mars123:
The ignorant folks here supporting this nonsense, I forgive your stupidity but the fact that Fashola thinks this makes sense is completely shameful.

An ignorant man calling informed people correcting him ignorant.
Understand the politics now. We have to sell power to them because if we don't, they will be forced to dam river Niger from there end in order to generate hydroelectricity and since the water flow to our dams is from there end due to the elevation, no water will be getting to our dams that can generate reasonable electricity and so our dams will be starved of water so we won't be able to generate power. So to discourage them from doing that, we have to sell power to them.

Testimony!!
For the first 8months I hv been in Benin Rep. There has never been blackout, that was 6yrs ago. Till date there can only be blackout when there is a stormy weather/ rain. From month to month, there will be blackout 4 only about 6hrs and that's because of weather or faulty areas. There was I time when the transformer that supplies us power in my area blown up, me being a Nigerian thought that light has gone 4ever in that my area, this happened at midnight, I woke up d next morning, carry all rechargeable appliances to my office because I don't hv a generator. Could u believe that wen I came bk from work, I saw light, I went to the place d transformer was, and behold a new one being installed. I weeped 4 Nigeria. Had it been in Lagos or Onitsha where I hv lived b4, all d houses must contribute 4 a new transformer which will take generation to fix.
What am I trying to say, until when Nig govt stop playing politics with everything, they will never get it rite. Roads built here stay as long as 20yrs without repair, but in Nig, roads don't last more than 2yrs it will become unmotorable . Nig govt is never serious when it comes to infrastructural development, they want to promise u good roads and electricity in every of their campaign. May God help d masses.

the statement is true but my concern is what effort has government made to stabilize our country electricity?

mikkypel:


Don't mind the retarded fool.... I just don't know why youths of nowadays can't argue without insults.. It shows the way they were brought up and the type of education gotten

And you still insulted him. SmH

Why are we not thinking of other means of adding power to our grid? What happens to solar? In developed countries they make use of every means. Why can't we think outside the box?

Blue3k:


Explain what you would do in this situation if they decide to block river.



I guess they'll take a fistful of cash maybe. They need the power as much we do to develop.

But how do you block a river like that without untold ecological catastrophe. Think about what you're saying for a minute. Blocking that river will flood an area the size of Benin republic within 9 months. Not having anything about these thoughtless agreements drawn up decades ago but we should have moved past that by now and thus government has the opportunity to bring about change not excusing it.

ElSherriff:
Fashola we trusted you, now you are spewing this nonsense? Which dam? ehn? stop selling to them, when they overflow the dam, sanction them. sell something else not what you do not have in abundance.

What is this one saying

Fashola is speaking English. That one is a cover up for the cabals enriching their pockets with the generators imported on a daily and fuel Nigerians burn their hard earned money for.

They are all incompetent fools

Ehiscotch:

I should not be replying you because you obviously failed to read or understand or both.
The rivers from which water is flowing into our dam is situated in some of these countries and in order to prevent blockage and to keep the river flowing into our dams we need to sort of give them an incentive or some sort of compensation so we make them pay for the electricity just as you and I also pay.

Oga ur claim of Blockage is lame, the river is nature's gift and has a course, they can't block the river, except the block the source. The source of the river is from Guinea and runs through Mali, Niger, Benin, Nigeria and terminates into the Atlantic. So no country can lay claim to ownership neither can they block it's flow.

Reference:


But how do you block a river like that without untold ecological catastrophe. Think about what you're saying for a minute. Blocking that river will flood an area the size of Benin republic within 9 months. Not having anything about these thoughtless agreements drawn up decades ago but we should have moved past that by now and thus government has the opportunity to bring about change not excusing it.

You are a fool. He meant "explain what you will do if they build their own dam" do you know what a dam is? Okay if you don't know, when they build a dam, they would control the flow and use the water velocity to generate light. By the time the water gets to Nigeria, it would not flow as thick and fast as it is currently thereby reducing the electricity we can get from it.

