deedeedee1:

Wow!!! This is excellent! I must say that i am really impressed by what you wrote. I believe biafra will do well and much better than nigeria.

Original Igbo Man. Have. You botherd to do a study on East Timor? If you can add Eritrea, Comoros, south Sudan to it. Compare them to Pakistan. The world has changed. Countries. Don just allow a part of them go and say bye bye... you must have an umbilical cord tied permanently to the parent country. it's the new world order. By the time Spain is done fixing it's plans, Catalunia can be created. The same thing as Taiwan. You just see one fake example. You just got impressed. What is impressive about a guy not following development in international politics and diplomacy?

deomelo:



Like I said, stop forming and misappropriating words that you don't even know how to spell.

The spelling is actually correct, but your point is passed though.

I think Many Igbos understand the inherent danger that IPOB and ultimate secession poses to them and their livelihoods, but are banking on the fact that it wouldn't become reality.
They are therefore using the whole IPOB and biafra thing as a leverage to remain relevant within the Nigerian scape. Many of the younger ones among them are even using it to have fun and chest beat thinking its all "interesting" and stuff that they locked down onitsha head bridge.

Until reality dawns and they start running helter skelter and calling for some kind of agreement with Nigeria... which by then would very likely be too late.

plaetton:

Lol.
If that's the way you understand it, then it's surely not my fault.

Many Nigerians reside in neighboring and outside countries as either legal residents, illegal residents or dual citizens.
Likewise, many people of other nationalities also reside in Nigeria as legal residents or citizens..

It is quite stuuupid to think or suggest that Biafra, if and when recognized as a sovereign country, would be an exception to the rule.

Nigeria has the right to make biafra. an exception. things don't just happen based on your own assumptions

conductor2:

We are ready, as long the brown roof republic is ready to welcome all their own deportees seeking refuge in Italy, Brazil, etc.

This postxm begs for some sense.

Billyonaire:
You need to master my lexicons, but stay within the parabola of our discussions. LOL

Patrick Obahiagbon?
Is that you?

azimibraun:
South Sudan hurriedly pursued independence. They got it without proper planning. They thought they had the oil, but they forgot the whole channel of getting oil out of their part of Sudan depends on the main Sudan. Now heavy taxing and trade and transport conditions from the main Sudan wants to kill them. The main Sudan now make oil money without owning oil. They own the transport route and infrastructure. South Sudan want to die but they have to live with it. Biafra will depend grossly on Nigeria. Stay in Nigeria with respect or beg to survive in Biafra

True!! South Sudan was so eager to be free, that it did not think critically of what would happen to its people and its' revenue from oil, which was still firmly dependent on its parent country. They made the mistake of leaving their infrastructure to chance. I hope the pro-Biafra agitators would learn from the experience of South Sudan.

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The U.K leaving the E.U is purely economic & has nothing to do with cessation or independence what the u.k is doing is leaving the E.U economic bloc its not a physical move, its idealistic! They are reverting back to pre E.U era of Economics & politics in the U.K it has nothing with driving away U.K citizens in Europe its a different case with the so called biafra motive.If biafra will leave it will be entirely different from this.

kingzizzy:


If you take Britain that just left the EU, over 3 million EU citizens in the UK. Will Britain deport them? No, not really.

In the event of Biafra seceding from Nigeria, both sides will have to discuss the sharing of assets, liabilities and debts. This means that there will be a discussion on 'Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens. A 'transition period' will have to be agreed on to allow the agreemwnts take effect


It is not likely that Nigeria will start deporting all Igbos straightaway as this could illegal under international law. Another reason why Nigeria wont do this is because it will damage Nigeria and the Nigerian economy irreparably before the international community. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again when hear that Nigeria deported millions of people it once called brothers.

Such mass deportations only destroys the credibility of a country

menxer:


You are reasoning from the point of hate, don't forget by then international diplomacy would play its role as Nigeria would be dealing with Biafra as a sovereign nation and all the diplomatic abracadabra would play out.

You are correct on the latter point but then, their approach caused the hatred, not so ?

EvilMetahuman:
Patrick Obahiagbon?
Is that you?

HAHAHAHAHA

EvilMetahuman:
Patrick Obahiagbon?
Is that you?

On point, that is why I told a friend of mine to be careful for what they wish for

AworiLagosian:
I think Many Igbos understand the inherent danger that IPOB and ultimate secession poses to them and their livelihoods, but are banking on the fact that it wouldn't become reality.
They are therefore using the whole IPOB and biafra thing as a leverage to remain relevant within the Nigerian scape. Many of the younger ones among them are even using it to have fun and chest beat thinking its all "interesting" and stuff that they locked down onitsha head bridge.

