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Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Jman06(m): 10:12am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Respect is reciprocal, I am not equal to my parent but he treats me with respect.

You bringing the whole slave issue is another dimension altogether.
If i may ask, why do you think men and women are not equal?? I'm choking with curiosity!
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 10:13am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
exactly lets eradicate it if possible!! Paying groom price was kinda a joke!! But then!! U cant say i want feminism n want men to pay to marry you!!! Finacially independent is very necessary 4 a woman even if ur man fits the bill!!! U never know when he would need ur financial support!! N if u both choose to share the bills!! Fine but a woman should never be solely dependent on a man!! Thats my veiw on feminism!!! Feminism cant survive properly without really hitting on the social roots of it!! B4 going into economical factors!!! We talk so much abt equal pay 4 women n opportunities but 4get the real reasons of patriarchy n what has made it dominate!!! U want equal pay with a man but u wont use ur money 4 anything but a man recieves the same money with u but pay alot of bills with his!! Thats where individualist feminism come in!!! Feminism benefits women as well as men!!
Actually this is 100% true I will reply more detailedly got to mark attendance at church also am following you, you are lot more detailed on this feminism issue
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 10:17am On Feb 04, 2018
Jman06:
If i may ask, why do you think men and women are not equal?? I'm choking with curiosity!
Even the bible does not believe in equality of men and women, women should be submissive to their husband, I know my right as a woman and I also know that I should be submissive to my husband because he is the head of the house and I know that no matter how much I try to equal to a man, I cannot be, I cannot be a father figure and that is the reason why I dread being a single mother cos no one not even me can fill the void of a father.

Like I said earlier the male gender should endeavor to respect and value the female gender. Removing any form of degradation to the female gender, that's is what I stand for and not some stupid feministic movement.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 10:18am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
pls can you kindly define feminism for me, in your own terms.
Feminism is a movement aimed at the equality of the sexes(Male and female gender)
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 10:20am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Even the bible does not believe in equality of men and women, women should be submissive to their husband, I know my right as a woman and I also know that I should be submissive to my husband because he is the head of the house and I know that no matter how much I try to equal to a man, I cannot be, I cannot be a father figure and that is the reason why I dread being a single mother cos no one not even me can fill the void of a father.

Like I said earlier the male gender should endeavor to respect and value the female gender. Removing any form of degradation to the female gender, that's is what I stand for and not some stupid feministic movement.
u hv a right not to belive in it but dont call it stupid!!! Cause ur right to vote n ur right to even own properties were made possible by women lik fumilayo ransom kuti and so many others!!! Dont agree with it but respect it
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 10:21am On Feb 04, 2018
kimbraa:
What do you mean by from a feminist POV and how did feminism come in here? Don't tell me you're one of the few girls dragging feminism in the mud due to your misconception of what true feminist/feminism stands for.
y are you arguing with them? They will drag you to the mud with their ignorance, they don't understand the concept of feminism and its tenets, they don't even know about the different types of feminism. Everybody wants to create a thread on feminism
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 10:28am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Feminism is a movement aimed at the equality of the sexes(Male and female gender)
guess you haven't heard about African feminism, there are different types of feminism in the world. Have you ever asked yourself why most known feminist in Africa are married.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 10:28am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Even the bible does not believe in equality of men and women, women should be submissive to their husband, I know my right as a woman and I also know that I should be submissive to my husband because he is the head of the house and I know that no matter how much I try to equal to a man, I cannot be, I cannot be a father figure and that is the reason why I dread being a single mother cos no one not even me can fill the void of a father.

Like I said earlier the male gender should endeavor to respect and value the female gender. Removing any form of degradation to the female gender, that's is what I stand for and not some stupid feministic movement.
so my last thread abt keeping ur standard as a woman u said i will never reduce ur standard!! What standard are u obligated to hv if any man is better you!!
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ubunja(m): 10:30am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
y are you arguing with them? They will drag you to the mud with their ignorance, they don't understand the concept of feminism and its tenets, they don't even know about the different types of feminism. Everybody wants to create a thread on feminism
now there are "different types" of feminism.lols
all have one thing in common: equal prevelege but varying amount of responsibility" cheesy what a load of bull!!!
cheey picking what you want to rejecting what sounds bad to you. lolz .grow up.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 10:31am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
guess you haven't heard about African feminism, there are different types of feminism in the world. Have you ever asked yourself why most known feminist in Africa are married.
hope u know chiamanda adichie is married to a white man n didnt take his name!! N furthermore i am not an africian feminist i am a socialist feminist
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ubunja(m): 10:36am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
guess you haven't heard about African feminism, there are different types of feminism in the world. Have you ever asked yourself why most known feminist in Africa are married.
Beyonce , america's Feminist icon is married too.
marriage doesnt mean anything.try again.
most US feminists are actually married.and a lot of the prominent ones are in lesbian marriages.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ReinaFarine: 10:37am On Feb 04, 2018
Who knows the northern nigerian custom of the woman buying physical and tangible properties like bed and mattress, refrigerator, television, kitchen utensils for her new home.
I am a feminist... I have never understood the concept of a man selling his daughter for a few million naira or quantifying his wife to be's worth to a few miserly property... Scrap bride price, start groom price, doesnt make a difference to me...
The stupid bride price has even created enough disrespect and sexism... I bought you do what i say... I paid your 'school fees' through the dowry, you are not working in my house and other bullshit... Haha...