We should renegotiate? They are so wise like you that they will collect money so they can put the money inside their TVs and Globes? Or maybe we should give the fuel, they can buy a giant generator for their whole country? Old mumu

TheMortician:
All these ignorant softheads here defending Nigeria giving electricity to insignificant countries like Niger and Benin should cover their heads in shame. What's a archaic kanji dam still doing in service when we know it can't even power all of Lagos sufficiently?

Countries are investing in nuclear generation of power like South Africa which was already producing above 40 thousands mega watt before embarking on building nuclear plants. Nigeria can only boast of 4 thousand mega watt and still selling electricity to her neighbours when she's already carrying ECOWAS services, logistics and dues of the region on her shoulders.

Niger republic's economic is dependent on the Cotonou border and the trade that goes on their. Can't Nigeria leverage on that?

Dumb move from dumb leaders!

Seems like you are the ignorant softhead here or maybe you need to work on your comprehension skill

ridbay:


YNAIJA

Bollocks!!!

How does that even make any sense......

Sell to them, and give this country power.....its not rocket science.

The so-called distribution companies have dameged what was an already messed up sector.

All my life its been hydro......y isn't d govmnt looking into solar energy like Berlin, or fossils, even nuclear like most western countries.......

These people think we r dumb......

People, forget Fashola and Nigeria Government, Start to Generate your own Electric Power either via Solar Generator or Bio Gas Powered Mechanical Generator.
Must a man or set of people control our destiny?

kuuljay:
doesn't work that way bro, just google Ethiopia and Egypt tussle over Nile and educate yourself,nobody owns a river,na the one wet pass inside your land be your own,you can even block it if you have the means Eno concern anybody

If a river is international river(a river that pass more than one country), then you can't block it. The international law prohibit it.

You can build a Dam, but the Dam is prohibited by international law from blocking all the water from reaching other countries.

Peace!

Proudlyngwa:

If Nigeria blocks the river Niger from flowing into the Atlantic Ocean, Nigeria will get flooded and nothing will happen to those other countries, am laughing uncontrollably here at your stupidity.

if u don't get it ask for clarification. I di nzuzu

People were oblivious of an agreement between the French colonial authority and the British colonial government of Nigeria in 1955 when the British was proposing to dam river Niger and about the same time the French colonial authority wanted it for Niger and other French territories under their control because River Niger from the Futa jallon hill flow through the French territory to Nigeria. Thence an agreement was reached to supply Niger through Brininkebi
Most people don't know that Kainji Dam was not the project of independent Nigeria except that when we got Independence we muddled up a Power station which was proposed for 1200 MW by the colonial authority and we could only achieve 320 MW in 1969 and that was when Gowon said " Money is not our problem but how to spend it" and see where we are today.
It will be recalled that a similar British colonial master in the Old Gold Coast commenced a similar Hydro project for which Kwame Nkrumah completed at their Independent with 1000MW Akosombo Dam and whereas in the Nigerian case we were able to do just 320 MW out of 1200MW.

Why do you mind those fake intelligent faceless e-warriors . All they think about is how to defend the failings of every govt . I still believe successive govt have all sworn to never allow us be self sufficient without needing to buy fuel for generators. They know with electricity, Nigerians will be too powerful than politicians if not they can negotiate something else with those poor nations that will take something else if offered

mars123:
how much MW are we generating? It isn't enough for you and I but our government is willing to share to other countries for money? This is not how countries that want to advance behave. It is laxity to agree to such demand.

No wonder Nigerians are suffering. We have a very poor thinking government. A government that doesn't care for its people. Do you think if Aso rock depended on that current its giving out, it will continue to give it out? But because its Nigerians that need it right?

