Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:31pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
You are still being stupid My friend , why didn't Darby translate theos as " a god" in John 1:1? Simple question see how you chase your tail....but Darby contradicts the NWT in John 1:1 because Darby says God, not " a god"
illiterates
Am happy you are getting frustrated as your various lies are getting nailed. Continue to pour your frustrations through insult. It changes nothing Malachi 3:1 Darby says Angel Malachi 3:1 NWT says Messenger. Any difference ? No, both are same judging from the root word Your sense want them to use same wording when they didn't at Malachi 3:1 , the point is NWT translation of John 1:1 is not wrong. As evidenced by Darby doing same at Act 8:26 Until you prove that Darby is wrong at Act 28:6 , then NWT is right. Is Jesus the Angelic Being Michael? See how you can't even answer this question...... an question your Organization will be proud to answer but here you are, you can't even answer.... stupid dog..
Michael is an ARCH angel Fellow, has frustration carried you to this extent ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 4:35pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
Okay guys let's start: I can't stop laughing see how they are pooing every where..
You said:
"The children are human too
Explain what that Hebrews mean !!!
Real chicken , don't be scared to explain"
Youbm see how stupid you are? I did explain I said
Well according to the same bible he shared in the nature of human.
we need to go to the context to see what it means. Phil 2 was where the comparison of the two natures was made. Nature of God and Nature of man, you run to Hebrews a different book written in a different context to make a stupid claim. And the claim you make doesn't mean anything because Phil 2 didn't say anything about Children but HUMAN BEING, Human. If we both believe the writer of hebrew is the same Paul why DIDNT he use the same wording for that? You were making a stupid claim about the likeness of men and I challenged you it was human being, being referred to, and challenged you to bring Phil 2:6-7 from your NWT. You didn't and you run to Hebrews 1, where the word human is bodly written in Phil 2:7.
You said: "Wait sef , who deny it means human"
So since we are not denying that the Children and Adam being spoken about there are humans, Human being ... why are you still stupidly asking again? children there is human being..Period
So which nature did he share with the humans? Perfect Human Nature.. Jesus came as the first man was in the garden sinless Man, perfect man..... I've answered several times..are You blind My friend?
You said;
"A fake Christian dismiss Scripture as irrelevant. Scripture Cannot be broken, it wont contradict ...Why not explain since you know the context ?"
you are such a baby, I did explain to you... He came in the likeness of humans. As a human being... a perfect,sinless Human being. Phil 2 compared Nature of God to man. Period.... Hebrews is irrelevant in this case because that's written in another context.... ..why are these guys so dumb...
My friend , why are you making a mockery out of yourself?
You said
"Jesus never denied been (being) an offspring of David, he just want them to know he is bigger , higher and exists before David"
So if He's bigger,higher and exists before David, how can He be the Son of David? So since he didnt deny it then God can also be the Son, right? Because according to you
Jesus wanted them to know He is bigger than David,higher than David, exists before David.. He is David's Lord because David called Him Lord, He's David's master.. but the master, bigger one, higher one became the Son of the servant and Lower one. So now David is Jesus' "father" right? So the father is equal to son right? Because now david as father has authority over his son who also had authority over him.So How can the bigger become the Son of the lesser.. so per this analogy of yours God the master,bigger, higher can become the Son of the Lesser... .. you see how simple that was? .... i hope you can understand.... you were the one shouting here that God is the Lord of Jesus,.so Jesus cannot be the same God, because God is His masters but now you are telling us that the master can be the servant... so you see how stupid you are? ..idiots...
You see you know nothing about the scriptures,
You said:
"Spirit of man is Not man . if it is, that means Jesus went to heaven the day he died since his spirit return to the Father. Luke 23:46" irrelevant, My Friend be focus.... so where was Jesus' spirit?...
You continued:
"Genesis 2:7 Jehovah went on to form the man out of dust.
He was called MAN even without Spirit in him , when he was just dust"
see how silly you sound....so why didn't "man" start walking, eating, drinking etc? Why did Yahweh breath into the man? For what? Idiot... man became a living being only when Yahweh breathed life into him. Your man was just a doll, without a soul and a spirit. So Yahweh knowing well his Man wasn't complete breathed life into him..... so the Spirit of man is man my friend.. stop being more stupid.... .... now you Are a doll.. See how for the sake of arguments you look stupid...
Your stupidity continues:
"Hahahahahaha at highlighted, so who then ... For you to claim it isn't God the Father , you must have gotten evidence of who ... Tell us ?"
