MuttleyLaff:




I think we should advise him to copyright and trademark Mujtahida

hopefulLandlord:

Yes he did but that doesn't mean he did whatever they end up doing with the money just like my giving someone money to do whatever they wanted to do with it doesn't mean I did whatever they did with it as the money seizes to be mine the moment I gave it away

hopefulLandlord:

No! the only thing he consented to is that the money is no longer his just like my giving a homeless man a few dollar bills doesn't mean I've consented to whatever he ends up doing with it.

hopefulLandlord:

Otherwise employerr too should be arrested when the salary they paid to an employee end up being used to buy hard drugs

butterflyl1on:


So far all you have posted have been shown not to be contradictions so what MORE contradictions are you still referring to?

Mujtahida:
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This is what I agreed to. Nowhere did you say you'd open a thread with my moniker on it as part of the title. You didn't say 'give me the go ahead to open the thread with your moniker as part of the title.' So stand by what I agreed to. Open the thread without my moniker as part of the title and we are good. Already I've even given preliminary instances of lies in the bible showing that I am ready for this challenge.

Cc Emmanystone

butterflyl1on:


Good. Since you said WITHIN the days, is this not referring to a time bracket? What you said is simply WITHIN A BRACKET OF DAYS. This is you saying something like IN THE DAYS OF YOUR YOUTH. Your youth was sure but the time span of your youth is not stated. You only gave a time bracket.

Were you once a youth? Yes

Did you say WHEN you were a youth? No

Did your statement imply a time bracket of your youth period? Yes.

I hope you get it now?

Mujtahida:

By fiat? Even when I ask in the most polite terms that you take off my moniker you insist it must be there? OK.

I will open a thread and post the contradictions and lies there. My moniker on this thread is a trophy for you. Carry am go chop eba.

Cos all you needed to do was to open a thread and make an introductory remark, mention me and i'd show up.

Emmanystone:

You challenged me by saying my book was full of contradictions, historical untruths, absurdities and lies, and i asked you if i shd open a thread to that effect if you could provide the errors in the Bible? You said yes ago ahead.

This thread was to bear your name because you challenged me. I took the bait and here we are.

Infact, it shd have just been you and i in this thread, others would have just been observers.

Pls, let's go on with the Business of you providing me with the errors in my Bible.

No body knows you by your moniker outside here anyways. You never even knew i was female till today. It's just a moniker.

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha@failed woefully. Those are just preliminary observations. Just remove my moniker from the thread title. I didn't give you permission to use my moniker to open the thread. You could have opened it and simply mentioned me.

If you think I'm one to chicken out of a challenge of this nature you don't have no clue

Emmanystone:

You agreed to have ago at me. So do it.

I remember once Ambasagod asked Hop.efullandlord if he was ready to engage him, and if he shd open a thread for them to have a go at each other, Hope.fullandlord agreed, the thread was opened with Hopeful.landlord's moniker plastered on the title, he didn't cry.
Why are you crying?

ShadowFighter:


This is one contradiction nobody have been able to explain fully.

Emmanystone:

Hmmm. You seem to be new here. It's no big deal that your moniker is there nah.

Lolzzzzzzz. This debate na me and you o. You want be ghost before? You can't challenge me and disappear.

I keep saying this to you atheists, i'm a different kind of breed. I'm not timid. You guys have a way of thinking Christians ought to run and hide when you launch out. Sorry, if you come at me, i will be right here.

If you open another thread instead of this, i won't appear there.

Mujtahida:
I am not hopeful.landlord, am I? Stick to the terms of our agreement. Simple.

Mujtahida:
You assume too much. I am an atheist because I don't believe in Jehovah, the Jewish idol? You assume too much.
Disappear how? When I'd be on the thread gidigba but for you using my moniker on the title? Argument na my work ooo not to talk of arguing against a religion I detest so much. It's too small a challenge.

MuttleyLaff:
Ah-ha what is it now?
Why are you so attached to the Mujtahida ID?
What's so special about it that are so sentimental over it?
Does it vomit bundles of money after twelve midnight?
What is it gangan?
You're increasingly turning into a drip with this your whining now raised to the power 2

Sarassin:

And how many Abiathar's who were High Priests at the time of King David, in whose temple David ate Holy bread do you suppose existed or were recorded?

hopefulLandlord:


This is so true

Imagine, Abijah spoke to 1,200,000 soldiers at one time with no amplifier. Even Yahweh never managed to do that lol

OkCornel:


So if Jesus has fulfilled the Law...are you now obliged to follow the Law He fulfilled?