Abeg how much is the groom price? Let me start saving...
If it is a custom that causes you pain because you're a man, i'm gonna join you walk against bride price...

I think it started as a test to see the groom's financial capability in taking care of his bride's (and subsequently new family) needs but it has been bastardised to a female (sex) trade thingie... Some culture tests physical capability, some test the woman's cooking ability, and the whole bend down to serve your new man thingie...
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Jman06(m): 10:41am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Even the bible does not believe in equality of men and women, women should be submissive to their husband, I know my right as a woman and I also know that I should be submissive to my husband because he is the head of the house and I know that no matter how much I try to equal to a man, I cannot be, I cannot be a father figure and that is the reason why I dread being a single mother cos no one not even me can fill the void of a father.

Like I said earlier the male gender should endeavor to respect and value the female gender. Removing any form of degradation to the female gender, that's is what I stand for and not some stupid feministic movement.
Stop with the bible nonsense abeg! See, submissiveness in marriage should be a mutual thing. It should imply mutual respect, it should imply you being able to correct your husband when he is going wrong and him accepting your correction. It should imply being able to take a joint decision that would benefit the family! Reason i don't agree with the notion that women must be the one to always submit to their husband is that men are not more intelligent than women and so, they cannot be said to possess the ability to take better decisions than their wives. In other words, men are not all-knowing and incapable of mistakes, hence submission means him being to accept a superior opinion and corrections from his wife for the overall interest of the family, likewise his wife accepting a better opinion and corrections from him. That is why i advocate mutual submission in marriage. Some of you ladies like getting yourselves into trouble with your wrong mindset of "I must submit to every whims of my husband", yet deep into the marriage when the chips are down you start complaining.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 10:42am On Feb 04, 2018
ubunja:
Beyonce , america's Feminist icon is married too.
marriage doesnt mean anything.try again.
most US feminists are actually married.and a lot of the prominent ones are in lesbian marriages.
she is African right? Am talking about African feminism not western feminsm, there are differences between the two, you can make use of your google
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 10:48am On Feb 04, 2018
ReinaFarine:
Who knows the northern nigerian custom of the woman buying physical and tangible properties like bed and mattress, refrigerator, television, kitchen utensils for her new home.
I am a feminist... I have never understood the concept of a man selling his daughter for a few million naira or quantifying his wife to be's worth to a few miserly property... Scrap bride price, start groom price, doesnt make a difference to me...
The stupid bride price has even created enough disrespect and sexism... I bought you do what i say... I paid your 'school fees' through the dowry, you are not working in my house and other bullshit... Haha...

Abeg how much is the groom price? Let me start saving...
If it is a custom that causes you pain because you're a man, i'm gonna join you walk against bride price...

I think it started as a test to see the groom's financial capability in taking care of his bride's (and subsequently new family) needs but it has been bastardised to a female (sex) trade thingie... Some culture tests physical capability, some test the woman's cooking ability, and the whole bend down to serve your new man thingie...
real feminist!!! Hallelujah!! Hey girl!!! grin
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 10:54am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
hope u know chiamanda adichie is married to a white man n didnt take his name!! N furthermore i am not an africian feminist i am a socialist feminist
Educate me more on your social feminism I really want to know about it, Chidimanda Adiche is not the only married African feminist, we have the late Buchi Emecheta, Mariama Ba, Catherine Acholonu, Leslie Ogundipe, Akachi Adimora to mention a few. Note that Western feminism kicks against marriage they advocates for lesbianism.

Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ReinaFarine: 10:58am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
real
feminist!!! Hallelujah!! Hey girl!!! grin
Hi honey...
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 11:00am On Feb 04, 2018
ubunja:
now there are "different types" of feminism.lols
all have one thing in common: equal prevelege but varying amount of responsibility" cheesy what a load of bull!!!
cheey picking what you want to rejecting what sounds bad to you. lolz .grow up.
y are you masturbating on every feminist thread lol. Read wide there are different types of feminism with its tenets and it differs because of cultural and societal norms. If you don't understand the concept of feminism then don't argue about it. What's your definition of feminism let me see how i can help you
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 11:08am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
so my last thread abt keeping ur standard as a woman u said i will never reduce ur standard!! What standard are u obligated to hv if any man is better you!!
Don't bring standard into all these, we all have our roles to play as male gender and female gender. Like I said and I will keep saying I will never reduce my standard for any man or compromise, I know my self worth, and I don't need to be a feminist to know it, most of you that come online to rant about feminism cannot even leave a cheating man or leave an abusive relationship, I don't tolerate cheating in a relationship, neither will I tolerate physical or verbal abuse, I mustn't be a feminist for me to do that. In a relationship, I know I should give my man his respect and he give me my own respect bearing it in mind that we both are not equal, and if that respect is not reciprocated, hell will let loose cos I know I deserve it.