Ehiscotch:
What if they create their very own dams ?
That invariably puts an end to project Kanji Dam

So ar u trying to say, sir, that if a dam is constructed before Kainji dam that Kainji would not be able to generate electricity again? In other words u would mean that if I choose to build another dam just before Lokoja for instance that it won't be able to function because of Kaniji that is there before it? Is it ur point or am I misunderstanding u, sir?

Blue3k:


Explain what you would do in this situation if they decide to block river.



I guess they'll take a fistful of cash maybe. They need the power as much we do to develop.

Boss, do u mean that if Niger should construct a dam now, that it will block the river and Kainji would not be able to function again?

realjoker:
Seems like you are the ignorant softhead here or maybe you need to work on your comprehension skill

My point is, since Nigeria barely has enough electricity for itself why not use her economic power in the subregion to negotiate other ways of compensation instead of selling what she doesn't have? (2) The honourable minister wasn't even taking about alternative source of power generation when other African countries with less electricity demand have gone nuclear. But he was still hitting on kanji dam which is as useless as our independence.

when magnified idiots like you grace the Internet, they often critique people's submission without facts. And you wonder why the only interview you have ever been invited for since your everlasting joblessness is for the possition of a mortuary attendant.

You're the brain-damaged, barely-literate Nairaland foremost nuisance who goes about arguing out of point and logic in all front page thread on this forum. Whenever you're outclassed and out-fact, you veer into non-topic to save face which only makes you appear stupider than you began.

Seems you're looking for your oblique destiny in Nairaland.
Air-headed simpleton

Nigeria should not allow herself to be cowed by those tiny countries, Egypt warn countries sharing the Nile that anyone that tempers with the River has declared war against her. that's how a strong and patriotic country acts. those countries due to their threat have relatively stable power supply while we wallow in total darkness.

Lies and Propaganda...


Nothing More.

TheMortician:
My point is, since Nigeria barely has enough electricity for itself why not use her economic power in the subregion to negotiate other ways of compensation instead of selling what she doesn't have? (2) The honourable minister wasn't even taking about alternative source of power generation when other countries with less electricity demand has gone nuclear. But he was still hitting on kanji dam which is as useless as our independence.

when magnified idiots like you grace the Internet, they often critique people's submission without facts. And you wonder why the only interview you have ever been invited for since your everlasting joblessness is for the possition of a mortuary attendant.

Air-headed simpleton

And where are your own facts? None.


If you are going to criticize and call other people names, common sense and basic prudence dictates that you clearly articulate solutions or state specifically what the government should have done to placate her neighbors and even the fact that you are a powerful neighbor doesb't mean you can dictate to them. They are doing you a favor, not the other way around and they are even paying billions for the same favor.

Are you even sure they did not try to appease them in other ways?

Simpleton is written all over you.

deomelo:



And where are your own facts? None.


If you are going to criticize and call other people names, common sense and basic prudence dictates that you clearly articulate solutions or state specifically what the government should have done to placate her neighbors and even the fact that you are a powerful neighbor doesb't mean you can dictate to them. They are doing you a favor, not the other way around and they are even paying billions for the same favor.

Are you even sure they did not try to appease them in other ways?

Simpleton is written all over you.

I think I have stated the Cotonou borders which actually makes up a significant chunk of Benin's economy is a way to go. I remember when Obasanjo closed that aspect of that border, the Nigerien President was in Abuja pleading his heart out.

I also stated the ECOWAS regional block is also an effective tool where Nigeria shoulders the running and servicing of this regional body.

I also stated Nigeria should invest in nuclear power generation as south Africa and Egypt have done.

If I may add here, what about the other 2 dams Nigeria still have? Kainji dam only supplies about 500 megawatts of electricity. This 40 year old dam is long over due for an upgrade with bigger and more powerful turbines!

And yes, bigger countries dictate to smaller countries every day. It is called diplomatic pressure in geopolitics.
You're an alexithymic buffoon who isn't worth his weight in white garri. A sad example for internet.

Your self-esteem must really have the lifespan of your data subscription.

Highly recommended ignoramus!

