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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 8:15am On Dec 07, 2018 |
OneJ: truly oh blinded false jw onej contradicting the bible is what you false jw's are good at your claim was that Jesus wouldn't have been raised with wounds and scars Jesus certinally was raised with those wounds and scars: Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. you false jw's who neither understand or believe the bible see contradictions their are no contradictions only your non understanding 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. talk about twisting, that's another one of your names |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:17am On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME:Jesus said" go out unto all the nations and preach the gospel-either it is on the street, in a courtyard or in someones backyard or on the media, it doesn't matter just as long as it is being preached. Hypocritical I say, you also hide behind the media preaching your doctrine that isn't scriptural. Which of course you preach another doctrine that can only come from the Watchtower, Paul said: he preached in different homes with the believers, he never said, go door to door harassing unbelievers face to face? When Paul preach He hit the temple courtyards, Where the Pharisees would arrest him every chance they had-I don't see JW's doing that... It is only insulting to you, because you see your reflection biting back at you.. TATIME:You can't help yourself-when all you can do is point your finger at somebody else-try looking into your heart, now look into someone else's heart-can you see how insulting you can be-you do the same things you accuse us for doing, you are using the same forms of media we are using, and yet you winch about everybody else who do what you do... TATIME:You don't come to me preaching the gospel-you come to me preaching lies from the Watchtower, I call this BARBARIC! TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 8:18am On Dec 07, 2018 |
OneJ: know nothing false jw onej, God is a Spirit, john 4:24 God and the Word is God, John 1:1 again, God is a Spirit, God and the Word(two persons) don't have two diffrent spirits but the same one spirit that is God God is one, matt 12:29 God and the Word is that one God, that one Spirit of course you false jw mumu man not having that Spirit living in you will never know or understand |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 8:23am On Dec 07, 2018 |
Tatime of course you false jw tat don't understand God being more than one person, in fact you don't understand anything much www.nairaland.com/attachments/8276104_img20181206180527753_jpeg71c08df75eba31a050ceb866c82979af just look at that false jw confusion, and mocking of God and the Word, john 1:1 showing your true satanic colors false jw tat 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 8:25am On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME: you laughing boy tat cannot answer hairy and are running away with your tail between your legs Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 8:29am On Dec 07, 2018 |
OneJ: @underline, talking about yourself again false jw onej, you do a lot of that @bold' you mean every false jw who viewed this thread ha ha, you couldn't say the truth if your life depended on it and it does: Rev_2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:19am On Dec 07, 2018 |
brocab:Hmmmmmmmmmm i pray that you get the sense of this discussion without this argumentative mindset! The topic of the thread is what brought you and your friends into this podium, not me coming to you to preach anything to you! You said Jesus asked His followers to go out and preach, and you said it could be in any form but the topic of this thread is 17 facts about a group "Jehovah's Witnesses" this has nothing to do with coming to preach to you or your friends. So what do you mean by saying "i came to you" We're all participants in this podium to make simple presentations of what each of us believe, whether it's right or wrong should be left in the hands of Jesus to judge. But pouring out ones rage on others simply because they're holding contrary opinion regarding what is written in black and white makes no practical sense and it becomes BARBARIC most especially after Jesus the one you're claiming to be on His side has taught His own followers never to become vulgar about His matter! God bless you! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:57am On Dec 07, 2018 |
johnw47:If some people don't understand something,i think it's not a reason to become enraged at them. What a reasonable intellectual will do is to bring the explanation to the LOW level of the audience so that they can EASILY grasp it. Matthew 13:3-35 At John 3:12 Jesus said He uses earthly things(that's obvious) to teach but it's even difficult for His listeners to grasp so it's pointless trying to teach them heavenly things (that they can't even see) What Trinitarians always claim is that TRINITY is a mystery, mystery means "cannot be understood or out of comprehension". So it can never be the fault of the one laughing at a doctrine that even those who claims to believe in it can't explain. John 1:1 has caused a lot of controversy amongst Bible scholars because many believes that the word WAS God means the word is presently not serving in that capacity, while others believes that the word is the Almighty. So on whatever side you find yourself, it becomes BARBARIC and most of all STUPID to become enraged at someone for his/her choice. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 12:10pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME: Stupid pagan, even swearing by a pagan god Allah, idiots... dictionary says Russell was your founder, you deny him because of the many mistakes he did, he even said Jesus was God.. fools..OneJ will not answer but I care less. Charles Russell is your founder if you like go and fall in the sea... stupid dogs . |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 12:41pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Read again , This time at a slow pace and get the message. Then kindly identify the " HIM " that's same as holy spirit . Two edged sword 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 12:44pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
