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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by OneManLegion(m): 12:00am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


GEJ has vehemently denied ever signing anything close to $2b during his tenure.

In all honesty, if I see facts or records or testimony or charges totaling $2.2 b , I will accept that I have been wrong.

The truth is that the government is using that $2.2b figure for its shock value only.
Simple.

Dasuki is the chief defendant here and he has not denied it. He's defense is that he did not embezzle the funds but used it for the weapons he said he needed. This defense has since been torn apart by the prosecutors with the recovery of hundreds of millions of naira from the Arms deal scandal.

Dasuki is now fighting on legalese. He's looking for a loophole to exploit so he can go Scot-free.

You claim the figures don't add up but no media outlet corroborates your fallacious supposition. Not Sahara Reporters, not Premium Times, Not Vanguard Ngr, Not even UK Daily Mail(the unofficial propaganda machine of the PDP in the UK).


The ONSA applied for $2.1b and was given same. I believe they spent a negligible amount therefrom to procure faulty, defective weaponry for the beleaguered soldiers who were endangered while Dasuki and co spent the rest on spiritual consultations(Baffarawa), and other such nonsensical stuffs.


Stop trying to defend the indefensible.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by yungmill(m): 12:00am On May 17, 2016
The way we've fallen in this country is alarming! Any one who says jack against this government is now an ipob, ipod or ipad, even if the person is stating facts in this case (plaetton) or you are a supporter of corruption. I dont know much about this case but please if you are to counter once opinion do it with facts am yet to see any of the supposed intelligent cross examiners post anything meaningful, just the usual rants, what a pity

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Apina(m): 12:01am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


I like FACTS better. You can deal with beliefs.

That's the difference between you and I, comrade.

FACTS and Beliefs are not in the same universe.
You speak like a philosopher within the confines of "episteme"

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Stevosty: 12:06am On May 17, 2016
NaijaEfcc:
I just weak for una, is this Zombie thing a job or what? lack proof? some returned the shared money? so it has reduce? how come the amount still never reduce? who and who has returned which money? so they are now free since they returned the money? so the president can now accuse without prove abi? Oya what of the 20billon that Sanusi said has been missing? why can't Nigerians understand when they are been used to settle scores?? think my man ( unless you are doing a zombie job but do it with conscience)
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/196518-2-1-billion-dasukigate-key-questions-jonathan-must-answer-serap.html
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by babadee1(m): 12:09am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:
There has been Zero evidence, Zilch, that anyone collected $2.1b and misappropriated, let alone shared.

Infact, the entire Nigerian defence budget lies in that neighborhood, and has hardly ever exceeded that amount in any given year.

To say that they collected and shared $2.1b is equivalent to saying that some group of people looted the entire Nigerian defence budget ,,. Which is a boldface LIE.

The NSA, under Dasuki, misappropriated , according to publicly available records, about $322m or so.

Yet, everyday, the propaganda machinery keeps pumping out $2.1b theft.

The president never said the $2.1b was stolen by Dasuki alone. That's the total amount stolen from the defence budget not in one year but over the five years of Jonathan's administration. The Dasuki probe has spread out into all the arms of the military and that is the total amount at stake.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by comodo: 12:09am On May 17, 2016
Nigerians in connivance with the west have been looting since 1914.
LOOTED MONEY DISCOVERED IN FOREIGN BANKS. NAMES OF DEPOSITORS: LONDON SWISS U.S.A & GERMANY.