Can you please read up Acts 15?

Mujtahida:
Ohhhhhh pleasssse. Get a hang. Don't push me to become caustic as I can well be cos I get the undertones of your comments. Get off my back! Na your moniker?
Emmanystone has been polite in her positions and that's what I expect from any other person. Mutual respect. If you want to be insultive by throwing subtle shades I will just ignore you. If you think you can railroad me particularly with your hounding pursuit then omo you are on the wrong Road. You'd hit a brickwall.

Mujtahida:
I respect you.
If you cannot extend the same grace to me then there's no basis for discussing with you

Emmanystone:

Brother, abeg nah, stop. Which law did Jesus fulfill? Tje sacrificial laws or moral laws? Aren't the moral laws of Moses still binding on us today?

When Jesus was asked which commandment was the greatest, wasn't it the 10 Commandment of Moses?

Jesus was the sacrificial lamb the Jews always sacrificed to cover their sins, when he died, that ended. But other 'thou shall not steal, commit adultery, lie and kill' are still binding on us till tomorrow.

No one can separate Christianity from Judaism.

Mujtahida:
'.

This is what I agreed to. Nowhere did you say you'd open a thread with my moniker on it as part of the title. You didn't say 'give me the go ahead to open the thread with your moniker as part of the title.' So stand by what I agreed to. Open the thread without my moniker as part of the title and we are good. Already I've even given preliminary instances of lies in the bible showing that I am ready for this challenge.

Cc Emmanystone

Emmanystone:

Brother, abeg nah, stop. Which law did Jesus fulfill? Tje sacrificial laws or moral laws? Aren't the moral laws of Moses still binding on us today?

When Jesus was asked which commandment was the greatest, wasn't it the 10 Commandment of Moses?

Jesus was the sacrificial lamb the Jews always sacrificed to cover their sins, when he died, that ended. But other 'thou shall not steal, commit adultery, lie and kill' are still binding on us till tomorrow.

No one can separate Christianity from Judaism.

Mujtahida:

It's just a simple request but though simple it means a lot to me. Opening the thread with my moniker wasnt what I agreed to. Since you are not minded to oblige me then I excuse myself from the thread. But for the record I'd open a thread and post the lies and contradictions and absurdities and historical untruths in your book.

Emmanystone:

Brother, abeg nah, stop. Which law did Jesus fulfill? Tje sacrificial laws or moral laws? Aren't the moral laws of Moses still binding on us today?

When Jesus was asked which commandment was the greatest, wasn't it the 10 Commandment of Moses?

Jesus was the sacrificial lamb the Jews always sacrificed to cover their sins, when he died, that ended. But other 'thou shall not steal, commit adultery, lie and kill' are still binding on us till tomorrow.

No one can separate Christianity from Judaism.

Emmanystone:

Can you see clearly why your moniker needs to be there. 'pls give me the go ahead to open a thread... You present, i treat, was the wager, It was meant for just both of us. Your moniker being there tells everyone that you are the main focus here. You present, i treat

OkCornel:


1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)

Acts 15

1 Then came down certain from Judea, and taught the brethren, saying, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

2 And when there was great dissension, and disputation by Paul and Barnabas against them, they ordained that Paul and Barnabas, and certain others of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the Apostles and Elders about this question.

3 Thus being brought forth by the Church, they passed through Phoenicia and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles, and they brought great joy unto all the brethren.

4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the Church, and of the Apostles and Elders, and they declared what things God had done by them.

5 But said they, certain of the sect of the Pharisees, which did believe, rose up, saying that it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the Law of Moses.

6 Then the Apostles and Elders came together to look to this matter.

7 And when there had been great disputation, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Ye men and brethren, ye know that a good while ago, among us God chose out me, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the Gospel, and believe.

8 And God which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, in giving unto them the holy Ghost even as he did unto us.

9 And he put no difference between us and them, after that by faith he had purified their hearts.

10 Now therefore, why tempt ye God, to lay a yoke on the disciples’ necks, which neither our fathers, nor we were able to bear?

11 But we believe, through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved, even as they do.

12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and heard Barnabas and Paul, which told what signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles by them.

13 And when they held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me.

14 Simeon hath declared, how God first did visit the Gentiles, to take of them a people unto his Name.

15 And to this agree the words of the Prophets, as it is written,

16 After this I will return, and will build again the Tabernacle of David, which is fallen down, and the ruins thereof will I build again, and I will set it up.

