zodiakzax:


You are still being stupid My friend , why didn't Darby translate theos as " a god" in John 1:1? Simple question see how you chase your tail....but Darby contradicts the NWT in John 1:1 because Darby says God, not " a god"


illiterates

Is Jesus the Angelic Being Michael? See how you can't even answer this question...... an question your Organization will be proud to answer but here you are, you can't even answer.... stupid dog..

zodiakzax:




Okay guys let's start: I can't stop laughing see how they are pooing every where..


You said:

"The children are human too

Explain what that Hebrews mean !!!

Real chicken , don't be scared to explain"


Youbm see how stupid you are? I did explain I said


Well according to the same bible he shared in the nature of human.

we need to go to the context to see what it means. Phil 2 was where the comparison of the two natures was made. Nature of God and Nature of man, you run to Hebrews a different book written in a different context to make a stupid claim. And the claim you make doesn't mean anything because Phil 2 didn't say anything about Children but HUMAN BEING, Human. If we both believe the writer of hebrew is the same Paul why DIDNT he use the same wording for that? You were making a stupid claim about the likeness of men and I challenged you it was human being, being referred to, and challenged you to bring Phil 2:6-7 from your NWT. You didn't and you run to Hebrews 1, where the word human is bodly written in Phil 2:7. 


You said: "Wait sef , who deny it means human"

So since we are not denying that the Children and Adam being spoken about there are humans, Human being ... why are you still stupidly asking again? children there is human being..Period


So which nature did he share with the humans? Perfect Human Nature.. Jesus came as the first man was in the garden sinless Man, perfect man..... I've answered several times..are You blind My friend?



You said;

"A fake Christian dismiss Scripture as irrelevant. Scripture Cannot be broken, it wont contradict ...Why not explain since you know the context ?"

you are such a baby, I did explain to you... He came in the likeness of humans. As a human being... a perfect,sinless Human being. Phil 2 compared Nature of God to man. Period.... Hebrews is irrelevant in this case because that's written in another context.... ..why are these guys so dumb...


My friend , why are you making a mockery out of yourself?



You said

"Jesus never denied been (being) an offspring of David, he just want them to know he is bigger , higher and exists before David"


So if He's bigger,higher and exists before David, how can He be the Son of David? So since he didnt deny it then God can also be the Son, right? Because according to you

Jesus wanted them to know He is bigger than David,higher than David, exists before David.. He is David's Lord because David called Him Lord, He's David's master.. but the master, bigger one, higher one became the Son of the servant and Lower one. So now David is Jesus' "father" right? So the father is equal to son right? Because now david as father has authority over his son who also had authority over him.So How can the bigger become the Son of the lesser.. so per this analogy of yours God the master,bigger, higher can become the Son of the Lesser... .. you see how simple that was? .... i hope you can understand.... you were the one shouting here that God is the Lord of Jesus,.so Jesus cannot be the same God, because God is His masters but now you are telling us that the master can be the servant... so you see how stupid you are? ..idiots...


You see you know nothing about the scriptures,

You said:

"Spirit of man is Not man . if it is, that means Jesus went to heaven the day he died since his spirit return to the Father. Luke 23:46" irrelevant, My Friend be focus.... so where was Jesus' spirit?...

You continued:

"Genesis 2:7 Jehovah went on to form the man out of dust.

He was called MAN even without Spirit in him , when he was just dust"

see how silly you sound....so why didn't "man" start walking, eating, drinking etc? Why did Yahweh breath into the man? For what? Idiot... man became a living being only when Yahweh breathed life into him. Your man was just a doll, without a soul and a spirit. So Yahweh knowing well his Man wasn't complete breathed life into him..... so the Spirit of man is man my friend.. stop being more stupid.... .... now you Are a doll..
See how for the sake of arguments you look stupid...



Your stupidity continues:

"Hahahahahaha at highlighted, so who then ... For you to claim it isn't God the Father , you must have gotten evidence of who ... Tell us ?"


See your face, you can't even laugh well.. .... you see sometimes it's difficult talking to a fool when you are not one... I am not claiming anything, it is Paul that says God, or have you forgotten there's God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and these three are God? Paul was speaking about God. And I told you if Paul refers to the Father he says God the Father.... even my dog understands English...



You said:

"If the spirit of God is same Him
Who is the Him ? God .? Which God cos there areany Gods ?"