GEN. IBRAHIM BABANGIDA
£6.256b
$7.41b
$2.00b
DM 9.00b

GEN. ABUBAKAR
£1.31b
$2.33b
$8.00m
DM 1b

REAR A. MIKE AKHIGBE
£1.24b
$2.42b
$671m
DM 900m

GEN. JERRY USENI
£3.046b
$2.01b
$1.01b
DM 700m

ALHAJI ISMAILA GWARZO
£1.03b
$2.00b
$1.30b
DM 345m

ALHAJI UMARU DIKKO
£4.5b
$1.4b
$700m
DM 500m

PAUL OGUWMA
£300m
$1.42b
$200m
DM 3.01m

GEN. SANI ABACHA
£5.01b
$4.09b
$800m
DM 535m

MOHAMMED ABACHA
£300m
$1.2b
$139m
DM 471m

ABDUKADIR ABACHA
£700m
$1.21b
$900m
DM 300m

ALHAJI WADA NAS
£600m
$1.32b
DM 371m

TOM IKIMI
£400m
$1.39b
$133m
DM 371m

DAN ETETE
£1.12b
$1.03b
$400m
DM 1.72m

DON ETIEBET
£2.5b
$1.06b
$700m
DM 361m

MAJ. AL – MUSTAPHA
£600m
$1.001b
DM 210m

ANTHONY ANI
£2.9b
$1.09b
$360m
DM 1.66b

BASHIR DALHATU
£2.3b
$1.001b
$161m
DM 1.43b

GEN. WASHISHI
£700m
$1.301b

ALHAJI HASSAN ADAMU
£300m
$200m
$700m

T.Y DANJUMA
£1.36b
$1.02b
$300m
DM 190m

GEN. ISHAYA BAMAIYI
£120m
$800m

Sources:
London Times. MOY
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by MarieSucre(f): 12:21am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


If you do not keep up with FACTS, that's your own weakness, ignorance and folly,,.not mine.

My hobby here is to repudiate statements and opinions made from ignorance.

You cannot repudiate without facts.
I am also waiting for the evidence too. Pls could you get it for us?
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 12:23am On May 17, 2016
babadee1:


The president never said the $2.1b was stolen by Dasuki alone. That's the total amount stolen from the defence budget not in one year but over the five years of Jonathan's administration. The Dasuki probe has spread out into all the arms of the military and that is the total amount at stake.

This is a much better argument if true.

But, the President Said on world television that people Sat down like in a dinner table and shared $2.2b, and kept emphasizing it.

And this is my point all along.

Funds were looted.
Exaggerations are unnecessary.

The government does not have to exaggerate and milk it for its shock value.
It undermines their efforts, and some would say, motives.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 12:34am On May 17, 2016
OneManLegion:


Dasuki is the chief defendant here and he has not denied it. He's defense is that he did not embezzle the funds but used it for the weapons he said he needed. This defense has since been torn apart by the prosecutors with the recovery of hundreds of millions of naira from the Arms deal scandal.

Dasuki is now fighting on legalese. He's looking for a loophole to exploit so he can go Scot-free.

You claim the figures don't add up but no media outlet corroborates your fallacious supposition. Not Sahara Reporters, not Premium Times, Not Vanguard Ngr, Not even UK Daily Mail(the unofficial propaganda machine of the PDP in the UK).


The ONSA applied for $2.1b and was given same. I believe they spent a negligible amount therefrom to procure faulty, defective weaponry for the beleaguered soldiers who were endangered while Dasuki and co spent the rest on spiritual consultations(Baffarawa), and other such nonsensical stuffs.


Stop trying to defend the indefensible.

If you think I am trying to defend anything here, then perhaps you have not been paying proper attention to my carefully chosen words.

If you understand a little psychology, you will see the techniques of APC's well oiled propaganda machinery.

They throw shocking figures to the masses, dress it up with suppositions, conjectures and innuendos, and then Viola! The plebeians soak it up hook line and sinker.
Even when the FACTS become evident , they still continue to roll with the shock figures.

Just look at your wild allegations.
The Nigerian army has come up publicly on few occasions to reiterate that at no time were substandard equipment procured to fight Boko haram.
Yet YOU still go to town Hawking the very same LIEs that has been repudiated over and over.

See what I mean?

We have to learn and endeavor to always separate the wheat from the Shaff.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by bigpastor(m): 12:37am On May 17, 2016
But He is working!!!!!!
Donald Trump is also a comedian.
Obama's last speech b4 The journalists saw him as a first class comedian.
Bubu move on we are with you.
No strike on Wednesday bc Bubu is working

TippyTop:
Bubu is a comedian, he went for the wrong profession by joining the army, he woulda been a first class comedian. grin
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 12:37am On May 17, 2016
Apina:

You speak like a philosopher within the confines of "episteme"

Yes Sir, my comrade.
wink

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Nobody: 12:52am On May 17, 2016
whether 2.1 billion or 322 million. A thief is a thief

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by fukmodathndmods: 12:53am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


Comprehension! comprehension !