See your face, you can't even laugh well.. .... you see sometimes it's difficult talking to a fool when you are not one... I am not claiming anything, it is Paul that says God, or have you forgotten there's God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and these three are God? Paul was speaking about God. And I told you if Paul refers to the Father he says God the Father.... even my dog understands English...
You said:
"If the spirit of God is same Him Who is the Him ? God .? Which God cos there areany Gods ?"
Okay I accept you are dumb so let me lay it out for you well
GOD the Father is God
God the Son Is God
GOD the Holy Spirit is God
So the Holy Spirit is the same as God.....you see how silly you sound? It is your organization that believe there are many gods.. pagans... you teach it and preach it, pagans.....
You continue:
"His Firstborn says some versions"
And The firstborn says other versions ... are you that stupid??...the and his are two different things, the boy is not his boy? Stop being an idiot...
My friend the Greek is clear, stop being a fool...your own kingdom interlinear has "the" not his... I tell you, they always make a fool out of you..
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/kingdom-interlinear-greek-translation/books/hebrews/1/
Now interesting part...
You said:
"Okay, Mountains are not among Gods creations ?
I need an answer"
I will give it my dear,
Well according to the psalm you are so sure of, God gave birth to the mountains, correct?
And I'm telling from your own verse that it's there that God born not create the mountains....
Show me where it said that God created the mountains?
Okay let me make it easy for you, show me where it specifically says in scripture that God created the mountains?
My friend the writer should know mountains were among his creations right? Why didn't he use create which would have been so clear and obvious but he said Born....so ask the writer not me... ...
In answering my question:
We are dealing with what it means when God born .
Well dictionary didn't say when "God born" is different from when "Humans or animals born" right? Born is born correct?..why are such block headed..
So answer my question
Were you born by your mother or were created by Her? Assuming the word create and born are the same"
So answer that question about mountain" I did...
True, trinity collect people's senses. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 4:43pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 4:55pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Barristter07:
Am happy you are getting frustrated as your various lies are getting nailed. Continue to pour your frustrations through insult. It changes nothing
Malachi 3:1 Darby says Angel
Malachi 3:1 NWT says Messenger.
Any difference ? No, both are same judging from the root word
Your sense want them to use same wording when they didn't at Malachi 3:1 , the point is NWT translation of John 1:1 is not wrong. As evidenced by Darby doing same at Act 8:26
Until you prove that Darby is wrong at Act 28:6 , then NWT is right.
Michael is an ARCH angel
Fellow, has frustration carried you to this extent ? My friend stop being stupid... Darby translation John 1:1 In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GodNWT In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God, and the Word was a godHow are these two the same....you are just a scared little dog....everyone will see how stupid you guys are.... My friend, Arch angel so what? Is an Arch angel not an angel? You run to messenger now you say Arch angel... We have all agreed that Jesus is no angel since no angel was begotten of God.... period ..... let my readers judge.. obviously you will jumb to some silly assumption again... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 4:57pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 5:07pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Finally you respond after many sleepless nights and when you finally decide to respond . all you can do is copy your half baked repetitions SINCE you have no where to go again. Good, let's start zodiakzax:
Okay guys let's start: I can't stop laughing see how they are pooing every where..
You said:
"The children are human too
Explain what that Hebrews mean !!!
Real chicken , don't be scared to explain"
Youbm see how stupid you are? I did explain I said
Well according to the same bible he shared in the nature of human.
we need to go to the context to see what it means. Phil 2 was where the comparison of the two natures was made. Nature of God and Nature of man, you run to Hebrews a different book written in a different context to make a stupid claim. And the claim you make doesn't mean anything because Phil 2 didn't say anything about Children but HUMAN BEING, Human
Scripture cannot be broken. Anyone who said the bold is a Liar. You clearly recognize that you are hooked . Similar to the Children ... Why are you vibrating on this ? . If we both believe the writer of hebrew is the same Paul why DIDNT he use the same wording for that? You were making a stupid claim about the likeness of men and I challenged you it was human being, being referred to, and challenged you to bring Phil 2:6-7 from your NWT. You didn't and you run to Hebrews 1, where the word human is bodly written in Phil 2:7.
Likeness of men... Yes . But its a nature Similar to the Children. Why not explain this with sum and substance ? #1 Lies of your sum and substance are now exposed !!! You said: "Wait sef , who deny it means human"
So since we are not denying that the Children and Adam being spoken about there are humans, Human being ... why are you still stupidly asking again? children there is human being..Period
So which nature did he share with the humans? Perfect Human Nature.. Jesus came as the first man was in the garden sinless Man, perfect man..... I've answered several times..are You blind My friend?