Okay I accept you are dumb so let me lay it out for you well

GOD the Father is God

God the Son Is God

GOD the Holy Spirit is God

So the Holy Spirit is the same as God.....you see how silly you sound? It is your organization that believe there are many gods.. pagans... you teach it and preach it, pagans.....



You continue:

"His Firstborn says some versions"

And The firstborn says other versions ... are you that stupid??...the and his are two different things, the boy is not his boy? Stop being an idiot...

My friend the Greek is clear, stop being a fool...your own kingdom interlinear has "the" not his... I tell you, they always make a fool out of you..


https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/kingdom-interlinear-greek-translation/books/hebrews/1/



Now interesting part...

You said:


"Okay, Mountains are not among Gods creations ?

I need an answer"

I will give it my dear,

Well according to the psalm you are so sure of, God gave birth to the mountains, correct?

And I'm telling from your own verse that it's there that God born not create the mountains....

Show me where it said that God created the mountains?

Okay let me make it easy for you, show me where it specifically says in scripture that God created the mountains?

My friend the writer should know mountains were among his creations right? Why didn't he use create which would have been so clear and obvious but he said Born....so ask the writer not me... ...




In answering my question:

We are dealing with what it means when God born .


Well dictionary didn't say when "God born" is different from when "Humans or animals born" right? Born is born correct?..why are such block headed..

So answer my question

Were you born by your mother or were created by Her? Assuming the word create and born are the same" 







So answer that question about mountain" I did...

TATIME:
Na wa o! So this argument is still causing traffic on NL, well i congratulate Seun for creating this so that people can pour out what they can't even discuss with their neighbors for God's sake but for the sake of argument they can continue till eternity.
Just 17 fact about a group and the next thing is endless arguments.
I believe if all these argumentators can be this persistent in going to discuss God's word with enthusiasm, surely Jehovah's Witnesses won't have a say. But it's just so pathetic that they lack the humility, chastity and self-control couple with incompetency regarding what the Bible REALLY teach, therefore they chmoose to argue facelessly behind social media.

Barristter07:


Am happy you are getting frustrated as your various lies are getting nailed. Continue to pour your frustrations through insult. It changes nothing

Malachi 3:1 Darby says Angel

Malachi 3:1 NWT says Messenger.

Any difference ? No, both are same judging from the root word


Your sense want them to use same wording when they didn't at Malachi 3:1 , the point is NWT translation of John 1:1 is not wrong. As evidenced by Darby doing same at Act 8:26

Until you prove that Darby is wrong at Act 28:6 , then NWT is right.




Michael is an ARCH angel

Fellow, has frustration carried you to this extent ?

Barristter07:


True, trinity collect people's senses.

zodiakzax:




Okay guys let's start: I can't stop laughing see how they are pooing every where..


You said:

"The children are human too

Explain what that Hebrews mean !!!

Real chicken , don't be scared to explain"


Youbm see how stupid you are? I did explain I said


Well according to the same bible he shared in the nature of human.

we need to go to the context to see what it means. Phil 2 was where the comparison of the two natures was made. Nature of God and Nature of man, you run to Hebrews a different book written in a different context to make a stupid claim. And the claim you make doesn't mean anything because Phil 2 didn't say anything about Children but HUMAN BEING, Human

. If we both believe the writer of hebrew is the same Paul why DIDNT he use the same wording for that? You were making a stupid claim about the likeness of men and I challenged you it was human being, being referred to, and challenged you to bring Phil 2:6-7 from your NWT. You didn't and you run to Hebrews 1, where the word human is bodly written in Phil 2:7. 

You said: "Wait sef , who deny it means human"

So since we are not denying that the Children and Adam being spoken about there are humans, Human being ... why are you still stupidly asking again? children there is human being..Period


So which nature did he share with the humans? Perfect Human Nature.. Jesus came as the first man was in the garden sinless Man, perfect man..... I've answered several times..are You blind My friend?



You said;

"A fake Christian dismiss Scripture as irrelevant. Scripture Cannot be broken, it wont contradict ...Why not explain since you know the context ?"

you are such a baby, I did explain to you... He came in the likeness of humans. As a human being... a perfect,sinless Human being. Phil 2 compared Nature of God to man. Period.

... Hebrews is irrelevant in this case because that's written in another context.... ..why are these guys so dumb...

My friend , why are you making a mockery out of yourself?