I don tire.

If $322m is stolen or misappropriated, but our president goes on world television and LIES that $2.1b was shared on dinner table, would you not feel embarrassed ?

Well , I do feel embarrassed.

Funny thing is that he is the mythical guy who is supposed to be honest. undecided

don't mind some folks on NL. this man puts us in a position to be addressed as "fantastically corrupt" everyday, he even goes ahead to call his citizens thief's and fraudsters but when a white man repeats his speech, he and his supporters cry foul. well, obj said it all "buhari is not hot in economic and foreign affairs" that is a subtle way of saying he is clueless but he buhari even makes it worse with spewing lies all over.


modath, check my new acct.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by OneManLegion(m): 12:54am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


If you think I am trying to defend anything here, then perhaps you have not been paying proper attention to my carefully chosen words.

If you understand a little psychology, you will see the techniques of APC's well oiled propaganda machinery.

They throw shocking figures to the masses, dress it up with suppositions, conjectures and innuendos, and then Viola! The plebeians soak it up hook line and sinker.
Even when the FACTS become evident , they still continue to role with the shock figures.

Just look at your wild allegations.
The Nigerian army has come up publicly on few occasions to reiterate that at no time were substandard equipment procured to fight Boko haram.
Yet YOU still go to town Hawking the very same LIEs that has been repudiated over and over.

See what I mean?

We have to learn and endeavor to always separate the wheat from the Shaff.

You keep harping on APC propaganda and whatnot like say opposition nor dey. How come in the whole of Nigeria, only the brilliant Plae.tton on Nairaland has been able to spot this humongous anomally in the computations?

So, the president deceived a whole CNN too abi? Shebi they don't have investigative journalists there?

You're saying the Nigerian Army have denied buying defective weaponry; wait o, were you expecting that they accept? Wouldn't that have been an acquiescence to their culpability? Are you this naïve or you just dey whyne me? Those same army generals that denied it then are now facing colossal corruption charges. Surely you're aware that the top dogs in the military are being investigated for stealing to the nasty tune of several billions of naira?

Where were you when the Nigerian airforce had a jet that crashed that they couldn't even find?!

Were you around during the excruciating period, that period of national disgrace where the nation was combing the bushes for their spoilt war jets even as the Boko Haram were severely routing the Nigerian army?

And were you around to feel the pains of betrayal when the jet was found and it was discovered to have faulty rotors?

Did you come to Nairaland to, in your perfect grammar, vent your rage over the consummate inefficacy that the incidence represented?

Since APC, through Buhari, dropped the shocking bombshell about the $2.1b that was diverted, you're the only one who claims it's a propaganda. Dasuki accepted that he got $2.1b but claims that he bought weapons with them.

Oya, wow me again. I know people like you who are deeply mired in their delusions are masters of the art of shifting narratives.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by joegigs(m): 12:55am On May 17, 2016
please can some1 enlighten me whose d PDP dats been looting is? is it d igbos ? or hause n Yoruba? cos if am not mistaken southeast haven't smellen dat seat.so if anyboby is looting ,it is u guys dat is looting urselfs.so u guys shouldn't blame Igbo's 4 ur mistakes .dasuki gate na una product

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by brookz: 12:56am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:
The man can lie.
Agreed, ur dad is d greatest Liar. ode lyk u.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by babadee1(m): 12:56am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


This is a much better argument if true.

But, the President Said on world television that people Sat down like in a dinner table and shared $2.2b, and kept emphasizing it.

And this is my point all along.

Funds were looted.
Exaggerations are unnecessary.

The government does not have to exaggerate and milk it for its shock value.
It undermines their efforts, and some would say, motives.