You said;
"A fake Christian dismiss Scripture as irrelevant. Scripture Cannot be broken, it wont contradict ...Why not explain since you know the context ?"
you are such a baby, I did explain to you... He came in the likeness of humans. As a human being... a perfect,sinless Human being. Phil 2 compared Nature of God to man. Period.
Nature similar to the children ... Are the children perfect ? Zodiakzax see your life outside
... Hebrews is irrelevant in this case because that's written in another context.... ..why are these guys so dumb...
The bold is irrelevant, NOT Hebrews ... Can you explain the context ? No , You see your life. Don't forget we are discussing Is nature as human which Hebrew shed light on. Again, Scripture harmonize NOT broken. You are behaving as a Fake Christian for trying to separate bible books as contradictory. My friend , why are you making a mockery out of yourself?
You said
"Jesus never denied been (being) an offspring of David, he just want them to know he is bigger , higher and exists before David"
So if He's bigger,higher and exists before David, how can He be the Son of David? So since he didnt deny it then God can also be the Son, right? Because according to you
Jesus wanted them to know He is bigger than David,higher than David, exists before David.. He is David's Lord because David called Him Lord, He's David's master.. but the master, bigger one, higher one became the Son of the servant and Lower one. So now David is Jesus' "father" right? So the father is equal to son right? Because now david as father has authority over his son who also had authority over him.So How can the bigger become the Son of the lesser.. so per this analogy of yours God the master,bigger, higher can become the Son of the Lesser... .. you see how simple that was? .... i hope you can understand.... you were the one shouting here that God is the Lord of Jesus,.so Jesus cannot be the same God, because God is His masters but now you are telling us that the master can be the servant... so you see how stupid you are? ..idiots...
You see you know nothing about the scriptures,
You said:
He became a son of David because he was made a little lower than angels and born in human nature. That doesn't apply to his uncreated Father. Jesus was still his servant even after resurrection
"Spirit of man is Not man . if it is, that means Jesus went to heaven the day he died since his spirit return to the Father. Luke 23:46" irrelevant, My Friend be focus.... so where was Jesus' spirit?...
With his Father in heaven Any objection ?
You continued:
"Genesis 2:7 Jehovah went on to form the man out of dust.
He was called MAN even without Spirit in him , when he was just dust"
see how silly you sound....so why didn't "man" start walking, eating, drinking etc? Why did Yahweh breath into the man? For what? Idiot... man became a living being only when Yahweh breathed life into him. Your man was just a doll, without a soul and a spirit. So Yahweh knowing well his Man wasn't complete breathed life into him..... so the Spirit of man is man my friend.. stop being more stupid.... .... now you Are a doll.. See how for the sake of arguments you look stupid...
Read the bold , Man became a living being or soul senseless person, " MAN " became What is Man ? The dust. I never discuss becoming a living being, your position was man didn't exist without spirit or soul . and that proved it false. Your stupidity continues:
"Hahahahahaha at highlighted, so who then ... For you to claim it isn't God the Father , you must have gotten evidence of who ... Tell us ?"
See your face, you can't even laugh well.. .... you see sometimes it's difficult talking to a fool when you are not one... I am not claiming anything, it is Paul that says God, or have you forgotten there's God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and these three are God? Paul was speaking about God. And I told you if Paul refers to the Father he says God the Father.... even my dog understands English...
You said:
"If the spirit of God is same Him Who is the Him ? God .? Which God cos there areany Gods ?"
Okay I accept you are dumb so let me lay it out for you well
GOD the Father is God
God the Son Is God
GOD the Holy Spirit is God
So the Holy Spirit is the same as God.....you see how silly you sound? It is your organization that believe there are many gods.. pagans... you teach it and preach it, pagans.....
You lack sense. Here is the scripture again No one knows the thought of God except the spirit of God. . God here cannot be Father, Son and Holy spirit. As you claim Because it clearly mentions holy spirit DIFFERENTLY ... God must either refer to the Father or Son . Why are you scared to identify who ? Bobo don hang. I want response
You continue:
"His Firstborn says some versions"
And The firstborn says other versions ... are you that stupid??...the and his are two different things, the boy is not his boy? Stop being an idiot...
My friend the Greek is clear, stop being a fool...your own kingdom interlinear has "the" not his... I tell you, they always make a fool out of you..
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/kingdom-interlinear-greek-translation/books/hebrews/1/
Silly response The first BORN of who ? Now interesting part...
You said:
"Okay, Mountains are not among Gods creations ?
I need an answer"
I will give it my dear,
Well according to the psalm you are so sure of, God gave birth to the mountains, correct?