You said

"Jesus never denied been (being) an offspring of David, he just want them to know he is bigger , higher and exists before David"


So if He's bigger,higher and exists before David, how can He be the Son of David? So since he didnt deny it then God can also be the Son, right? Because according to you

Jesus wanted them to know He is bigger than David,higher than David, exists before David.. He is David's Lord because David called Him Lord, He's David's master.. but the master, bigger one, higher one became the Son of the servant and Lower one. So now David is Jesus' "father" right? So the father is equal to son right? Because now david as father has authority over his son who also had authority over him.So How can the bigger become the Son of the lesser.. so per this analogy of yours God the master,bigger, higher can become the Son of the Lesser... .. you see how simple that was? .... i hope you can understand.... you were the one shouting here that God is the Lord of Jesus,.so Jesus cannot be the same God, because God is His masters but now you are telling us that the master can be the servant... so you see how stupid you are? ..idiots...


You see you know nothing about the scriptures,

You said:

"Spirit of man is Not man . if it is, that means Jesus went to heaven the day he died since his spirit return to the Father. Luke 23:46" irrelevant, My Friend be focus.... so where was Jesus' spirit?...

You continued:

"Genesis 2:7 Jehovah went on to form the man out of dust.

He was called MAN even without Spirit in him , when he was just dust"

see how silly you sound....so why didn't "man" start walking, eating, drinking etc? Why did Yahweh breath into the man? For what? Idiot... man became a living being only when Yahweh breathed life into him. Your man was just a doll, without a soul and a spirit. So Yahweh knowing well his Man wasn't complete breathed life into him..... so the Spirit of man is man my friend.. stop being more stupid.... .... now you Are a doll..
See how for the sake of arguments you look stupid...

Your stupidity continues:

"Hahahahahaha at highlighted, so who then ... For you to claim it isn't God the Father , you must have gotten evidence of who ... Tell us ?"


See your face, you can't even laugh well.. .... you see sometimes it's difficult talking to a fool when you are not one... I am not claiming anything, it is Paul that says God, or have you forgotten there's God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit and these three are God? Paul was speaking about God. And I told you if Paul refers to the Father he says God the Father.... even my dog understands English...



You said:

"If the spirit of God is same Him
Who is the Him ? God .? Which God cos there areany Gods ?"

Okay I accept you are dumb so let me lay it out for you well

GOD the Father is God

God the Son Is God

GOD the Holy Spirit is God

So the Holy Spirit is the same as God.....you see how silly you sound? It is your organization that believe there are many gods.. pagans... you teach it and preach it, pagans.....

You continue:

"His Firstborn says some versions"

And The firstborn says other versions ... are you that stupid??...the and his are two different things, the boy is not his boy? Stop being an idiot...

My friend the Greek is clear, stop being a fool...your own kingdom interlinear has "the" not his... I tell you, they always make a fool out of you..


https://www.jw.org/en/publications/bible/kingdom-interlinear-greek-translation/books/hebrews/1/

Now interesting part...

You said:


"Okay, Mountains are not among Gods creations ?

I need an answer"

I will give it my dear,

Well according to the psalm you are so sure of, God gave birth to the mountains, correct?

And I'm telling from your own verse that it's there that God born not create the mountains....

Show me where it said that God created the mountains?

Okay let me make it easy for you, show me where it specifically says in scripture that God created the mountains?

My friend the writer should know mountains were among his creations right? Why didn't he use create which would have been so clear and obvious but he said Born....so ask the writer not me... ...




In answering my question:

We are dealing with what it means when God born .


Well dictionary didn't say when "God born" is different from when "Humans or animals born" right? Born is born correct?..why are such block headed..

So answer my question

Were you born by your mother or were created by Her? Assuming the word create and born are the same" 

So answer that question about mountain" I did...

zodiakzax:


My friend stop being stupid...

Darby translation John 1:1

In [the] beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God


NWT

In the beginning was the Word,+ and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god

How are these two the same....you are just a scared little dog....everyone will see how stupid you guys are....

My friend, Arch angel so what? Is an Arch angel not an angel? You run to messenger now you say Arch angel...