It's not an exaggeration. Think of it more as a metaphor or a figure of speech to illustrate the nonchalance of the people who stole such humongous amounts wily nily with no fear of consequences or repercussions. Those people are the problem not what the president said.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by seunajia: 1:03am On May 17, 2016
plaetton has always been a knucklehead, IDK why you guys engage him. Let him continue to revel in his pain and misery because Nigerians rejected Jonathan. We of course know we don't want kleptomaniacs, iPods and their supporters close to public office. They're rejected outcasts. Cockroaches!

Buhari fire on jore, however, know surely, we go commot ladder for your own leg too if you fcvk up.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 1:15am On May 17, 2016
seunajia:
plaetton has always been a knucklehead, IDK why you guys engage him. Let him continue to revel in his pain and misery because Nigerians rejected Jonathan. We of course know we don't want kleptomaniacs, iPods and their supporters close to public office. They're rejected outcasts. Cockroaches!

Buhari fire on jore, however, know surely, we go commot ladder for your own leg too if you fcvk up.

Lol.
Tinubu had always been a knuckle head to the GEJ administration.
And I had great respects for him for providing a virile opposition in our democratic journey.

Problem now is that APC , even after winning the elections, is still acting like an opposition party, depending heavily on propaganda and shock to justify its own existence.

Hilarious.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by seunajia: 1:21am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


Lol.
Tinubu had always been a knuckle head to the GEJ administration.
And I had great respects for him for providing a virile opposition in our democratic journey.

Problem now is that APC , even after winning the elections, is still acting like an opposition party, depending heavily on propaganda and shock to justify its own existence.

Hilarious.

I have no time to entertain your nonsense. I'm not a Tinubu fan. Thieves must be tried, shamed and jailed. Get rid of yourself if you can't stand that. Nay, shout yourself hoarse on nairaland.

Eat sheet.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 1:25am On May 17, 2016
seunajia:


I have no time to entertain your nonsense. I'm not a Tinubu fan. Thieves must be tried, shamed and jailed. Get rid of yourself if you can't stand that. Nay, shout yourself hoarse on nairaland.

Eat sheet.

Thanks for for answering " present ".

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by seunajia: 1:32am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


Thanks for for answering " present ".

Says the lad that just had sheet. Fvck off binch!

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Babacele: 2:23am On May 17, 2016
sammhi:

if pmb says that ..it is very unpresidential..it just shows how hollow he is
reverse it..will Obama or Cameron come here to poke fun at the ills of his country that he is trying to resolve? never
very low mentality for a president to utter such ... secretly, they will laugh behind him at his foolishness
pmb most times shows the mentality of a low class ,unenlightened individuals ....poor carriage..maybe that is why obj says Pmb is not hot in foreign affairs
not a laughing matter , omenka ..it is actually depressing
in Fela's voice: "which kind tin be dis o.i never hear this kind tin before ooo: my people are useless, my people are indiscipline ..na animal talk bi dat"
omenka will never say that, never! so stop trying to legitimize your ipobmadness by quoting Omenka.....u go collect e-slap sef for being this lo and mischievous.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by ledaman: 2:37am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:
The man can lie.
I pray boko haram visit your family then you will know maybe he is lying.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by ledaman: 2:41am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:
There has been Zero evidence, Zilch, that anyone collected $2.1b and misappropriated, let alone shared.

Infact, the entire Nigerian defence budget lies in that neighborhood, and has hardly ever exceeded that amount in any given year.

To say that they collected and shared $2.1b is equivalent to saying that some group of people looted the entire Nigerian defence budget ,,. Which is a boldface LIE.

The NSA, under Dasuki, misappropriated , according to publicly available records, about $322m or so.