And I'm telling from your own verse that it's there that God born not create the mountains....
Show me where it said that God created the mountains?
Okay let me make it easy for you, show me where it specifically says in scripture that God created the mountains?
My friend the writer should know mountains were among his creations right? Why didn't he use create which would have been so clear and obvious but he said Born....so ask the writer not me... ...
In answering my question:
We are dealing with what it means when God born .
Well dictionary didn't say when "God born" is different from when "Humans or animals born" right? Born is born correct?..why are such block headed..
See dribble on top small question . Mountains are born not created shey? U know within yourself that u are lying. Am glad this is clear Act 4:24 says " . 24 they lifted their voices ptogether to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them " , Everything in them include MOUNTAINS , now when they are described as BORN ... Can you now see the meaning now ?
So answer my question
Were you born by your mother or were created by Her? Assuming the word create and born are the same"
God Created me through them. Thats why children are gift from God
So answer that question about mountain" I did...
You lied if you think u did. Now go back and answer , since act 4:24 has expose your games 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 5:20pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
My friend stop being stupid...
Darby translation John 1:1
In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
NWT
In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god
How are these two the same....you are just a scared little dog....everyone will see how stupid you guys are....
Your premise was to prove that NWT is wrong.. But the Fact reveal that the above cannot be the yardstick since Darby DID THE EXACT same thing elsewhere. Until you proved that wrong. I will take you serious
My friend, Arch angel so what? Is an Arch angel not an angel? You run to messenger now you say Arch angel...
Micheal is an Arch angel
We have all agreed that Jesus is no angel since no angel was begotten of God.... period ..... let my readers judge.. obviously you will jumb to some silly assumption again...
The problem is that the image in your head is not what the Bible teach about angels, even human beings are called ANGELS in the Bible . it simply means Messenger Malachi 3:1 calls him an Angel [ Greek aggelos] Jesus isn't among the Angels of Hebrews 1:5 , he is the ARCH or Commander of them , because he has been made better than them by inheriting a name better than theirs .. Former companions verse 9 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 5:28pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
Look at this idiot too, yeah right you know about the bible before you are disgracing yourselves here. You Tatime a stupid Muslim want to come and teach Christians the bible.. when you were confronted about your silly mistake didn't you run away? You think I hide behind social media, stupid kid, come to my area and see how you stupid JW's are scared when they see me.... See sef Somebody vibrating to explain the nature of Jesus in relation Children with sum and substance is claiming to be feared ? Somebody who said the holy spirit knows the thought of God but cannot identify who he meant by God ... Only to say holy spirit knows the thought of Father , Son and ANOTHER holy spirit again . na that one dem go fear ? Somebody who said man doesn't exist without spirit only to be proven False ... Really ? Somebody who runs around when he was asked if mountains been born means created , something a 6 year old will answer reasonably ... Na that one dem go fear ? You are wasting your time. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 7:05pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Barristter07:
See sef
Somebody vibrating to explain the nature of Jesus in relation Children with sum and substance is claiming to be feared ?
Somebody who said the holy spirit knows the thought of God but cannot identify who he meant by God ... Only to say holy spirit knows the thought of Father , Son and ANOTHER holy spirit again . na that one dem go fear ?
Somebody who said man doesn't exist without spirit only to be proven False ... Really ?
Somebody who runs around when he was asked if mountains been born means created , something a 6 year old will answer reasonably ... Na that one dem go fear ?
You are wasting your time. Last last I know you are still looking for a way to explain to us how Jesus Christ is an angel. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 7:21pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Barristter07:
Your premise was to prove that NWT is wrong..
But the Fact reveal that the above cannot be the yardstick since Darby DID THE EXACT same thing elsewhere. Until you proved that wrong. I will take you serious
Micheal is an Arch angel
The problem is that the image in your head is not what the Bible teach about angels, even human beings are called ANGELS in the Bible . it simply means Messenger
Malachi 3:1 calls him an Angel [ Greek aggelos]
Jesus isn't among the Angels of Hebrews 1:5 , he is the ARCH or Commander of them , because he has been made better than them by inheriting a name better than theirs .. Former companions verse 9
Now Jesus Christ isnt among angels described in hebrews1:5 but he is arch or commander says the assumer. Lol You have to assume to explain yourself. Malachi 3:1 says messenger. Stop assuming. You want to force angel into the verse. You will soon say it looks like is Jesus Christ that is the messenger. So since Michael is commander angel therefore he is not an Angel? I no fit laff. You will soon say a commander of an army is not an army member. Lol See people dey struggle to show where Jesus Christ is called angel Michael. After keeping quiet for 2 days only to come out with speculation from your own assumption 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 7:23pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Barristter07: Finally you respond after many sleepless nights and when you finally decide to respond . all you can do is copy your half baked repetitions SINCE you have no where to go again.