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles upon whom my Name is called, saith the Lord which doeth all these things.

18 From the beginning of the world, God knoweth all his works.

19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them of the Gentiles that are turned to God,

20 But that we send unto them, that they abstain themselves from filthiness of idols, and fornication, and that is strangled, and from blood.

21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, seeing he is read in the Synagogues every Sabbath day.

22 Then it seemed good to the Apostles and Elders with the whole Church to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas: to wit, Judas whose surname was Barsabas, and Silas, which were chief men among the brethren,

23 And wrote letters by them after this manner, THE APOSTLES, and the Elders, and the brethren, Unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch, and in Syria, and in Cilicia, send greeting.

24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us, have troubled you with words, and cumbered your minds, saying, Ye must be circumcised and keep the Law: to whom we gave no such commandment,

25 It seemed therefore good to us, when we were come together with one accord, to [send] chosen men unto you, with our beloved Barnabas and Paul.

26 Men that have [v]given up their lives for the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

27 We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, which shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

28 [w]For it seemed good to the [x]holy Ghost, and [y]to us, to lay no more burden upon you, than these [z]necessary things.

29 [aa]That is, that ye abstain from things offered to idols, and blood, and that that is strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

30 [ab]Now when they were departed, they came to Antioch, and after that they had assembled the multitude, they delivered the Epistle,

31 And when they had read it, they rejoiced for the consolation.

32 And Judas and Silas being Prophets, exhorted the brethren with many words, and strengthened them.

33 And after they had tarried there a space, they were let go in [ac]peace of the brethren unto the Apostles.

OkCornel:


Then explain what happened in Acts 15.

If you love God and man, you have fulfilled and surpassed what the Law requires of you...These are Jesus' words not mine...

Thank you.

Mujtahida:
Ordinary literal rule of interpretation. Have you read Merchant of Venice, the part about the pound of flesh? It's simple ooo: give me the go ahead to open a thread is not the same as opening the said thread with my moniker on it. Two entirely different thing

Mujtahida:

You assume too much. I am an atheist because I don't believe in Jehovah, the Jewish idol? You assume too much.
Disappear how? When I'd be on the thread gidigba but for you using my moniker on the title? Argument na my work ooo not to talk of arguing against a religion I detest so much. It's too small a challenge.

Mujtahida:

I am not hopeful.landlord, am I? Stick to the terms of our agreement. Simple.

Mujtahida:

Ordinary literal rule of interpretation. Have you read Merchant of Venice, the part about the pound of flesh? It's simple ooo: give me the go ahead to open a thread is not the same as opening the said thread with my moniker on it. Two entirely different thing

OkCornel:


Carefully go through the verses I highlighted in red & purple and the ones I bolded. You will see the difference between Judaism and Christianity just as you can easily differentiate night from day...

The Law is not binding on Christians to follow...and bear in mind that the Law is not just the 10 commandments...there are over 400 instructions that makes up the Laws of Moses...

Say no to Judeo-Christianity...

Emmanystone:

Okay, i will remove your moniker there, but how will folks know the motive for the thread?

See why you don't go challenging people? This is nothing compared to what you may have to confront in other situations when you make boast and challenge people.

Suggest what i shd replace your moniker with since you engineered this thread.

Pls give me the go ahead to open a thread for the contradictions, lies, absurdities, and historical untruths in the Bible. And, promise to stay through while we trash these issues out.

You present them, i treat them.

I'm waiting to hear you say 'Go ahead'.

Mujtahida:
In the first place in real terms, I didn't challenge you. Not at all.

My response was I accept
This is no challenge to you. So I think you got it wrong from the get go. And that influenced your mind in putting my moniker on the thread title. In context it was more like you opening a thread where I point out Bible lies and contradictions and you treat them.

So your title thread should read: Debate: Lies, contradictions and absurdities in the Bible and a Christian's appropriate responses to them.

When you do this or something in this vein, then you make an introductory remarks that I said that the Bible is full of contradictions and lies. This thread is an open debate where I (mujtahida) presents the lies and contradictions and absurdities and you treat them. And like you have already done, invite others. We'd discuss in an atmosphere free of acrimony and insults.

This was my expectation. I commend you for being courteous cos you have maintained a line of conversation with me that I personally find endearing. Cos any hint of disrespect is to open the door for insults and bad words to start flowing. I don't want that cos I can be acidic dishing out insults. I notice an idiot on this thread( whom I had long suspected to be an idiot but confirmed it today) and I will treat him with the scorn and contempt he deserves.