TheMortician:
The honourable minister wasn't even taking about alternative source of power generation when other African countries with less electricity demand have gone nuclear. But he was still hitting on kanji dam which is as useless as our independence.

Do you mind listing the African countries?


Stop spewing ignorant rubbish.

deomelo:



Do you mind listing the African countries?


Stop spewing ignorant rubbish.

South Africa is building two giant nuclear plants.
And she's already having over 40,000 megawatts with 53 million people while Nigeria is just 4,000 with 180 million population
Your ignorance is truly exemplary!

@ Deomelo, have you checked if south Africa is building nuclear power plants yet?

Did you know Nigeria had a contract with Russia under GEJ administration for similar projects but was later jettisoned or stalled?

Read una no go read , na to come Nairaland come disgrace una backwater education naim una sabi

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TheMortician:
I think I have stated, the Cotonou borders which actually makes up a significant chunk of Benin's economy. I remember when Obasanjo closed that aspect of that border, the Nigerien President was in Abuja pleading his heart out.

I also states the ECOWAS regional block is also an effective tool where Nigeria shoulders the running and servicing of this regional body.

I also stated Nigeria should invest in nuclear power generation as south Africa and Egypt have done.

If I made add her what about the other 2 dams Nigeria still have? Kainji dam only supplies about 500 megawatts of electricity. This 40 years dam is long over due for an upgrade with bigger and more powerful turbines!

And yes, bigger countries dictate to smaller countries every day. It is called diplomatic pressure in geopolitics.
You're an alexithymic buffoon who isn't worth its weight in white garri. A sad example for internet.

Your self-esteem must really have the lifespan of your data subscription.

Highly recommended ignoramus!

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Stop boring me with more and more ignorant rubbish, I asked you to articulate what Nigeria should have offered to placate them or what punishment we should have threatened to force them to agree to our terms.


You are not impressing me with your misappropriation of words and puerile insults so stop wasting your time.

TheMortician:
My point is, since Nigeria barely has enough electricity for itself why not use her economic power in the subregion to negotiate other ways of compensation instead of selling what she doesn't have? (2) The honourable minister wasn't even taking about alternative source of power generation when other African countries with less electricity demand have gone nuclear. But he was still hitting on kanji dam which is as useless as our independence.

when magnified idiots like you grace the Internet, they often critique people's submission without facts. And you wonder why the only interview you have ever been invited for since your everlasting joblessness is for the possition of a mortuary attendant.

You're the brain-damaged, barely-literate Nairaland foremost nuisance who goes about arguing out of point and logic in all front page thread on this forum. Whenever you're outclassed and out-fact, you veer into non-topic to save face which only makes you appear stupider than you began.

Seems you're looking for your oblique destiny in Nairaland.
Air-headed simpleton

TheMortician baba............take it easy.

TheMortician:
@ Deomelo, have you checked if south Africa is building nuclear power plants yet?

Did you know Nigeria had a contract with Russia under GEJ administration for similar projects but was later jettisoned or stalled?

Read una no go read , na to come Nairaland come disgrace una backwater education naim una sabi

We know about SA and the fact that they have Nuclear power plants, no news here, you said other African countries, emphasis on plural so name the other African countries.

deomelo:
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Stop boring me with more and more ignorant rubbish, I asked you to articulate what Nigeria should have offered to placate them or what punishment we should have threatened to force them to agree to our terms.


You are not impressing me with your misappropriation of words and puerile insults so stop wasting your time.

And he goes again in a diversionary evasive circle of vain repetition!

This is how he keeps his debate playing blind to facts.

And he even said they pay billions for the electricity? Billions in what? Dollars or Naira? Emboldened ignorance is worse than HIV.

Are there no gas alternative with our majorly financed WAPCo that supplies gas to west Africa and even up to north Africa at a pittance?

Do not their fuel consumption being sourced in Nigeria ?

If you need articulation beyond the aforementioned, then you're dumber than olumo rock.