₦airaland Forum

Asianguy:
There are feminist in Nigeria but they are only active on social media, they dare not come take it beyond the internet and turn it into a mass movement like Black lives matter it would be disastrous.

'My wife belongs to the kitchen and the other room'
This statement was made by the president himself that tells you the impossibility of having equal rights in Nigeria even in the next 300 years.

Well he ain't going to be president forever. Wait till I become your president, then you are all Fvcked.

Daeylar:
It's everything they don't want, feminism, humanism, gender equality, it's exactly what they don't want.

Feminism is not the same as gender equality?

shaybebaby:
Well he ain't going to be president forever. Wait till I become your president, then you are all Fvcked.

Haha lol... Are u of Nigerian decent?

Asianguy:
Haha lol... Are u of Nigerian decent?

Yup so be ready, the Internet never forgets. I will find all of you.

shaybebaby:
Yup so be ready, the Internet never forgets. I will find all of you.

Hahaha
You will get less than 100 votes
Which state are you from

Av tried to wrap my head around this FEMINISM of a thing and my conclusion is that it is going to be very difficult to achieve.

Asianguy:
Hahaha
You will get less than 100 votes
Which state are you from

Nope I won't, many people are tired of the same old bunch of old geezers taking turns and not making any difference in the lives of the people.

My state is irrelevant, my government will not be partisan. Equity for all, accountability from those tasked with governance, zero-tolerance on corruption of government officials. When i say zero, I mean it. If you steal from the people, don't let me catch you because it is death.
I will make it treason and execute all those who steal.

shaybebaby:
Nope I won't, many people are tired of the same old bunch of old geezers taking turns and not making any difference in the lives of the people.

My state is irrelevant, my government will not be partisan. Equity for all, accountability from those tasked with governance, zero-tolerance on corruption of government officials. When i say zero, I mean it. If you steal from the people, don't let me catch you because it is death.
I will make it treason and execute all those who steal.

Holy father uncle cousin king, you ain't messing around!!!

shaybebaby:
Nope I won't, many people are tired of the same old bunch of old geezers taking turns and not making any difference in the lives of the people.

My state is irrelevant, my government will not be partisan. Equity for all, accountability from those tasked with governance, zero-tolerance on corruption of government officials. When i say zero, I mean it. If you steal from the people, don't let me catch you because it is death.
I will make it treason and execute all those who steal.

My sister your state is relevant o
If you are Igbo just forget the possibility
Why not try state Governor first
You may be the first female Governor

AgentOfAllah:
Holy father uncle cousin king, you ain't messing around!!!

Well, normal rule of law will apply for citizens. Just that not only do I need to weed out existing corrupt official, but also to give pause for thought before you consider taking such positions.
No ifs, no buts, from 30 naira to 30 billion, same result : off with their heads.

Asianguy:
My sister your state is relevant o
If you are Igbo just forget the possibility
Why not try state Governor first
You may be the first female Governor

Nah, that's the traditional route. I'm going to start my own political party.

makydebbie:
Oya stop crying I promised poco I'll be a wife material.

I beg of u, please forget that ur sarcasm of being a good wife that you and poco started from page 1abi nah page 2....At least am happy u're not a feminist, i don't think any woman that calls herself a Christian should be one, if one is championing for equal rights and justice plus equal opportunities based on humanism(something that both genders can acquire without any of them being/feeling cheated) then u have my full support. ...come to think of it i don't that there's anything a man can do that our women can do or allowed to partake in our present society, we have rights, women can vote, women participate in politics and many other positions of high status so what else are they clamouring for Have a nice day Debo, i wouldn't mind you being that good wife to me tho

shaybebaby:
Well, normal rule of law will apply for citizens. Just that not only do I need to weed out existing corrupt official, but also to give pause for thought before you consider taking such positions.
No ifs, no buts, from 30 naira to 30 billion, same result : off with their heads.

Mum Knight, Morn, Did i hear you say weed out corruption, the country's fourth religion? Don't think about it. Do not

shaybebaby:
Nope I won't, many people are tired of the same old bunch of old geezers taking turns and not making any difference in the lives of the people.