Good, let's start
Scripture cannot be broken. Anyone who said the bold is a Liar. You clearly recognize that you are hooked .
Similar to the Children ... Why are you vibrating on this ?
Likeness of men... Yes .
But its a nature Similar to the Children. Why not explain this with sum and substance ?
#1 Lies of your sum and substance are now exposed !!!
Nature similar to the children ... Are the children perfect ?
Zodiakzax see your life outside
The bold is irrelevant, NOT Hebrews ... Can you explain the context ? No ,
You see your life.
Don't forget we are discussing Is nature as human which Hebrew shed light on.
Again, Scripture harmonize NOT broken.
You are behaving as a Fake Christian for trying to separate bible books as contradictory.
He became a son of David because he was made a little lower than angels and born in human nature.
That doesn't apply to his uncreated Father.
Jesus was still his servant even after resurrection
With his Father in heaven
Any objection ?
Read the bold , Man became a living being or soul senseless person, " MAN " became
What is Man ? The dust.
I never discuss becoming a living being, your position was man didn't exist without spirit or soul . and that proved it false.
You lack sense. Here is the scripture again
No one knows the thought of God except the spirit of God. .
God here cannot be Father, Son and Holy spirit. As you claim Because it clearly mentions holy spirit DIFFERENTLY ... God must either refer to the Father or Son .
Why are you scared to identify who ?
Bobo don hang.
I want response
Silly response
The first BORN of who ?
See dribble on top small question . Mountains are born not created shey? U know within yourself that u are lying. Am glad this is clear
Act 4:24 says
" . 24 they lifted their voices ptogether to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them " ,
Everything in them include MOUNTAINS , now when they are described as BORN ... Can you now see the meaning now ?
God Created me through them. Thats why children are gift from God
You lied if you think u did.
Now go back and answer , since act 4:24 has expose your games Ephraim and David are Yahweh's firstborns so they are first created, they are born first, they were brought forth into existence first. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 7:46pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Barristter07: Finally you respond after many sleepless nights and when you finally decide to respond . all you can do is copy your half baked repetitions SINCE you have no where to go again.
Good, let's start
Scripture cannot be broken. Anyone who said the bold is a Liar. You clearly recognize that you are hooked .
Similar to the Children ... Why are you vibrating on this ?
Likeness of men... Yes .
But its a nature Similar to the Children. Why not explain this with sum and substance ?
#1 Lies of your sum and substance are now exposed !!!
Nature similar to the children ... Are the children perfect ?
Zodiakzax see your life outside
The bold is irrelevant, NOT Hebrews ... Can you explain the context ? No ,
You see your life.
Don't forget we are discussing Is nature as human which Hebrew shed light on.
Again, Scripture harmonize NOT broken.
You are behaving as a Fake Christian for trying to separate bible books as contradictory.
He became a son of David because he was made a little lower than angels and born in human nature.
That doesn't apply to his uncreated Father.
Jesus was still his servant even after resurrection
With his Father in heaven
Any objection ?
Read the bold , Man became a living being or soul senseless person, " MAN " became
What is Man ? The dust.
I never discuss becoming a living being, your position was man didn't exist without spirit or soul . and that proved it false.
You lack sense. Here is the scripture again
No one knows the thought of God except the spirit of God. .
God here cannot be Father, Son and Holy spirit. As you claim Because it clearly mentions holy spirit DIFFERENTLY ... God must either refer to the Father or Son .
Why are you scared to identify who ?
Bobo don hang.
I want response
Silly response
The first BORN of who ?
See dribble on top small question . Mountains are born not created shey? U know within yourself that u are lying. Am glad this is clear
Act 4:24 says
" . 24 they lifted their voices ptogether to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them " ,
Everything in them include MOUNTAINS , now when they are described as BORN ... Can you now see the meaning now ?
God Created me through them. Thats why children are gift from God
You lied if you think u did.