Until reality dawns and they start running helter skelter and calling for some kind of agreement with Nigeria... which by then would very likely be too late.

deomelo:




What's the difference?


Even with your biafra or ipob, you still don't have any sense of identity or belonging.

Dear Nematode,

Please focus on the objects and subjects of the thread.

Nigeria needs Biafra but Biafra does not need Nigeria, that is why y'all are crying for Biafra to stay.

Sincerely,

Billyonaire
Biafran-Nigerian as at Today. I can change my mind tomorrow.

najoke:

Sign of defeat…… they shout Afonjaaaaa when they are clueless and have nothing inteligent to say

he was only being sarcastic. no be so?@mujtahida

kingzizzy:


If you take Britain that just left the EU, over 3 million EU citizens in the UK. Will Britain deport them? No, not really.

In the event of Biafra seceding from Nigeria, both sides will have to discuss the sharing of assets, liabilities and debts. This means that there will be a discussion on 'Biafra/Nigeria' reltionship and the status of its citizens. A 'transition period' will have to be agreed on to allow the agreemwnts take effect


It is not likely that Nigeria will start deporting all Igbos straightaway as this could illegal under international law. Another reason why Nigeria wont do this is because it will damage Nigeria and the Nigerian economy irreparably before the international community. No international investor will ever step foot in Nigeria ever again when hear that Nigeria deported millions of people it once called brothers.

Such mass deportations only destroys the credibility of a country

Please stop that dream, for the sake of your adrenalin.

Misterdhee1:

Your comparism doesn't not hold water. Nigeria didn't secede from the UK or any of the countries you mentioned. And if you really want to make comparison, cite examples like China-Taiwan, Sudan-South Sudan ties. Stop making it seem like all of you are daft.

Again, repeating it for the 4th time today, no one seems willing to read , understand and respond to an issue in the proper context without throwing in a hypothetical situation as a rebuttal.

Nome of all of you guys have made any points to refute the facts I presented.
Is there an ECOWAS treaty or not ?
Is Nigeria not a signatory to it or not?
The answers to the above vindicates me.

If Nigeria decides to be an ECOWAS renegade, that's another topic altogether.

However, you're all hung up on the your envisaged and hypothetical projection that Nigeria would or should RENEGE on its ECOWAS treaty obligations, which itself is a completely different topic by itself.

This is the single simple point that you and others miss?

laudate:


Bros, grow up. Nobody is reasoning from a position of hate. We are just telling you the reality on the ground. You know very little about international law and diplomacy, to think that pressure can be brought to bear on a sovereign country on how it conducts its internal affairs with regard to immigration. Prior to 1976, Nigerians as well as other commonwealth citizens did not need a visa to visit the united Kingdom. All that changed, when the UK govt enacted new laws to prevent the influx of immigrants. What did the international community do about it? Nothing.

There are several other countries that have changed their immigration policy to suit their socio-economic reality. What has the international community done about it? Zero. Were you not on this planet when Saudi Arabia refused to receive fellow Middle-Eastern neighbours from Syria and other war-torn areas, into its borders? What did the rest of the world do? They allowed Saudi Arabia to have its own way.

Nigeria is a signatory to a lot of international treaties. How many has it domesticated locally? Even the ones it has domesticated, how many have been complied with? Continue to bank on international diplomacy to resolve issues, that cannot be backed up by any means of enforcement. I laugh in Cantonese!!

If you want to establish diplomatic relations with another country, and that nation refuses to recognise you or to agree to establish relations with your country, what will you do? Are you going to hold a gun to their heads to do so? You are now banking on the rest of the world to use diplomacy to fight the cause of your Biafran citizens within Nigeria, the same way you chaps thought that Trump would support your plans for secession. Una well done!

Succinct.

najoke:

Sign of defeat…… they shout Afonjaaaaa when they are clueless and have nothing inteligent to say

That's why I propose that we own this afonja title. Embrace it. If you want to fight someone and he takes a bottle and breaks it on his own head, what would you do?

I am not Yoruba sef but all Nigerians are now Afonjaaaaa so I guess that makes me one.


I am a Nigerian, an afonja and I love ewedu!!!

ProWalker:


The scenario you created above is on the basis that such cessation of relationship is on amicable ground, which I doubt with all these bad blood getting to boiling point at the moment. Personally I don't think the Yorubas will be as forgiven and accommodating as the last time.