My state is irrelevant, my government will not be partisan. Equity for all, accountability from those tasked with governance, zero-tolerance on corruption of government officials. When i say zero, I mean it. If you steal from the people, don't let me catch you because it is death.
I will make it treason and execute all those who steal.

Hmmm @ Nope I won't, many people are tired of the same old bunch of old geezers taking turns and not making any difference in the lives of the people.


This sounds lie Utopia. Until there's death penalty for corruption like China did, Nigeria won't stop

shaybebaby:
Well, normal rule of law will apply for citizens. Just that not only do I need to weed out existing corrupt official, but also to give pause for thought before you consider taking such positions.
No ifs, no buts, from 30 naira to 30 billion, same result : off with their heads.

I feel this kind of inflexibility might be counterproductive for two reasons:
1) It's remarkably easy for criminals to prey on the sentiments of people by politicising your harsh actions as an attack on tribe/religion/ethnicity and so on. This ends up ennobling the criminal in the eyes of the people you serve. The harsher the punishment, the easier it is to villify you, since people automatically empathise with the apparent underdog, even to their own detriment. I still come about a lot of threads on this very forum where people believe Jonathan (and fedora adorning goatherd with lots of half-eaten rotten yams in his closet) and Diezani (Nigeria's strategic national eyes reserve) aren't criminals, but victims of a vindictive ethnic bigot, Buhari (and 14th century grandad who still thinks women belong in the other room).
I believe his harsh words and iron fist reputation may have played well into the hands of his detractors, or, at least, introduced a lot of resistance in his failing and flailing anticorruption drive.

2) Most petty thieves are usually protégés of bigger ones, so if you're as harsh with the small timers as you are with the big fish, you may find the big fish unpleasantly difficult to indict since they'll always cover their tracks by using small guys as their front persons. Dead men don't talk...they don't help either. Agencies like the FBI are successful because they make good deals with small thieves in order to catch big ones. So maybe don't execute a ₦30 thief. (S)he may prove useful in helping you recover ₦30 billion

shaybebaby:
Nah, that's the traditional route. I'm going to start my own political party.

Let's start a political party! I'm totally up for it.

shaybebaby:
Nah, that's the traditional route. I'm going to start my own political party.

Let's start. Let's make thins happen mum

AgentOfAllah:
Let's start a political party! I'm totally up for it.

what are we going to call it? Are we going to liberal or Conservative? Our manifesto?

shaybebaby:
what are we going to call it? Are we going to liberal or Conservative? Our manifesto?

Hian,diz woman

AgentOfAllah:
I feel this kind of inflexibility might be counterproductive for two reasons:
1) It's remarkably easy for criminals to prey on the sentiments of people by politicising your harsh actions as an attack on tribe/religion/ethnicity and so on. This ends up ennobling the criminal in the eyes of the people you serve. The harsher the punishment, the easier it is to villify you, since people automatically empathise with the apparent underdog, even to their own detriment. I still come about a lot of threads on this very forum where people believe Jonathan (and fedora adorning goatherd with lots of half-eaten rotten yams in his closet) and Diezani (Nigeria's strategic national eyes reserve) aren't criminals, but victims of a vindictive ethnic bigot, Buhari (and 14th century grandad who still thinks women belong in the other room).
I believe his harsh words and iron fist reputation may have played well into the hands of his detractors, or, at least, introduced a lot of resistance in his failing and flailing anticorruption drive.

2) Most petty thieves are usually protégés of bigger ones, so if you're as harsh with the small timers as you are with the big fish, you may find the big fish unpleasantly difficult to indict since they'll always cover their tracks by using small guys as their front persons. Dead men don't talk...they don't help either. Agencies like the FBI are successful because they make good deals with small thieves in order to catch big ones. So maybe don't execute a ₦30 thief. (S)he may prove useful in helping you recover ₦30 billion

You have raised very valid points but I suppose that works in organised crime where there are a lot of cash transactions, illegal ones such as the drug trade. It is often important to have eyes within to gain insights.

But we talking about the government here, the agency which I'll be heading. I am already inside.

Since we talking about government money here, oil receipts, taxes, foreign aid and loans, there will always be a paper trail. If there isn't adequate record keeping, an overhaul of the system will be required. All transactions must be recorded or else... TREASON!!

