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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 10:14pm On Sep 25, 2017
obinna58:


merciful God executed little children for mockery, and you were able to justify it not only that you also called it an old testament

Isn't it crazy


lolz sorry bro.... I pray am enabled to answer .......

I'd like to resolve somethings

I'd like it to be really interactive and I'd want you to respond with an unbiased mind .... I'd answer you too with all sincerity ....

1) do you think that God wasn't just by executing those children and why?
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 11:18pm On Sep 25, 2017
MsNgo40:

Hi,
See that's where I have an issue. There shouldn't exist any "categories" of Biblical Christianity.
Followers of Christ are supposed to be on "one accord" in their belief system...and not having such extreme differences on core doctrines.
However, as the enemy would have it, mass confusion has inundated Christianity through multiple "interpretations" of God's Word.... which should ultimately be simplistic.
The enemy has really used folks to try & destroy Christianity....
But I have repeatedly said on NL for folks to lay aside pre-conceived notions of how we think or want things "to be" and pray to the Holy Spirit (humbly & sincerely) for correct understanding of His Word.
As for my denomination, I am first & foremost a follower of Christ....however I am a member of a specific denomination on this earth. It was an unexpected answer to a specific prayer to God.
And He answered..and it has been the best decision of my life thus far.
I often say or write things where the answer is in plain sight.
While I have read several interesting, informative and blessed posts in this section (and also love to encourage fellow followers of Christ in here....), I only follow "1" person (giving honorable mention to 2 other folks also).
Don't know him from "Adam", (and although I'm thousands of miles away from Nigeria..which is where I'm assuming he is) his beliefs (from what I have read here for these 10 months of being on NL) bear the most resemblance to mine.
And from me reading through several of his threads, I believe I know his denomination...simply based on what he's written..biblically based info.....tons of scripture..and even secular info to further prove God's Word.
And that's how it should be....believers....no matter where they are stationed in the world....being on one accord.
I am not saying he's perfect nor have I always agreed on his "method" of delivery of info....but his core beliefs match mine.
I encourage you to read through some of his threads...you will get your answer smiley
Sorry so long..but I needed to do it this way.


I know. I'm also irritated by the denominational thingy.

Anyways, that's the devil's operation. The same way and reason other false religion now exist, is the same reason why we have denominational Christian(ity).

Meanwhile, who is this Person you're making reference to?
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by obinna58(m): 12:06am On Sep 26, 2017
Ferisidowu:


lolz sorry bro.... I pray am enabled to answer .......

I'd like to resolve somethings

I'd like it to be really interactive and I'd want you to respond with an unbiased mind .... I'd answer you too with all sincerity ....

1) do you think that God wasn't just by executing those children and why?
I think you are the one trying to use unbiased mind, taking things straight any rightful thinking person will understand that children sometimes does crazy things for fun cos of their immature mindset
God was not only unjust but a monstrous omnipotent omniscient omnipresent omnibenevolence being and this is why you need to know that Bible is just historybook composed by mafians to let people view the positive side of past manipulative leaders

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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 1:18am On Sep 26, 2017
Jhaytee4all:



I know. I'm also irritated by the denominational thingy.

Anyways, that's the devil's operation. The same way and reason other false religion now exist, is the same reason why we have denominational Christian(ity).

Meanwhile, who is this Person you're making reference to?

Brother, I'm surprised that you don't know how to access who a person's following?
Anyhow, just click on my name and it'll show (or it should show up) on my profile page.
Not trying to blow anyone's head up...cause if there's one thing I can't stand.....it's arrogance.
But he has written a lot and given justice to a lot of topics.
Anyhow, if possible in the future, explore some of his threads smiley
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 11:34am On Sep 26, 2017
MsNgo40:


Brother, I'm surprised that you don't know how to access who a person's following?
Anyhow, just click on my name and it'll show (or it should show up) on my profile page.
Not trying to blow anyone's head up...cause if there's one thing I can't stand.....it's arrogance.
But he has written a lot and given justice to a lot of topics.
Anyhow, if possible in the future, explore some of his threads smiley

Lol. Sister, I know how to do that, but frankly, your wordiness got me perturbed.

smiley

Thanks anyway.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 10:19pm On Sep 26, 2017
Jhaytee4all:


Lol. Sister, I know how to do that, but frankly, your wordiness got me perturbed.

smiley

Thanks anyway.