CAPTIVATOR: funny, I will sure visit that Brother 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Barristter07: 12:44pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
CAPTIVATOR: funny, I will surely visit that Brother |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 1:33pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
Barristter07: I will respond Barristter07, clearly your mind is Full of shit, I took my time to explain that to you but because you are so dumb you refuse to understand... I know you are all uneducated, so it's difficult for you to use your mind to think and educate yourself, so arguing with an illiterate and a fool is the most difficult thing one can do., your stupid organization tells you school is not important yet they fall on scholars to understand the bible, stupid stinking devils.. Don't worry, just trying to make enough time for myself... I'm a family man you know... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:16pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
zodiakzax:Brother Charles Taze Russell was surely one of Jehovah's Witnesses my friend but NOT the founder! This is one of the many issues that made me to keep asking thought provoking questions for over two decades before i finally became one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unlike all other groups that's available, Jehovah's Witnesses don't stick to the laid down teachings, doctrines and arrangements of human frontiers. What i mean is this, today why are there so many different religious groups having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming Christians? Well it's because after the death of the 12 Apostles chosen by Jesus Christ, each individual or group of individuals started gathering members and setting their own forms of worship based on their respective interpretations and understanding of the Bible,starting with the Romans under Constantine (Roman Catholic Church), till the days of English churches (Anglo Catholic meaning "English" Catholic Church). All these religious groups had there own FORM but "never will they allow for further enlightenment" so the religion remains the same way their frontiers laid it down, instead of allowing for a reformation members leaves to start yet another religious group in Jesus name. Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like that, there is room for further enlightenment, that's why what a JW during the days of Russell was acquainted with totally differs from what is obtainable today, for example Charles Russell used to celebrate Christmas till death but today further enlightenment has stopped that pagan festivity.Proverbs 4:18 So if Russell was the founder (as assumed) nothing would have changed most of his laid down doctrines! After thorough research,investigation and meditation i came to agree that certainly this group has the backing of a supernatural force *JEHOVAH*. All other religious groups today aren't able to standout as the one and only group representing Jesus because of all their accommodated pagan philosophies. YOU guys yourselves are living testimonies to these facts as none of you has that confidence to present any of your numerous religious groups as a Christian group, all you're agitating for is "there shouldn't be a group that's to be reckoned with as Christians". Whereas Jesus Himself said so many things that shows there must be a group for the purpose of RECOGNITION! Matthew 10:22-26/John 13:34,35/17:8,9,14-19 So Jesus used Russell just as a tool to reestablish His congregation in this last days and all further adjustments Jesus is doing as a spirit person in our midst. Matthew 28:20 God bless you! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:40pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME:I think it's time you start telling the truth-it is you that comes to us and argue your beliefs against us 'as soon as we mention the Word of God, you pounce against us, trying to convince us 'you are right while the Word of God is wrong! It can be very Barbaric when we read your commits concerning the word of God, matter of fact it's an insult against God Himself.. Still you choose to play the blame game, blaming us coming to you, when we are all guilty of this very same crime-plus you blame us continually because you haven't got the balls to front up for your own mistakes.. TATIME:Well according to Jesus, He said: we can judge by their fruit! And I have judged you, "because your fruit separates you from Christ: to know He is God who raised Himself from the dead, according to your NWT Bible.. {Allow me to prove these facts against you} {John 2:18-22} Therefore, in response the Jews said to him: “What sign can you show us, since you are doing these things?” {19} Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” {20} The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?” {21} But he was talking about the temple of his body. {22} When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this, and they believed the scripture and what Jesus had spoken. The apostles believed it, I believe it, but the JW's don't believe it because your fruit separates you from Christ... TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 2:52pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
brocab:Well if you truly believe you can judge every utterance that's against God's word, then try to do that in the northern side of Nigeria without self-control as you're asserting right now! Those people over there are saying you must worship only in the Mosques and the only names to be revered are Allah and Muhammad. Please when you get there don't preach peacefully and respectfully as Jehovah's Witnesses do, just speak to them the same way you're doing on social media now and see how far you can go with your style of preaching. Thanks and God bless you! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 3:11pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME: ..stupid kids... here is what the dictionary said... Jehovah's Witnesses a millenarian, actively proselytizing Christian sect founded by Charles T. Russell (1852-1916) http://www.yourdictionary.com/jehovah-s-witnesses I assume the dictionary is wrong then.. Russell is being tormented night and day wherever he is when he sees how you and your organization destroys the lives of beautiful humans, your organization is the devil itself.. Satan's throne,.and you are his whores stupid pagan like you calling someone a pagan.. You who believe there are many gods in Christianity, repent before you.are sent to hell.... stupid little kids.... babies are even smarter than you. Muslim like you. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:16pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