We have all agreed that Jesus is no angel since no angel was begotten of God.... period ..... let my readers judge.. obviously you will jumb to some silly assumption again...

zodiakzax:


Look at this idiot too, yeah right you know about the bible before you are disgracing yourselves here. You Tatime a stupid Muslim want to come and teach Christians the bible.. when you were confronted about your silly mistake didn't you run away? You think I hide behind social media, stupid kid, come to my area and see how you stupid JW's are scared when they see me....

Barristter07:


See sef

Somebody vibrating to explain the nature of Jesus in relation Children with sum and substance is claiming to be feared ?

Somebody who said the holy spirit knows the thought of God but cannot identify who he meant by God ... Only to say holy spirit knows the thought of Father , Son and ANOTHER holy spirit again . na that one dem go fear ?

Somebody who said man doesn't exist without spirit only to be proven False ... Really ?

Somebody who runs around when he was asked if mountains been born means created , something a 6 year old will answer reasonably ... Na that one dem go fear ?


You are wasting your time.

Barristter07:


Your premise was to prove that NWT is wrong..

But the Fact reveal that the above cannot be the yardstick since Darby DID THE EXACT same thing elsewhere. Until you proved that wrong. I will take you serious



Micheal is an Arch angel


The problem is that the image in your head is not what the Bible teach about angels, even human beings are called ANGELS in the Bible . it simply means Messenger

Malachi 3:1 calls him an Angel [ Greek aggelos]

Jesus isn't among the Angels of Hebrews 1:5 , he is the ARCH or Commander of them , because he has been made better than them by inheriting a name better than theirs .. Former companions verse 9

Barristter07:

Finally you respond after many sleepless nights and when you finally decide to respond . all you can do is copy your half baked repetitions SINCE you have no where to go again.

Good, let's start




Scripture cannot be broken. Anyone who said the bold is a Liar. You clearly recognize that you are hooked .

Similar to the Children ... Why are you vibrating on this ?



Likeness of men... Yes .

But its a nature Similar to the Children. Why not explain this with sum and substance ?

#1 Lies of your sum and substance are now exposed !!!


Nature similar to the children ... Are the children perfect ?

Zodiakzax see your life outside



The bold is irrelevant, NOT Hebrews ... Can you explain the context ? No ,

You see your life.

Don't forget we are discussing Is nature as human which Hebrew shed light on.


Again, Scripture harmonize NOT broken.

You are behaving as a Fake Christian for trying to separate bible books as contradictory.



He became a son of David because he was made a little lower than angels and born in human nature.

That doesn't apply to his uncreated Father.

Jesus was still his servant even after resurrection



With his Father in heaven

Any objection ?



Read the bold , Man became a living being or soul
senseless person, " MAN " became

What is Man ? The dust.

I never discuss becoming a living being, your position was man didn't exist without spirit or soul . and that proved it false.



You lack sense. Here is the scripture again


No one knows the thought of God except the spirit of God. .

God here cannot be Father, Son and Holy spirit. As you claim Because it clearly mentions holy spirit DIFFERENTLY ... God must either refer to the Father or Son .

Why are you scared to identify who ?

Bobo don hang.

I want response



Silly response

The first BORN of who ?


See dribble on top small question . Mountains are born not created shey? U know within yourself that u are lying. Am glad this is clear

Act 4:24 says

" . 24 they lifted their voices ptogether to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them " ,

Everything in them include MOUNTAINS , now when they are described as BORN ... Can you now see the meaning now ?



God Created me through them. Thats why children are gift from God



You lied if you think u did.

Now go back and answer , since act 4:24 has expose your games

Barristter07:

Finally you respond after many sleepless nights and when you finally decide to respond . all you can do is copy your half baked repetitions SINCE you have no where to go again.

Good, let's start




Scripture cannot be broken. Anyone who said the bold is a Liar. You clearly recognize that you are hooked .

Similar to the Children ... Why are you vibrating on this ?



Likeness of men... Yes .

But its a nature Similar to the Children. Why not explain this with sum and substance ?

#1 Lies of your sum and substance are now exposed !!!


Nature similar to the children ... Are the children perfect ?

Zodiakzax see your life outside



The bold is irrelevant, NOT Hebrews ... Can you explain the context ? No ,

You see your life.

Don't forget we are discussing Is nature as human which Hebrew shed light on.


Again, Scripture harmonize NOT broken.

You are behaving as a Fake Christian for trying to separate bible books as contradictory.



He became a son of David because he was made a little lower than angels and born in human nature.

That doesn't apply to his uncreated Father.

