Emmanystone:

Oh well, we can grumble and be dissatisfied at how He decides to reign and rule over His earth, but that is all we can do, nothing else.
That is what it means to be Sovereign.

sovereign tyrant

hopefulLandlord:


No it doesn't!

I intentionally gave you guys that analogy cuz I wanted you to hang on to something at least

If I throw a money at you and you ask me what I want you to do with it and I said its yours, you can do whatever you want with it. from that moment on the money seizes to be mine and whatever you do with it does not involve me at all, at least not in the way those contradictory verses I'm pointing out is

One account said "HE BOUGHT A FIELD WITH THE MONEY AND HUNG HIMSELF"

another said he threw the money at the priests and they didn't want to add it to the treasury so THEY bought a land with the money

Both verses are clear and explicit

But did Judas tell them to do whatever they wanted with the money? No. He just left.

Judas was Jew and Knew what he was getting into, so, he consent was involved in the decision that was taken concerning the money.

Humanistme:


those things didn't happen. also virgin birth is a popular myth in many ancient cultures.

It is from here i will begin to ignore you.

butterflyl1on:


It is how epigenetics works. Environmental factors such as trauma, stress what we see and experience have been known to activate epigenetic changes. This is scientifically proven.

Epigenetic changes are biological markers on DNA that modify gene expression without altering the underlying sequence.

In other words, it can change skin colour, body markings but not the physical structure itself.

Thank you sir. I don't know genetics so am limited in that area. Thanks for clearing things up.

OkCornel:


I am not invalidating the Bible, what I mentioned is that with the English Bible as it is, there is a mixture of truth and errors...

Thankfully, when you have the Spirit of Truth working in you, you can separate the truth from errors...

"The Letter killeth...but the Spirit giveth life"

If one's mind is closed to reading the English Bible alone without doing an in-depth research to corroborate what is written in it...then, I am really sorry for such a person...

When often I argue my position on a matter in the Bible, I try as much as possible to back it up with historical and archaeological evidences outside of the Bible... I also consider other ancient literatures to corroborate my claims...

yet we have 33000 denominations reading the same bible and drawing inspiration from the same spirit of truth while each of the denomination criticizes others for getting it wrong.

mind you I didn't invalid the entire bible. I said it should not be treated as infallible nothing made by man is infallible.

OkCornel:
Abeg abeg abeg...

First things first...if you all are discussing contradictions in the Bible...bear in mind that God did not come down from Heaven to write the Bible in English...

First of all, what we know as the Old Testament portion of the bible was written in Hebrew and Aramaic, while the New Testament was written in Greek, Hebrew. Bear in mind that these were subsequently translated into Latin and later on into English.

In between this translation process... also bear in mind that the process did not involve the use of a google translator, rather it was a manual and pain staking process of having to rewrite the entire scriptures by ink and scrolls and as such errors would be unavoidable in the process...

Starting this process by using the English Bible (preferably KJV or 1599 Geneva translation) is even a faulty foundation to start with...

The original context and content of the scriptures is to an extent lost in between all these translation errors... Even worse off are the subsequent translations of the English Bible into NIV and other translations...with further verses being diluted out of context all in a bid to "help the reader understand better"



Ever wondered why the Koran is preferably maintained in its Arabic format?

If you want to play game of contradictions...I've got tonnes of verses for everyone to feast on. The best way out of this is to get the original writings of the Bible in Hebrew and Greek...and translate them DIRECTLY to English... I think we have the privilege of google translator to help us here...

Thank you sir.
Pls help us out.

Emmanystone:
It is from here i will begin to ignore you.

no problem

Humanistme:


sovereign tyrant

Yet you are alive, isn't that funny?

butterflyl1on:


I didn't say it traumatised them. Was that the only thing you saw there? I said, Environmental factors such as trauma, stress, what we see and experience have been known to activate epigenetic changes. This is scientifically proven.

Why then did you pick only trauma?

okay. I have always wanted a child with blue eyes now I know exactly what to do

Emmanystone:
Yet you are alive, isn't that funny?

I'm alive and it's not funny

modified

bible quiz

who incited David to count the fighting men of israel

(A) the lord (B) Satan (C) emmanystone (D)A &B (E) all of the above


clue to the answer below


(2 Samuel 24: 1)

Again the anger of the LORD burned against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go and take a census of Israel and Judah."