Now go back and answer , since act 4:24 has expose your games You see how we coordinate.... that's why I like you Barristter07, even though you are also stupid at least your stupidity can be condoned.... he became a son of David because he was made lower than the Angels ... interesting... I can't stop laughing, I will reply shortly, today's is my wife's birthday so have to do another stupid thing by taking her out..you know women... also very stupid and silly like you guys sometimes... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 7:50pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 7:58pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 8:55pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
Look at this idiot too, yeah right you know about the bible before you are disgracing yourselves here. You Tatime a stupid Muslim want to come and teach Christians the bible.. when you were confronted about your silly mistake didn't you run away? You think I hide behind social media, stupid kid, come to my area and see how you stupid JW's are scared when they see me.... Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5 It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26 For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you! So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20 God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 9:40pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
TATIME: Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5 It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26 For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you! So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20 God bless you! Yeah that's it Brother BLESS UP... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:23pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
TATIME: Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 {1 John 2:26-27} I have written these things to you about those who are trying to deceive you. And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His TRUE and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught. I suppose this is a good reason why we don't listen to you-and besides you don't come to us bringing with you the true gospel, "so if you are not going to preach to us the truth, then you give us no choice 'to rebuke you in the Name of Jesus! {Hebrews 8:10-11} For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their minds, and inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people. No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest. If you knew Christ you wouldn't dare bring another doctrine to me.. TATIME: with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. {Galatians 2:16} know that a man is not justified by works of the Law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. JW's is known only by works, if your faith had any meaning to it, I wouldn't be having this conversation! TATIME: Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5 It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26 For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you! So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20 God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:41pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/8257655_img20180802204508696_jpegf63922746e60da08568244ab1a466884Some of these are beggars forced to hold up signs to feed themselves and their families. If I was given a Watch tower Magazine, would I be in one of these photo's too? TATIME: Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5 It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26 For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you! So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20 God bless you! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:48pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:
Now Jesus Christ isnt among angels described in hebrews1:5 but he is arch or commander says the assumer. Lol
You have to assume to explain yourself. Malachi 3:1 says messenger. Stop assuming.
You want to force angel into the verse. You will soon say it looks like is Jesus Christ that is the messenger.
So since Michael is commander angel therefore he is not an Angel? I no fit laff. You will soon say a commander of an army is not an army member. Lol
See people dey struggle to show where Jesus Christ is called angel Michael.
After keeping quiet for 2 days only to come out with speculation from your own assumption |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 10:53pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
OneJ:
Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....
Let's consider these examples:
1a. This house was built through me. 1 b, This house was built by me Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing. (1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership. (1b) is saying that one person alone built it.
https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm "God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3
NLT,GNT.NASB.CSB.ESV.WNT.YLT.ISV.GWT.HCSB.WEB.NIV etc. "And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10. "DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."
https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm
"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation..." (Aramaic Bible in English)
" The Lord (Jehovah/Yahweh) created me first of all...." NHEB Prov 8:30 "I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence" " Christ is the wisdom of God" 1 cor 1:21,24. The truth is crystal clear. false jw onej of course you don't believe God and go to lengths to change what He said through His inspired Bible writers but your searching for another translation makes no diffrence to the truth in this case "and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM" means the same as "and without him was not any thing made" it still shows that Father never created anything without the Word Jesus, clearly showing that the Word Jesus Christ wasn't created and has always been evil onej who continues to try and change what God says and in so doing calling God a liar, you sure are duh, laugh Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 10:58pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 11:01pm On Dec 03, 2018 |
TATIME: Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15 My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5 It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26 For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you! So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20 God bless you! So distributing magazines and snapping picture by carts is what Jesus Christ said or what watchtower said? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 7:28am On Dec 04, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 7:32am On Dec 04, 2018 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 7:49am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Barristter07:
Frustrated man
Don't bring your lifes frustrations to this thread. Transfer of aggressiveness is a very bad trait. Make amends . See who is calling someone frustrated o? Lol Barrister07 don dey vex. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 7:51am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Barristter07:
God create everything on earth - Act 4:24
God born the maintains - Psalm 90:2
Self explanatory . but I know you will struggle with it The way God born and created David and Ephraim first and also the way he brought them forth into existence first even if they were not firstborns. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 7:55am On Dec 04, 2018 |
brocab: https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/8257655_img20180802204508696_jpegf63922746e60da08568244ab1a466884 Some of these are beggars forced to hold up signs to feed themselves and their families. If I was given a Watch tower Magazine, would I be in one of these photo's too? NO you won't even hold a watchtower magazine in your hand since you're strongly convinced that it belongs to the beggars group. But what baffles me is that these so called "beggars" are also "forcing" those who pay attention to their magazines to become obedient to their captors, and you aren't doing anything to show how better the work these "beggars" claim they're doing could have been done. I think the best way to silence them and stop their begging business is to make meaningful presentations that will be effective so that everyone can see that they're not getting it right! Not just complaining bitterly against their globally recognised system of "begging" when you're doing nothing to help those paying attention to the "beggars". If you care to know, most of these so called "beggars" are the ones PAYING for the re~printing of all the watchtower publications sent to Africa including the deluxe edition of the Bible you see in our hands. No matter how much you contribute to support watchtower, you must also participate in the presentation of the publications otherwise all your valuables are nothing before JEHOVAH but refuse . That's what the young politician expected Jesus to ask from him because he's aware that their activities requires money but Jesus frankly told him "you must drop this ego,self esteem,high position and participate FULLY in the work before you can enter God's Kingdom" Luke 18:18-23 Let whoever has ears listen with discernment! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 7:58am On Dec 04, 2018 |
For the basis or organization and orderliness , let me set some records straight. I engaged Zodiakzax on his statement that Jesus is equal to the Father in Nature /Form .