Now about how people perception might be influenced, that is food for thought. I may have to hire someone for impression management. Do a bit of Putin, plant false news about those trying to discredit me .
Jokes aside, it's very difficult to control the narrative in this Internet age which is why results, tangible results for the majority will remain an overriding priority. That cannot be argued with.

Martin0:
Hian,diz woman

Good morning o, I've been in bed all day. Still in bed.
Where is my fufu?

shaybebaby:
You have raised very valid points but I suppose that works in organised crime where there are a lot of cash transactions, illegal ones such as the drug trade. It is often important to have eyes within to gain insights.

But we talking about the government here, the agency which I'll be heading. I am already inside.

Since we talking about government money here, oil receipts, taxes, foreign aid and loans, there will always be a paper trail. If there isn't adequate record keeping, an overhaul of the system will be required. All transactions must be recorded or else... TREASON!!

Now about how people perception might be influenced, that is food for thought. I may have to hire someone for impression management. Do a bit of Putin, plant false news about those trying to discredit me .
Jokes aside, it's very difficult to control the narrative in this Internet age which is why results, tangible results for the majority will remain an overriding priority. That cannot be argued with.

Uhmmm agbalagbi woman,;Dcorrect abi

Martin0:
Uhmmm agbalagbi woman,;Dcorrect abi

What you think?can I count on your vote?

shaybebaby:
Good morning o, I've been in bed all day. Still in bed. Where is my fufu?

Aaa morning now? Well if it morning now,u don't need to eat fufu
oya as a good friend lemm serve u coffee.. Then as a kind and obidient man let me also give u some soft massage
I hope say nor be crime ooo coz I nor wan go jail

shaybebaby:
You have raised very valid points but I suppose that works in organised crime where there are a lot of cash transactions, illegal ones such as the drug trade. It is often important to have eyes within to gain insights.

But we talking about the government here, the agency which I'll be heading. I am already inside.

Since we talking about government money here, oil receipts, taxes, foreign aid and loans, there will always be a paper trail. If there isn't adequate record keeping, an overhaul of the system will be required. All transactions must be recorded or else... TREASON!!

Now about how people perception might be influenced, that is food for thought. I may have to hire someone for impression management. Do a bit of Putin, plant false news about those trying to discredit me .
Jokes aside, it's very difficult to control the narrative in this Internet age which is why results, tangible results for the majority will remain an overriding priority. That cannot be argued with.

You think you can really fight corruption in Nigeria?

I'll let you in on a secret. If you don't join an occult and take oaths of allegiance you can hardly way way with the already established parties. Don't ask me how i know, i knew people back in the glory days

shaybebaby:
What you think?can I count on your vote?

My vote na wa oooo Are u really serious with this?

shaybebaby:
what are we going to call it? Are we going to liberal or Conservative? Our manifesto?

We'll be neither liberal nor conservative nor libertarian. My vision of a modern party is one driven by pragmatists, not ideologues or highfalutin demagogues.
Maybe we call it Congress for Pragmatic Nigerians. I'm tired of silly, hypocritical idealisms. I'm sure people may be tempted to call it a centrist party, but there will be an important distinction: Our policies will be supported as much as possible, by science and statistics, not by a need to satiate moderate ideologues.

Of course, our pragmatic policies will have to depend on certain core principles which aren't up for debate, like freedom, fairness, justice, etc. I guess a ratified version of the universal declaration of human rights would do.

Our Manifesto should address immediate problems like corruption. To this end, three processes should immediately be strengthened; oversight, statistical records and institutional independence. All such agencies that carry out such roles will constitutionally be guaranteed a certain amount of base fund that doesn't require government approval, but subject to regular government audits.

The people make the system, so appointment is extremely important. Most federal appointments would probably come from within the political party, which means that members must be subjected to extreme vetting, complete with background checks and what not. Anybody with a criminal history cannot be admitted into the party.

We also need to think a lot about sources of government income. Hopefully, tax regimes will be strengthened too. Taxes aren't important just because the government gets its funds from them, but also because the government would feel more beholden to the people, therefore, more responsible.