1 Chronicles 21 King James Version (KJV)
And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

Humanistme:


yet we have 33000 denominations reading the same bible and drawing inspiration from the same spirit of truth while each of the denomination criticizes others for getting it wrong.

mind you I didn't invalid the entire bible. I said it should not be treated as infallible nothing made by man is infallible.

so sorry bro... the 33,000 denominations are reading different versions of the Bible...

take out personal time to research on the differences between King James Version or 1599 Geneva version to perhaps New Living Translation or Good news bible...

You'll begin to see one of the taproots of the confusion in the church...

Emmanystone:

But did Judas told them to do whatever they wanted with the money?

Yes he did but that doesn't mean he did whatever they end up doing with the money just like my giving someone money to do whatever they wanted to do with it doesn't mean I did whatever they did with it as the money seizes to be mine the moment I gave it away

Judas was Jew and Knew what he was getting into, so, he consent was involved in the decision that was taken concerning the money.

No! the only thing he consented to is that the money is no longer his just like my giving a homeless man a few dollar bills doesn't mean I've consented to whatever he ends up doing with it.
Otherwise employerr too should be arrested when the salary they paid to an employee end up being used to buy hard drugs

How do you explain these

"Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
Matthew:19:19

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke:14:26

OkCornel:


so sorry bro... the 33,000 denominations are reading different versions of the Bible...

take out personal time to research on the differences between King James Version or 1599 Geneva version to perhaps New Living Translation or Good news bible...

You'll begin to see the taproot of the confusion in the church...

exactly my point. different edited versions of the original bible written by over 40 flawed individuals should be believed with a pinch of salt. the bible wether English, Igbo, Hebrew or French is not infallible.

like Muslims say when they want to mock Christians ( even tho in their delusion they forget they have the same problem) ------ only a lie has different versions

Lol if I post my own na they would bring another useless excuse to defend it at least if I see an amputee's leg grow back due to prayers it might change my faith but how do you convince someone that believes that no evidence = more evidence to have FAITH? And giving them evidence = God is testing my FAITH?

butterflyl1on:


It is how epigenetics works. Environmental factors such as trauma, stress what we see and experience have been known to activate epigenetic changes. This is scientifically proven.

Epigenetic changes are biological markers on DNA that modify gene expression without altering the underlying sequence.

In other words, it can change skin colour, body markings but not the physical structure itself.

So epigenetic changes happen when mating in front of the white-streaked branches?

Keep telling lies for Jesus.

Epigenetics does NOT affect genes over all. So what the hell are you saying?

LordVoldermort:
How do you explain these

"Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."
Matthew:19:19

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke:14:26

The first verse is literal while the second verse you quoted is a metaphor. CASE SOLVED

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Genesis:3:14

How many snakes eat dust?

hopefulLandlord:

Yes he did but that doesn't mean he did whatever they end up doing with the money just like my giving someone money to do whatever they wanted to do with it doesn't mean I did whatever they did with it as the money seizes to be mine the moment I gave it away

No! the only thing he consented to is that the money is no longer his just like my giving a homeless man a few dollar bills doesn't mean I've consented to whatever he ends up doing with it.
Otherwise employers too should be arrested when the salary they paid to an employer end up being used to buy hard drugs

Oga stop adding salt and pepper. The focus is about what the money was used for. This money was already paid to Judas based on agreement and he already accepted it so it was legally his money. Him throwing the money at them does not translate to him giving them the money. He simply threw it down and left but legally it was still his money.

I ask again, the money used to buy the land was money paid to who?

dalaman:



So epigenetic changes happen when mating in front of the white-streaked branches?

Keep telling lies for Jesus.

Epigenetics does NOT affect genes over all. So what the hell are you saying?

You actually want to convince yourself that you are some kind of science student abi?

If you were then you should have understood what I posted and not commented ignorantly.

Translate this that I posted

Epigenetic changes are biological markers on DNA that modify gene expression without altering the underlying sequence.

In other words, it can change skin colour, body markings but not the physical structure itself

dalaman:



So epigenetic changes happen when mating in front of the white-streaked branches?

Keep telling lies for Jesus.

Epigenetics does NOT affect genes over all. So what the hell are you saying?

why are you spoiling my parole na? see me thinking I have finally figured out how to have blue eyed babies

LordVoldermort:
How do you explain these

"Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
Matthew:19:19

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke:14:26

First verse quoted was a statement of fact. Second verse talks about not putting parents first before the will of God including ones own will. It's about priorities.

They will love this topic they will never open a thread asking theist to present the contradictions for evolution theory
..evolution theory itself is so confusing some of them don't even understand it just like the Juche ideology

LordVoldermort:
How do you explain these

"Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
Matthew:19:19

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke:14:26

Honoring your parents ain't bad...as long as its not at the expense of pleasing God or being committed to what He requires of you...