To prove his position , he replied as at 9:51pm on November 24 to describe Nature as encompassing the entire Sum and Substance of God .
Zodiakzax SUM AND SUBSTANCE.... have you realised it's not only SUBSTABCE but SUM AND SUBSTANCE
By Dictionary
Sum:
the whole of something after all the different features or parts that it consists of are taken into account:
Putting this meaning there it says nature of something is the total attribute or characteristics of something including every part of that thing...
https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/183#73256579
Based on this premise , Thankfully Form/Nature was also used in reference to humans in the same Philippians , Question is : Does that also mean Sum and Substance ? Or just Substance ( which is my own position )
I cited Hebrews 2:14 where we are told that the human nature Jesus shared his SAME to that of the Children. ( Zodiazzax couldn't reply this so he said on this aspect the below )
10:36am, December 1 he posted
zodiakzax
Hebrews is irrelevant, scripture doesn't contradict each other on the ideology it presents. One nonetheless must look at the context in which it is written to better understand it...
He claimed Hebrew is irrelevant because there is no way he could explain and relate it with the question without somersaulting , He nevertheless acknowledged that scripture cannot contradict , But context must be examined.
Even at that he never cared to explain that Hebrews 2:14 on how Jesus nature is similar to the Children . contradicting himself that context must be examined, and he didn't.
cc: Gruni1234 , OneJ , Captivator . Knowing that scripture cannot contradict, Explain that Hebrews in relation to Sum and Substance. Point 1. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 8:00am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:
So distributing magazines and snapping picture by carts is what Jesus Christ said or what watchtower said? That's the watchtower's system of following Jesus to the best of their own understanding , but it seems you're opposed to that so why not present the excellent way things ought to be done by pointing to the organization that's doing it right. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Gruni1234: 8:09am On Dec 04, 2018 |
zodiakzax:
Guys did you read that? He has changed his sentence again by saying No OTHER angel ..idiots...you think we are kids here... you just said No angels in your previous comment now no other angel.....
How old are you kid? Did I mention Mary in comparison to Hebrews? Show me where i said that...You asked a stupid question that how was Jesus begotten , seems the name Mary worries you.. .. well you asked me how Jesus was begotten by God without a wife right? .. you mentioned wife.. so I said how was Mary pregnant without a Husband? You are so silly and block headed... God is almighty correct? So he's all powerful correct? SO HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING correct? So why ask that stupid question? Does God need a wife? .....
He said:
"Paul said that statement in heb1:5-7 , emphasized that Yahweh has anointed Jesus Christ to occupy an exalted position as king, no other Angel had that privilege. Don't twist & distort its meaning with your stupidity"
Gruni123 did you see that? He's calling you stupid for clearly seeing that NO ANGEL was the Begotten of God... you see that's why I call them stupid and fools because they only make a fool out of themselves... they call themselves fools and stupid...
My friend Jesus wasn't begotten when He walked on the earth, he was begotten before the creation of all things..do you know that.. you don't even know the doctrine of your stupid organization... so stop.your stupidity... Hebrews 1:5 isn't talking about Jesus the Human being, are you that stupid, it was referring to Jesus as God's word before the creation of all things..
You see I'm an open guy I will answer anything you throw at me but you insult me when you don't answer my questions..
You are very stupid My friend, your lies have twisted your brain...
Where in the bible did it say Yahweh begot the angels? Tell me? Stop being stupid and silly, show me?
And your stupidity continues, what's wrong with you man? Honestly what's wrong?
My friend why are contradicting yourself again, ... so now you bring Only Begotten....
Obviousy you know nothing about the scriptures,.you are a kid and stupid...