These are my raw thoughts. With great minds such as yours, we can have a more refined manifesto

AgentOfAllah:
We'll be neither liberal nor conservative nor libertarian. My vision of a modern party is one driven by pragmatists, not ideologues or highfalutin demagogues.
Maybe we call it Congress for Pragmatic Nigerians. I'm tired of silly, hypocritical idealisms. I'm sure people may be tempted to call it a centrist party, but there will be an important distinction: Our policies will be supported as much as possible, by science and statistics, not by a need to satiate moderate ideologues.

Of course, our pragmatic policies will have to depend on certain core principles which aren't up for debate, like freedom, fairness, justice, etc. I guess a ratified version of the universal declaration of human rights would do.

Our Manifesto should address immediate problems like corruption. To this end, three processes should immediately be strengthened; oversight, statistical records and institutional independence. All such agencies that carry out such roles will constitutionally be guaranteed a certain amount of base fund that doesn't require government approval, but subject to regular government audits.

The people make the system, so appointment is extremely important. Most federal appointments would probably come from within the political party, which means that members must be subjected to extreme vetting, complete with background checks and what not. Anybody with a criminal history cannot be admitted into the party.

We also need to think a lot about sources of government income. Hopefully, tax regimes will be strengthened too. Taxes aren't important just because the government gets its funds from them, but also because the government would feel more beholden to the people, therefore, more responsible.

These are my raw thoughts. With great minds such as yours, we can have a more refined manifesto

But all these sounds like a repetition, like the same ideologies you're shying away from.

A party needs aclearly defined purpose, objective,belief system,principles. These contribute to the binding factor within the factor, and ultimately helps it become marketable. You seem like an idealist, this needs reining and clear goals and objectives.

AgentOfAllah:
We'll be neither liberal nor conservative nor libertarian. My vision of a modern party is one driven by pragmatists, not ideologues or highfalutin demagogues.
Maybe we call it Congress for Pragmatic Nigerians. I'm tired of silly, hypocritical idealisms. I'm sure people may be tempted to call it a centrist party, but there will be an important distinction: Our policies will be supported as much as possible, by science and statistics, not by a need to satiate moderate ideologues.

Of course, our pragmatic policies will have to depend on certain core principles which aren't up for debate, like freedom, fairness, justice, etc. I guess a ratified version of the universal declaration of human rights would do.

Our Manifesto should address immediate problems like corruption. To this end, three processes should immediately be strengthened; oversight, statistical records and institutional independence. All such agencies that carry out such roles will constitutionally be guaranteed a certain amount of base fund that doesn't require government approval, but subject to regular government audits.

The people make the system, so appointment is extremely important. Most federal appointments would probably come from within the political party, which means that members must be subjected to extreme vetting, complete with background checks and what not. Anybody with a criminal history cannot be admitted into the party.

We also need to think a lot about sources of government income. Hopefully, tax regimes will be strengthened too. Taxes aren't important just because the government gets its funds from them, but also because the government would feel more beholden to the people, therefore, more responsible.

These are my raw thoughts. With great minds such as yours, we can have a more refined manifesto

Deep! Check your mail.

Martin0:
My vote na wa oooo
Are u really serious with this?

You never know

KreativGenius:
But all these sounds like a repetition, like the same ideologies you're shying away from.

Why do you think I'm shying away from ideologies? I'm not, I'm just saying the party shouldn't be defined by any such ideologies. The party's policies will in fact, intersect with many ideologies (call it ideological pluralism) without being confined to any one in particular. The party will prioritise statistics and pragmatism over ideology.

A party needs aclearly defined purpose, objective,belief system,principles. These contribute to the binding factor within the factor, and ultimately helps it become marketable. You seem like an idealist, this needs reining and clear goals and objectives.

The party's principle/belief system is pragmatism. I'm a pragmatist. If you think that's idealism, I couldn't argue otherwise because of semantic circularity, just like being intolerant towards the intolerant. Practically however, it's in stark contrast with, and diametrically opposed to idealism.
The spirit of my modern party will be multifaceted. Based mainly on modern challenges such as human rights, poverty alleviation, environmental protection and so on. Whenever these clash, as the always do, the national interest will take precedence over ideology. These aren't new ideas, as many modern governments already practice this, but usually in violation of the spirit of their manifestos.

shaybebaby:
Deep! Check your mail.

Okay, will do!