Jesus lived a sacrificial life...yet He did not despise or look down his parents...neither did He have to sacrifice the essence of His ministry to please His family...


It's a tricky game of two extremes, and a healthy balance must be struck. How do you go about it? Let your conscience, intuition and the Spirit of the Almighty One guide you...

LordVoldermort:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Genesis:3:14

How many snakes eat dust?

Those days when we engage in races and we tell each other, "you will eat my dust" does that mean you actually eat dust?

OkCornel:


Honoring your parents ain't bad...as long as its not at the expense of pleasing God or being committed to what He requires of you...

Jesus lived a sacrificial life...yet He did not despise or look down his parents...neither did He have to sacrifice the essence of His ministry to please His family...


It's a tricky game of two extremes, and a healthy balance must be struck. How do you go about it? Let your conscience, intuition and the Spirit of the Almighty One guide you...

Exactly! All about priorities.

danvon:
They will love this topic they will never open a thread asking theist to present the contradictions for evolution theory
..evolution theory itself is so confusing some of them don't even understand it just like the Juche ideology

don't derail the topic pls more contradictions coming...

Humanistme:


exactly my point. different edited versions of the original bible written by over 40 flawed individuals should be believed with a pinch of salt. the bible wether English, Igbo, Hebrew or French is not infallible.

like Muslims say when they want to mock Christians ( even tho in their delusion they forget they have the same problem) ------ only a lie has different versions

Well...I advise one should seek out the Truth in the Bible and apply it in their lives. The truth works. For example, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes deals with a lot of hard core truth in the form of wise sayings...

Beyond the Bible, there are other books and ancient literatures I read to update myself on the Truth...

One piece of truth leads to another piece that never contradicts it...before you know it...you've assemble the jigsaw in order to have a grasp of the bigger picture...

Emmanystone:

Is that a lie or contradiction?

Pls post your thought. If you see it as a lie, say it.
Thanks.
And, pls don't just quote without posting the passages, then point out the contradictions in the passage.

Here is Matt 24:1-8
Good News Translation Matthew 27:3-8

The Death of Judas When Judas, the traitor, learned that Jesus had been condemned, he repented and took back the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders.

“I have sinned by betraying an innocent man to death!” he said. “What do we care about that?” they answered. “That is your business!”

Judas threw the coins down in the Temple and left; then he went off and hanged himself.

The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “This is blood money, and it is against our Law to put it in the Temple treasury.”

After reaching an agreement about it, they used the money to buy Potter's Field, as a cemetery for foreigners.

That is why that field is called “Field of Blood” to this very day.

Here is Act 1:16-18
Good News Translation Acts 1:16

“My friends,” he said, “the scripture had to come true in which the Holy Spirit, speaking through David, made a prediction about Judas, who was the guide for those who arrested Jesus.

Acts 1:17-18 Judas was a member of our group, for he had been chosen to have a part in our work.”

(With the money that Judas got for his evil act he bought a field, where he fell to his death; he burst open and all his insides spilled out.

Bro Hope. The message these verse intends to pass across is that, the money he got from that transaction bought him a burial place. For, a man needs to first die before a place of burial will be determined.

Remember he repented, took the money back, the Chief priest considered the money blood money, hence; rejected it. He didn't want it either, because he knew it was cursed money. Did he then took the money to buy a piece of land foe his burial, before coming to cast it at the temple? No.
Judah, never plan on dying, hence, he didn't make plans for his burial, but, he hung himself and brought the issue of his remains being buried.

The focus is on the money he made and how it was used, in consonance with the early prophecy about that, not on who bought the field were he was buried.

Well Acts 1:18 said judas didnt hang himself.

After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)

Humanistme:


don't derail the topic pls more contradictions coming...

So far all you have posted have been shown not to be contradictions so what MORE contradictions are you still referring to?

Aashik:

Well Acts 1:18 said judas didnt hang himself.

After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)

Correction! What we have there is not a contradiction but an explanation.

The book of acts was written by Luke who was a doctor. It is known that doctors offer detail to deaths.

Judas did not fall and have his middle burst open by a fall. In fact the skin is too tough to burst open just like that over a fall.

This is how it was viewed.

Person A: Judas hanged himself and stayed hanging for decay to set in and chemical pressure to set in

Person B (Luke) : Now talks about the aftermath of the hanging. Judas obviously began to decompose and this decomposition caused his skin to split due to internal pressure and his bowels to spill out as decay became advanced.

Still does not change the fact that Judas died / committed suicide.