Yet, everyday, the propaganda machinery keeps pumping out $2.1b theft.
But the fact still remains funds were stolen.
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Babacele: 2:48am On May 17, 2016
MarieSucre:

You cannot repudiate without facts. I am also waiting for the evidence too. Pls could you get it for us?
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Babacele: 2:49am On May 17, 2016
MarieSucre:


You cannot repudiate without facts.
I am also waiting for the evidence too. Pls could you get it for us?
oh Jeez I never knew you understand my deep frustration when he couldn't repudiate with facts but keep mentioning the word' facts 'as if that is all one needs anytime facts about a thing are required. the dasukigate goes beyond dasuki alone but he is just d fulcrum: apart NOI $322m which was outside the 2015 budget for d office of d NSA, plus previous budgets e.g in 2014 about N110bn was budgeted to that office(both rec current and capital expenditure). and several other funds that they never wanted the public to know about until Buhari came on stage...so tell me y should i believe those who refused to equip our soldiers for BH to kill them easily like goats ;and who would have murdered the soldiers by labelling them mutineers for demanding a better condition especially when provisions were made in the national budgets for such demands? Y should I doubt Buhari who has a wider view of this official crime against the Nigerian state until proven wrong by time? time will tell.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Babacele: 2:57am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


This is a much better argument if true.

But, the President Said on world television that people Sat down like in a dinner table and shared $2.2b, and kept emphasizing it.

And this is my point all along.

Funds were looted.
Exaggerations are unnecessary.

The government does not have to exaggerate and milk it for its shock value.
It undermines their efforts, and some would say, motives.
figures of speech are meant for a purpose : to make people understand better the meaning of words. No matter how the president said it ,the fact remains that people shared 2.1 b public money which is criminal...so let the criminals defend themselves or if you have all the evidence with dates, places and figures to put a lie to the president's claim please do not hesitate Mr Devil's Advocate.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by NavierStokes(m): 3:09am On May 17, 2016
Calebsky:


This is the true picture. Dasuki was unilaterally empowered by the previous administration while running legitimate errands for his boss.

The president had a "legitimate" right to make his security spend as he seems for.
Buhari should tell us if he has not made any 'security" spends since he got into office, despite the almost 57 billion budgeted to his ONSA.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 3:33am On May 17, 2016
Babacele:
figures of speech are meant for a purpose : to make people understand better the meaning of words. No matter how the president said it ,the fact remains that people shared 2.1 b public money which is criminal...so let the criminals defend themselves or if you have all the evidence with dates, places and figures to put a lie to the president's claim please do not hesitate Mr Devil's Advocate.

Babacele,

You never tire ?
Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by plaetton: 3:39am On May 17, 2016
Babacele:
oh Jeez I never knew you understand my deep frustration when he couldn't repudiate with facts but keep mentioning the word' facts 'as if that is all one needs anytime facts about a thing are required. the dasukigate goes beyond dasuki alone but he is just d fulcrum: apart NOI $322m which was outside the 2015 budget for d office of d NSA, plus previous budgets e.g in 2014 about N110bn was budgeted to that office(both rec current and capital expenditure). and several other funds that they never wanted the public to know about until Buhari came on stage...so tell me y should i believe those who refused to equip our soldiers for BH to kill them easily like goats ;and who would have murdered the soldiers by labelling them mutineers for demanding a better condition especially when provisions were made in the national budgets for such demands? Y should I doubt Buhari who has a wider view of this official crime against the Nigerian state until proven wrong by time? time will tell.
Babacele,

You provided the FACTS yourself when you posted all the efcc charges against Dasuki.

The charges and sums speak for themselves.
You had scored an own goal.

What else did you want me to add?

This is why I kept hammering on comprehension comprehension.

Even though you have made my case for me all by yourself, you're still pretending that you don't understand what my point has been all along.

You're annoyance is that I am making the point, not that I wrong.

I tire for una.

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Re: After Watching Buhari On CNN, I Can't Stop Laughing by Babacele: 3:48am On May 17, 2016
plaetton:


Babacele,

You never tire ?
the love for Nigeria be like when u first meet a sweet 16 that was unconventionally intelligent, clean ,athletic ,sexy, calm,ambitious and inquisitive...ol boy can anything in ds world tire you from walking her from Kano to Lagos ? where that kind energy dey come from sef? I go even give her a piggyback sef if she could no longer walk; do her dishes, fix her a meal , massage her legs n shoulders to free her of stress ,solve maths for her, lull her to sleep n won't even ask her for s.x but wd only beg for a peck ...call me mumu but na so I b.

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