Jesus was still his servant even after resurrection



With his Father in heaven

Any objection ?



Read the bold , Man became a living being or soul
senseless person, " MAN " became

What is Man ? The dust.

I never discuss becoming a living being, your position was man didn't exist without spirit or soul . and that proved it false.



You lack sense. Here is the scripture again


No one knows the thought of God except the spirit of God. .

God here cannot be Father, Son and Holy spirit. As you claim Because it clearly mentions holy spirit DIFFERENTLY ... God must either refer to the Father or Son .

Why are you scared to identify who ?

Bobo don hang.

I want response



Silly response

The first BORN of who ?


See dribble on top small question . Mountains are born not created shey? U know within yourself that u are lying. Am glad this is clear

Act 4:24 says

" . 24 they lifted their voices ptogether to God and said, “Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them " ,

Everything in them include MOUNTAINS , now when they are described as BORN ... Can you now see the meaning now ?



God Created me through them. Thats why children are gift from God



You lied if you think u did.

Now go back and answer , since act 4:24 has expose your games

Barristter07:


Your premise was to prove that NWT is wrong..

But the Fact reveal that the above cannot be the yardstick since Darby DID THE EXACT same thing elsewhere. Until you proved that wrong. I will take you serious



Micheal is an Arch angel


The problem is that the image in your head is not what the Bible teach about angels, even human beings are called ANGELS in the Bible . it simply means Messenger

Malachi 3:1 calls him an Angel [ Greek aggelos]

Jesus isn't among the Angels of Hebrews 1:5 , he is the ARCH or Commander of them , because he has been made better than them by inheriting a name better than theirs .. Former companions verse 9

Barristter07:


See sef

Somebody vibrating to explain the nature of Jesus in relation Children with sum and substance is claiming to be feared ?

Somebody who said the holy spirit knows the thought of God but cannot identify who he meant by God ... Only to say holy spirit knows the thought of Father , Son and ANOTHER holy spirit again . na that one dem go fear ?

Somebody who said man doesn't exist without spirit only to be proven False ... Really ?

Somebody who runs around when he was asked if mountains been born means created , something a 6 year old will answer reasonably ... Na that one dem go fear ?


You are wasting your time.

Hairyrapunzel:


Now Jesus Christ isnt among angels described in hebrews1:5 but he is arch or commander says the assumer. Lol

You have to assume to explain yourself. Malachi 3:1 says messenger. Stop assuming.

You want to force angel into the verse. You will soon say it looks like is Jesus Christ that is the messenger.

So since Michael is commander angel therefore he is not an Angel? I no fit laff. You will soon say a commander of an army is not an army member. Lol

See people dey struggle to show where Jesus Christ is called angel Michael.

After keeping quiet for 2 days only to come out with speculation from your own assumption

zodiakzax:


Look at this idiot too, yeah right you know about the bible before you are disgracing yourselves here. You Tatime a stupid Muslim want to come and teach Christians the bible.. when you were confronted about your silly mistake didn't you run away? You think I hide behind social media, stupid kid, come to my area and see how you stupid JW's are scared when they see me....

TATIME:
Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15
My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5
It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26
For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you!
So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20
God bless you!

TATIME:
Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15

TATIME:
with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently.

TATIME:
Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15
My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5
It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26
For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you!
So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20
God bless you!

TATIME:
Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15
My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5
It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26
For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you!
So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20
God bless you!

Hairyrapunzel:


Now Jesus Christ isnt among angels described in hebrews1:5 but he is arch or commander says the assumer. Lol

You have to assume to explain yourself. Malachi 3:1 says messenger. Stop assuming.

You want to force angel into the verse. You will soon say it looks like is Jesus Christ that is the messenger.

So since Michael is commander angel therefore he is not an Angel? I no fit laff. You will soon say a commander of an army is not an army member. Lol

See people dey struggle to show where Jesus Christ is called angel Michael.

After keeping quiet for 2 days only to come out with speculation from your own assumption

OneJ:


Komot that your lie lie ,corrupted KJV version jare.....

Let's consider these examples:

1a. This house was built through me.
1 b, This house was built by me
Both sentences are not saying exactly the same thing.
(1a) tells us that the house was built with joint effort or a partnership.
(1b) is saying that one person alone built it.

https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

NLT,GNT.NASB.CSB.ESV.WNT.YLT.ISV.GWT.HCSB.WEB.NIV etc.
"And although the world was made THROUGH. HIM the world did not recognize him " John 1:10.