Anything that rocks your boat.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody:
Chikita66:
Respect is reciprocal, I am not equal to my parent but he treats me with respect.

You bringing the whole slave issue is another dimension altogether.
They treat you with respect, not as equals wink
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 11:12am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
Educate me more on your social feminism I really want to know about it, Chidimanda Adiche is not the only married African feminist, we have the late Buchi Emecheta, Mariama Ba, Catherine Acholonu, Leslie Ogundipe, Akachi Adimora to mention a few. Note that Western feminism kicks against marriage they advocates for lesbianism.
okay beyonce aint married or Michelle obama or clintons wife!!! Oh please because some are lesbians does not neglect their intelligence!! Just because u dont agree with their sexual orientation!! I dont either but thry are very intelligent people n i agree with their terms
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ReinaFarine: 11:15am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Don't bring standard into all these, we all have our roles to play as male gender and female gender. Like I said and I will keep saying I will never reduce my standard for any man or compromise, I know my self worth, and I don't need to be a feminist to know it, most of you that come online to rant about feminism cannot even leave a cheating man or leave an abusive relationship, I don't tolerate cheating in a relationship, neither will I tolerate physical or verbal abuse, I mustn't be a feminist for me to do that. In a relationship, I know I should give my man his respect and he give me my own respect bearing it in mind that we both are not equal, and if that respect is not reciprocated, hell will let loose cos I know I deserve it.


Anything that rocks your boat.
Why are you not equal?
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 11:17am On Feb 04, 2018
ReinaFarine:
Why are you not equal?
Men and women are not equal but then both can't be smooth without each other.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 11:17am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
okay beyonce aint married or Michelle obama or clintons wife!!! Oh please because some are lesbians does not neglect their intelligence!! Just because u dont agree with their sexual orientation!! I dont either but thry are very intelligent people n i agree with their terms
you are yet to educate me on social feminism, that's what am waiting for
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ReinaFarine: 11:18am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Men and women are not equal but then both can't be smooth without each other.
The question is why?
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op):
sweetetlove:
Educate me more on your social feminism I really want to know about it, Chidimanda Adiche is not the only married African feminist, we have the late Buchi Emecheta, Mariama Ba, Catherine Acholonu, Leslie Ogundipe, Akachi Adimora to mention a few. Note that Western feminism kicks against marriage they advocates for lesbianism.
just 4 ur information!! Chiamanda is a socialist africian feminist!! Africian based on her nationality!! Read more abt her tho
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 11:20am On Feb 04, 2018
ReinaFarine:
The question is why?
another one is where is it scientifically proven that one is superior than the other!! Rather than religion!!
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 11:21am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
you are yet to educate me on social feminism, that's what am waiting for
u just hv to go back n read what i wrote to one guy!!! I cant write again!!
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Nobody: 11:22am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
guess you haven't heard about African feminism, there are different types of feminism in the world. Have you ever asked yourself why most known feminist in Africa are married.
I don't care about the different kinds of feminism in the world, they all strive to one goal which is equality of the sexes and which I am not in support of.
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by sweetetlove(f): 11:22am On Feb 04, 2018
Shugavee:
okay beyonce aint married or Michelle obama or clintons wife!!! Oh please because some are lesbians does not neglect their intelligence!! Just because u dont agree with their sexual orientation!! I dont either but thry are very intelligent people n i agree with their terms
am not arguing about their sexual preference. Was waiting for you to explain your social feminism I did gender studies in school and I haven't heard about social feminism, I know about motherism, womanism, Stiwanism etc but social feminism, I just heard it today pls educate me on the term social feminism, is it a new concept?
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by Shugavee(op): 11:25am On Feb 04, 2018
Chikita66:
Don't bring standard into all these, we all have our roles to play as male gender and female gender. Like I said and I will keep saying I will never reduce my standard for any man or compromise, I know my self worth, and I don't need to be a feminist to know it, most of you that come online to rant about feminism cannot even leave a cheating man or leave an abusive relationship, I don't tolerate cheating in a relationship, neither will I tolerate physical or verbal abuse, I mustn't be a feminist for me to do that. In a relationship, I know I should give my man his respect and he give me my own respect bearing it in mind that we both are not equal, and if that respect is not reciprocated, hell will let loose cos I know I deserve it.


Anything that rocks your boat.
sorry to tell u honey!! Ur a feminist!!! No one says i will stick to a cheating man while single!! I wont take being cheated on to n thsnk God it hasnt happened!!
Re: Lets Start Paying Groom Prices!!!!! by ReinaFarine: 11:25am On Feb 04, 2018
sweetetlove:
am not arguing about their sexual preference. Was waiting for you to explain your social feminism I did gender studies in school and I haven't heard about social feminism, I know about motherism, womanism, Stiwanism etc but social feminism, I just heard it today pls educate me on the term social feminism, is it a new concept?
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