You just said
"Yahweh has begotten myriads of sons in the spirit realm but only Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King. That's the point that Paul emphasized in Heb1:5-7. Let it sink into your God-given brain (if it still exists) , bereft of mumu virus."
Let me teach you today.since your organization clearly has done a poor job. You don't even know how to lie..Barristter07 knows how to really lie, that's why I said you and your other friends are exposing him...
1. Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm because Yehaweh created everything including those angels through His Son and for His Son. All things came into existence through his Son..
2. Jesus was not chosen as his begotten son because he was annointed as King, who taught you that? God so "loved the world that He sent His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" God sent His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, and we are told He was begotten before all creation,
Here is what Your own stupid organization said about Him
The apostle John repeatedly describes the Lord Jesus Christ as the only-begotten Son of God. (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18; 1Jo 4:9) This is not in reference to his human birth or to him as just the man Jesus. As the Loʹgos, or Word, “this one was in the beginning with God,” even “before the world was.” (Joh 1:1, 2; 17:5, 24) At that time while in his prehuman state of existence, he is described as the “only-begotten Son” whom his Father sent “into the world.” The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Loʹgos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18) He is the only one of his kind, the only one whom God himself created directly without the agency or cooperation of any creature. He is the only one whom God his Father used in bringing into existence all other creatures
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003331
You see how stupid you look now, you just said " Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King." Your very own organization doesn't teach that stupidity. You see how they make you look so silly? ..don't blame..blame them.....
That's the website, go and educate yourself in your own foolish doctrine and come back well.. . ...I'm arguing with bunch of stupid amateurs, and kids ...let your elders come and debate us... obviously you don't know shit about your own organization, and here you are here defending them... repent..
Now look OneJ why are you not respecting me by answering me and this is the last time i asked you this, if you don't give me an answer then I know you are a chicken, and a scared little stupid dog...
Here are my questions again;
Did your mother create you or born you? ..giving that you say create is the same as born..
No.2
This is for you Mr dictionary
Jehovah's Witnesses a millenarian, actively proselytizing Christian sect founded by Charles T. Russell (1852-1916) http://www.yourdictionary.com/jehovah-s-witnesses
Do you believe the founder was Charles Russell? ... Dictionaries don't lie...
Scared����
I'm really shocked how simple truth is denied. I will address all relevant points soon. So many twists and turns. What's bothering me is why protect an organization when clearly has some flaws in their doctrine. Are you being paid for being there? The Jehovah witnesses here have totally disappointed me and has open my eyes to see their own deception. Just to say nothing anyone says will change the truth. I can from my own reading know and ascertain that Jesus Christ is not an angel. This is just the case. I will take all points all have made and write my final thoughts on all matters discussed so far. @brocab, advice well received, i am not there yet but in time if he is really real then it shouldn't be a problem for him. Thank you. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Gruni1234: 8:15am On Dec 04, 2018 |
Barristter07: For the basis or organization and orderliness , let me set some records straight.
I engaged Zodiakzax on his statement that Jesus is equal to the Father in Nature /Form .
To prove his position , he replied as at 9:51pm on November 24 to describe Nature as encompassing the entire Sum and Substance of God .
https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/183#73256579
Based on this premise , Thankfully Form/Nature was also used in reference to humans in the same Philippians , Question is : Does that also mean Sum and Substance ? Or just Substance ( which is my own position )
I cited Hebrews 2:14 where we are told that the human nature Jesus shared his SAME to that of the Children. ( Zodiazzax couldn't reply this so he said on this aspect the below )
10:36am, December 1 he posted
He claimed Hebrew is irrelevant because there is no way he could explain and relate it with the question without somersaulting , He nevertheless acknowledged that scripture cannot contradict , But context must be examined.
Even at that he never cared to explain that Hebrews 2:14 on how Jesus nature is similar to the Children . contradicting himself that context must be examined, and he didn't.
cc: Gruni1234 , OneJ , Captivator .
Knowing that scripture cannot contradict, Explain that Hebrews in relation to Sum and Substance.
Point 1.
Sir, I think it is not in your place to make this claim. Everyone will be biased towards what he said. It is for your readers to ascertain truth and comment as such. Did zodiakzax really say hebrews was irrelevant without any explaination? No Sir, he told you you were going out of context and that Hebrews wasnt written in same context as philipians where the comparison was made.why pick some of his words and leave the rest out? I believe is a bad way of presenting a case obviously geared towards misquoting and misapplying your opponents ideology and and Zodiakzax I know will also refute this, then we go back on and on and on again. So I will look at your points and your claims and evidence presented then as a reader and a third party come out with proper analyses of the arguments. Thank you. 2 Likes |