"DIA AUTOU meaning THROUGH HIM
is a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act; THROUGH."

https://biblehub.com/proverbs/8-22.htm

"Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of his creation..." (Aramaic Bible in English)

" The Lord (Jehovah/Yahweh) created me first of all...." NHEB
Prov 8:30
"I was a skilled craftsman at His (Yahweh's) side, His delight day by day, rejoicing always in His prescence"
" Christ is the wisdom of God" 1 cor 1:21,24.
The truth is crystal clear.

zodiakzax:


.. you see how dumb they are.....

TATIME:
Your manner of response towards JWs post is an undeniable fact that you're a PRACTICING Christian who needs no JWs to come and teach him what Jesus taught His followers to be observing and how to respond with mildness. Matthew 10:11-15
My friend,whether you like it or not i'm now convinced beyond every reasonable doubt that these JWs you despise so much are the one and only Christian group of our time. Act 24:5
It's obvious that the same kind of envy that beclowded Cain's reasoning is what's making you feel bad about their activities, they're able to preach and teach the most vicious amongst men and making them the meekest in the midst of others! Honesthearted persons who are searching for true Christians "after reading Jesus' own words from the Bible can EASILY recognize them BY THEIR ACTIONS" Act 11:26
For your information, whoever is giving you attention or responding to your post is NOT obeying the instruction from our GB. They've warned us not to engage in fruitless arguments with those who aren't convinced with the works that they see US do in their neighborhood zealously, industriously and persistently. We're only to make presentations of our beliefs in a mild and respectful manner, so if you think you know better than we do then our expectations is to see you do WHAT JESUS ASKED CHRISTIANS TO BE DOING in order for everyone to learn from you!
So it's not a matter of name calling or curses, it's about ACTIONS which speaks louder than mere words. James 2: 18-20
God bless you!

zodiakzax:


If you were smart you would have known that i answered all those questions... but because you are dumb, you want me to always use illustrations for you....illiterrates


.. ask any 4 years the difference between create and born you will know..... .. simple question did your mother born you or create you, see your stupid silly answer, wait till I reply...

zodiakzax:



You see how we coordinate.... that's why I like you Barristter07, even though you are also stupid at least your stupidity can be condoned.... he became a son of David because he was made lower than the Angels ... interesting... I can't stop laughing, will reply shortly, today's is my wife's birthday so have to do another stupid thing by taking her out..you know women... also very stupid and silly like you guys sometimes...

Barristter07:


Frustrated man


Don't bring your lifes frustrations to this thread. Transfer of aggressiveness is a very bad trait. Make amends .

Barristter07:


God create everything on earth - Act 4:24

God born the maintains - Psalm 90:2

Self explanatory . but I know you will struggle with it

brocab:
https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/8257655_img20180802204508696_jpegf63922746e60da08568244ab1a466884
Some of these are beggars forced to hold up signs to feed themselves and their families.
If I was given a Watch tower Magazine, would I be in one of these photo's too?

Hairyrapunzel:


So distributing magazines and snapping picture by carts is what Jesus Christ said or what watchtower said?

zodiakzax:





Guys did you read that? He has changed his sentence again by saying No OTHER angel ..idiots...you think we are kids here... you just said No angels in your previous comment now no other angel.....


How old are you kid? Did I mention Mary in comparison to Hebrews? Show me where i said that...You asked a stupid question that how was Jesus begotten , seems the name Mary worries you.. .. well you asked me how Jesus was begotten by God without a wife right? .. you mentioned wife.. so I said how was Mary pregnant without a Husband? You are so silly and block headed... God is almighty correct? So he's all powerful correct? SO HE IS NOT LIMITED IN ANYTHING correct? So why ask that stupid question? Does God need a wife? .....

He said:

"Paul said that statement in heb1:5-7 , emphasized that Yahweh has anointed Jesus Christ to occupy an exalted position as king, no other Angel had that privilege.
Don't twist & distort its meaning with your stupidity"


Gruni123 did you see that? He's calling you stupid for clearly seeing that NO ANGEL was the Begotten of God... you see that's why I call them stupid and fools because they only make a fool out of themselves... they call themselves fools and stupid...