Lai lai. Koju maribi . . .
Once beaten, twice shy.

plaetton:
Again, repeating it for the 4th time today, no one seems willing to read , understand and respond to an issue in the proper context without throwing in a hypothetical situation as a rebuttal.

Nome of all of you guys have made any points to refute the facts I presented.
Is there an ECOWAS treaty or not ?
Is Nigeria not a signatory to it or not?
The answers to the above vindicates me.

If Nigeria decides to be an ECOWAS renegade, that's another topic altogether.

However, you're all hung up on the your envisaged and hypothetical projection that Nigeria would or should RENEGE on its ECOWAS treaty obligations, which itself is a completely different topic by itself.

This is the single simple point that you and others miss?

Guy, you are still missing the point. Please go back and get a copy of the ECOWAS Protocol on Free Movement of Persons and read it thoroughly. Pay special attention to Article 4, which still gives member states the right to refuse entry to any citizen of another state, based on its' internal laws.

The United Nations will never support further balkanization of African states in Africa! Period, They will rather support that Nigeria ratifies her constitution & strengthens her institutions, through monitoring of our democratic processes & technical support to achieve high levels of equity & justice, if Nigeria were to break up it was supposed to be 10years ago. But not today.

Billyonaire:


Point Number 1: I am not an Igbo man, I am from the SS. Yes, I am a proud SS man, so I always tell people that I come from Oil. Now you know, that you have not be chatting with an Igbo man. So you see, I represent the real Biafran without the emotions of Ojukwu and the myopia of Nnamdi Kanu. I represent the other echelon that is erudite enough to research on an Economic Blueprint of how a country should work. I only invested my time to engage in this conversation because I HAVE TIME TO WASTE.

Our legislators are greedy just like your legislators. We do not even want any legislator that served in this corrupt Nigeria to hold any position in the JEWISH Republic of Biafra (hahahaha I like that JEWISH in the name). So, you see, Biafra will be a country dedicated to God. It will be a vibrant 21st century country powered by the finest brains.

Join me in thanking the LORD, for our Kingdom is about to come. hahahahahah

laudate:


True!! South Sudan was so eager to be free, that it did not think critically of what would happen to its people and its' revenue from oil, which was still firmly dependent on its parent country. They made the mistake of leaving their infrastructure to chance. I hope the pro-Biafra agitators would learn from the experience of South Sudan.

Salva Kiir Mayardit the current President of South Sudan was just like Nnamdi Kanu. He decieved the country into a rushed independence. What did he do afterwards? He became the country's President, started buying the best Vehicles money could buy, he even ensured his picture was put on their currency. Today south sudanese are in the worst state of living the never thought of. Life was better for them in the main Sudan. One Man greed has led to the death of several thousand and counting. Kanu could just be a devil sent to come and destroy these innocent folks.

azimibraun:
Original Igbo Man. Have. You botherd to do a study on East Timor? If you can add Eritrea, Comoros, south Sudan to it. Compare them to Pakistan. The world has changed. Countries. Don just allow a part of them go and say bye bye... you must have an umbilical cord tied permanently to the parent country. it's the new world order. By the time Spain is done fixing it's plans, Catalunia can be created. The same thing as Taiwan. You just see one fake example. You just got impressed. What is impressive about a guy not following development in international politics and diplomacy?

But the country was created by the British. Why cant you allow the igbos go? What exactly are you benefiting from them? Since stopping them 50 years ago, how has nigeria been since then? Does nigeria have good health care system, good roads, good education? What exactly did you benefit in stopping them 50 years ago? Since the igbos feel they can do better by themselves why not allow them go? And baba i am not igbo but i support them to have their country since they have the confidence that they will do better on their own. I really love their confidence and with such confidence, i must say the sky is the limit for them. I believe believe biafra will be a successful country.

freshest4live:

It's not as easy as you make it though, especially if the Nigerian Government is antagonistic towards Biafra, this is why Nnamdi kanu's method is unreasonable, calling Nigeria a zoo to get Biafra is not the right step, his agitation should have been centered on referendum alone putting pressure on the lgbo leaders and lnternational community rather than declaring for arms(guns and bullets) and referring to Nigeria as a zoo. He's making it seem he is ready for war thereby making enemies of the same Nigerian Government that could make the Biafra dream come true easily.