Don't we just love the net, when it can give us so much information about anybody these day-Charles Taze Russell was surely one of Jehovah's Witnesses who was the founder! Charles Russell was also a 33 rd degree Mason, he was formally a Seven day Adventist-also Joseph Smith the founder of the Mormons was a 33 rd Mason both were Seven day Adventist. After Charles Taze Russell passed Rutherford seen Russell's vision 'and continual collecting monies from the Jehovah witnesses in the times of the dark ages in the rescission, while the people were staving=Rutherford was only focused upon his expected resurrected leaders who would come back from the dead and would want to live with Rutherford in America. Rutherford taught in the Resurrected, Abraham and Moses would reside there upon their return to the earth. Rutherford wrote in a 1920 book called “Millions Now Living Will Never Die” he’d predicted that biblical leaders like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would be resurrected in 1925 and become “the visible, legal representatives of the new order of things on earth.” TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:42pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
I would like to go to Nigeria with you, and when the time comes 'don't worry you are first to front the firing squad-I would tell the Muslims you are gay! Plus I don't live in Nigeria-I am from the other side of the world-and the JW's have already invaded my country-so not only do I talk to you, on media-I have my door closed just in case the JW's are seeking whom they may devour against the elderly and against the widows... TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 3:44pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
They said the Father is Jesus' Lord, i aked them where did Jesus called The Father my Lord? Till now they are jumping from one assumption to the other and not a single verse to.prove the case.. ... Jesus is the one Lord, Why did Jesus question the people about them believing He's David's Son when He is David's Lord, but later said he was David's offspring.. this fake JW Christians couldn't even answer... ... If He didn't deny being David's son and yet David called Him Lord, then why do you fuse around when the Father aknowledges Christ as Lord? ..... Jesus Christ is no Angel, in this note the JW's, OneJ, barrister07 agreed Jesus is not an angel, directly insulting their own organization.. at least we agreed here They poo everywhere, saying any Jew who didn't believe in Jesus was a Pharisee .. .. I know right, stupid dumb headed goats... They said he wasnt raised in a physical body, yet Jesus had wounds on his body, nasty ones, so if he wasn't raised bodily why the wounds? ..sometimes they sound so stupid that my dog looks alot wiser.. Isaiah 48:16, has disgraced them to show them Yahweh calling another Yahweh. They jump up and down yet cannot prove anything, some said it was Jesus being sent, some said it was Isaiah etc, confused stupid pagans They said Christianity is monotheism yet they say there arw many gods apart from Yahweh in Christianity ..I know right... well can't blame them they've not gone to school.. .. When confronted about Russell their founder they deny him because Russell himself is against this apostate religion.. They quoted a verse to show mountains are born, to imply that create is equal to born... I asked them show me a scripture that says mountains were created? Till now they can't .. thyve been jumping from one stone to the other without a single verse showing that mountains were created.. ..i asked them were you born or created by your mother assuming born and create is the same..They said God created them.. ....Yeah I know that wasn't the question.. were born or not by your mother? They can't even understand this simple question,.So how can they answer They lie here and there changing their mouths but everything is on records.. which group were Christians called in the bible, pagan Tatime admitted Jesus never said we should be called groups, yet he continues to ask a stupid question about groups in the bible... that's how stupid they are.... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:59pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
Yeh bro I know--but keep up the good work, already things are breaking along the way. These JW's are Children out of school-if their elders knew they were here, they would be castrated from the Watchtower-these JW's are here for God's purpose 'matter of fact they are learning more of you-then the Watchtower literature is teaching them.. With all their rejections and denials they are actually studying and learning the Word of God. zodiakzax: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 4:18pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
brocab: Thanks... and by the Lords grace and Mercy they and gruni123 will come to the Lord... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 6:55pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
CAPTIVATOR: "It is evident? " so much uncertainty. Show us a verse now. You can't. You are telling us it is evident that Jesus Christ is an angel from a secular work done by someone you consider worldly, evil, pagan and unrighteous. You can't show us a verse that says Jesus Christ is an angel in the Bible. So pathetic. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 9:01pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