Lol....let me say this with all due respect, but surely my "wordiness" couldn't have made you that perturbed.
If that's the case, then you must be perturbed by 75-80 percent of NL posts.
Brother, you wanted a straight and quick answer but I chose to take you through a long road.
You played a game....and I (knowing what you were doing) played right back with you....sorry.
But if you are truly serious about wanting to know more, then you would've not tried to use the tactic that you did.....
I knew that you knew how to find the person.
But if you are honest with yourself, you wanted me to say the brother's name....
but it's not really about him. He has at least 6 threads that I completely agree with...which attest to my faith and denomination.
But it's not about him....it's about scriptural truth.
He has presented it correctly...in that aspect.
Please keep in mind that when I write on NL, it's for a larger audience than just the person asking the question.
Sorry for being so "wordy" right now.
Sometimes I can't help it smiley
But you are very welcome.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Ken4Christ: 10:59pm On Sep 26, 2017
Die by fire or Holy Ghost fire and similar forms of prayers most denominations offer today are rooted in the Old Testament law of Moses which has been abolished. Jesus abolished the Law of Moses and ushered in grace but a greater percentage of the Church are still ignorant of this divine truth.

Such forms of prayers are not scriptural. Vengeance is the exclusive right of God. You don't have the moral right to kill or rain down fire on anyone but you can bind or resist the devil. I have a full book on this subject titled, 'A critical analysis of Dangerous Prayer Languages'

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9WOT7Y
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Samsimple(m): 2:38am On Sep 27, 2017
Ken4Christ:
Die by fire or Holy Ghost fire and similar forms of prayers most denominations offer today are rooted in the Old Testament law of Moses which has been abolished. Jesus abolished the Law of Moses and ushered in grace but a greater percentage of the Church are still ignorant of this divine truth.

Such forms of prayers are not scriptural. Vengeance is the exclusive right of God. You don't have the moral right to kill or rain down fire on anyone but you can bind or resist the devil. I have a full book on this subject titled, 'A critical analysis of Dangerous Prayer Languages'

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F9WOT7Y
all this old and new testament talk is annoyin
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by danderson(f): 9:58am On Sep 27, 2017
Samsimple:
We claim to be christians but we tend to exhibit characters that contradicts the teachings of jesus...why do we despise our non existing enemies so much, when we know we are the cause our problems, even if they do exist why do christians still say "holy ghost fire pursue and destroy my enemies" ... Love your enemies and just maybe he/she might be ur best friend....
PEACE

The most potent authourity that Jesus gave us apart from the virtue of loving depending on the circumstance is to crush the enemies, especially the spiritual adversaries - Luke 10:19 I have given you authority/power to trample upon snakes and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing shall by any means hurt you"

In Isaiah 62:2 - Because of my Zion, i will not be silence. Because of my Jerusalem, i will not rest. Untill her righteousness goes forth as brightness and her salvation as the[b] lamp that burneth[/b] (Fire them bro)

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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 1:32pm On Sep 27, 2017
obinna58:
What about God who said love you enemy and sends his to eternal fire undecided
If c God is a hypocrite wouldn't his followers learn from him undecided


the Bible God is a hypocrite n racist.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by rexlims(m): 4:51pm On Sep 27, 2017
Samsimple:
We claim to be christians but we tend to exhibit characters that contradicts the teachings of jesus...why do we despise our non existing enemies so much, when we know we are the cause our problems, even if they do exist why do christians still say "holy ghost fire pursue and destroy my enemies" ... Love your enemies and just maybe he/she might be ur best friend....
PEACE

whenever i am in church, i try nt to pray dis prayerline. cos it is against our lord Jesus teachings.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by rexlims(m): 4:56pm On Sep 27, 2017
Meeloreh:

I pray it won't be too late before you understand

the same bible says if a man's way pleases the lord, He will make even his enemies to be at peace with him.
when Daniel was being persecuted by d medians, the bible never mentioned where he knelt down to rain fire upon his enemies, but he went about thanking God and praying for the remnants of isreal.
bottom line is make ur ways right before God, and leave the rest to him.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Ken4Christ: 11:28pm On Sep 27, 2017
Samsimple:

all this old and new testament talk is annoyin

Please, what makes it annoying?
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 7:30pm On Sep 28, 2017
MsNgo40:



Lol....let me say this with all due respect, but surely my "wordiness" couldn't have made you that perturbed.
If that's the case, then you must be perturbed by 75-80 percent of NL posts.
Brother, you wanted a straight and quick answer but I chose to take you through a long road.
You played a game....and I (knowing what you were doing) played right back with you....sorry.
But if you are truly serious about wanting to know more, then you would've not tried to use the tactic that you did.....
I knew that you knew how to find the person.
But if you are honest with yourself, you wanted me to say the brother's name....
but it's not really about him. He has at least 6 threads that I completely agree with...which attest to my faith and denomination.
But it's not about him....it's about scriptural truth.
He has presented it correctly...in that aspect.
Please keep in mind that when I write on NL, it's for a larger audience than just the person asking the question.
Sorry for being so "wordy" right now.
Sometimes I can't help it smiley
But you are very welcome.

Lol! Geez!!

Ok, but actually, you weren't so wordy. Frankly, I didn't put much focus on your post, I was simply scanning and picking out key details on what you posted.

Even if some Christians on Nairaland acts Christ-like here on Nairaland, their demeanors are really appalling when they're offline, however, I don't actually know you, but I'm impressed by your Christ-like mannerism. Keep it up. wink

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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 2:15am On Sep 29, 2017
Jhaytee4all:


Lol! Geez!!

Ok, but actually, you weren't so wordy. Frankly, I didn't put much focus on your post, I was simply scanning and picking out key details on what you posted.

Even if some Christians on Nairaland acts Christ-like here on Nairaland, their demeanors are really appalling when they're offline, however, I don't actually know you, but I'm impressed by your Christ-like mannerism. Keep it up. wink

Brother,
I seriously and humbly appreciate your kind words...
What you see here is what you get with me..although you don't know me.
By no means have I achieved perfection just yet...but I am striving for it.
I totally understand having a persona for the public...and having a completely different persona behind closed doors.
I have to be brutally honest and say that a few things "boil my blood" (insincerity, dishonesty, manipulation, a man who claims to be smitten with me yet has wandering eyes....but calls me jealous & crazy, arrogance, cruelty and injustice etc) and I haven't overcome the tendency to not allow those things to disturb my peace just yet. But I will through Christ' strength!
Anyhow....I was debating on whether to answer cause I didn't want to be long-winded...but I wanted to say all of that above....to say again "thank-you" smiley
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by ScienceWatch: 2:48pm On Sep 29, 2017
danderson:


The most potent authority that Jesus gave us apart from the virtue of loving depending on the circumstance is to crush the enemies, especially the spiritual adversaries - Luke 10:19 I have given you authority/power to trample upon snakes and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy and nothing shall by any means hurt you"

In Isaiah 62:2 - Because of my Zion, i will not be silence. Because of my Jerusalem, i will not rest. Untill her righteousness goes forth as brightness and her salvation as the[b] lamp that burneth[/b] (Fire them bro)
Danderson, the facts you present above are absolutely true and easily verifiable to those that have never had the opportunity to witness it, if only they could see it.
Jesus said that the manifestation of his miraculous power, is so they will be amazed, to help them believe so they can glorify God.
Thats what the Miracles are about, it is meant to amaze us so that we can glorify of God.

