.you can't say your cup is clean until you see another cup, same way we cnt say our universe is intelligently designed.

We have millions of planets out there that would NEVER support life of any sort, just the earth

AlfaSeltzer:


No it does not. Maybe the omnimpotent designer designed chance.

Yes but designing chance would not increase chances of chance making nothing this ordered and complex

lodscott:
some people are just feeble minded. do know how big the universe is. o you know all nine planets can fit into d distance between d earth and d moon with space remaining.the universe is infinite. man is still struggling to put figures On d observable universe. there are existences our senses cannot pick up because we are only limited to perceive a particular range of frequencies, things like dark matter which can only be observed by its effect on gravity. when something is infinite it means it contains everything. both order and disorder. how you can't fantom that the 'organization' of the earth and what you seen can occur in INFINITY baffles me

Young man go back to school. Who told you the universe is infinite?

vooks:


The heart is deceitful and desperate to deny the Creator so they are not accountable to Him.


I have heard that Darwin's Origin of Species was a response to a book on ID. While one man settled on God, Darwin set out to eliminate God at all costs

Ive been going through this site for a while - http://101proofsforgod..com.ng - the author proves life is intelligently designed , nullifying the idea of probability a.ka chance-of-the-gaps and evolution .

sonOfLucifer:

Please do so. Let me read you explain software without hardware as its base.

. How does this relate to what I earlier said

KingEbukasBlog:


Ive been going through this site for a while - http://101proofsforgod..com.ng - the author proves life is intelligently designed , nullifying the idea of probability a.ka chance-of-the-gaps and evolution .

Thanks, I will make time and go through it

Scholar8200:
Thanks for that. In fact, America started out being very religious (One Nation Under GOD) but when GOD'S blessings and technological advancements/scientific breakthroughs came, they forgot God the Giver and esteemed the gifts more.

You've got things so backwards. The second America started breaking off from religion (starting from seperation of church & state around 1800) is when progress began to be made. "Gifts" my butthole. Nothing America has accomplished was due to prayer (aka wishful thinking), it all came from hard work and individuals who were willing to risk their time and even their lives to put in years and years of research & fight for what's right -- often going against the push of religious influencers. Stop attributing the accomplishments of dedicated, focused, educated human beings to your fairy tale. That's one of the most condescending and irritating things you Christians do.

And "one nation under god" wasn't even added to the pledge till 1954, and that was because World War II created paranoia about communism spreading. I'm sure it'll be removed within the next 50 years, and it'll be good riddance.

cloudgoddess:

You've got things so backwards. The second America started breaking off from religion (starting from seperation of church & state around 1800) is when progress began to be made. "Gifts" my butthole. Nothing America has accomplished was due to prayer (aka wishful thinking), it all came from hard work and individuals who were willing to risk their time and even their lives to put in years and years of research & fight for what's right -- often going against the push of religious influencers. Stop attributing the accomplishments of dedicated, focused, educated human beings to your fairy tale. That's one of the most condescending and irritating things you Christians do.

And "one nation under god" wasn't even added to the pledge till 1954, and that was because World War II created paranoia about communism spreading. I'm sure it'll be removed within the next 50 years, and it'll be good riddance.

ok

KingEbukasBlog:


Ive been going through this site for a while - http://101proofsforgod..com.ng - the author proves life is intelligently designed , nullifying the idea of probability a.ka chance-of-the-gaps and evolution .

all i see is a bunch of random facts followed by "this is so amazing and so god must have done it!" show that site to any actual biologist and see how quickly you get laughed at.

i really don't think you people know how science works. all you know how to do is butcher science to try & twist it to support your beliefs. and i truly believe you don't want to learn -- you just want any shred of "proof", no matter how unfounded, to back up what you've already been indoctrinated to believe. its quite sad to watch.