zodiakzax:Come to the Lord,with this your attitudes. I wonder who that your Lord is. Well thanks to Jehovah that the fruitage of the Holy Spirit is enumerated in the Bible for interested individuals to identify TRUE Christians. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Hairyrapunzel: 9:05pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME: Lol. You now decide the attitude the lord would accept? Na wa o 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:04pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
Hairyrapunzel:Anti~jw virus. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 10:35pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
brocab:Hmmmmmmmmmm your doors closed AGAINST those who have come to discuss with you from the Bible. Romans 10:13-15 No wonder Paul said some Israelites back then truthfully have a zeal but not according to accurate knowledge of God. Romans 10:1-3 But on social media you're facelessly arguing furiously when you can't even see those you're chatting with. Well, thank God Malachi said it's by someone discussing with his neighbors that our names can enter into the book of life. Malachi 3:16 compared to Revelations 20:15 So when Jesus commissioned the house to house preaching and teaching program about 500 years later, God's son thereby set the pace for humble,mild tempered and obedient ones to join the race for everlasting life. Matthew 10:2-15 compared with Malachi 3:18 Instead of following Jesus' instruction to humbly go and plead with unbelievers in their homes, you sit down comfortably and start typing whatever comes to your mind FACELESSLY on social media. And your audience can't even see how to practice what you're saying by your examples since both of you remains strangers to one another. Then the next thing is politicians will start quarreling amongst themselves only to give you guns to go and kill the same person with whom you've been chatting on social media since you don't even know one another. Hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder how you'll know all these your so called "Christian friends" when you're fighting against Nigeria as a soldier for another country! Well as for me and other Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, we'll never carry a weapon against anyone because we know people face to face and we're sure "they don't know what they're doing". Luke 23:34 God bless you Sir! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:06pm On Dec 07, 2018 |
TATIME: So I can't preach the word of God through social media? .. and my neighbour can't be on social media? Pagans. ... I never knew you are so empty headed, even animals can think well than you.. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:53am On Dec 08, 2018 |
TATIME:Isn't this what you are doing also-you sit behind your computer-so nobody is looking at you preaching some what is importance to you, so feel lucky you have a ordinance reading what foolishness you are trying to put out-"do you honestly believe Jesus preached His gospel holding in His hand Watchtower literature while He was door knocking? TATIME:My doors is always opened for those that preach the gospel-unfortunately my spirit have giving me enough wisdom and knowledge to close my doors against the JW's that don't come and preach the gospel.. TATIME:It's a lie to preach unscriptural knowledge about Jesus-He didn't say we are to harass people all day long expecting them to believe in something that isn't scriptural, "your humbleness mild tempered as you would like us to believe, is really deceitful.. TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 1:21am On Dec 08, 2018 |
Barristter07: All right bro, am very much loving the way you ignore that troll begging for your attention |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by CAPTIVATOR: 1:41am On Dec 08, 2018 |
zodiakzax: Father is the Sovereign Lord. If your brain is working that render your question useless . just like you are assuming when asked where Peter called Jesus My Lord.
sense should have tell you that Jesus exist before David. That make him David's Lord, Jesus exist before the Father ? Zodiakzax you don't have sense
Angel is messenger , they tell you nah. Made better doesnt mean he wasn't one . right now he heads Angels whose voice will raise the dead ? Jesus or that of the arch angel . also, who is the Angel of the Lord who answers the name Yahweh ?
The wounds prove he wasn't raised bodily, abi you mean Jesus wasn't raised with a perfect body ? But dishonored one ? Bible said the dead are not raised with dishonor, don't go and say someone with hunchbak will he raised with such dishonor , or someone burnt by fire with such dishonor . use your sense nah. ... He only materialized like angels did in the past
One thing is certain, Yahweh has no Lord... So rule Yahweh out as the one been sent. Is that hard for u again ?
One God is just the Father - 1 Cor 8:6 Jesus is created Mr Man. Jesus is the beginning of the creation of God. Rev 3:14. No assumption . even mountains are created, didn't he prove it by Act 4 vs 24 ?
respond to Barrister07 3 points why is taking you forever Sir ? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:48am On Dec 08, 2018 |
I have written to Gruni 1234 and he seems to be looking for a different Jesus, the sweet little old man type, he wouldn't accept the fact, it is necessary to leave family and friends behind if needed be, of course he had taken things out of context.. I pray with what understanding we have written down for him, the Lord will open up his heart-give him understanding the Father teaches His Children through love and obedience.. Does good mix with the bad, or does Good mix with good-after we have become born again-It's a matter of decision-and in most cases this decision isn't something that can happen over night-but I will say this: it does happen if we persist.. "The Word of God can take years before we start to understand what it means to separate ourselves from the world. But in most cases the Churches are open for business looking for that little old man JW type, who said: if you bow down before me, I will give you the desires of your heart. "People are always looking for a easy life of health and wealth-refusing to be obedient to our heavenly Father, Is this the obedience we as fathers give to our Children-do we give them everything their hearts desires, without having some sort of obedience.. zodiakzax: |
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