I am eternally grateful that I have been given an Opportunity to witness daily what you have written above.

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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by ScienceWatch: 4:10pm On Sep 29, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
CHRIST JESUS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AND THERE IS NO OTHER...I AM SORRY IF IT OFFENDS YOU...BUT I MUST PROCLAIM IT TO THE END OF THE EARTH..
You should not apologize, Sir. Proclaim it !
There are overwhelming verifiable evidence to back you up any day, ALL THE TIME !

These Atheists claim that they worship science and research but they make false claims that they have never found any evidence of the solutions you mentioned, which is only found in the promises of the mighty Jesus Christ. These MENTALLY DISEASED ATHEISTS should research all religions of this world, then finally they will bow to a truth far more superior than mere science.

Atheists brag about their love for science but shy away from the recent scientific publication about a 22yr study of Atheists.
The shocking findings revealed that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

This crazy Mafia hitman in the video clip below can't stop laughing because he just read the scientific publication that conclusively proves that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE. His wife took him to a Psychiatrist for treatment. She said he was laughing day and night.

Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by ScienceWatch: 4:20pm On Sep 29, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
CHRIST JESUS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION AND THERE IS NO OTHER...I AM SORRY IF IT OFFENDS YOU...BUT I MUST PROCLAIM IT TO THE END OF THE EARTH..
You should not apologize, Sir. Proclaim it !
There are overwhelming verifiable evidence to back you up any day, ALL THE TIME !

These Atheists claim that they worship science and research but they make false claims that they have never found any evidence of the solutions you mentioned, which is only found in the promises of the mighty Jesus Christ. Christians are wise, they never waste their time on Atheists.

Jesus instructions is the ultimate guide. He guided his disciples/pastors on who to teach. Jesus said, "the fruit is ripe and ready for picking. but the workers are few." Dont bother with unripe fruit. Good farmers know this rule. These MENTALLY DISEASED ATHEISTS should research all religions of this world, then finally they will bow to a truth far more superior than mere science.

Atheists brag about their love for science but shy away from the recent scientific publication about a 22yr study of Atheists.
The shocking findings revealed that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.

This crazy Mafia hitman in the video clip below can't stop laughing because he just read the scientific publication that conclusively proves that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE. His wife took him to a Psychiatrist for treatment. She said he was laughing day and night.

Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 7:30am On Sep 30, 2017
obinna58:

I think you are the one trying to use unbiased mind, taking things straight any rightful thinking person will understand that children sometimes does crazy things for fun cos of their immature mindset
God was not only unjust but a monstrous omnipotent omniscient omnipresent omnibenevolence being and this is why you need to know that Bible is just historybook composed by mafians to let people view the positive side of past manipulative leaders


let me take this straight.... I can only argue from the Bible point ... no other book tells about this event ...... so if you believe what was written in the Bible concerning this issue then you yourself would conclude by reading other passages and comparing scripture with scripture that he could do whatever he wish to do........


besides what clay argues with the Potter on what the potter made it to be .....


you can do whatever you will with your money with your influence and power ....
right?
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by obinna58(m): 10:32am On Sep 30, 2017
Ferisidowu:


let me take this straight.... I can only argue from the Bible point ... no other book tells about this event ...... so if you believe what was written in the Bible concerning this issue then you yourself would conclude by reading other passages and comparing scripture with scripture that he could do whatever he wish to do........


besides what clay argues with the Potter on what the potter made it to be .....


you can do whatever you will with your money with your influence and power ....
right?
He does as his wishes
Doing what you tag bad
Hypocritic behavior
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 11:57am On Sep 30, 2017
obinna58:

He does as his wishes
Doing what you tag bad
Hypocritic behavior



because sin is the transgression of law (he made the law so he above it)........


if you aren't arguing from the Bible point...... then we have no argument cos I wonder why instead of one being busy with work one would take Time to argue about something that ain't real to him.......
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by obinna58(m): 12:02pm On Sep 30, 2017
Ferisidowu:



because sin is the transgression of law (he made the law so he above it)........


if you aren't arguing from the Bible point...... then we have no argument cos I wonder why instead of one being busy with work one would take Time to argue about something that ain't real to him.......