My friend Jesus wasn't begotten when He walked on the earth, he was begotten before the creation of all things..do you know that.. you don't even know the doctrine of your stupid organization... so stop.your stupidity... Hebrews 1:5 isn't talking about Jesus the Human being, are you that stupid, it was referring to Jesus as God's word before the creation of all things..


You see I'm an open guy I will answer anything you throw at me but you insult me when you don't answer my questions..


You are very stupid My friend, your lies have twisted your brain...


Where in the bible did it say Yahweh begot the angels? Tell me? Stop being stupid and silly, show me?

And your stupidity continues, what's wrong with you man? Honestly what's wrong?


My friend why are contradicting yourself again, ... so now you bring Only Begotten....

Obviousy you know nothing about the scriptures,.you are a kid and stupid...

You just said

"Yahweh has begotten myriads of sons in the spirit realm but only Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King.
That's the point that Paul emphasized in Heb1:5-7.
Let it sink into your God-given brain (if it still exists) , bereft of mumu virus."

Let me teach you today.since your organization clearly has done a poor job. You don't even know how to lie..Barristter07 knows how to really lie, that's why I said you and your other friends are exposing him...

1. Yahweh did not beget any child in any spirit realm because Yehaweh created everything including those angels through His Son and for His Son. All things came into existence through his Son..


2. Jesus was not chosen as his begotten son because he was annointed as King, who taught you that? God so "loved the world that He sent His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON" God sent His ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, and we are told He was begotten before all creation,

Here is what Your own stupid organization said about Him


The apostle John repeatedly describes the Lord Jesus Christ as the only-begotten Son of God. (Joh 1:14; 3:16, 18; 1Jo 4:9) This is not in reference to his human birth or to him as just the man Jesus. As the Loʹgos, or Word, “this one was in the beginning with God,” even “before the world was.” (Joh 1:1, 2; 17:5, 24) At that time while in his prehuman state of existence, he is described as the “only-begotten Son” whom his Father sent “into the world.”​
The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Loʹgos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18) He is the only one of his kind, the only one whom God himself created directly without the agency or cooperation of any creature. He is the only one whom God his Father used in bringing into existence all other creatures

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003331



You see how stupid you look now, you just said " Jesus Christ was chosen as his only begotten son because he was the anointed Messianic King." Your very own organization doesn't teach that stupidity. You see how they make you look so silly? ..don't blame..blame them.....


That's the website, go and educate yourself in your own foolish doctrine and come back well..
. ...I'm arguing with bunch of stupid amateurs, and kids
...let your elders come and debate us... obviously you don't know shit about your own organization, and here you are here defending them... repent..


Now look OneJ why are you not respecting me by answering me and this is the last time i asked you this, if you don't give me an answer then I know you are a chicken, and a scared little stupid dog...


Here are my questions again;


Did your mother create you or born you? ..giving that you say create is the same as born..



No.2

This is for you Mr dictionary 


Jehovah's Witnesses
a millenarian, actively proselytizing Christian sect founded by Charles T. Russell (1852-1916)
http://www.yourdictionary.com/jehovah-s-witnesses

Do you believe the founder was Charles Russell?   ... Dictionaries don't lie...


Scared����

Barristter07:
For the basis or organization and orderliness , let me set some records straight.

I engaged Zodiakzax on his statement that Jesus is equal to the Father in Nature /Form .

To prove his position , he replied as at 9:51pm on November 24 to describe Nature as encompassing the entire Sum and Substance of God .


https://www.nairaland.com/2720878/jehovahs-witnesses-17-facts-people/183#73256579

Based on this premise , Thankfully Form/Nature was also used in reference to humans in the same Philippians , Question is : Does that also mean Sum and Substance ? Or just Substance ( which is my own position )

I cited Hebrews 2:14 where we are told that the human nature Jesus shared his SAME to that of the Children. ( Zodiazzax couldn't reply this so he said on this aspect the below )

10:36am, December 1 he posted



He claimed Hebrew is irrelevant because there is no way he could explain and relate it with the question without somersaulting , He nevertheless acknowledged that scripture cannot contradict , But context must be examined.

Even at that he never cared to explain that Hebrews 2:14 on how Jesus nature is similar to the Children . contradicting himself that context must be examined, and he didn't.



cc: Gruni1234 , OneJ , Captivator .

Knowing that scripture cannot contradict, Explain that Hebrews in relation to Sum and Substance.

Point 1.