Plus openly asking his followers to attack and kill other tribes that have accommodated them for decades for no justifiable reason.

kingzizzy:


East Timor is an example of a country that seceded from a bigger country and still managed to survive. I used it as an example to show that a country can many challenges after secession but they are not insurmountable.

When it comes to the issue of Biafra, Biafra is actually one of the most peaceful movements for freedom and self determination in the world, it has always been that way. It is you Nigerians that bring death, violence and war into the issue of Biafra.

Take Ojukwu for example. Ojukwu recieved a mandate from the Eastern Nigeria consultative assembly to declare the Easter Region a separate country, which he did. Gowon could have asked for meeting with Ojukwu to resolve the Biafran issue, he could have gone for a referendum. Of all the peaceful options Gowon could have gone for, he chose war as his first resort instead of the last. It was you Nigerians that came down to the East where people were enjoying their new found freedom and started shooting. How did you people think you would achieve 'one Nigeria' by killing millions?

Now, Kanu and IPOB are once again asking for referendum within the SS/SE to allow those who are tired of 'one Nigeria' to go their way. Again, you Nigerians are beating war drums despite that the agitators have not killed or harmed anybody. Infact, it is your Nigerian security agents who have shot and killed them.

All this talk about Judiciary, tax, health policy etc you mentioned is not new to Biafra. Have we forgotten that Biafra maintained all these policies and intitutions despite fighting a war? Is it in now that Biafrans can no longer do it again? When Biafra is declared, Biafra can have a national conference and decide any outstanding issue

I will never understand you Nigerians always looking fir war just because Lord Lugard told you all we are one

I appreciate your response. What irks my soul is the fact that we were negotiating with Boko Haram terrorist, yet when Nnamdi Kanu came into Nigeria he was arrested and put into Kuje gulag. Nooo! I know truth when I see one and I know injustice when I see it too. Nobody tried to understand his pain. That's not fair. At all.

Listen everybody Our enemies are the politicians, all of them. Not the ordinary igbo Hausa, Yoruba, Tiv, Efik, Ogoja, Ijaw, Igala, Itshekiri etc Death to all our accursed politicians. I have promised myself that should anything start in this country the arms I would bear would not be against anybody but against our politicians, the bullet I will shoot will be against politicians, all of them including the ones from my state. Bunch of criminal reprobates who have wasted this nation.

I am not your enemy and you are not mine. Ndo
Cheers

Rmxr:


Bro, nothing irks me more than seeing Yorubas kicking against the agitation of these people. It's pathetic bro. People who do that disgust me. We need to start calling them out

Seconded. I hate to hear a yoruba go against biafra agitation. I can't stomach it !

DerideGull:


Is Biafra gaining independence from Nigeria? When did Nigeria become a colonial master? Any Igbo man who chooses to remain in Nigeria, if Nigeria stays intact, has every right as a Nigeria.

that would have been okay if not for the name calling and Inccessant insults you dish out on other nigerians. your leader called us zoo animals and castigated many tribes in Nigeria. you can't expect us to be that nice to you. our relationship will be like that of Israel and Iran or North Korea and South Korea

ESDKING:


But you said u re igbo or are suffering from identity crisis ?.

Afonja, keep having nightmares over people who don't give a fuccck about u.

As if anybody gives a Bleep about flattinos who are yet to shed 17th century cocoon.

laudate:


Guy, did you ever read that book by Harold Robbins, the fifth-best-selling fiction author of all time who is estimated to have sold 750 million copies of his works? It was called 'Dreams Die First.' It is good to see people like you who would rather buy into an illusion, instead of waking up to reality.

I rather die in my biafran dream than waking up to face this cesspit ruled by braindead animals

Billyonaire:


Dear Nematode,

Please focus on the objects and subjects of the thread.

Nigeria needs Biafra but Biafra does not need Nigeria, that is why y'all are crying for Biafra to stay.

Sincerely,

Billyonaire
Biafran-Nigerian as at Today. I can change my mind tomorrow.

I was expecting sane and rational views and not the same meaningless, empty and shallow chest beating.

Rossikki:
The Biafra thing will be a disaster for the average Igbo guy, who will just turn to a local champion.

No more shuttling around Naija. Once you leave Owerri, Enugu, Aba, Onitsha etc, you are a marked man. You enter Jos, trouble. Find yourself in Benin, wahala. Kaduna, forget it. Abuja, who dash you? Lagos, the worst. Na bulala dem go take drive you.

Are you guys really ready for that kind of life?

Are you sermonizing now ? Please let them go.
We've had more than enough of them already.