Tautology
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 1:20pm On Sep 30, 2017
MsNgo40:


Brother,
I seriously and humbly appreciate your kind words...
What you see here is what you get with me..although you don't know me.
By no means have I achieved perfection just yet...but I am striving for it.
I totally understand having a persona for the public...and having a completely different persona behind closed doors.
I have to be brutally honest and say that a few things "boil my blood" (insincerity, dishonesty, manipulation, a man who claims to be smitten with me yet has wandering eyes....but calls me jealous & crazy, arrogance, cruelty and injustice etc) and I haven't overcome the tendency to not allow those things to disturb my peace just yet. But I will through Christ' strength!
Anyhow....I was debating on whether to answer cause I didn't want to be long-winded...but I wanted to say all of that above....to say again "thank-you" smiley

Do not mention, I'm only impressed & if only you could hold unto that demeanor without being *self-righteous* like the pharisees of the Bible days of Jesus, then Jesus 'd be more impressed and see his light shining in you. smiley

Just like he had said, "Let your light shine before men, you are the light of the world. A city set on a hill canNOT be hidden"

Goodluck to you sister. wink

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Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2017
MsNgo40:


You are correct my brother.
See that's what I can't seem to understand.
The Biblical Christianity that I've been raised in doesn't promote that "die by fire" thing.
Never heard of that concept in my life until I came to NL.
That must be a Nigerian brand of Christianity.... undecided
We can never, ever win souls to Christ by being self-righteous & dogmatic all under the guise of being an alleged "warrior for Christ" (meanwhile completely excluding/omitting the Fruit of the Spirit--which is Christ' character) which I see repeatedly in this section of NL. Unfortunately, all I see is a predominate amount of folks who just.....umm...well let me stop and quiet down.
Anyhow, to those who can't see Christ (The Son of God-Christ) in us "followers of Christ"....I apologize. Please don't let that turn you away from attempting to know Who He is and can do in your life.
Did your bible also say "Suffereth not a witch to live?". I'm sure you're not a good Christian if you don't understand what it means.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Habyz(m): 10:25pm On Sep 30, 2017
bloodofthelamb:
GOD DIED FOR HIS ENEMIES....GOD DIED FOR HIS MUDERERS, SO THAT THEY CAN BECOME HIS FRIENDS...GOD IS NOT CONDEMNING ANYBODY TO HELL...HIS ENEMIES WILL CONDEMN THEMSELVES BY REFUSING THE HANDSHAKE OF GOD'S PEACE
When did God die? Just asking
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Jrevelation(m): 10:25pm On Sep 30, 2017
Hmmm
If you don't crush your enemies by fire

Just pray it is not naija witches most especially Yoruba Witchs...

In my family we have three and we can't even identify them because female plenty while male are few

It's crazy

These three witch don mess things ooo

God is Strong and Mighty

Im sorry
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Nobody: 10:26pm On Sep 30, 2017
obinna58:

Wooow interesting even God has personal laws he operates with
Is this in the bible or what you created for yourself in form of defense

Do your parents expect you to responsible or irresponsible?
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by MadCow1: 10:26pm On Sep 30, 2017
obinna58:
What about God who said love you enemy and sends his to eternal fire undecided
If c God is a hypocrite wouldn't his followers learn from him undecided

Epic.... grin
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Chykes403: 10:27pm On Sep 30, 2017
Samsimple:

understand what

Pls help me ask am o.
Re: Jesus Says "Love Your Enemy" Christians Say "Enemy Die By Fire" by Chykes403: 10:28pm On Sep 30, 2017
Meeloreh:

I pray it won't be too late before you understand

Understand your head. Oya explain na.....JEREMIAH grin

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